Medellin Reports

[Iguana Six]

It depends how you dress. IMO chinos are less likely to be viewed as a tourist. There are many asians who live and work in latin countries. They speak the language hire locals to work and are more IMO a part of the local community than most gringo expats.

If you are an ABC (american born Chinese) and you wear gringo clothes the deal is off. You will be just another gringo.

If you are concerned about being asian in MDE " Don't Be " just dress like an asian living in Colombia not like an asian visiting from the USA. Ie. A collared dress shirt (worn casually) and dark slacks (non expensive) vs an Affliction T- shirt and Nikes.

I personally would feel more comfortable hanging out with a chino than another gringo in MDE.

Artisttyp is correct. He hit the nail on the head about how asians are part of every latin american country. Heck, Peru elected Fujimori president, and his daughter ran in the last election. He is also correct about the following the dress code. While teenagers here try to dress like US mall rats, the 30 or 40 or 50 something gringo in a t shirt and shorts and sandals is a screaming advertisement for a kidnapping. Except the locals know they do not have enough money to make it worth their while.

[BayBoy]

To add to this Asian discussion. I've seen a few Asians walking around Cartagena, Bogota, Medellin, and Cali. Never gave it a second thought just figured they were local residents going about their daily lives. There are Asian owned businesses in all these places as well.

[Artisttyp]

Matt,

What do you mean by "In El Centro, locals do to Asians somethings they do not do to gringos, though subconsciously perhaps." Please elaborate. So being a chino, I'll be looked upon as a second class tourist fellow compared to the gringos in MDE? I don't look or dress like a mainland Chinese since I'm 'Americanized', but I guess hard to break other countries' stereotypes about Chinese men. I can do some kung fu in the bedroom!

It depends how you dress. IMO chinos are less likely to be viewed as a tourist. There are many asians who live and work in latin countries. They speak the language hire locals to work and are more IMO a part of the local community than most gringo expats.

If you are an ABC (american born Chinese) and you wear gringo clothes the deal is off. You will be just another gringo.

If you are concerned about being asian in MDE " Don't Be " just dress like an asian living in Colombia not like an asian visiting from the USA. Ie. A collared dress shirt (worn casually) and dark slacks ( non expensive) vs an Affliction T- shirt and Nikes.

I personally would feel more comfortable hanging out with a chino than another gringo in MDE.

[SavePros321]

Matt,

What do you mean by "In El Centro, locals do to Asians somethings they do not do to gringos, though subconsciously perhaps." Please elaborate. So being a chino, I'll be looked upon as a second class tourist fellow compared to the gringos in MDE? I don't look or dress like a mainland Chinese since I'm 'Americanized', but I guess hard to break other countries' stereotypes about Chinese men. I can do some kung fu in the bedroom!

Dude, don't worry about any of this shit, LOL. I have a "Chino" friend who has been to Medellin at least 20 times by now, and solo. I'm positive that if he had any problems he would not be visiting so often.

[SlamCity7777]

i am with esteban, gregg is there any inner voice you have that tells you even if your thinking this not to write it for the world to see? seriously monkeys, thieves and working girls is the entire city. wow wow wow.

siam you applaud this from him? are all stereotypes now true? wtf fellas, some thoughts are better kept to yourself. calling people monkeys, that steal the minute u-turn your back. wow. your employees must love working for you. whats next, for you to do post a photo of yourself with a briefcase full of pesos why you paddle your maids with a cricket bat? or what ever you call that paddle. anyway thanks for this i'm swamped in bookings again. got to remember to send you a holiday card.

hey man, (atbbrocs) you good peeps so please don't take this as a flame battler starter. also i do not know agreg or have ever stayed at the mansion or even spoken to the man (i did pm him a few years back about groceries for some poor folks in the barios) so i'm not his homie or anything like that. we just happen to have formed the same opinion on doing things ie running a business in colombia. he's been down here for years so he might have some hard fought and well earned experience. i'm just telling you how it is from my own personal experiences, observations, and from some very good friends of mine who work and run assorted business down here.

do you run a business down in colombia? if so what type of business (yes it matters what time of shop you running)? thoughts on working, running shop, ect in colombia ie: medellin?

[RiceRocket99]

What do you mean by "In El Centro, locals do to Asians somethings they do not do to gringos, though subconsciously perhaps." Please elaborate. So being a chino, I'll be looked upon as a second class tourist fellow compared to the gringos in MDE? I don't look or dress like a mainland Chinese since I'm 'Americanized', but I guess hard to break other countries' stereotypes about Chinese men. I can do some kung fu in the bedroom!

Hi Slam, amigo.

Chinese, Japanese and Koreans are less darker than the caucasian race in North America in general.

Local rateros may "subconsciously" choose victims based on their perceived racial hierarchy, rather than whether or not the victims stick out.

The society in Colombia holds that caucasians are at upper level in the social hierarchy, and chinos are at the lower level.

It is psychologically easier to attack chinos.

But Poblado and Mayorista will be OK. In El Centro, locals do to Asians somethings they do not do to gringos, though subconsciously perhaps.

BTW, I totally agree with your assessment of business practice in Colombia.

Take care, amigo!

[SlamCity7777]

Hahahah. Easy Professor!

All that "racial hierarchy" junk got to go. You making a mountain out of a mole hill. Thieves are all about the easiest target. White, Black, Asian, Indian, Ect. If you look like an easy target you going to get tested. If you act shook you going to get taken. Walk with your head up, shoulder back, look around (be aware of your environment) , but don't be a hard case or tough guy. Don't stare but don't look away.

BTW: Thanks for the agreement about business practices in Colombia.

Hi Slam, amigo.

Chinese, Japanese and Koreans are less darker than the caucasian race in North America in general.

Local rateros may "subconsciously" choose victims based on their perceived racial hierarchy, rather than whether or not the victims stick out.

The society in Colombia holds that caucasians are at upper level in the social hierarchy, and chinos are at the lower level.

It is psychologically easier to attack chinos.

But Poblado and Mayorista will be OK. In El Centro, locals do to Asians somethings they do not do to gringos, though subconsciously perhaps.

BTW, I totally agree with your assessment of business practice in Colombia.

Take care, amigo!

[Bbrocs]

All fuckin monkeys? Look who is talking: the drunk who fucks up his own business by running his mouth, insulting women and throwing young girls down stairways. Look in the mirror, my friend.

I am with Esteban, Gregg is there any inner voice you have that tells you even if your thinking this not to write it for the world to see? Seriously monkeys, thieves and working girls is the entire city. Wow wow wow.

Siam you applaud this from him? Are all stereotypes now true? WTF fellas, some thoughts are better kept to yourself. Calling people monkeys, that steal the minute U-turn your back. Wow. Your employees must love working for you. Whats next, for you to do post a photo of yourself with a briefcase full of pesos why you paddle your maids with a cricket bat? Or what ever you call that paddle. Anyway thanks for this I'm swamped in bookings again. Got to remember to send you a holiday card.

[Member #4394]

Hi Slam, amigo.

Chinese, Japanese and Koreans are less darker than the caucasian race in North America in general.

Local rateros may "subconsciously" choose victims based on their perceived racial hierarchy, rather than whether or not the victims stick out.

The society in Colombia holds that caucasians are at upper level in the social hierarchy, and chinos are at the lower level.

It is psychologically easier to attack chinos.

But Poblado and Mayorista will be OK. In El Centro, locals do to Asians somethings they do not do to gringos, though subconsciously perhaps.

BTW, I totally agree with your assessment of business practice in Colombia.

Take care, amigo!

What up? If you wondering if it's cool and safe for a chinito, yes. You've been to El Salvador and central america is like south america 10 years ago in terms of violence. Also being dark featured you will not stick out as a 6-5 gringo with blue eyes and blond hair. Have fun and report back

[EstebanH]

The first time I heard the word "prepago" was on the radio in Medellin. I'm thinking, do they advertise prostitution on the radio jajajja!

"mingle with the locals" to me there all fucken monkeys "monos" no thanks, only if I must though work.

They will steal anything that they can get a hold off when your not looking, a country of prostitute's, which is good in a way.

A. G.

All fuckingmonkeys? Look who is talking: the drunk who fucks up his own business by running his mouth, insulting women and throwing girls down stairways. Look in the mirror, my friend.

[RiceRocket99]

Thanks for the welcome. I'm now reading up the May reports. Damn, this forum is crazy active, so I feel pretty good about hitting up MDE. I can't wait! It's just funny how I keep reading about lazy newbies asking silly questions when they can spend a good half hr to RTFF, but you guys still are cool enough to respond to them. Even I feel like an expert on MDE by reading the forum the past 2 days (spent probably 6 hrs since I take my time digesting the good reports).

BTW, the reason I want to go to MDE is because I grew up in Panama and I go back to that second home about once a year and I enjoy the abundance of Colombians there. They're everywhere in PC from Casinos to Massage Parlors to Strip clubs to Free Lance night clubs. And most are very hot looking, to the dismay of their fellow Panamanian counterparts. But it's become a tourist trap with ridiculous prices and services are not up to par even thought they are hot as fuck. They hail from all over Colombia, but most are from Cali and Medellin with Baranquilla and Bogota mixed in as well.

So having gone to Panama for many years (free place to stay, car to drive, free food to eat) , and almost always doing Colombians, this time I want to go straight to the source and actually see Colombia. Will definitely report back and IMHO, the Salvadorans provide the best service without breaking the bank. But looks wise, Paisas take the throne hands down.

What up? If you wondering if it's cool and safe for a chinito, yes. You've been to El Salvador and central america is like south america 10 years ago in terms of violence. Also being dark featured you will not stick out as a 6-5 gringo with blue eyes and blond hair. Have fun and report back

[SlamCity7777]

The first time I heard the word "prepago" was on the radio in Medellin. I'm thinking, do they advertise prostitution on the radio jajajja!

"mingle with the locals" to me there all fucken monkeys "monos" no thanks, only if I must though work.

They will steal anything that they can get a hold off when your not looking, a country of prostitute's, which is good in a way.

A. G.

Clap Clap Clap! Here here! I could not agree with you more! It's a wonder that you were able to start your hotel with such success when dealing with these Groceros and Ladrones!

I have friends who live here and have opened up businesses and the over all impression is that Colombians are liars, thieves, and cowards! They try to alter deals at the last min, try to impose hidden fees, and over all have no honor when it comes to business because they live in fear. It is a fear of everything! They think that the only way to be successful is to stand on the backs of everybody and anybody else. They are the perfect example of Crabs in a barrel.

Their stupidity, lack of imagination and lack on common sense is shocking. For example the cashier at a Fried Chicken joint told me "The combo is cheaper / better deal" and I told her I didn't want fries and a drink only the Chicken. It was a 5 min episode of talking to a wall! Another time at Exito there was a sale going on; Buy 3 tee shirts and get a 4th free. Well the idiot Colombian dude had 3 tee shirts and a womans blouse or some shit and wanted that for free! The cashier told him that he couldn't have the blouse for free for obvious reasons. Well the idiot pointed out that the blouse was on sale too (but not part of that promotion) and so the fool tied up the line for 30 min trying to get the blouse!

The same goes for actual business transactions too. Liars, Cowards, and Thieves!

[SlamCity7777]

I discovered ISG a few months ago on my first trip to El Salvador and it helped me a lot. It also gave me invaluable info on Tijuana as well. Now, I'm off to Medellin! I've written extensive reports on my trips and I plan to do the same as I depart to MDE on 8/5 to 8/10. I'm just digesting the March reports since I started reading from January of this year since last night and booked my flight couple hours ago. I'm a 30 something Chinese American that can speak Spanish, just wondering, any Asian bros out in MDE? Haha. If not, I enjoy being the Chino Cochino.

What up? If you wondering if it's cool and safe for a chinito, yes. You've been to El Salvador and central america is like south america 10 years ago in terms of violence. Also being dark featured you will not stick out as a 6-5 gringo with blue eyes and blond hair. Have fun and report back

[Aussie Greg]

The first time I heard the word "prepago" was on the radio in Medellin. I'm thinking, do they advertise prostitution on the radio jajajja!

"mingle with the locals" to me there all fucken monkeys "monos" no thanks, only if I must though work.

They will steal anything that they can get a hold off when your not looking, a country of prostitute's, which is good in a way.

A. G.

Maybe you should mingle more with locals, to learn THE OTHER meaning.

[Menteng]

You are all wrong.

A. G.

Maybe you should mingle more with locals, to learn THE OTHER meaning.