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06-14-14 00:01 #14590
Posts: 957Originally Posted by Socker [View Original Post]
But your position is that prostitution is hard work, and that you appreciate what they do.
So why don't you just pay them more? Nothing wrong with that.
The problem is that if you call it "tipping," then over time it becomes expected. Just read the forums. Everyone once in a while someone will complain about girls getting surly when you don't tip them.
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06-13-14 23:29 #14589
Posts: 179Originally Posted by Manny51 [View Original Post]
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06-13-14 23:03 #14588
Posts: 2874Originally Posted by Manny51 [View Original Post]
1. a gift or reward, usually of money, for services rendered; tip.
2. something given without claim or obligation.
Straight from the dictionary.
If a girl performs normally, nothing special, don't tip.
If she performs exceptionally and you'd like to reward her, show your appreciation and tip if you'd like. Of course you don't have to.
If she then, in another encounter, doesn't perform well again, don't tip.
If she feels disrespected or asks why no tip this time, tell her why.
Ain't rocket science.
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06-13-14 22:49 #14587
Posts: 2874Originally Posted by Manny51 [View Original Post]
I don't care about the long run. Five years from now when she's washed up in the business and a hardened pro demanding tips, and less happy because the tips just aren't there.
I've already moved on.
Tipping being stupid is your opinion.
To me tipping is a tool.
I don't condone over tipping like a fool. Like Socker said, it really doesn't get you any further than a small, appreciative tip will.
To each their own really.
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06-13-14 22:49 #14586
Posts: 1085Aaaaaa Okay
Originally Posted by Manny51 [View Original Post]
Hookers who have a fair amount of business can make really good money and that's how it should be. I can't think of a harder job than prostituton, where the lady drinks and parties w / you for YOUR pleasure and YOUR entertainment.
This job has extremely serious downsides yet the good hookers maintain a level of class and respect w / in their ranks and w / their clients.
So some might do very well, and tips are part of their success and some are paid very little and rely on tips to make ends meet.
I was just in Angeles City and I didn't see a lot a well off BGs. I saw hard working ladies dancing for hours w / various levels of desperation, a few popular ladies, all of which none were well off.
Ask them if tipping is stupid.
Prostitution is 100% service oriented and it's the hardest profession to provide good service, yet they try almost every time.
Thanks for your opinion. The above is mine. We are all a little different as it should be. Wouldn't it be freaking boring if we were all the same.....everything is as it should be here and everywhere.
I want to thank my mom for having me 6 decades ago :)
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06-13-14 22:46 #14585
Posts: 219Originally Posted by DonSterling [View Original Post]
Back to my original example. Let's suppose I tip 4 casa jefes, 2 mil each, after going through 10 casas. This adds up to $4 total. If I am with someone else we are talking about $2 each. This was just a suggestion. Works for me.
As Ricker eluded to, it is about the vibe and friendliness. I don't feel comfortable passing through some of these places, some for as much as a year or more, without taking any girls. I do believe that these tips do not go unrewarded also. I find myself in many situations where things just seem to go my way. Maybe it is the karma? Probably just my attitude with the tips helping a little.
Don Sterling, I can see that you understand Colombian culture and have been around Colombians. IMO there are threads of truth in many of your assertions. I don't agree with not tipping and doing exactly as Colombians do though. I enjoy tipping 1-2 mil and receiving the warm responses. Also, I am never viewed as a sucker. It is all about finding the balance and repeating the habit. Same applies with the girls.
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06-13-14 22:43 #14584
Posts: 695I never tip in Colombia, but the inverse things can happen sometimes. Last year, whenever I bought a piece of pastry at my fav panaderia in El Centro, a friendly girl at the shop always put an extra piece in the bag. That made me very happy. I may start tipping a few nice girls at panaderias this year.
Originally Posted by Bart1 [View Original Post]
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06-13-14 22:41 #14583
Posts: 957Maybe we should just clarify the semantics.
Tipping is when you give a percentage in addition to the total purchase price. It is not mandatory, but somewhat obligatory. Even if small, some tip is expected, and not to tip is considered impolite unless service was bad.
What most guys are doing is just deciding to give girls extra money for a job well done.
The problem is that when you call it a "tip," it means that giving it is obligatory. Then later down the line, the girls feel disrespected when you don't give it.
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06-13-14 22:35 #14582
Posts: 139Tipping
Originally Posted by Bart1 [View Original Post]
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06-13-14 22:29 #14581
Posts: 1085Either or
Originally Posted by CaliHentai [View Original Post]
I only tip for good service and after more than a few cocktails I can get pretty happy and over tip. I am also enamored w / some of these gals and so I want to give.
More to show my appreciation for the magic they provide. My observation is that tipping appropriately or over tipping are usually accepted w / a polite thank you or nod.
I would love it to hear a big laugh of joy and the little babe jumps up into my arms and says THANK YOU SOCKER!! Planting a big kiss on my cheek. Jaja.
Over tipping just isn't worth it, appropriate tipping is, IMO.
Cheers!
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06-13-14 22:25 #14580
Posts: 305Wading into the Tipping waters
Sure lots of various tipping stories, so I will get into the waters with of few of my experiences. Today I visited my favorite centro casa, I always buy the mamasan there a beer. Today in the midst of bliss we ran 10 + minutes over the 60 minutes. I stopped at the desk to see mamasan on the way out, she gave me a big smile and a wave. That sure beats having your time cut short that I have seen many times at other casas. When I get average or better service I always tip the chica, if I was going to tip the chica and she asks for a tip before I give her one, I give her half of what I was going to give her, and she is put on my possibly no return list. In my fav panaderia in centro, cafe con leche is 1000 cop, I always give the chica 500 cop when I get even only one smile, no smiles no tip One sweetheart, she is younger than my grandaughter, there runs her hand over my shoulders when she walks by me so she gets 1000 cop tip, that is 100% and that is from a canuck and we are known for not tipping In restaurants I tip 10%, if no smiles and lousy service, no tip. Maybe some of you have not heard the joke in Florida about snowbirds from canada. What is the difference between a canadian and a canoe, a canoe tips.
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06-13-14 22:06 #14579
Posts: 179Originally Posted by Socker [View Original Post]
Chicks that come over for an hour and end up staying 4 or 5.
Chicks that are very popular and break dates to be with me and answer their phone 24/7.
Doesn't really make much sense to tip chicks that you don't plan on seeing on a regular basis.
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06-13-14 21:52 #14578
Posts: 957Originally Posted by BayBoy [View Original Post]
Although tipping varies from country to country, even here in the USA, where tipping is most deeply ingrained, there are some industries where you classically tip. Barbers / hair stylists are one of them. Normally, you can just read a Lonely Planet book or something to get an idea of when to tip.
In general, you tip lower level service jobs where the person is paid by an employer. In these settings, the salaries are kept low because the expected tipping income is figured into the employer's mind as part of his salary. He wants it that way, to encourage workers to give good service. In return, the worker gets unrecorded, tax free income.
Any job where you negotiate directly with the provider is NOT a tipping job. For example, it is appropriate to tip a cab driver. But if you negotiate and agree on a price with a personal driver, you generally should not tip him. There are other ways that you can "tip" him, like buying him a beer at the strip club, but not direct cash. It jimmys the deal.
Other people may do differently, but this is general tipping etiquitte. Guys who tip ladies, then get amazed when they demand a tip, need to realize why that is the case. It is psychology 101. Just watch those old high school videos about rewarding monkeys for doing this or that.
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06-13-14 21:10 #14577
Posts: 29Tipping
I don't buy the whole, "these girls are making plenty of money as it is," argument against tipping. Unless you're pulling the girl off the street or through Facebook, she's likely getting only 50% of what you are paying. Yeah, it's not a bad per-hour wage but the job isn't exactly a 9-5 gig either. Ask yourself how much you would want to let 10+ nasty fat chicks hump around on you every day.
I don't tip extravagantly or every time but throwing a girl an extra 5 k or 10 k isn't that big of a deal. I don't tip for some huge gush of appreciative emotion afterwards, I tip because I got better service. Build a report with these girls and reward better service and you will see it.
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06-13-14 20:26 #14576
Posts: 732Tipping Story
A few years ago I was passing thru the Terminal de Transportes in Cali and saw a middle aged woman had a barbershop nook. So I stopped in and got a $3 haircut. It wasn't anything special just a regular haircut. But as I was paying her, she had that look on her face like she wanted a tip. Being the cheapskate that I am, I didn't tip her. But was a plagued with guilt pangs afterwards as I walked off. Should I have tipped her?