Medellin Reports

[Col Bog 1]

Mmmm,

2. Thanks for the pat on my back that the pictures were of a professional nature but as I stated in my post, the pictures included were that of a Colombiana. Did I have to say EXACTLY how and where I found her and how many times I banged her etc....? And what the heck Admin, are you new to the monitoring of the board? You've never seen any other of my posts or pictures? Don't you know that I go to great pains to post only the best line of photos I take. Yes I, me, myself did take these pictures. I'd hardly say that the Nikon D50 I used is professonal standard (rather lower grade in the pro world). I just make sure the subjects I photograph are worth photographing.

Whatever, (no cheers in this case)

Cubanut

Hi Cubanut.

I can read that you're mad.

I just wanted to tell you that I admire your pictures and that they are very good to my humble opinion.

I would only disagree on one point :

You say that you you use a Nikon D50 and you let think that your camera (quite a good one on my book) produces great pictures.

It's not the camera that produces the pictures but the eye of the photographer.

Take care, you're a great photographer.

[Phunluv]

Another interesting thread but why does everything devolve into sniping and flame wars nowadays?

As for this idea of marrying or dating non-pros, just keep in mind there's a large gray area in Colombia regarding sex for money. First of all, practically every successful Colombian male has a mistress on the side. I'm sure money is part of that equation. Then you have the phenomena of "amigos con derechos". Friends with benefits. Not to mention the "grillas" and "prepagas" All of them involve sex/companionship with some level of financial support or maybe just gifts.

And girls move in and out of these arrangements as their life and financial circumstances change. One girl I met at Lejano Oriente claimed she used to work at a bank making 4 million COP a month until she got laid off/fired.

Also, I suspect there's quite a bit more hanky-panky and screwing around amongst the general population in Colombia than in the states. It would help explain why there's so many beautiful women. It can't just be the altitude and the climate.

And that brings up the issue how important is fidelity to you? Can you handle the fact that your Colombian girlfriend/fiance/wife is likely screwing other men when you're not around?

I've reached a point in my life where it wouldn't bother me that much but I'd bet many guys would freak out. If you can't mentally handle the gray areas and the uncertainties, then Colombia is not for you. Stick with what you know in the states.

[Hoyaboy]

I am going to Colombia at the end of the month.

Does anyone know a girl that deep throats?

[Davidb3069]

Sorry to those wanting to read about issues of Medillin. I'm guilty of partially hijacking this forum. There is no value in further discussing this issue in this forum.

[Davidb3069]

You're right. It is the Colombia forum, and I am discussing Colombianas.

Why have you been discussing Ecuador in the Colombia forum?

I don't hijack discussions in the Colombian forums with talk of Ecuador. I make a quick suggestion every once in a great while to take a trip here to try something different and I drop it.

David

[Davidb3069]

While I didn't agree with some other comments by David, I certainly agree with everything David says here. For some reason, a lot of Gringos leave their common sense at the airport in Miami. I like Colombianas, but I don't put them on a pedestal. In Colombia, you need a healthy dose of skepticism. Colombianas are experts at telling guys what they want to hear, and some are good actresses. Determining the sincerity of Colombianas isn't that difficult, however.

Plain and simple, you should be looking for Colombianas that aren't looking for Gringos.

Non-prostitutes are a "no pain, no gain" situation in Colombia. Most Gringos are lazy and naive. Most Gringos date Colombianas they meet from the dating sites, marriage agencies, dance clubs known to be popular with Gringos, poolside at luxury hotels, etc. I hate to shatter the egos of some Gringos, but most of those Colombianas are prepagos.

I highly recommend you assume that such women are prepagos. Just because they don't charge you, doesn't mean they don't charge other guys.

I am not saying not to date such women. They can be a lot of fun. However, don't be naive. Recognize the type of woman that you are dating with both eyes wide open.

If you truly want a serious relationship with a Colombiana, then look for a Colombiana that isn't looking for Gringos. Be the fisherman, not the fish.

Just out of curiosity, how's your luck going with a non-pro? I'm assuming you won't be traveling back to Colombia in the future because the prospects in Florida are so overwelming that there's no need.

You honestly sound like you have no or very little experience in Colombia. It sounds like you're repeating things people have told you. If that is the case, you have nothing to add to a discussion such as this because you have no experience.

David

[Davidb3069]

Obviously you don't live in Florida. There are plenty of Latinas, including Colombianas, in Florida that are not destitute. Many have citizenship or legal status. Believe it or not, there are Colombianas from wealthy families in Florida.

I'm not the one with the monger mentality. It is unfortunate that some Gringos have no self-confidence. That lack of self-confidence is the hallmark of the monger mentality.

I am from Florida, born and raised, and my best friend is latino. I have had many friends (male and female) over the years that are latino (from many countries) and it's just not the same to me. Americanized "tang" as someone put it is spoiled "tang". If you want legalized Colombians and the pickings are so great, why not stay in Florida? What's the need to go to Colombia or discuss Colombia travels for the purpose of sex?

David

[Davidb3069]

Ricker,

I'm not talking about importing. I am talking about Colombianas that already are citizens or have legal status in the U. S.

I know many Gringos that complain that they were "burned" by a Colombiana that they imported from Colombia. In most cases, those Gringos refuse to acknowledge the truth. The truth is that they don't speak Spanish, they impulsively married a Colombiana after a very short time period and they married a Colombiana that was a prostitute or prepago.

As far as I'm concerned, a nationalized or legalized Colombiana in the US is no better than any other chick in the US. They might be prettier but they are quickly transformed into the US chicks that I can't stand.

Anyone hoping to get lucky bringing any foreigner (latina, asian, etc.) back to the US to be the perfect wife is fighting an uphill battle. They will change rapidly and become Americanized. As someone else said, keep them in their home country.

Anyone that doesn't speak Spanish well enough to grow a relationship is asking for trouble. If Communication is a key to marriage, you're already behind in the game from the start.

Being impulsive in marriage is certainly not a attribute unique to marrying Colombians. Plenty of Americans marrying Americans fall into the same category. This is certainly nothing unique to this situation.

Many prepagos or hookers turn out to be good wives if they haven't embraced the lifestyle. I've seen many turn out to be good catches. The key to the whole thing is how long they've done it and why they were doing it. Turning tricks to feed your kids but getting the heck out of the work when times improve doesn't make someone bad.

David

[Davidb3069]

David, you made my point better than I ever could. If you haven't noticed, some here are interested in dating non-prostitutes. They need to care what others think. Your attitude explains your poor results with non-prostitutes and your jaded perspective.

I'd say it's just the opposite. What people think of me is none of my business. It's a healthy attitude. It means I have self-esteem and don't need the approval of others to feel better about myself.

I didn't have a lack of luck with non-pros. I simply didn't care to put in the effort to win them over. If I wanted to put in that effort, I'd move back to the states (Yes, I am from Florida, born and raised). Honestly, I find non-working girls about as exciting as watching paint dry. About the same with American girls.

Catch a working girl before she's been enveloped by the life and it's possible to still find some keepers. I married mine.

David

[Rippp]

Obviously you don't live in Florida. There are plenty of Latinas, including Colombianas, in Florida that are not destitute. Many have citizenship or legal status. Believe it or not, there are Colombianas from wealthy families in Florida.

I'm not the one with the monger mentality. It is unfortunate that some Gringos have no self-confidence. That lack of self-confidence is the hallmark of the monger mentality.

The point is not about getting desperate, vulnerable tang who are looking for a green card and a "life" with the media romanticzed gringo, which main stream media has put on a pedestal for as long as these chicas have been alive. Imagine that. This lifetime brainwashing, if you will, has given the chicas some pretty wacked, Hollywood imagery of the gringo. I have live in S. FL and sure, it's a hopping "pond", as you so eloquently put but let's be honest here, 99% of the "wide open" florida tang, fall into the FOB category, with almost certain prepago/puta baggage. 2nd gen "normal" Cubana tang, you say? Ok, but if that's your thing, then ask yourself why you like foreign, less jaded, tang in the first place. It's about getting the quote, "normal" chica, without the economic disparty equation, without any expectations from either party. Painfully obvious, this is what you are referring to regarding Florida tang. It's obvious you have quite the romanticed view, read naive, view of these chicas and if you're gonna believe what these few "legal", "not destitute" chicas tell you, the more power to you bro. These chicas lie their ass off, it's an inherent and necessary trait in their situtation, who can blame them. So the moral of this story is that finding that "normal" chica without the puta past is quite elusive, if not an entire pipe dream. Sure, hell, you might be one of those guys that constantly fall for these chicas and completely disregard any past puta and all the other baggage. Read. War brides throughout history. Not at all dissimilar.

[Ricker]

While I didn't agree with some other comments by David, I certainly agree with everything David says here. For some reason, a lot of Gringos leave their common sense at the airport in Miami. I like Colombianas, but I don't put them on a pedestal. In Colombia, you need a healthy dose of skepticism. Colombianas are experts at telling guys what they want to hear, and some are good actresses. Determining the sincerity of Colombianas isn't that difficult, however.

Plain and simple, you should be looking for Colombianas that aren't looking for Gringos.

Non-prostitutes are a "no pain, no gain" situation in Colombia. Most Gringos are lazy and naive. Most Gringos date Colombianas they meet from the dating sites, marriage agencies, dance clubs known to be popular with Gringos, poolside at luxury hotels, etc. I hate to shatter the egos of some Gringos, but most of those Colombianas are prepagos.

I highly recommend you assume that such women are prepagos. Just because they don't charge you, doesn't mean they don't charge other guys.

I am not saying not to date such women. They can be a lot of fun. However, don't be naive. Recognize the type of woman that you are dating with both eyes wide open.

If you truly want a serious relationship with a Colombiana, then look for a Colombiana that isn't looking for Gringos. Be the fisherman, not the fish.

Good advice amigo!

Nothing like dating chicas who collect their monthly Western Union money from their other boyfriends :)

[Ricker]

Ricker,

I'm not talking about importing. I am talking about Colombianas that already are citizens or have legal status in the U. S.

I know many Gringos that complain that they were "burned" by a Colombiana that they imported from Colombia. In most cases, those Gringos refuse to acknowledge the truth. The truth is that they don't speak Spanish, they impulsively married a Colombiana after a very short time period and they married a Colombiana that was a prostitute or prepago.

I agree with you amigo. I've seen these guys burned too.

I think the big factors being the lack of communication ability and relative short time knowing eachother.

To be honest though, most of the disasters I've seen have been with the non-pro type chica.

Couple guys I know met chicas on the internet. Neither guy speaks spanish.

They go to Colombia, meet their girls. Visit a few more times.

Get a fiancee visa, get married.

Six months to a year later ... Disaster.

I remember sitting next to one guy's new esposa on a flight to Cali.

By chance, we were both heading back to Cali for a visit. My buddy had to stay behind for work in the US.

All she did was ***** ***** *****. What happened to the sweetheart in her ??
And my friend, she was a regular chica ... an architect.

Speaking of Colombianas that are already citizens or legal in the US.

Well normally it's because they come from families with money.

I personally avoid them, they're usually the most spoiled of all.

My buddy dates one of them in Miami. What a pain in the butt she is.

I even dated a Colombiana from a well to do family in Miami at one time.

She was really beautiful, I was weak and stupid at the time :)

Oh my God what a spoiled little princess brat, and how she treated regular working people like crap.

Never again for me, whether they live in US or Colombia, I avoid the rich, spoiled brats.

I know that I'm generalizing again.

Just my observations from a lot of experience.

[DoloresThomas]

Does anyone know any of the "**************" girls?

I'm talking about Milkymaria, Aria Valentino, Paris Milan, Chloe Veria, Tatiana La Vega and many more.

Some of them with their own websites and others in the different sites under the first address. Chloe, for sure, is from Medellin. Most of the others, I believe, are also paisas. A prosperous porn industry. Maybe some of us could fulfill the fantasy of actually fucking a pornstar. Oyeloca and pacinosadventures fans will know that the mansion and VIP have held some of these cuties (Juana, Jazmin) among their cast. But the first ladys are more my type - thick, busty, and downright wild.

Thanks beforehand for any info.

[Client 9]

Hmmmmm. I have a few rules I follow for dating these latinas.

The most important one. Keep them in their native country.

Boy do they change when they hit the US. I know I'm generalizing, but I've seen it many times with friends of mine.

Ricker,

I'm not talking about importing. I am talking about Colombianas that already are citizens or have legal status in the U. S.

I know many Gringos that complain that they were "burned" by a Colombiana that they imported from Colombia. In most cases, those Gringos refuse to acknowledge the truth. The truth is that they don't speak Spanish, they impulsively married a Colombiana after a very short time period and they married a Colombiana that was a prostitute or prepago.

[Client 9]

Destitute, Fresh off the barco (FOB) Florida tang is a weak argument bro.

Reality is gonna bite you in the ass.

Let's just say, you have the classic gringo monger mentality.

Obviously you don't live in Florida. There are plenty of Latinas, including Colombianas, in Florida that are not destitute. Many have citizenship or legal status. Believe it or not, there are Colombianas from wealthy families in Florida.

I'm not the one with the monger mentality. It is unfortunate that some Gringos have no self-confidence. That lack of self-confidence is the hallmark of the monger mentality.