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Originally Posted by MrEnternational
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Sure a few lazy hookers are depending on you, but the other 99.999999% of the population thinks of you as a gnat on a dog's dick and could give 2 fucks. Just another hard-up clueless foreign guy here for drugs and prostitutes.
Hey! . Cry cry cry. And I thought we were friends. :(
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Originally Posted by Knowledge
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I've been hearing these reports for 15 years. They spike up from time to time but it's been consistent. In an earlier post I described the security situation here back in the 90's. I don't doubt the drugging and robberies were happening then too. There were fewer foreigners then and with all the other horrific stuff happening I did not get the attention it does now. I wonder if I would be at more risk if I were less of a Centro rat.
Back in December 2017 3 foreigners were killed in Medellin in something like 48 hours. 1 American was allegedly drugged by a girl at his apartment near Parque Poblado. She opened the door for her boyfriend. The gringo was still alert enough to put up a fight, and was stabbed and killed. The killer was caught not long after. The girl was found cowering in the apartment.
The second, a Mexican national was found dead, stuffed in a large suitcase along Calle 10. Apparently he was from a Mexican cartel and whatever business he was engaged in went wrong.
The final one, 2 Cuban nationals working in Medellin were found drugged along Autopista Sur south of Medellin. One died from the drugs, the other was hospitalized and recovered.
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Originally Posted by MoonShot
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All this is sound advice to stay safe. I have visited Medellin twice and I have followed these basic guidelines. I have not run into any problems but I am an experienced monger in other countries and have always been careful and aware of my surroundings. One thing that helps me is that I have always in big cities in America and in big cities like Baltimore, New York City, Chicago, and the like, you just are careful and not very trusting of people. Ha ha ha. I mention that because people in small towns and the smaller cities tend to be more trusting and nice and unfortunately, they are more likely to be taken advantage of in places like Medellin.
I disagree with your final assumption. People in small towns are more trusting, of their neighbors. However, the big city is where all the bad stuff happens, so they tend to be distrustful of strangers.
Now, they might be easier to trick or scam, bit not many of them are going to show up in Medellin believing everyone is their friend.
Until I was 18 I was rarely more than a 10 minute walk away from fresh cowshit.
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Originally Posted by Knowledge
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It will heavily depend on what the girl's boyfriend or husband allows.
Lot's of girls here as you mention have boyfriends or husbands that know exactly what they are doing seeing clients and are partaking in the monies made.
I have two in my stable just like this, and the boyfriends / husbands know exactly what is going on, and they are "kinda okay " with it, not sure how to articulate it, but they just tolerate it, as it helps pay the bills.
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I've been hearing these reports for 15 years. They spike up from time to time but it's been consistent. In an earlier post I described the security situation here back in the 90's. I don't doubt the drugging and robberies were happening then too. There were fewer foreigners then and with all the other horrific stuff happening I did not get the attention it does now. I wonder if I would be at more risk if I were less of a Centro rat.
Originally Posted by Dwc14
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Not trolling anyone. I lived part-time and later full-time in Medellin for 9 years and hung out with dozens of locals. The expression, "There but for the grace of god, go I," fully applies. Everything in my product suggestion / collection of safety protocols is the result of thinking through now, in full view of the details of these appalling crimes, how one could conceivably defend against them. I am certainly not implying that I would have implemented these protocols during my time in Medellin, absent the knowledge only now coming to light of the modus operandi of these criminals.
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Originally Posted by MrEnternational
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Exactly. Why do mongers keep thinking they are somebody? People in this hobby get really inflated egos. You are in a very small circle of people in the grand scheme of things and not propping economies up as many assume. They do not need your kind around there. You are not the first class golden goose that you think you are; you are simply being tolerated. Sure a few lazy hookers are depending on you, but the other 99.999999% of the population thinks of you as a gnat on a dog's dick and could give 2 fucks. Just another hard-up clueless foreign guy here for drugs and prostitutes.
Best post I have read in a long time. More mongers need to read this and check their attitude.
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Sound Advice
Originally Posted by VoodooJones
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I know drugging is more common in Medellin, but when I visited Bogota, I always had the women come to my apartment / hotel. The ones I met off Seeking, I would meet them at a restaurant within walking distance and never revealed where I was staying until we got there. If they were catfishing me, it would give me an opportunity to walk away.
The apartment or hotel had 24/7 security and required IDs are all visitors. I also never left my drinks unattended and ordered all transportation myself. I recommend Uber because if something goes wrong, at least they have the driver's personal info. A friend of a friend was robbed in Bogota once by getting into a taxi he hailed off the street and the driver took him somewhere where two other men got into the car.
I don't think what I did in Bogota was overly-cautious. It was the basic advice I got here and what I would repeat in any city I visit alone.
All this is sound advice to stay safe. I have visited Medellin twice and I have followed these basic guidelines. I have not run into any problems but I am an experienced monger in other countries and have always been careful and aware of my surroundings. One thing that helps me is that I have always in big cities in America and in big cities like Baltimore, New York City, Chicago, and the like, you just are careful and not very trusting of people. Ha ha ha. I mention that because people in small towns and the smaller cities tend to be more trusting and nice and unfortunately, they are more likely to be taken advantage of in places like Medellin.
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It will heavily depend on what the girl's boyfriend or husband allows.
Originally Posted by Mtndew704
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Its going to heavily depend on whether or not the FB girl has a day job or does some other type of work/school.
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It is travel 101. Once we are liquored up it becomes an advanced course of study. With practice it becomes second nature.
Originally Posted by Combo
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All great guidelines that every hobbyists should emulate. While one can't 100% eliminate risk, you can make it pretty marginal w these common sense precautions.
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Originally Posted by MrEnternational
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I thought seeking's finest were supposed to be the bees knees? Even centro chicks have sense enough to change out of their hooker gear before leaving the strip.
Why would you expect a clueless daughter in a rich family to behave the same as a typical WG?
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Originally Posted by Knowledge
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This is true. It's been happening for years. It's getting more media attention recently because it's good clickbait. It reminds me of a couple of years ago when there was a flurry of reporting that tourists were turning up dead in the Dominican Republic. As it turned out the overall incidence was in line with other tourism hubs and had not spiked as the reports suggested.
That was said to be US government propaganda put out to discourage tourism because the Dominican government had started working more with the Chinese government.
Too many strange things about some of those stories that led me to call BS. For instance one story said that a couple was killed when their car was run off the road and into the ocean on their drive from Punta Cana to Santo Domingo airport. Well for that drive one would have to be driving west. The seaside is on the part of the highway going east. Also you can not see ANY water on the westerly drive from Punta Cana to the Santo Domingo airport. You can only see the water on the easterly drive from Santo Domingo city to the airport. Seemed to be only Americans that were dying from those stories that were put out.
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Originally Posted by VoodooJones
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I know drugging is more common in Medellin, but when I visited Bogota, I always had the women come to my apartment / hotel. The ones I met off Seeking, I would meet them at a restaurant within walking distance and never revealed where I was staying until we got there. If they were catfishing me, it would give me an opportunity to walk away.
The apartment or hotel had 24/7 security and required IDs are all visitors. I also never left my drinks unattended and ordered all transportation myself. I recommend Uber because if something goes wrong, at least they have the driver's personal info. A friend of a friend was robbed in Bogota once by getting into a taxi he hailed off the street and the driver took him somewhere where two other men got into the car.
I don't think what I did in Bogota was overly-cautious. It was the basic advice I got here and what I would repeat in any city I visit alone.
All great guidelines that every hobbyists should emulate. While one can't 100% eliminate risk, you can make it pretty marginal w these common sense precautions.
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Honest Response to an Honest Observation
Originally Posted by Knowledge
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I am not judging. This is an honest observation. This post strikes me as more plausible as trolling victims than a serious product pitch.
Not trolling anyone. I lived part-time and later full-time in Medellin for 9 years and hung out with dozens of locals. The expression, "There but for the grace of god, go I," fully applies. Everything in my product suggestion / collection of safety protocols is the result of thinking through now, in full view of the details of these appalling crimes, how one could conceivably defend against them. I am certainly not implying that I would have implemented these protocols during my time in Medellin, absent the knowledge only now coming to light of the modus operandi of these criminals.
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Originally Posted by Cursnoop
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If you need to do that many things to not get drugged is it not better to not bring a girl over? Or go to a sex-motel with the exact amount of money for the prepago and for the room and the driver so if she is about to rob you she won't get nothing?
I know drugging is more common in Medellin, but when I visited Bogota, I always had the women come to my apartment / hotel. The ones I met off Seeking, I would meet them at a restaurant within walking distance and never revealed where I was staying until we got there. If they were catfishing me, it would give me an opportunity to walk away.
The apartment or hotel had 24/7 security and required IDs are all visitors. I also never left my drinks unattended and ordered all transportation myself. I recommend Uber because if something goes wrong, at least they have the driver's personal info. A friend of a friend was robbed in Bogota once by getting into a taxi he hailed off the street and the driver took him somewhere where two other men got into the car.
I don't think what I did in Bogota was overly-cautious. It was the basic advice I got here and what I would repeat in any city I visit alone.
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Originally Posted by VoodooJones
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I'll be in Medellin on December 9th and staying for a week. First time here, but I've been to Bogota twice earlier this year and hooked with 3 of the same girls on both trips.
Here's an odd question: are weekdays or weekends better for meeting up with the FB women in Medellin? I have a girl I met in Bogota that will visit for a couple days. I was wondering if I should have her over the weekend or come during the end of my trip on Wednesday.
Its going to heavily depend on whether or not the FB girl has a day job or does some other type of work/school.
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