Medellin Reports

[MoonShot]

This matter is very dear to me because several forums on USSG seem to be overrun with PM douchery where local "experts" only provide massage parlor information through private messages to other senior members. Which is ridiculous.

For me the distinction is between publicly available information and private contacts.

This board exists, in the global sense, thanks to those pillars of the community who kindly and freely share their reports of massage parlors, partytreffs, girl bars, and similar establishments around the world. We can't all be as great as them, but they inspire us to throw in our own reports whenever we can. Speaking for myself, I have tremendously benefited from the board and therefore I feel compelled to share whatever meager morsels of experience I acquire.

However, private contacts are just that. Private. If it's not a publicly advertising service provider, then it's your private catch. This is the difference between a girl's facebook or tinder profile (private) and her masajistaspaisas profile (public and there is absolutely no reason to hoard it).

I also make that distinction. I also post a lot on GDL, Mexico, about massage parlor girls and agency girls and Twitter escorts and I give out names and contact info freely. These are girls that are openly advertising and promoting themselves as escorts so I have no issues about sharing such info and have done so.

The Facebook girls that I have seen just have a regular FB profile and do not openly state that they are escorts. They do not advertise on escort websites. There is no indication openly that they are escorts and they prefer to keep it that way. They would not like it if I posted their names on this website and said they are escorts. So for these girls, I do hesitate on sharing info unless I know the guy.

So this is a good distinction that you are pointing out. If I saw a girl on a prepago website, I would not hesitate to discuss her here and to give out contact info to all.

[FRobertson]

I like your general approach on giving away chica info. My approach is just say no. I'm glad you posted about it so guys can stop thinking they can just get shit for free from random strangers on the board. I just ignore their messages myself no offense. They can RTFF on how and where to look and put in some time and effort, ain't rocket science. That's how I started. I only give out chica info to actual friends of mine. A few times I set up a whole week with chicas because I was bringing 2 high school buddies of mine at different times who were on their virgin trip to MDE. Having them around helped me build more chica contacts because I got more new amigas to come through. The good ones I'll keep their contact info for future dates. Win-win situation for me and my buddies.

This matter is very dear to me because several forums on USSG seem to be overrun with PM douchery where local "experts" only provide massage parlor information through private messages to other senior members. Which is ridiculous.

For me the distinction is between publicly available information and private contacts.

This board exists, in the global sense, thanks to those pillars of the community who kindly and freely share their reports of massage parlors, partytreffs, girl bars, and similar establishments around the world. We can't all be as great as them, but they inspire us to throw in our own reports whenever we can. Speaking for myself, I have tremendously benefited from the board and therefore I feel compelled to share whatever meager morsels of experience I acquire.

However, private contacts are just that. Private. If it's not a publicly advertising service provider, then it's your private catch. This is the difference between a girl's facebook or tinder profile (private) and her masajistaspaisas profile (public and there is absolutely no reason to hoard it).

[FRobertson]

Tipping is a personal decision. Why the flaming? It is not even your money. A person should be able to spend money he wants to spend money. Why does it matter to you?

Tipping is a personal decision, correct. As is everything else in life.

Because this particular individual chose to publicly express his views on tipping, I am writing to clarify his tipping rules. Asking questions is likewise a personal decision.

There is no flaming in my post.

[MoonShot]

Usually on every trip, there will be a few girls who I tell I will be meeting them but I don't see them because I don't have time. You always want to have more girls as possibilities just in case your top tier girls are unavailable. Those girls are definitely not happy when they find out that I am back home and I didn't see them when I was Medellin. Of course, they are more angry that they missed on making money with me than actually seeing me. But they like to play that game about how much they really wanted to see you. I usually tell them that I will try to see them on my next trip and I move them up on my list for the next trip and I make more of an effort to see them.

That is why I mention that I don't tell everyone that I am in Medellin because then a lot of your Facebook friends will message you and want to see you. But for me, it is a bit too much of a good thing and I hate ignoring the messages of young pretty girls. It just doesn't seem right to me.

[RiceRocket99]

I have had a number of guys on this website who ask me for the names of some of my favorite Facebook girls in Medellin. These are my thoughts about that type of request from anonymous strangers who I have never met.

It takes me a lot of time and effort to find the type of girls that I am interested in. Then there is trial and error in seeing these girls and some are good and some are not. Over four trips, the girls who are good to me end up on my list of favorites. After each trip, I am back on the hunt looking for new girls when I am home for my next trip.

So basically guys want the results of all this time and effort in exchange for me basically nothing more than thanks bro.

So there's not a lot in it for me to share this type of information but I have done so for guys that I have actually meet on the ground who are struggling with Facebook girls and for my real friends in exchange for some meals and drinks. It is not about the money but some appreciation for my assistance.

And I also have exchanged info with other guys for equivalent info. That to me would be a fair exchange..

I like your general approach on giving away chica info. My approach is just say no. I'm glad you posted about it so guys can stop thinking they can just get shit for free from random strangers on the board. I just ignore their messages myself no offense. They can RTFF on how and where to look and put in some time and effort, ain't rocket science. That's how I started. I only give out chica info to actual friends of mine. A few times I set up a whole week with chicas because I was bringing 2 high school buddies of mine at different times who were on their virgin trip to MDE. Having them around helped me build more chica contacts because I got more new amigas to come through. The good ones I'll keep their contact info for future dates. Win-win situation for me and my buddies.

[Chicago85]

But how much do you tip the captain and the first officer of your airplane when they land particularly well? Do you tip more when you get a particularly good fare on Frontier or Spirit?

And how much do you tip the receptionist at the doctor's office?

And when you get your power and gas bills, do you throw in a few extra bucks for the hard-working people there?

And how much do you tip the cashier at Publix, and the girls at McDonald's drive through?

My personal opinion is that here's a big difference given that sex, by nature, is not a commoditized service. The person's hands are on your physical body (and often times in places where they could do harm, doing things disagreeable to them). Also, in many cases you hope to see the girl / person again. This the reason that I also tip my barber and masseuses. None of the above meet that criteria.

The other thing that I'll mention is that I'm much more like to tip a girl working a casa a higher percentage as the rate is not set by them, vs the FB girls where you negotiate with them. If I think the FB girl rate is already quite fair / high, I may not tip at all, even if good service.

[MoonShot]

Hey Moon Shot. I understand your position on wanting to keep gems to yourself. Can I pick your brain on your method of negotiating BBFS. I've had success negotiating in the room after they see what I'm working with and my hygiene. Just negotiating BBBJ beforehand but it seems like you negotiate before you even meet them. Over FB messenger or switching to Whattsapp? Do you tell them you will provide tests results? Or is it a numbers game like you said Any insight or strategies would be much appreciated. Thanks.

Well, I will say that on my previous trip, I took 15 condoms with me and when I came home, I had 15 condoms. So on my recent trip, I just took 8 condoms with me and when I came home, I had 8 condoms. This is not to say that all the girls in Medellin will do bareback. It is the opposite. Most will say no. As a result, if you want bareback, you have to ask a number of girls about it and perhaps a few will say yes. The percentage depends on the type of girl you are asking and what they think about how you look. I don't know exactly what they are looking for but most girls just ballpark whether or not they think you are a clean guy or not. It is not a scientific analysis at all.

I don't like to negotiate in the room because if I want bareback and the girl says no, well, then you have a problem. It's going to be covered sex which is fine and not a dealbreaker for me but it may not be what I really wanted that night.

So, after some small talk, I will make my offer of money, time and bareback all at once and see how he girl reacts. Sometimes it is just jajaja, other times, no my love, it has to be sex with a condom. Or it could be ok but the price must be higher. You get a number of responses. It doesn't matter whether it is on Messenger or WhatsApp.

It is a numbers game. Ask enough girls and some will say yes. Ballpark, I would say 2 to 3 per 10 girls.

[Nounce]

Tipping is a personal decision. Why the flaming? It is not even your money. A person should be able to spend money he wants to spend money. Why does it matter to you?

Put it this way, based on the context of the discussion that I started and combined with the overpaying reply, the question can be converted to this, the waiter presents you with tipping choices of 30%, 60%, 90%, are you going to tip 100%? The question really is not about the amount you want to tip.

[Litmus Smut]

You understand that "keep your pimp hand strong" means slapping women who don't do things the way you want? Which, I suppose will help keep the market in balance. When "strong pimp hand" guys start running into angry Colombian pimps and get sent home in body bags, the demand will decrease.

My mind didn't go there. When Pepoles Buddy was chiding dudes for giving money away to girls online for nothing. I took it as a man who minds his money, a man who controls the frame, a man who spends money for something – not for nothing. Maybe boomers think differently and get reminiscent of Shorty the Pimp, domestic violence, and getting girls hooked on drugs or something. I see pimping as a frame of mind – that pimp hand holds trump cards and knows how to play them.

Exxxotica type conventions are all over. They're mainly for various sex workers to network and learn to improve their business, while allowing fans to meet their favorite fantasy. There's one in Cartagena each year.

Yes, I mentioned Exxotica by name so people could search it if they want to, not reference "a" porn convention in "a" city, so that it might render unproductive results. I also put the date I went to clue people in if they wanted to look for themselves. Brand, City, Date. If there is one in Colombia, I'the bet the rules of the American pussy prison system don't apply as much there. Probably some decorum required, but easier to make offers.

Like every type of convention, unless it's something you're into, there's no sense in going. For the people who go, it makes them happy, fulfills a fantasy and doesn't hurt anyone. Surely you have better things to do than to make fun of some legless guy in a wheelchair.

I've been to boat shows. Don't own a boat. Learned about boats. "No sense in going" I disagree. Like admitted to, I was a tourist with no interest in spending money on anything offered there. DVDs? Posters? Photo Op? 3 x Nope. If anything, I would go again next year with business intentions in mind because what's clear is there is money to be made. Therefore, there was a sense in going after seeing how many people are desperate to make it.

This term of "making fun" is an especially odd comment. I wasn't offended by solo guys walking around, the obvious incels, the packs of bro dudes, people of different ethnicity, couples, queers, lesbians, the handicapped or the guy dressed as Jesus. Just because it was noticed and mentioned doesn't mean I mocked them verbally or in my mind. Your other comments have a bit of info, but this mention of "making fun" of someone has a tone of projection.

About the pasties, most US cities have laws against public nudity. Obviously the girls at the convention were just keeping it legal. Telling the porn star the same thing she probably hears from every guy usually won't impress her.

Yeah and yeah, so. If you know what pasties are, you know why they have them. And, I probably didn't impress Evan Stone too much either. Or Spencer Bradley. They won't remember anyone. But Alex Coal does look like AOC, which would probably make her as much money as Lisa Ann did for portraying that lady from Alaska.

If you had paid attention, you probably would have seen several Colombian webcam models there. The big studios are usually well represented.

I looked at them all. Most were not worth the time. Why would I care if they were Colombian or American or Japanese or Mexican when attractiveness is the primary factor? Was I supposed to run up to one of them on her live stream and tell her I've been to Colombia? Some guys went there to meet their online idol. I did not.

[LoveItHere69]

Seriously never give referrals. Did you guys not learn long ago playing match maker and you lost friends when your friends had a nasty break-up? We have argued endlessly about what 8's, 9's, and 10's are every few months. Why would you think his 10 would be the same as your 10? One if not both or all three of you will not be happy with the outcome. It is a great way to burn bridges at both ends.

Also, guys are F-ing idiots. 60+ year old French guy had twins on his bucket list before he dies. I had not been with these girls but had their pictures and Whatsapp. Showed him the pictures of the pretty girls but not stunners. He said $140 USD for an hour with both girls including taxi was too much. Most bucket lists costs thousands and $140 was too much for him.

I can do it with one guy but knew him for many months. I would point out hot girls walking by and he would do the same so we knew what each other liked. We have shared around 30 girls with a high success rate. Any problems were mostly personalities were not compatible. I only complained about one girl he gave me. 22 year old with no kids but was a lesbian and wore that tight boob holder that smashed her boobs. They were big like I wanted but they were so soft and mushy like she had had 3+ kids and was 40 years old.

I also hate the "Bros before Hoes". I travel to different countries to meet hot young women, NOT YOU! You mean nothing to me. She means everything. Simply put you may be interesting to talk to and fill in some slow time, but she makes me happy. She will leave me with a memory years down the road, while you will not. Just a sprinkle of perspective.

[Mr Enternational]

I have had a number of guys on this website who ask me for the names of some of my favorite Facebook girls in Medellin.

So basically guys want the results of all this time and effort in exchange for me basically nothing more than thanks bro.

In my experience they do not even give you a thanks bro and many times ruin your relationship with the girl. It is really bad when you do not even post a picture of the girl, but people want the contact info.

[MoonShot]

But how much do you tip the captain and the first officer of your airplane when they land particularly well? Do you tip more when you get a particularly good fare on Frontier or Spirit?

And how much do you tip the receptionist at the doctor's office?

And when you get your power and gas bills, do you throw in a few extra bucks for the hard-working people there?

And how much do you tip the cashier at Publix, and the girls at McDonald's drive through?

Tipping is a personal decision. Why the flaming? It is not even your money. A person should be able to spend money he wants to spend money. Why does it matter to you?

[Villainy]

I don't think anyone blames you for your position Moonshot. To be honest, I've had more issues giving out names than not doing so with some things coming back to bite me with the girl (guy didn't pay agreed amount, horrible hygiene, too drunk, 'asked for weird stuff' or tried to go BB when she said no). I'm pretty clear with the girls and guys now and only give info to people that I've met in person. You also find out quickly if it's a 'fair' trade or not. It sucks when you connect a guy with a few hot semi-pros from IG and another guy shares the hardened 150 k FB girls that everyone knows about or some methed up girl from El Centro LOL.

A couple of years ago someone posted a few names from FB with whom they had been communicating. They asked for any information on those girls. I knew one pretty well and I responded with honest information. 95% very good. 5% so-so but nothing bad. Well, a day or two later I get a message from her giving me the "fuck you treatment". She didn't want me talking shit about her.

We eventually patched things up. I was just trying to help her but some dick on here had to write her and tell her she was being discussed and slammed on the board. He must of thought that would endear her to him. BTW she knew it was me even though my ISG name isn't the same as my FB name. But she doesn't see many people so she knew who it was. So I learned my lesson. -0- referrals unless I've met you and I think you belong in the sane universe.

So recently I met an older gentleman on this board and sent him a few referrals. He didn't think some of them were cute enough (which was bizarre, to say the least). He did meet one of them and paid her a rate commensurate with 5 years ago. Thing is, that guy is not short of money.

Anyway, I've learned my lesson. I just don't give referrals to guys unless I know them really well. It just won't work out well.

[Casa No Va]

I am writing this from the airport returning from Medellin. Missed my connecting flight due to delay on the first flight. Had to stay overnight in hotel for next flight. At least it was the flight returning from Medellin.

It was a good trip. I saw mostly old favorites but I did see three new girls. Everyone was good to me and everyone was late to very late. Most of the girls I saw were 18 to 20, the others were 22 to 24. Facebook girls only.

I knowingly took the risk of going all bareback on this trip. Most girls will say no, some girls will say yes. I had enough options to just see the girls who said yes.

That also meant not seeing a lot of wonderful girls so next time I will mix it up.

I thought the food was decent with a lot of international options and hamburgers.

There are also some good value hotels and Abnbs for the $50 to $60 range guest friendly. You just need to confirm the guest policy before booking.

I stayed half the time in Laureles and half in Poblado. Both have advantages and disadvantages.

They took the fence down around Park Lleras. I saw a decent amount of quality streetwalkers on the main street where Hotel Dix is located. That hotel is definitely convenient if you want to see these girls.

The only disappointment was a threesome with two 18 year old girls who were friends. They promised they would do everything and of course they didn't. But I can't really complain about a threesome with two attractive girls.

Hey Moon Shot. I understand your position on wanting to keep gems to yourself. Can I pick your brain on your method of negotiating BBFS. I've had success negotiating in the room after they see what I'm working with and my hygiene. Just negotiating BBBJ beforehand but it seems like you negotiate before you even meet them. Over FB messenger or switching to Whattsapp? Do you tell them you will provide tests results? Or is it a numbers game like you said Any insight or strategies would be much appreciated. Thanks.

[FRobertson]

Nah you bugging, I always tip higher in Colombia, even in the states I tip more than the standard 20% for great service.

But how much do you tip the captain and the first officer of your airplane when they land particularly well? Do you tip more when you get a particularly good fare on Frontier or Spirit?

And how much do you tip the receptionist at the doctor's office?

And when you get your power and gas bills, do you throw in a few extra bucks for the hard-working people there?

And how much do you tip the cashier at Publix, and the girls at McDonald's drive through?