Medellin Reports

[Mr Enternational]

I think people are pretty delusional about Venezuela and probably don't follow the news or politics at all. It would take at least a decade for that place to turn around. And if Maduro is still in power for another decade, guess what?

Pay me no mind you guys that get a thrill from risking life and limb in the pursuit of cheap pussy.

And besides that, I have been to Venezuela a few times and I did not see any women that could hold a candle to a Brazilian or Colombian. You can even go to DR right now and see all the Venezuelans on vacation. Maybe all the hot ones that people claim there are do not have any vacation time, because I have yet to see one in DR either.

[SavePros321]

I don't think Caracas is going to be a good place to visit anytime soon.

I think people are pretty delusional about Venezuela and probably don't follow the news or politics at all. It would take at least a decade for that place to turn around. And if Maduro is still in power for another decade, guess what?

Pay me no mind you guys that get a thrill from risking life and limb in the pursuit of cheap pussy.

[Brother P]

Interestingly, on my last visit to Cartagena I met 3-4 girls coming from Venezuela. It never happened to me before. It means life there is getting tougher and tougher. My best wishes to all Venezolanos and Venezolanas.

I might do CTG in July. Maybe I'll meet a few sexy mujeres de Venezuela! I don't think Caracas is going to be a good place to visit anytime soon.

[Dellorto]

Damn, she's ice cold :) I'm guessing she will keep doing the same thing to all of her 'friends' until one bites. Good to see that you're not that pendejo.

On another note: I see some mention of Venezuela popping up here and there on the forums, and I like that. Just saying.

[Mr Enternational]

About 3 weeks ago my girl started kicking around the idea of going to school. She said that she wanted to go for secretarial. A couple of days later she said she wanted to go for dental assistant. I told her that she really didn't need to go until she settled on what it was she really wanted to do. All the while it was running through my mind how was she going to pay for it. Maybe there was a grant or special assistance or something.

Well last week she was informed that her Gringo Grant had not been approved and she chose to cancel her subscription to this dick.

She said that she needed me to help her pay for school or she would have to go work in a club. I asked her which club she was going to work in. She said no a club where the women dance naked. I said that is fine. Just let me know where and I can come see you there.

She was livid and told me to look for another woman. She does not want to be with a man who would prefere his woman be a prostitute. I said well I do not prefer it, but I understand that you have to do what you need to do in order to pay your things.

She said we were finished and she was going to look for someone that really loves her. I guess to her love means paying for her to go to school. I told her good luck with that. There are many more where that one came from.

[BeersTerry]

Once you visit Havana you will realize what a shithole it is. By this I mean that it is a totalitarian communist state where workers have no idea what the concept of service is. The workers extort from you and steal from you. A petty example that I will give you. I am a detail oriented mutherfocker, When I check into a place with 7 pair of underwear, I expect to check out with 7 pair of underwear. Employees being poor, will steal little things like a pair of your underwear and / or a pair of your socks etc etc. Most people will not notice but I do. Then you have the substandard quality and lack of infrastructure.
For the monger, police stop citizens to check their id all the time. They cannot be seen with you, and if they were talking to you, they can and often are taken in for prostittution, a charge that will result in a bribe being paid to the cop or 5 years in prison

In that system, the provider is king as he has access to scarce goods, not the customer, the customer is meaningless.

Sanitation: Most barrios have a dumpster / trash bin on the corner. It fockin reeks to high heaven. Then you have the poorest of the poor dumpster diving and leaving it all over the street. It makes for a lovely sight, never mind smell.

Americans can be very good tippers, but when you enter into he commie world, you will get Cubans demanding tips for nothing.

Venezuela. It is a country with runaway inflation. Any money you exchange you need to spend as tomorrow it is worth alot less. Just having foreign currency makes you a target. Actually, just being a gringo makes you a target.

[C Jack Sparrow]

I*had a strong report removed yesterday, saying that we should go back to Frank Casio, as a re-start about how we should pay. Parts of it was perhaps inappropriate. I got it though that admin not had followed the discussion at all and found it therefore offensive!

I have only strong critique; the thread has the purpose of giving mongers a good market information. Instead there are "reports" about trivial things; fares on the bus, weather report. Small-meanness and fear, taking the home-countries social strict behavior with them. This take up space and finally genuine people ends to read ISG, it feels like reading yesterdays's local newspaper.

Eat those persons porridge with estrogen in it for breakfast? They save on everything except the important; prices for erotic services. I would be amazed at how much they are prepared to throw away in a unnecessarily way and at the same time destroying for us who strive for getting the girls to accept local prices for foreigners as well. If we can do that Medellin will be Paradise Medellin, as Frank Casio used to say.

My statistics clearly shows that we have a big advantage. ; we are few in numbers and can survive without erotic service from a hot girl. It's boring. That's all. She, on the other hand, wakes up with an empty wallet! My statistics shows that just in Colombia there are 1 million 8´s-10's in Colombia 18-33 yo, 160.000 + 40-160,000 incoming from smaller cities in Antioquia and other regions to keep their anonymity, which it's easy in a 4 million metropolis.

A few can manage to study at a expensive university, which is the only one that give well payed jobs and live a good life, without the need for extra money from some sort of erotic, social service to men. 8/9 of 10 can not and hence studies at CENA etc, which at best gives them the same type of skills for a professional job, but in the "wrong" social environment. These girls compete in beauty, luxury items and that is equal to spend 5 M COP a month. In long periods they need simply to isolate themselves and just do what must be done-study and work regular, with embarrassment and abstinence of all kinds. Maybe she even not can afford Bodytech and then gain weight again, adding even more stress.

Legal Tender gave us the perfect example; he granted a dentist student his scholarship. A very well built girl, he published a few photos of her here. How did he find this Pearl- he was buddy with; her teacher/s who recommended her!

Most ISG guys seems to be lurkers, some bring 1st World rules into a 3rd world society, but just on sexual pleasure, or do they pay the taxi-driver 15,000 COP, when the meter says 6750?

*Nylpimp came with and bold counteroffensive a few days ago; thanks!

I can only recommend 1st world men that go to 3rd world countries with a young population. There are 100;1 or 1000;1 for every 1st sweet girl to us mongers. These girls are actors! If they could, they would rob you of your cash, credit cards, and try to use them on the internet ASAP, which is possible if they have the CCV code, so erase it and save it on a Hotmail or g-mail account. But why rob a gringo when he says yes to 300% of what a paisa would pay? And with some good acting, repeat, being recommended to this likewise stupid friends! Saves a lot of problems if the police should bother about it if you make a report and she is recognized.

As I show, and as Frank Casio had as a theme for months; it is easy to come to terms with girls. Just the facts that they don't have to be slaves, which they are at 686 k COP / month + transport at 60 hours a week, no rights, social security. And many times just kicked out, having being promised last month salary and getting 2 this month, or even 3! The girls have Nothing, and they have opportunity of nothing! Just paying her 75 mil COP two times a week, makes her free from slavery!

El Poblado; girls get overpaid and by an apartment there and live with her mother. On laughed at me on the phone when I said I lived in Laureles, like it was a kind of low class barrio!

Aviod El Poblado! Do an intensive course in Spanish, these can be had in the US, in Medellin, since nobody can stay horny 24/7 for a fortnight! And it's fun! And give some respect, and lower the degree of frustration, both for the girl and the monger.

To take with your 1st World behaviour, since it takes a month according to behavioral science, to change behavior, is a very bad deal, if have prepared well to change attitude, ASAP after picking up your luggage at the airport.
A Gringo means going to a lottery. Getting him into bed is Jackpot! Be nice, flirt, buy some drinks, maybe dinner. And then just go home! Or even better, leave after paying the dinner, with another prepago that you have made an appointment with! Chock-therapy for self-secure, a little high prepagos in Poblado and Parque Lleras. Like when US college team won over Soviet stars 1980 in Lake Placid, or then Sweden turned 0-4 to 4-4 in soccer, with Angela Merkel herself watching.
Selfsecure and selfdeclared winners can loose. But that needs resistance from us Gringos.

Then ther acting skills get them zero, if not a realistic price is negociated beforehand. Like 150 for TLN, which means sleeping 7 hours and having sex one hour, in comparison to 60 hours boring work and transports.

This behavior makes prepagos humble and aware that Gringos are not always Jackpot. And for us who live in Medellin 2-5 months a year. Service personal have yet not got used to treat me as a gringo in Estadio or Laureles, but Poblado I don't even consider going to! Yes, when there a game in Champions League or Euro / World Cup, Grand Slam tennis. A beer from Denmark, Carlsberg is even more expensive in it's own country!

It doesn't demand much to find a power-balance. You say no, save your sexual frustration, which is a positive one, since you know you can get rid of it easily -just go to New Life before 2 pm. and you will find a hottie easily, and for a fraction of the cost. The barrio girl then have to go back to her minimum-wage life. Numbers, are on our side!

I also read about guys paying incredible sums to Top Models. I got one, nylpimp, also know her, Geraldine. She was a model and could have charged me, but charging for sex was just not on her agenda; 18 yo model; she could have made a small fortune. Another model, having been a Xtreme model (similar to Chica's Car Audio, La Mejor Cola de La valle, GM Car Audio) about modelling work, etc. Tells me that "people think we earn tons of money but we do not". " Me and my friend are planning to get a student visa in Europe to work as prepagos there, so to be able to by an apartment and a car". Being a model in Colombia has according to Geraldine 2% chance of commercial success. The rest are simply not needed, more than occasionally. The winning girls get lucrative contracts, the other ones work as Modelo de Protocolo, for wages that are "normal", and certainly not full-time. But it's a good social cover.

Kickboxer has once wrote that he could be "wingman" to a newbie in Medellin to explore the non-pro places. Which shall have incredibly beautiful girls. Discos in Medellin are overrated, Mango is big enough to have a mixed audience. But 9 out of 10 are for teenagers. There shall also be temporal party locals, that rich guys rent for a weekend and invite only +9-10's. For being invited to such a party you need contacts, and a fancy Gringo might be lucky, Colombians with money loves to show off. Such guys, some of the lurkers here find a pub in Poblado, and being very socially, you might come to a party with only divine girls.

Camaro, March / April / May 2013 wrote about he found places inside Cartagena, far away from El Laguito, Boca Grande and it's LDV and alike clubs. Camaros club had a price tag of 100 mil COP.

White Lies. Not only $€£ get the girls attention. Many have a degree these days, quality is therefore low (Murray, Bell Curve, 1995). Having a degree from an European or US quality university make enormous impression, a public prosecutor told me. Dress up, become an actor, as the prepago already are and compete in lying. Have cards that say you have a high status profession. Do a little research and you can handle a discussion. The impression of a Professional Man, is opens up doors to many bedrooms. And families, I. E Free Gold Sex! Only question is; what is such a man doing in Colombia? Why is he not in Miami or Crazy Horse in Paris. Prepare yourself and you get away with it. We are talking about socializing with girls that might rob you, and if you go to the police, she counter with a sexual-abuse accusation.

In Medellin we are in the 3rd world. WE think we are aware and avoid danger, but actually we go right into the Crocodile gap!

These girls have nothing, and they opportunity of nothing!

[World Jockey]

Medellin into Costa Rica, us vets are slowly eyeballing Havana and Caracas.

I haven't been to Havana but given the political climate its about to be flooded with Americans.

Despite the dog and pony show on TV, lover her or hate her Hilary will be the next POTUS (too many things in her favor).

That said she will probably continue loosening knots with Havana. I don't see how that would help our hobby. As a matter of fact they have already seen increased American tourism.

Caracas is bats hit crazy and probably a little more light at the end of that tunnel. Right now it just seems like too much work. Having two rates of exchange for the USD is a pain in the ass itself.

I guess all that goes out the door if ya have a hookup. But everything I hear coming out of there makes me put and Korea on the potential mongering list beside it.

See this is what I'm talking about. Thats why I don't do to new life. Should we just stop helping newbies?

Good point. If they get overrun by extranjeros as opposed to locals you know what about to happen next. Price increase.

That is when I would have taken my money back and said, "Oh yeah. That was my friend. He was paying for both of us. ".

If you do find a gringo bar, stay there. You can drink and talk with a Bible salesman from Minneapolis and complain about the metric system.

LOL dead and buried laughing at you comedians.

300 euros! Current going rate is about 3000 bhat for long time which means toda la noche. 3000 bhat is about $85 USD so is she fucked him day and night 3 days straight it isn't that much. Again that is current pricing. He did overpay but at current pricing not much. Maybe $50 euros much. Maybe she was tight A+ Hiso girl. You tell us.

Her name was "Oil". I swear I don't know why those Thai like taking English nicknames of objects. Anyhow she was fine. The fact that she wasnt hardened was a feather in her cap also.

This was a few years back so the price may a little different today. Even today 300 Euros tho. Sigh.

[Knowledge]

I have several Venezuelan coworkers who visit their hometowns every year but will not go to Caracas because of safety concerns. I won't second guess them.

Jonesie, its your buddy Daniel Caro hyping Medellin to his English only gringo following. I guess that CubaDave shit scared them all to Medellin.

Funny, I was looking at Caracas too but I am too chicken to go there at the moment.

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[Black Page]

As you know Caracas has a ton of beautiful women! I can't wait until it's safe to go there!

Interestingly, on my last visit to Cartagena I met 3-4 girls coming from Venezuela. It never happened to me before. It means life there is getting tougher and tougher. My best wishes to all Venezolanos and Venezolanas.

[Brother P]

Following? You mean the six raincoat winos from crash that couldn't make their pensions stretch a whole month in CR? Mr. Woodall has been elusive, if not outright absent. I've had somewhat of an obsessive desire to give him a proper Medellin welcome, to no avail.

We have been getting quite a few CR guys down here over the last year. For every good one, comes a few dregs. They're hard to miss, they walk around Poblado looking like unmade beds, speaking sportsmen's lodge Spanish, chattering among themselves about which restaurants have early bird specials, and how to get out of paying a chica's taxi fare home. A procession of specters.

As far as Caracas goes, we need to wait until it's been off the stove for a while before taking a sip. That shit's like the wild west these days.

As you know Caracas has a ton of beautiful women! I can't wait until it's safe to go there!

[Jonesie]

Jonesie, its your buddy Daniel Caro hyping Medellin to his English only gringo following. I guess that CubaDave shit scared them all to Medellin.

Funny, I was looking at Caracas too but I am too chicken to go there at the moment.

Following? You mean the six raincoat winos from crash that couldn't make their pensions stretch a whole month in CR? Mr. Woodall has been elusive, if not outright absent. I've had somewhat of an obsessive desire to give him a proper Medellin welcome, to no avail.

We have been getting quite a few CR guys down here over the last year. For every good one, comes a few dregs. They're hard to miss, they walk around Poblado looking like unmade beds, speaking sportsmen's lodge Spanish, chattering among themselves about which restaurants have early bird specials, and how to get out of paying a chica's taxi fare home. A procession of specters.

As far as Caracas goes, we need to wait until it's been off the stove for a while before taking a sip. That shit's like the wild west these days.

[BeersTerry]

Jonesie, its your buddy Daniel Caro hyping Medellin to his English only gringo following. I guess that CubaDave shit scared them all to Medellin.

Funny, I was looking at Caracas too but I am too chicken to go there at the moment.

[KingAmongKings]

Yeah I saw that once, but the website does not have rates daily, weekly, monthly etc. I tried send a message on the website and got nothing. Do you happen to know rates there?

Bodytech at Vizcaya mall in Poblado is a very good gym.