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  1. #22179
    Quote Originally Posted by Nektar  [View Original Post]

    My experience to share here is: Patronize only girls that use whatsapp and you can verify they are truly independent. If their ad has too beautiful a model in the photo, its probably a brothel with girls who don't give a fuck and are taught to cheat and steal instead of providing service. Totally ignore girls that still use only a cellphone phone number. All the girls use whatsapp here, so if one is using a phone number only, she is 99% hiding something.
    Last year I was in Medellin and I used the back pages and I had a similar experience. However, these girls were on whatsapp. I'm not sure it makes a difference.

  2. #22178
    Quote Originally Posted by Nektar  [View Original Post]
    My experience to share here is: Patronize only girls that use whatsapp and you can verify they are truly independent. If their ad has too beautiful a model in the photo, its probably a brothel with girls who don't give a fuck and are taught to cheat and steal instead of providing service. Totally ignore girls that still use only a cellphone phone number. All the girls use whatsapp here, so if one is using a phone number only, she is 99% hiding something.
    Good reporting bro. I agree about Whatsapp. Sometime they will have these stupid quotes or flowery crap as their main profile pic though, so you may have to ask them to send you a pic to verify she is who she says she is.

  3. #22177

    Medellin trip update

    I've been here two days, staying near Parque LLeras ("Jheer-ahs") cause I have a pal who gives me a good deal.

    First night: met with a new independent girl from one of the two big websites, who I confirmed uses whatsapp and the advertised photos are of her.

    Considering I was new to her we had a great time. No problems. Furthering my experience that most independent prepagos will give a good service if all is agreed to in advance.

    Second time: I met with an established University girl who I met last trip. 100% perfect. She is a 20 year old angel from a poor family who really wants to educate herself.

    We have the best time. Perfect situation. A dream encounter. By the way, she could be a supermodel and she is a definite 10.150 mil for 90 minutes.

    Third time: I can't be with my dream college girl 24/7 so I picked a girl from mileroticos. Stunning photo and she used whatsapp. I asked if she was the girl in the photo, she said yes. She asked me to visit her.

    In her apartment and I agreed because it sometimes beats waiting for the girl to come to your place. I arrived in a beautiful new complex in La Mota barrio. When I arrived at her apartment I found it was a mini brothel with three bedrooms and she was not the girl in the photo. Bottom line. A horrible experience, she tried to change up everything we agreed upon prior with whatsapp. I told her I'm leaving, then she agreed to honor our prior agreement of 90 minutes with oral natural for 160. Her body was a perfect 10 with a cute face, so I stayed but. She was estrato 1 and acted like she was a zombie and things couldn't have been worse. In my opinion these very poor girls are taken advantage of in these mini or large brothels and the client is the worse off for it. (IMHO Cartagena mongering has been destroyed by these slave brothels, I lived there for two years.) During our time she acted like she feared for her life and our session was interrupted two times by other girls asking to borrow towelettes. I had the worst experience ever with this girl.

    My experience to share here is: Patronize only girls that use whatsapp and you can verify they are truly independent. If their ad has too beautiful a model in the photo, its probably a brothel with girls who don't give a fuck and are taught to cheat and steal instead of providing service. Totally ignore girls that still use only a cellphone phone number. All the girls use whatsapp here, so if one is using a phone number only, she is 99% hiding something.

    Oh, as has been written here, the service in Carulla Supermarket is pathetic and Crepes and Waffles is just as bad. I've been to Crepes & Waffles perhaps 25 times and the senoras who work there simply don't give a shit. They completely ignore you when you tell them what you want, like bread and butter and you have to ask twice or thrice and they never acknowledge their complete no give a shit attitude and pathetic service. And yes, my Spanish is more than fine. My theory is that the are paid pennies and work 6 days a week and simply don't give a phuck. Whatever.

    In general I've had perfect relations with the locals in the drug stores & restaurants. As I've learned, if you try to speak their language they are very kind and helpful. The only problem is that every city in Colombia uses a different set of verbs. I learned my Spanish in Cartagena and the locals in Medellin use a whole different set of verbs. For a non native Spanish speaker, learning Spanish is a lifetime commitment. .

  4. #22176

    Age and bring barrio teens to your apartment: a dangerous Catch 22 thing

    In Colombia you can have sex from age 14.

    You can pay for sex from 18.

    Porn is 18 or 20.

    If you go to a casa and have sex there, you assume she is 18. I now realize that a few of the girls at casas in el centro may not been 18. Should one ask for her cedula before sex?

    On the site Latineuro I met a nympho-model, claimed to be 19, but was 17, she finally confessed.

    She was from a distant town so after 6 months of begging, I invited her to my apartment in Laureles. A Godess! But she did not want to have any money and I did not offer any.

    But even if she was a Perfect Ten, there is a risk. She can / will certainly / as all latinas pick a fight. If police come by and see that she is under 18, she had just 9 days left to her birthday, I still have anxiety about that weekend.

    Also: If you rent an apartment and are alone; never take home more than one girl, at least at night time.

    I stayed in Medellin a semester and ended up with experiences / rutines; control of her cedula, she can send a photo from her celular, that she not bring a friend nighttime, check her behavior, she is likely to have taken some "pericero" or mariujana to relax, both for the sex, but more for doing a crime. A code-secure-box, fixed to the wall, best set in your closet, that you can also have extra locks on.

    If I had 15 girls in my apartment, 5 "amigas", there where no risk. But 3-5 made me nervous. One part is loosing my documents, another the scandal factor, and the police factor, even if they say you are innocent.

    If I would do it today, I would bring up secure amigas, and when for erotic pleasure, a High End Girl.

    I prefer Energy and New Life, mostly New Life; it's a place which worn down, but clean and you don't get robbed. Energy, are they still lacking hot water?

    Find a favorite and then bring her home. She has / hopefully / learned that you are a normal person and not a maniac.

    Mongering will still be a Catch 22 about sex / security.

  5. #22175
    Can we agree you are both at least a little correct and get back to talking about the girls? Street address names and numbers are specific enough after all.

    Quote Originally Posted by BlackPage  [View Original Post]
    I insist. Trust me or not, I am familiar with the subject, as I've been in Medellin a good number of times since 2006 (OMG! How fast time flies.).

    Raudal is indeed the name of that area, loosely speaking the most traditional entertainment district, although bars and clubs spread all around the Centro (if you see a place with the sign "GRILL", don't enter the premises looking for a steak).

    What you show in the photo is not the name of the club, but most likely just a sign that says "you are in Raudal at #3" (the sign does not belong to the bar). At most, it could be a bar that takes the name from the area (something like "bar of Raudal #3).

    In other words, imagine that you are in New Orleans and you see a sign over a club saying "French Quarter #3". You will not conclude that it is the name of the club, although it is possible (yet unlikely).

  6. #22174
    Quote Originally Posted by Wolf662  [View Original Post]
    Actually I think it is also a bar, here it is, corner of Calle 53 & Carrera 54.
    I insist. Trust me or not, I am familiar with the subject, as I've been in Medellin a good number of times since 2006 (OMG! How fast time flies.).

    Raudal is indeed the name of that area, loosely speaking the most traditional entertainment district, although bars and clubs spread all around the Centro (if you see a place with the sign "GRILL", don't enter the premises looking for a steak).

    What you show in the photo is not the name of the club, but most likely just a sign that says "you are in Raudal at #3" (the sign does not belong to the bar). At most, it could be a bar that takes the name from the area (something like "bar of Raudal #3).

    In other words, imagine that you are in New Orleans and you see a sign over a club saying "French Quarter #3". You will not conclude that it is the name of the club, although it is possible (yet unlikely).

  7. #22173
    Quote Originally Posted by BlackPage  [View Original Post]
    Raudal is an area, not a bar. It's the whole area down at a couple of blocks West from Prado metro station with bars and nightlife (not recommended to gringos who do not speak perfect Spanish and can blend in).
    Actually I think it is also a bar, here it is, corner of Calle 53 & Carrera 54.
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  8. #22172
    I have no comment on the Parque Lleras pronunciation. The guy said he does not speak Spanish.

    It is a rare taxi that won't accept a fare from El Poblado to Centro. Finding a taxi to bring you back is not as easy, as the original poster discovered. Any of the casas will call a taxi for you. You can also hail an uber and wait for it at the casa. The metro is OK, buses are also good and there are more convenient bus stops. For 9 k to 10 k from Poblado, I don't know why anyone wouldn't use uber.

    Quote Originally Posted by YippieKayay  [View Original Post]
    Almost. It's pronounced "Parka Yaris. " I bet you got some smiles saying "Yaris Parkay. ".

    Don't be surprised if cabs refuse to go from centro to El Poblado or vice versa. It's a lot of traffic. Most people take the metro.

  9. #22171

    Escobars House

    Quote Originally Posted by YippieKayay  [View Original Post]

    Don't be a dick and go around Medellin asking about Escobar's house. That's like going to Afghanistan and asking for Osama's house. It's fucked up. Don't do it.
    I was in the MDE in Dec & went to Escobars grave, safe house & the "Prison" & had no trouble whatsoever. I was not standing in the middle of Par-kay Yair-as on a bench yelling though. I simply had a map & asked the Uber driver to bring me there & it was not a problem.

    El Mechanico.

  10. #22170
    Quote Originally Posted by VictorW  [View Original Post]
    After reading through the forums I decided to book my stay for the first few nights near Lleras park. (By the way it's pronounced Yaris Parkay I've been told).
    The girls walking the street were young, and hot. Some of them approached me, other times it was their handlers. Really not pushy compared to Bangkok.
    A word of caution for everyone.
    Girls in Parque LLeras are never not of age (or at least I've never seen any girl there who looks borderline). I bet in most cases they could be a good option, but overpriced, as you have witnessed (the place is for tourists, especially from USA; US tourists have money; many tourists are not price-conscious ==> it's a gold mine for girls).
    I have met in the past a couple of girls there, who tried, after a few drinks in a bar 2 blocks from the Parque, to take my cell phone from my pocket while hugging me dancing (just tried: I took it back from her hand asking like naively "why is it in your hands?" and she replied it was falling). I believe that every place where rich tourists hang out are also a haven for scammers and a variety of thieves. Just be careful and always keep your hands where you keep your things.
    Better take ONE girl than two in a room of a love motel or where you stay, until you don't know who is she and you know she's a good honest one. While it may be difficult to keep one girl under control at all times in the room (go to the toilet and a trained thief can take something from your pockets in seconds), it's virtually impossible to keep under control TWO girls. I do that, but almost always with girls I know already.

    Quote Originally Posted by VictorW  [View Original Post]
    The second day I went and called an uber 10k to take me to Balcones de Cuba.
    Definitely a sketchy neighborhood, do I was glad to get out before dark.
    I'm 5 10,200 lbs, muscular and tattooed but I'd still never risk hanging out in that neighbourhood after dark.
    It's right in the Centro, not in the worst sector but still the Centro, where NOBODY IF NOT EXPERIENCED should go at night. Being muscular does not help, as the danger is not a fight, but a rob.

  11. #22169
    Quote Originally Posted by Wolf662  [View Original Post]
    Raudal is on the NW corner of Calle 53 & Carr 54. It was closed when I was there in the day, I think it is a bar.
    Raudal is an area, not a bar. It's the whole area down at a couple of blocks West from Prado metro station with bars and nightlife (not recommended to gringos who do not speak perfect Spanish and can blend in).

  12. #22168
    Quote Originally Posted by YippieKayay  [View Original Post]
    Almost. It's pronounced "Parka Yaris. " I bet you got some smiles saying "Yaris Parkay. "
    EEK?? I don't know what language speaker would make those be pronounced like "Parque Lleras", but I am pretty sure that if anyone tries either "Parka Yaris" or "Yaris Parkay" will be not understood ROFL.

  13. #22167
    Quote Originally Posted by VictorW  [View Original Post]
    After reading through the forums I decided to book my stay for the first few nights near Lleras park. (By the way it's pronounced Yaris Parkay I've been told).
    Almost. It's pronounced "Parka Yaris. " I bet you got some smiles saying "Yaris Parkay. ".

    Quote Originally Posted by VictorW  [View Original Post]
    The girls walking the street were young, and hot. Some of them approached me, other times it was their handlers. Really not pushy compared to Bangkok.

    Prices quoted were 200 k on average, 150 if I balked. These prices were per hour.

    I didn't pick any up, because I didn't want to pay for the price of a short time, possibly a guest fee and a girl. Not a bad idea if you have a place.
    There has been discussion of these girls in the past and some of them may not be of age. Everything in El Poblado will be more expensive.

    The second day I went and called an uber 10k to take me to Balcones de Cuba.

    There I almost panicked. I've been in knock shops all around, but this was an odd situation.

    There was a fat older woman standing in front ...

    After that I grabbed a cab back to lleras park. Or at least I tried to. I flagged down 3 cabs before 1 was willing to go there.

    ...

    Still 36 k for a quickie? I'm pretty happy with that.
    Just a couple of things. What made you go to that place? There are dozens of other brothels.

    Don't be surprised if cabs refuse to go from centro to El Poblado or vice versa. It's a lot of traffic. Most people take the metro.

    Quote Originally Posted by HumanBeing1  [View Original Post]
    I'll be in Mdellin this weekend.

    Any suggestions on what places are good on Sundays usually? I've found Latin America to be less open on Sundays. What are the hot spots for drinks and what are the best casas on Sunday?

    Any suggestions on what to do other than mongering and drinking? I figure we'll look around the parks, maybe do that cable car, see a couple of escobar sights. Anything else? I don't think we'll have the time to go out to Guatape.

    One more thing. A friend of mine said Escobar's house that he was caught in is now a brothel. Anyone been? Is it simple to get to? He said a friend of his got him in and implied that it wasn't as easy as the other ones.
    Go to the Medellin Lists thread and read the pdf there. It lists the hours on Sundays for the brothels. Don't be a dick and go around Medellin asking about Escobar's house. That's like going to Afghanistan and asking for Osama's house. It's fucked up. Don't do it.

  14. #22166
    Quote Originally Posted by YippieKayay  [View Original Post]
    Do they at least have any tall ones? I recall they were all short, fat and young last time I was there.

    Is the zombies and sniffer area by Raudlin? Down the street from Motel Eros. Is that Raudlin place an actual bar?

    That's funny, hahaha.
    Haha, short, fat and young about sums them up at Yakusa.

    At least yesterday.

    The Radual is an area near Eros.

    Not sure if one the dive bars is actually called that though.

    Haven't seen a good looking girl there in a while.

    I've found some keepers around Parque Botero.

    Keep your radar on high and eyes open in that area.

    At all times, but most especiallly at night.

    There are eyes on you for sure, especially if you're being dumb.

    (Flashing money, cell, watch, etc).

    Don't linger in an area with no people traffic about.

    I may check out Face Dos tonite.
    Haven't been there in a bit.
    See the other side of the tracks.
    I'll report back.

  15. #22165

    Lleras park and hotel balcones de Cuba

    After reading through the forums I decided to book my stay for the first few nights near Lleras park. (By the way it's pronounced Yaris Parkay I've been told).

    The girls walking the street were young, and hot. Some of them approached me, other times it was their handlers. Really not pushy compared to Bangkok.

    Prices quoted were 200 k on average, 150 if I balked. These prices were per hour.

    I didn't pick any up, because I didn't want to pay for the price of a short time, possibly a guest fee and a girl. Not a bad idea if you have a place.

    The second day I went and called an uber 10k to take me to Balcones de Cuba.

    There I almost panicked. I've been in knock shops all around, but this was an odd situation.

    There was a fat older woman standing in front and I walked right up her. She looked very confused. The fact I don't speak Spanish didn't help. She called over 3 younger guys. I thought, great. Time to get mugged.

    I pantomimed asking about girls, massage. Nothing.

    Finally I asked for it by name. Hotel Balcones de Cuba.

    The guys pointed out a building five feet from the old lady on the corner. It has a giant white metal gate.

    Heading to the gate I was buzzed in.

    Kind of odd. I walked in, and there was a receptionist who just sort of glared at me.

    I asked about massage. She indicated that I should head upstairs.

    Heading up some stairs I finally have a guy who speaks English to me.

    He explained that 30 minutes was 36 k and an hour was (I think) 56 k.

    Then he knocked on each room.

    I waited then as girls popped out of the rooms.

    Here was another strange thing.

    The girls didn't stay in the foyer. They popped out 1 by 1 shook my hand gave their name and then popped back into their respective rooms. About 6 of them.

    On average they were too chubby and old for me. Maybe 6's and 8's at Lleras park. Roughly 30's. And over 20% BMI. If you like curvy big butted girls these were for you.

    The guy came back and and asked mde the name of the girl I liked. I picked one. He brought in towels, soap and a condom.

    The girl took off her top and bottom and got ready. No shower. For me or her.

    She didn't insist I put on a condom.

    I did anyway.

    I was a little scared of that willingness to bareback, do I skipped my normal asking for a BBBJ.

    I finished in 20 minutes, headed down where again the guy was nowhere to be found.

    I tried to pay the receptionist. No dice.

    Eventually I went back up and the guy was there to be paid.

    After that I grabbed a cab back to lleras park. Or at least I tried to. I flagged down 3 cabs before 1 was willing to go there.

    Definitely a sketchy neighborhood, do I was glad to get out before dark.

    I'm 5 10,200 lbs, muscular and tattooed but I'd still never risk hanging out in that neighbourhood after dark.

    Still 36 k for a quickie? I'm pretty happy with that.

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