Medellin Reports

[Questner]

Yes, but if you read well, not only this article but also related ones, you see that most accusations look exaggerated (read also the comments by El Universo readers, all flamed against sex tourists who go to Cartagena to enjoy girls, like 99% of the readers of this forum). By the way, I think there is high probability that this guy is / was a regular poster here.

The alleged implication of minors seems to be a minor point of the whole story. The point is that police in these days in Colombia is acting to fight "PROXENETISMO". They arrested 5 people in Cartagena, and also closed a few bars at Bomba de El Amparo. Then my question: what is "PROXENETISMO" in Colombia? Not certainly organizing a business of girls. Doing it without license?

http://perso.unifr.ch/derechopenal/a...0130808_01.pdf

Article 213 and following Articles.

My strong suggestion IMHO is to refrain in discussing Colombian law as it applies to Colombian nationals only.

[FruitNinja]

I take it he is looking for a wife. So he went straight to Colombia for a few months thinking he could turn a hooker into a wife. Its not like he is the only one. I am amazed out how many people on here call these girls their novia, ect, ect. Its funny. Shopping for a girlfriend or wife among Colombian hookers is a different type of person than your average monger. If you are one of the guys who can pull it off you'll just be paying a long term GFE fee while she bangs the young guys in town. If your able to get her back with you.

I did a spreadsheet of what it cost me for 20 years of marriage and all the associated divorce costs. I wish I had started buying pussy at a younger age. Would have saved a lot of frustration and money.

[FruitNinja]

http://www.eluniversal.com.co/suceso...netismo-173989

A question comes to my mind. I thought prostitution is legal in Colombia (see the number of grills). Then, what is the felony of "proxenetism" exactly? Doing that without official license?

This was on the CBS network News last night. Crux of the story was kid trafficking. I think that's illegal regardless of where you live. And the age in the US follows you no matter where you travel.

[Cbear13]

Anybody up for a drink.

[Black Page]

The article says this (American) guy was involved in child pornography, pimping, and having sex with girls 14-17yrs old.

Yes, but if you read well, not only this article but also related ones, you see that most accusations look exaggerated (read also the comments by El Universo readers, all flamed against sex tourists who go to Cartagena to enjoy girls, like 99% of the readers of this forum). By the way, I think there is high probability that this guy is / was a regular poster here.

The alleged implication of minors seems to be a minor point of the whole story. The point is that police in these days in Colombia is acting to fight "PROXENETISMO". They arrested 5 people in Cartagena, and also closed a few bars at Bomba de El Amparo. Then my question: what is "PROXENETISMO" in Colombia? Not certainly organizing a business of girls. Doing it without license?

[SavePros321]

http://www.eluniversal.com.co/suceso...netismo-173989

A question comes to my mind. I thought prostitution is legal in Colombia (see the number of grills). Then, what is the felony of "proxenetism" exactly? Doing that without official license?

The article says this (American) guy was involved in child pornography, pimping, and having sex with girls 14-17yrs old.

[Black Page]

http://www.eluniversal.com.co/suceso...netismo-173989

A question comes to my mind. I thought prostitution is legal in Colombia (see the number of grills). Then, what is the felony of "proxenetism" exactly? Doing that without official license?

[C Jack Sparrow]

So my question to you is: is that what you really want? You want to fly all the way from Europe to Colombia just to pay 3 times more money? I am sure you can find Colombianas working all over Europe and parts of Asia that charge more than they would if they were in Medellin. Hell, you could even save yourself travel time if you just went to Costa Rica or Panama. You will have no problem finding Colombianas charging 3x more than they would back home.

I know all of this sounds like "negative thinking" to you, but maybe it is because I am American. I guess I am just asking you to help me understand that, even if money is not an issue for you, what is the attraction of flying thousands of miles and wanting to pay Colombianas 3x more money when you can just do so in London, Amsterdam, Germany, etc.?

Here in the US I can get on Backpage or Craigslist and find Colombianas offering their services for $300+ per hour. I definitely have the money, but why would I pay that when I can go right to the source (Colombia) and pay far less?

Of equal note: If you still insists on paying more money and doing so in Colombia, you could always go to Cartagena. No shortage of over-priced chicas there, plus they have a beach!

I was actually focusing on the huge potential Medellin have to become a a place for producing pornography.

Brazil has made it and are today a big contributor.

US produces 25.000 scenes a year of HQ pornography.

Medelllin, with it's acceptance for beautiful prepagos and easy and open lifestyle about sex; Can it become a center for producing HQ pornography?

Then I added that many girls likes doing it, but yet not all the way. Today in the US it has exploaded into +100 niches and maybe 25.000 is an underestimation.

Medellin have an enourmous amount of sexy young girls, 80% are younger than 35 yo of the close to 2 million females in the metropolitan area.

Wages and total prodution costs should be a lot lower than Brazil.

No matter who is the winners and loosers etc, I just see that here are a potential; Medellin is Colombia's Barcelona that have / had PRIVATE, it's the same entrepreurial mentality here!

[Jergens007]

Nothing compares to Loutrons amazing ambiance! I still wonder how much business they get to pay for the large ass mansion and land to run a casa business.

I'm sure there is more to it, drug lords house or hosting private parties. That place is fucking huge!

In terms of quality of women, I like my women with big tits and big asses, enhanced is fine with me. Model material, playboy, chica audio, studio F types.

I heard Abydos is part of lourtons? Are the quality of the women the same? I went to new life. Didn't see anything I want.

Which way?

If you mean price? Answer is none.

Ambiance? None.

Quality of girls? Yes. I think Energy and Abydos have better quality. Younger and less silicone.

I also think girls on Masjista paisas and Paisa Divinas have better quality.

[El Patron24]

So my question to you is: is that what you really want? You want to fly all the way from Europe to Colombia just to pay 3 times more money? I am sure you can find Colombianas working all over Europe and parts of Asia that charge more than they would if they were in Medellin. Hell, you could even save yourself travel time if you just went to Costa Rica or Panama. You will have no problem finding Colombianas charging 3x more than they would back home.

I know all of this sounds like "negative thinking" to you, but maybe it is because I am American. I guess I am just asking you to help me understand that, even if money is not an issue for you, what is the attraction of flying thousands of miles and wanting to pay Colombianas 3x more money when you can just do so in London, Amsterdam, Germany, etc.?

Here in the US I can get on Backpage or Craigslist and find Colombianas offering their services for $300+ per hour. I definitely have the money, but why would I pay that when I can go right to the source (Colombia) and pay far less?

Of equal note: If you still insists on paying more money and doing so in Colombia, you could always go to Cartagena. No shortage of over-priced chicas there, plus they have a beach!

I take it he is looking for a wife. So he went straight to Colombia for a few months thinking he could turn a hooker into a wife. Its not like he is the only one. I am amazed out how many people on here call these girls their novia, ect, ect. Its funny. Shopping for a girlfriend or wife among Colombian hookers is a different type of person than your average monger. If you are one of the guys who can pull it off you'll just be paying a long term GFE fee while she bangs the young guys in town. If your able to get her back with you.

[Ricker]

I wrote that it's the combination of watching Gianna Nicole, the piasas in the street, New Life, dating a pretty you. -student. Etc.

You are 100% correct about the industry as such, I meant paisas could make money as their american sisters do, in Colombia, using their porno talents to charge 3 times more, as already Cola de la Valle and Chica's Car Audio models do.

That was my bottom line. Porn in Colombia and Medellin.

The -General Section- would be perfect for this type of Porn in Colombia debate.

[SavePros321]

You are 100% correct about the industry as such, I meant paisas could make money as their american sisters do, in Colombia, using their porno talents to charge 3 times more, as already Cola de la Valle and Chica's Car Audio models do.

A local Medellin-Gianna Nicole could charge a lot more, both as webcam model and prepago.

So my question to you is: is that what you really want? You want to fly all the way from Europe to Colombia just to pay 3 times more money? I am sure you can find Colombianas working all over Europe and parts of Asia that charge more than they would if they were in Medellin. Hell, you could even save yourself travel time if you just went to Costa Rica or Panama. You will have no problem finding Colombianas charging 3x more than they would back home.

I know all of this sounds like "negative thinking" to you, but maybe it is because I am American. I guess I am just asking you to help me understand that, even if money is not an issue for you, what is the attraction of flying thousands of miles and wanting to pay Colombianas 3x more money when you can just do so in London, Amsterdam, Germany, etc.?

Here in the US I can get on Backpage or Craigslist and find Colombianas offering their services for $300+ per hour. I definitely have the money, but why would I pay that when I can go right to the source (Colombia) and pay far less?

Of equal note: If you still insists on paying more money and doing so in Colombia, you could always go to Cartagena. No shortage of over-priced chicas there, plus they have a beach!

[C Jack Sparrow]

Well, here you go:

http://www.xvideos.com/profiles/gianna-nicole

118 videos for your wanking pleasure :-D

EVEN BETTER: Buy the Chromcast dongle for $35 at Amazon.com and push the video from your laptop or smartphone to your HD TV!

Now, wouldn't you be one pissed-off "Anglo-Saxon Male" if you were one of the 118 suckers who paid her $1000+ USD to make a porno with her (and hoped to make money from it), only to find that they are abundantly available for free on the internet?


That's not hard to believe. The ones that usually make a killing in porn are the females. Look at all the guys who paid money out the ass to make videos with your Gianna Nicole. They most likely never recouped their initial investment, whereas her and her boyfriend/pimp are probably on their 2nd or 3rd Porsche!

I know a few pros here in the states that make a ton of money from webcam shows. Also the trend I've been starting to see is that US escorts will make a porno and use it is as a business card to gen up business and grow their clientle (like the Zumba instructor Alexis Wright. She has a handful of vids on the net as well: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-released.html)

But the loser are always the porn producers. It's interesting that back in the late 90's early 2000's they were proclaiming how digital and HD video + internet was going to be a godsend for their industry (because it allowed them to shoot for cheaper and faster with minimal crew; internet would bypass distributors ("cut out the middleman") and allow them to connect directly with their customers), when in the end it turned out to be the exact thing that tanked their industry.

I wrote that it's the combination of watching Gianna Nicole, the piasas in the street, New Life, dating a pretty you. -student. Etc.

You are 100% correct about the industry as such, I meant paisas could make money as their american sisters do, in Colombia, using their porno talents to charge 3 times more, as already Cola de la Valle and Chica's Car Audio models do.

That was my bottom line. Porn in Colombia and Medellin.

Prepagos is everywhere and it's OK in a way that would never be accepted in Western countries.

They pay for real sex, we pay for 2 dimensional. Pornstars Webcam-models as you say; Abella Anderson or Natasha from Culioneros are the winners, the latter one of very few Colombian pornstars that makes a name for herself, but not using her commercial potencial as an american MILF would do!

We accept porn, but not prepagos, latin countries the way around.

In this global times, are this going to change?

A local Medellin-Gianna Nicole could charge a lot more, both as webcam model and prepago.

What surprised me was the curiosity, the willingness to do it among my paisa lovers about porn. They want to do it in private, and if possible, abroad.

I love the female show-off mentality among the paisas, they just love sex!

Make some videos with your New Life prepagos and bring home to Sexprison.

I understand you, there is a contradiction on the general level, but on the personal level you can have have both!

We all want to see more Esperanza Gomez-girls, Culioneros-girls.

Jergens7 is into it his own way which I also dig; going for the top-notch famous Bikini models, I also like pornstars, which does not exclude New Life, Loutron, Iglesia Veracruz, not a paisa novia or even future wife.

All the erotics in all it's forms!

In the XXX industry the girls who became stars make a lot of money, not all of them, maybe 1 of 100. A lot of them make good money, but as we want new prepagos all the time, the XXX industry changes female stars in matter of months, few of them have a stardome more than a year or two and in that perspective it's not that much money, for 99% of the female models it's about paying the bills and the university tuition.

About pornos made in Colombia, Brazil, I find them much more relaxed, natural, without that high decibel moaning that is such a total turn off, even if american girls many times are very sexy, it's just to unreal and volume has to be turned down or even off!

There is a reason of taste, a demand to get more of Latinamerican made XXX.

[SBeach25]

This is funny to read. On my second trip to Medellin I stayed in a high rise in El Poblado and heard the same sounds that you are talking about. These sounds you are hearing are just fireworks 100%. I have never heard gunfire in El Poblado or in the Southern half of Medellin for that matter. In the 2 years of dating my girlfriend I have never heard gunfire in her barrio and it is located in a tough neighborhood in the North. 10+ years ago there were paramilitaries with machine guns at the entrances of the toughest neighborhoods in the high hills in the North. Machine gun fighting was heard weekly in these areas at night. Currently these neighborhoods are not safe but the extreme violence of those days are over in Medellin.

For you guys who are new to Medellin the city is divided into two sections: The North and The South. Almost everything that is talked about on this board is located in The South and almost all of The South is relatively safe if you take basic precautions. The North is poor and there are some very tough neighborhoods located there. Be very careful when entering The North.

A common walk I make when in Medellin is between Calle 50 and Calle 30 and Carrera 65 and Carrera 80. This IS NOT a good area to meet working girls but a relatively safe area to experience Medellin outside of El Poblado. Don't wear shorts if you want to blend in a little and not stand out as an obvious tourist.

Colombians play some sort of bean bag toss. The idea is to hit these bags with a hard object from a distance. Each of these bags hold a little gun powder and a flint that explodes due to the spark that is created when hit with the solid object. Not sure what the game is called but it sounds like gun shots. I used to live in San Diego hills and for a while I thought it was gun shots too till I decide to investigate. There are people below who was playing this game. Much like the little snappers you see kids throw in the street they make little fire cracker sounds. Same thing but much bigger and it sounds like a gun shot. Check our Anthony Bourdain, HE was playing this game with the colombians when visiting. You are safe. Now if you see 2 guys on a motorcycle at night, I would keep my guard up. It is illegal as normally this is guys from the barrio looking for a mark.

[SavePros321]

I want it all; hot girlfriend, prepagos, HQ-HD porn, striptease clubs, elegant and sexy girls in the everyday life; The New Life girls does not replace Gianna Nicole, watching her in HD 8 am in the morning is the spark that get me going to be at New Life 8. 59 am!

Well, here you go:

http://www.xvideos.com/profiles/gianna-nicole

118 videos for your wanking pleasure :-D

EVEN BETTER: Buy the Chromcast dongle for $35 at Amazon.com and push the video from your laptop or smartphone to your HD TV!

Now, wouldn't you be one pissed-off "Anglo-Saxon Male" if you were one of the 118 suckers who paid her $1000+ USD to make a porno with her (and hoped to make money from it), only to find that they are abundantly available for free on the internet?

I have girlfriend that has made $US 5000, but of course she is awesome and the videos are of good quality.

That's not hard to believe. The ones that usually make a killing in porn are the females. Look at all the guys who paid money out the ass to make videos with your Gianna Nicole. They most likely never recouped their initial investment, whereas her and her boyfriend/pimp are probably on their 2nd or 3rd Porsche!

I know a few pros here in the states that make a ton of money from webcam shows. Also the trend I've been starting to see is that US escorts will make a porno and use it is as a business card to gen up business and grow their clientle (like the Zumba instructor Alexis Wright. She has a handful of vids on the net as well: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-released.html)

But the loser are always the porn producers. It's interesting that back in the late 90's early 2000's they were proclaiming how digital and HD video + internet was going to be a godsend for their industry (because it allowed them to shoot for cheaper and faster with minimal crew; internet would bypass distributors ("cut out the middleman") and allow them to connect directly with their customers), when in the end it turned out to be the exact thing that tanked their industry.