Medellin Reports

[Mr Enternational]

Medellin is not the world's number 1 sex tourism destination. Thailand is much bigger a destination. I don't think it is even in the top 5.

You do not need to know where to go in Thailand. You simply show up and you are in the middle of everything.

[Zeos1]

That makes sense to me. After all if you're a WG why settle for $60 from sex when you can get $6,000 from robbery? It's just interesting that not one of those victims to my knowledge has put their story on the internet. I would expect to seek in capital letters all over this forum and the rest of the internet: AVOID COLOMBIAN WOMEN EXCEPT IN A BROTHEL. You can assume, hopefully, that the brothel (or strip club, massage clinic or whatever they choose to call it) manager won't want to destroy his business with a drugged and robbed incident. But anywhere else, who knows? Are you going to stop consuming liquids during your entire visit?

Mongers are not ready to tell the world that they are mongers. So you won't find these stories on the internet very often. Guys I know that got scoped barely will admit it to their best friends let alone wife, family, kids back home, etc.

The casas, and clubs, generally would be safer. I know the bars tend to watch out for their customers as well. They will open drinks in front of you so you know it wasn't tampered with, and try to protect their clients in general.

So with consuming liquids. Open the bottle yourself then you know if it was properly sealed. Don't let anyone bring you an open drink. It is very hard to get scoped if you don't ingest it in a drink. Take your drink with you if you go to the bathroom. Or get the bartender to put it in a safe place for you until you get back.

And if you want to risk a date on Tinder or something make sure you get a picture of the ID and the woman and send them to a friend. Adds a bit of disincentive if a chica may be thinking of something harmful to you. See the chica in a place that takes pictures and verifies the cedula of anyone with you. These don't guarantee safety, but go a long ways.

[HarryDubois]

Every person I know of that has been scoped it was by working girls. But, being that all of those people are mongers that also is not surprising. We were also told by a police captain in Medellin that this is very common with working girls in Parque Lleras, for example.
Anyway, I read your initial post to suggest that working girls are less likely to be involved in scoping. I don't think that is a safe assumption, as they are more likely to be in a position to drug clients than anyone else.

That makes sense to me. After all if you're a WG why settle for $60 from sex when you can get $6,000 from robbery? It's just interesting that not one of those victims to my knowledge has put their story on the internet. I would expect to seek in capital letters all over this forum and the rest of the internet: AVOID COLOMBIAN WOMEN EXCEPT IN A BROTHEL. You can assume, hopefully, that the brothel (or strip club, massage clinic or whatever they choose to call it) manager won't want to destroy his business with a drugged and robbed incident. But anywhere else, who knows? Are you going to stop consuming liquids during your entire visit?

[MoonShot]

Considering that Medellin is the world's number 1 sex tourism destination (based on the number of posts on this site) and so much of the sex between gringos and Paisas is pay for play, which is legal, I would have thought that the drugging and robbery victims would be 90% mongers.

I was surprised however that so far (and I've just started researching this) every single first hand account of drugging and robbing involves a non-pro. Someone meets a young woman usually on tinder but maybe at a bar, no payment is requested, they head to his place for some privacy and suddenly it's two days later and everything is gone.

Here's my theory however if someone can prove me wrong please do.

Unless you're Brad Pitt a Medellin nonpro is not going to have sex with you for free on the first date. If she's agreeing to go to bed with you she wants money. If she's a WG so you agree on a price and it's all good. If she's not a WG then she's still going to get paid. She's going to rob you.

Medellin is not the world's number 1 sex tourism destination. Thailand is much bigger a destination. I don't think it is even in the top 5. The number of posts on this site only indicates that guys are more likely to post about Medellin on this website and not that it is the world's biggest sex tourism destination.

[Zeos1]

Considering that Medellin is the world's number 1 sex tourism destination (based on the number of posts on this site) and so much of the sex between gringos and Paisas is pay for play, which is legal, I would have thought that the drugging and robbery victims would be 90% mongers.

I was surprised however that so far (and I've just started researching this) every single first hand account of drugging and robbing involves a non-pro. Someone meets a young woman usually on tinder but maybe at a bar, no payment is requested, they head to his place for some privacy and suddenly it's two days later and everything is gone.

Here's my theory however if someone can prove me wrong please do.

Unless you're Brad Pitt a Medellin nonpro is not going to have sex with you for free on the first date. If she's agreeing to go to bed with you she wants money. If she's a WG so you agree on a price and it's all good. If she's not a WG then she's still going to get paid. She's going to rob you.

It was several years ago when I read somewhere on a Colombian site about the 50 to 100,000 scopolamine poisonings per year in Colombia. So certainly many, or most, would be Colombian. Every person I know of that has been scoped it was by working girls. But, being that all of those people are mongers that also is not surprising. We were also told by a police captain in Medellin that this is very common with working girls in Parque Lleras, for example. Someone else on this site also mentioned that girls had told him that they were given a standing offer, that if they would do the scoping then the gang would give them a piece of the profit, so basically they could scope someone if the opportunity arose, or perhaps if they were pissed at that client. They carried the drug, and all they needed to do was slip it in a drink, call these guys, leave the door open, and leave.

Anyway, I read your initial post to suggest that working girls are less likely to be involved in scoping. I don't think that is a safe assumption, as they are more likely to be in a position to drug clients than anyone else.

[HarryDubois]

The organized gangs that do this pose as prostitutes or not. Whatever suits the situation. But when there are standing offers to working girls to scope their clients I would say that of the thousands of cases most involve working girls. That is where the opportunity is.

Considering that Medellin is the world's number 1 sex tourism destination (based on the number of posts on this site) and so much of the sex between gringos and Paisas is pay for play, which is legal, I would have thought that the drugging and robbery victims would be 90% mongers.

I was surprised however that so far (and I've just started researching this) every single first hand account of drugging and robbing involves a non-pro. Someone meets a young woman usually on tinder but maybe at a bar, no payment is requested, they head to his place for some privacy and suddenly it's two days later and everything is gone.

Here's my theory however if someone can prove me wrong please do.

Unless you're Brad Pitt a Medellin nonpro is not going to have sex with you for free on the first date. If she's agreeing to go to bed with you she wants money. If she's a WG so you agree on a price and it's all good. If she's not a WG then she's still going to get paid. She's going to rob you.

[JustTK]

What is a casa girl's typical work hours like? 6 days a week, 4 pm-12 pm sound right to anyone? Casas must have a standard, otherwise they can't rely on a girl to show up.

Its usually around 9/10 am to 6/7 pm. Might be 5/6/7 days per week.

[Bonhead]

Gents. Anyone know of a good place to watch the Super Bowl? Preferably with eye candy and hopefully some volume up on the game too.

Please let me know!

[Mongo1]

Some casa's have only staffed girls and some have staffed and independents that will rent space there. Some Casas are only space that independents rent with no management. If you have a certain girl that you would like to session with you it would be wise to make an appointment with the casa or girl beforehand. Hours would depend on the Casa and girls typical hours could be all over the place, part time, full time, independent.

What is a casa girl's typical work hours like? 6 days a week, 4 pm-12 pm sound right to anyone? Casas must have a standard, otherwise they can't rely on a girl to show up.

[Zeos1]

One thing which I have noticed is that every single first hand (not something heard from someone, etc) account of scopolamine attacks which I have been able to find online.

http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...orts&p=2762340#post2762340.

https://youtu.be/4D8CHyaJTfg

https://youtu.be/6x7u6JSXv_w

https://youtu.be/SwQWdbeFW40

Involves a non-pro. There is never any discussion about paying for the date. The girl is allegedly just interested in a normal date / hook up (even if he is 54 and she is 28!) and then everything goes black for the victim and when he regains consciousness all his money is gone.

Is it fair to assume that a WGs, whether met on the street, Tinder, Facebook, seeking or whatever, are very very unlikely to drug you? Could this be because she has a job, she doesn't want to get arrested or get a bad reputation online and therefore she doesn't want to get involved in the drugging and robbing business?

The organized gangs that do this pose as prostitutes or not. Whatever suits the situation. But when there are standing offers to working girls to scope their clients I would say that of the thousands of cases most involve working girls. That is where the opportunity is.

Working girls are contacted and told that if they can scope a customer and then call the number and let the gang in the door they will get a much larger payoff than just what they have been paid. Even if only a small percentage of working girls become part of this it is a huge risk factor for potential customers. And this is happening.

[Tasss]

What is a casa girl's typical work hours like? 6 days a week, 4 pm-12 pm sound right to anyone? Casas must have a standard, otherwise they can't rely on a girl to show up.

[Lugnut]

One thing which I have noticed is that every single first hand (not something heard from someone, etc) account of scopolamine attacks which I have been able to find online.

Involves a non-pro. There is never any discussion about paying for the date. The girl is allegedly just interested in a normal date / hook up (even if he is 54 and she is 28!) and then everything goes black for the victim and when he regains consciousness all his money is gone.

Is it fair to assume that a WGs, whether met on the street, Tinder, Facebook, seeking or whatever, are very very unlikely to drug you? Could this be because she has a job, she doesn't want to get arrested or get a bad reputation online and therefore she doesn't want to get involved in the drugging and robbing business?

The scenario you describe is indeed how it happened to me. But all of those girls you listed are pros. Including the girls that go on dates and drug and rob people; they are professional robbers.

[Anthony2023]

The person that your messaging may be a dude that works for organized crime or a casa.

One time I thought I was messaging a tall Vennie and she had all the goodies that I was looking for on Milerotico. I invite her to my AirBnB a block from Parque Lleras, she shows up and I asked her about some of the things on the ad and and messaged stuff she had a blank look and did not understand what I was asking about. (BTW I do speak Spanish). At that point I figured out that she must be working for an agency or something like that. We get down to business and I really did enjoy my session with her. So afterwards we were chatting at the table and I asked her for her WhatsApp phone number and she gave it to me. Later on in the evening I started getting strange messages on my WhatsApp from her. A picture of an elderly man (some family resemblance to the girl). Then a picture of a man walking up to the Pearly Gates. Well that really freaked me out and I deleted her number pretty quick.

I stick with the Independents now and one thing that I do to help me filter out the ads is run the phone number on the Milerotico search and if more than 1 girl shows up in the ads I move on. Another thing that I'll do is Google the phone number without the Country code and sometimes you can find local reviews on them.

I found that out when I went to a casa in laurales late at night. Girl had no clue what we had agreed on prior to meeting, I messaged the number calling them out on their lie and walked out and my night turned out to be better because I picked up a really hot brick house vennie at a club in lleras. A easier way to find out if a girl is a independent or agency girl is by messaging several and if you get the same pretty much word for word generic message from several of them than you'll know which ones are agency, don't even bother asking them questions because its somebody who is replying back for all the agency girls.

[Mongo1]

It depends on the AirBnB, The last one I had the guest limit was 6, ready for that 5 some.

I stayed at a airbnb on my recent trip. Located above the city in las palmas with a breathtaking view of medellin, many have said its the best view of the city on airbnb and I can't see any other property that's better located for this. It was a really nice high rise on the 16th floor out of 17 and security was located at the front gate. Visitors have to have cedula and they take a picture of each visitor thru a security camera. Also was only a 5-10 min ride to provenza. I believe la isla was only walking distance but I didn't have time to visit, I'm sure it would be very convenient to take isla girls back to this place. Roughly around 130 usd a night so not too bad. The only downside was only 1 guest is allowed at one time, so if you're looking to do trios I suggest someplace else other than airbnbs because most won't allow more than 1 guest at a time.

[Knowledge]

Nothing personal but I think what you suggested is a foolish assumption.

One thing which I have noticed is that every single first hand (not something heard from someone, etc) account of scopolamine attacks which I have been able to find online.

http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...orts&p=2762340#post2762340.

https://youtu.be/4D8CHyaJTfg

https://youtu.be/6x7u6JSXv_w

https://youtu.be/SwQWdbeFW40

Involves a non-pro. There is never any discussion about paying for the date. The girl is allegedly just interested in a normal date / hook up (even if he is 54 and she is 28!) and then everything goes black for the victim and when he regains consciousness all his money is gone.

Is it fair to assume that a WGs, whether met on the street, Tinder, Facebook, seeking or whatever, are very very unlikely to drug you? Could this be because she has a job, she doesn't want to get arrested or get a bad reputation online and therefore she doesn't want to get involved in the drugging and robbing business?