Medellin Reports

[SavePros321]

What you did was so stupid, if you did get jacked by the police you would have deserved it. There is no pussy that good. You knew something was wrong and you went along anyway.

People always say they didn't deserve what happened to them when they do stupid shit, but a lot of times they do.

Having to look out the window at the police while fucking, yes sounds like fun.

Keep taking those kind of stupid risk and it will catch up with you eventually.

It's like he was saying: "Warning: don't come here and engage in retarded shit like I do. But if you do decide to go that route, let me show you how it's done!"

I see why some of you are always looking for "wingman" for your trips. Someone to bail your retarded asses out of jail for doing retarded shit, LOL.

[Nino Bravo]

Cali Hentai,

What's hilarious is, guys like you having to tip girls to answer their phones, and spending extra time with you. Jajaja. Are you that much of a turn off?

[Member #4287]

I think it's funny when they ask for a "propina voluntaria". Be*tch! The fact that you're asking me for it, by definition, means that it's not "voluntaria"!

This tip topic is getting pretty hilarious. Are these women asking for a tip or are they really commanding you to give a tip. "propina voluntaria, YA!" jajaja.

[Vegas Jeff]

I did a threesome with a couple of negritas in barcelona (casa) a couple of weeks ago and they REALLY did a good job of acting amazed at my cock size and level of my energy and stamina. When I busted my nut, the one I fucked last went and sat on the floor like she was in awe of how long and hard I pounded her. They asked for a propina so I gave them each 5 k. That goes against my rules but hey they gave me a hell of an ego boost.

I have known this 20 year old semi pro girl named Sophia for about 4 months now. She is not a newbie but does not have sex for money that often. This girl is really pretty but has an inclination toward other girls. After having sex with her a few times in the past she started trying to persuade me to have threesomes with her. Sophia is pretty and tiny so anything remotely like her would be good.

A few weeks ago Sophia calls me and says that she is ready for the threesome. [Deleted by Admin]. She tells me that they want 250 k plus 30 k for taxi. I tell her no problem. I tell her that everything needs to be no condom and she needs to help with the new girl if necessary. She says no problem.

She calls me on the scheduled day and we set a date. After both of them arrive, things are going well. This girl is not brand new to P4 P but doesn't have much experience. I ask the other girl how old she is and she says 20. At this point I realize that she has brought a different girl. This girl is not nearly as hot as I would have expected but still doable. She has a great personality and things are connected. Other than the fact that I am not really hot for the other girl the sex is great. 69 between the girls with individual sessions of DATY. Everything is full service with switches from sex to BJ with girls alternating positions. We take a break for lunch and have another good second session. Although I had a great session I just can't get into the other girl enough for a repeat. 280 k with taxi included for about 3 1/2 hours.

Today, I had Sophia and [Deleted by Admin]. She arrived and was clearly hotter than the first girl but not as hot as Sophia. We listen to some music and smoke some pot. I ask the new girl how old she is and she says 18. She says that her birthday was 5 days ago. Well there goes that. I am still trying to figure out what I lost or gained by this revelation?? Afterward they hop in the shower and I get the room setup. We all get undressed. I start off by going down on the new girl. Sophia is rubbing her breasts and they are making out. I mount up in mish and off we go. The sex is connected and I am making out with Sophia a little. I switch over to Sophia. After about 3 minutes of sex she tells me to stop. I look down and there is blood everywhere. I am bareback also! I jump in the shower and she follows me in. She tells me that it is not her period and she has no soreness but this has happened before. I told her that she is out of commission for sex as I had a mental block from all that blood. After the shower Sophia gives me a great BJ while the other girl goes to the bathroom. She comes out of the bathroom and these girls are hot for each other. Some 69 action and then Sophia is eating this girl intensely. This is really hot. After this I fuck her for about 5 minutes. Sex is good. I switch positions and after 2 minutes this girl is a dead finish. She says that she is tired. I had only had sex one time in the previous 4 days and wanted much more. She says that she is hungry. I tell Sophia and her to get something to eat and I would wait in the bedroom. About 15 minutes later the girls return after eating cereal. The new girl gets on top and sex is really good but only for about 5 minutes. This girl is tired already again. I hop out of bed and jump in the shower. I get dressed to signal the session is over. 280 k for about 2 hours.

Afterward I kissed Sophia on my balcony and told her that it wasn't her fault. The blood was probably the difference between a great session and an unsatisfied session. As her and I both know, this is the unpredictable side that comes with new girls also. In P4 P it is all about ME. With regular girls it is all about them. This girl hadn't made that transition yet. I have seen this characteristic before in selfish nonpro Paisas. She had her orgasm and some good sex and was ready to go.

Moral of the story: Stay away from the nonpros and stick to the casas. Jajaja.

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[TellAll]

Another thing, just because a chica works in a casa don't automatically assume that she's over 18 years old. I did a threesome with an 18 year old and 19 year old at a casa and I got their phone number to see them back at my hotel. Well when they show up they tell me that the 18 year old doesn't have her cedula. I told her well nevermind I'll just bang the 19 year old because I'm not going to try to get a very young looking chica past the hotel front desk with no cedula, I'll look like a f*cking creep and they might call the cops. The 19 year old speaks up and says let's go to one of the sh*tty hotels in el centro, they won't mind. I try to tell her I don't even want to try it at all, but I really wanted to bang the 19 year old and she was acting like she might leave too if I run off her little friend. So we walk to this shitty hotel that has a police sub station right across the street and the 19 year old talks the hotel lady into letting us in without showing cedulas. I'm thinking oh shit this is going to turn into a set up and I'm about to get fucked and not in a good way, but I follow my little head. Anyways I'm pounding the 18 year old while I'm looking out the window at the cops across the street. I'm literally looking to see if the hotel lady is going to get the cops to come shake me down. I'm that paranoid at this exact moment. I ended up banging the hell out of both of them, paying them, and feeling happy as hell to get the hell out of there without any problems. Moral of the story: the casas are SUPPOSED to only hire girls with valid I'd, but that isn't always the case, so watch your ass.

What you did was so stupid, if you did get jacked by the police you would have deserved it. There is no pussy that good. You knew something was wrong and you went along anyway.

People always say they didn't deserve what happened to them when they do stupid shit, but a lot of times they do.

Having to look out the window at the police while fucking, yes sounds like fun.

Keep taking those kind of stupid risk and it will catch up with you eventually.

[Jinxx]

I think it's funny when they ask for a "propina voluntaria". Be*tch! The fact that you're asking me for it, by definition, means that it's not "voluntaria"!

I did a threesome with a couple of negritas in barcelona (casa) a couple of weeks ago and they REALLY did a good job of acting amazed at my cock size and level of my energy and stamina. When I busted my nut, the one I fucked last went and sat on the floor like she was in awe of how long and hard I pounded her. They asked for a propina so I gave them each 5 k. That goes against my rules but hey they gave me a hell of an ego boost.

Oh yea and stay away from "Nataly" at Zandaly casa. She's a real pretty, petite, white skinned chica with some nice fake boobs. She's sexy as hell but her service sucks. After about 1 minute of fucking she starts the "dame tu leche" which basically means "hurry up and cum", then she can't take it doggy style for more than maybe a minute. That's what she did the first time I saw her, then I picked her again hoping her service would improve the second time around and it was the same shitty experience.

Another thing, just because a chica works in a casa don't automatically assume that she's over 18 years old. I did a threesome with an 18 year old and 19 year old at a casa and I got their phone number to see them back at my hotel. Well when they show up they tell me that the 18 year old doesn't have her cedula. I told her well nevermind I'll just bang the 19 year old because I'm not going to try to get a very young looking chica past the hotel front desk with no cedula, I'll look like a f*cking creep and they might call the cops. The 19 year old speaks up and says let's go to one of the sh*tty hotels in el centro, they won't mind. I try to tell her I don't even want to try it at all, but I really wanted to bang the 19 year old and she was acting like she might leave too if I run off her little friend. So we walk to this shitty hotel that has a police sub station right across the street and the 19 year old talks the hotel lady into letting us in without showing cedulas. I'm thinking oh shit this is going to turn into a set up and I'm about to get fucked and not in a good way, but I follow my little head. Anyways I'm pounding the 18 year old while I'm looking out the window at the cops across the street. I'm literally looking to see if the hotel lady is going to get the cops to come shake me down. I'm that paranoid at this exact moment. I ended up banging the hell out of both of them, paying them, and feeling happy as hell to get the hell out of there without any problems. Moral of the story: the casas are SUPPOSED to only hire girls with valid I'd, but that isn't always the case, so watch your ass.

[Orgasmico]

Speaking of restaurants, I've seen a lot of mongers who don't even look at a restaurant bill and see that the gratuity has already been put on the bill. Which is usually 10%. They just throw on a tip to whatever the amount is and don't realize they've already been charged.

I wonder what the difference is between American and non-American visitors to Colombia when it comes to issues like these, particularly Europeans.

[Bart1]

I have been to the metro stations at Parque Berrio and San Antonio at 6 PM, people are lined up 20 to 30 or more deep to buy a one way ticket home from el centro after a long working day. Now tell me if you ride the metro daily why not have the prepaid card to avoid the long waits after you have worked as a waitress for a 12 hours, a normal daily work shift for 25 k, its because you are living basically hand to mouth. Those propinas are definitely needed especially by the chicas that work 12 hours for 25 k in cafes even more so than the chicas working 30 minutes for their 25 k in a casa.

[Bart1]

Speaking of restaurants, I've seen a lot of mongers who don't even look at a restaurant bill and see that the gratuity has already been put on the bill. Which is usually 10%. They just throw on a tip to whatever the amount is and don't realize they've already been charged.

That may be the case in gringolandia, el poblado, but down here in el centro, the real Colombia, that only happens in a few upscale cafes. I also wonder what little if any of the auto added 10% ever reaches the hands of the chicas. I still always tip 10% even when I see the gratuity listed on the bill. A week ago I left a 500 cop tip in a panaderia I had not been before under my coffee cup saucer, we do have China cups and saucers in el centro, the chica came to me when I was at the cashier paying for my one cup of cafe, to give me the 500 cop, I told her it was her propina, then a big smile. , only in Colombia eh?

[Vegas Jeff]

I can't think of a harder job than prostituton, where the lady drinks and parties w / you for YOUR pleasure and YOUR entertainment.

This is a common perception of prostitutes. After spending extended time in The Third World around people, who work regular jobs, I find it hard to see things this way.

IMO Prostitution is a job for a lazy person. They all know that this was only an avenue to take under desperate circumstances and they got comfortable. I am constantly telling these girls things like, "you are pretty, you have a nice personality, you are smart, and talented, but you are lazy". Surprisingly, the girls do not get mad and see me as someone who cares. I have the perfect personality to get in these girl's faces, without judging them, when it comes to things like this. I don't nag these girls and let them do as they will.

The tough job will be returning to the normal workforce after age starts to take it's toll and the life of "easy money" ends.

[BayBoy]

Speaking of restaurants, I've seen a lot of mongers who don't even look at a restaurant bill and see that the gratuity has already been put on the bill. Which is usually 10%. They just throw on a tip to whatever the amount is and don't realize they've already been charged.

[Manny51]

That's funny, I never feel like giving a tip or gratuity is obligatory, and by definition it isn't either:

1. a gift or reward, usually of money, for services rendered; tip.

2. something given without claim or obligation.

Straight from the dictionary.

If a girl performs normally, nothing special, don't tip.

If she performs exceptionally and you'd like to reward her, show your appreciation and tip if you'd like. Of course you don't have to.

If she then, in another encounter, doesn't perform well again, don't tip.

If she feels disrespected or asks why no tip this time, tell her why.

Ain't rocket science.

Where did you get that definition? Any definition in cultural context should include that, in an economic and cultural sense, at least some tip is obligatory. You know that full well that if you go to a a restaurant and don't tip the waitress, she will be mad, and you will feel bad. You know what I mean. Don't draw this out for the sake of arguing over semantics. I'm just trying to straighten out the semantics.

[Manny51]

The ultimate service work is prostitution and so I guess you can do w / out good or friendly service when seeking sexual services.

Hookers who have a fair amount of business can make really good money and that's how it should be. I can't think of a harder job than prostituton, where the lady drinks and parties w / you for YOUR pleasure and YOUR entertainment.

This job has extremely serious downsides yet the good hookers maintain a level of class and respect w / in their ranks and w / their clients.

So some might do very well, and tips are part of their success and some are paid very little and rely on tips to make ends meet.

I was just in Angeles City and I didn't see a lot a well off BGs. I saw hard working ladies dancing for hours w / various levels of desperation, a few popular ladies, all of which none were well off.

Ask them if tipping is stupid.

Prostitution is 100% service oriented and it's the hardest profession to provide good service, yet they try almost every time.

Thanks for your opinion. The above is mine. We are all a little different as it should be. Wouldn't it be freaking boring if we were all the same.....everything is as it should be here and everywhere.

I want to thank my mom for having me 6 decades ago :)

Of course I respect your opinion and everyone's right to have one.

But your position is that prostitution is hard work, and that you appreciate what they do.

So why don't you just pay them more? Nothing wrong with that.

The problem is that if you call it "tipping," then over time it becomes expected. Just read the forums. Everyone once in a while someone will complain about girls getting surly when you don't tip them.

[Member #4287]

Maybe we should just clarify the semantics.

Tipping is when you give a percentage in addition to the total purchase price. It is not mandatory, but somewhat obligatory. Even if small, some tip is expected, and not to tip is considered impolite unless service was bad.

What most guys are doing is just deciding to give girls extra money for a job well done.

The problem is that when you call it a "tip," it means that giving it is obligatory. Then later down the line, the girls feel disrespected when you don't give it.

In Colombia I pay the service provider and then I hand them the "tip" and say " y la propina voluntaria". The phrase is so common. Yet. Somewhat unexpected when tipping a prepago that it often elicits at least a smile.

[Ricker]

The problem is that when you call it a "tip," it means that giving it is obligatory. Then later down the line, the girls feel disrespected when you don't give it.

That's funny, I never feel like giving a tip or gratuity is obligatory, and by definition it isn't either:

1. a gift or reward, usually of money, for services rendered; tip.

2. something given without claim or obligation.

Straight from the dictionary.

If a girl performs normally, nothing special, don't tip.

If she performs exceptionally and you'd like to reward her, show your appreciation and tip if you'd like. Of course you don't have to.

If she then, in another encounter, doesn't perform well again, don't tip.

If she feels disrespected or asks why no tip this time, tell her why.

Ain't rocket science.