Medellin Reports

[Elvis 2008]

I thought seeking's finest were supposed to be the bees knees? Even centro chicks have sense enough to change out of their hooker gear before leaving the strip.

Why would you expect a clueless daughter in a rich family to behave the same as a typical WG?

[Mr Enternational]

This is true. It's been happening for years. It's getting more media attention recently because it's good clickbait. It reminds me of a couple of years ago when there was a flurry of reporting that tourists were turning up dead in the Dominican Republic. As it turned out the overall incidence was in line with other tourism hubs and had not spiked as the reports suggested.

That was said to be US government propaganda put out to discourage tourism because the Dominican government had started working more with the Chinese government.

Too many strange things about some of those stories that led me to call BS. For instance one story said that a couple was killed when their car was run off the road and into the ocean on their drive from Punta Cana to Santo Domingo airport. Well for that drive one would have to be driving west. The seaside is on the part of the highway going east. Also you can not see ANY water on the westerly drive from Punta Cana to the Santo Domingo airport. You can only see the water on the easterly drive from Santo Domingo city to the airport. Seemed to be only Americans that were dying from those stories that were put out.

[Combo]

I know drugging is more common in Medellin, but when I visited Bogota, I always had the women come to my apartment / hotel. The ones I met off Seeking, I would meet them at a restaurant within walking distance and never revealed where I was staying until we got there. If they were catfishing me, it would give me an opportunity to walk away.

The apartment or hotel had 24/7 security and required IDs are all visitors. I also never left my drinks unattended and ordered all transportation myself. I recommend Uber because if something goes wrong, at least they have the driver's personal info. A friend of a friend was robbed in Bogota once by getting into a taxi he hailed off the street and the driver took him somewhere where two other men got into the car.

I don't think what I did in Bogota was overly-cautious. It was the basic advice I got here and what I would repeat in any city I visit alone.

All great guidelines that every hobbyists should emulate. While one can't 100% eliminate risk, you can make it pretty marginal w these common sense precautions.

[Dwc14]

I am not judging. This is an honest observation. This post strikes me as more plausible as trolling victims than a serious product pitch.

Not trolling anyone. I lived part-time and later full-time in Medellin for 9 years and hung out with dozens of locals. The expression, "There but for the grace of god, go I," fully applies. Everything in my product suggestion / collection of safety protocols is the result of thinking through now, in full view of the details of these appalling crimes, how one could conceivably defend against them. I am certainly not implying that I would have implemented these protocols during my time in Medellin, absent the knowledge only now coming to light of the modus operandi of these criminals.

[Voodoo Jones]

If you need to do that many things to not get drugged is it not better to not bring a girl over? Or go to a sex-motel with the exact amount of money for the prepago and for the room and the driver so if she is about to rob you she won't get nothing?

I know drugging is more common in Medellin, but when I visited Bogota, I always had the women come to my apartment / hotel. The ones I met off Seeking, I would meet them at a restaurant within walking distance and never revealed where I was staying until we got there. If they were catfishing me, it would give me an opportunity to walk away.

The apartment or hotel had 24/7 security and required IDs are all visitors. I also never left my drinks unattended and ordered all transportation myself. I recommend Uber because if something goes wrong, at least they have the driver's personal info. A friend of a friend was robbed in Bogota once by getting into a taxi he hailed off the street and the driver took him somewhere where two other men got into the car.

I don't think what I did in Bogota was overly-cautious. It was the basic advice I got here and what I would repeat in any city I visit alone.

[Mtndew704]

I'll be in Medellin on December 9th and staying for a week. First time here, but I've been to Bogota twice earlier this year and hooked with 3 of the same girls on both trips.

Here's an odd question: are weekdays or weekends better for meeting up with the FB women in Medellin? I have a girl I met in Bogota that will visit for a couple days. I was wondering if I should have her over the weekend or come during the end of my trip on Wednesday.

Its going to heavily depend on whether or not the FB girl has a day job or does some other type of work/school.

[Huacho]

no drugs. Just ... an occasional cigarette from the street vendors.

So, no drugs except for the absolute most dangerous one that has killed the most people. Got it.

[Mr Enternational]

One of my seeking women came to the Marriott in super short shorts and the manager almost had a seizure.

I thought seeking's finest were supposed to be the bees knees? Even centro chicks have sense enough to change out of their hooker gear before leaving the strip.

Reminds me of a chick that came to see me in Manila. I had previously met her in a hooker club but this time she was coming 2 hours from her house. She showed up in full hooker gear. I said why are you dressed like that? You do not have any normal clothes? She actually said that she changed into that after getting off the bus and before arriving at my hotel and left her normal clothes in her bag wherever the hell. Here I am thinking we are about to go out and do normal shit. But not with her dressed like that! Fucked her and paid her and sent her on her way. Most of these chicks are as dumb as rocks.

[Mr Enternational]

Today, as far as tourism officials and the government in general is concerned punters don't exist. That's the real answer for guys who keep asking "why doesn't the government do something. " The government will step in if and when missionaries, NGO workers, or ecotourists (the real ones, not punters pretending to be for the benefit of their families back home) start turning up drugged / robbed / dead. We are a subculture and therefore not a priority for law enforcement or politicians.

Exactly. Why do mongers keep thinking they are somebody? People in this hobby get really inflated egos. You are in a very small circle of people in the grand scheme of things and not propping economies up as many assume. They do not need your kind around there. You are not the first class golden goose that you think you are; you are simply being tolerated. Sure a few lazy hookers are depending on you, but the other 99.999999% of the population thinks of you as a gnat on a dog's dick and could give 2 fucks. Just another hard-up clueless foreign guy here for drugs and prostitutes.

[Knowledge]

This is true. It's been happening for years. It's getting more media attention recently because it's good clickbait. It reminds me of a couple of years ago when there was a flurry of reporting that tourists were turning up dead in the Dominican Republic. As it turned out the overall incidence was in line with other tourism hubs and had not spiked as the reports suggested. The druggings in Colombia are a real thing and there are effective ways to prevent it. I have no objection to it getting hyped up in the press because it's likely to remind guys to be careful and it's likely to discourage guys who are prone to becoming victims from coming here.

I guess the moral of the story would be to always stay somewhere that has security 24/7 and ask the Portero to hold on to the Chicas cedula / passport until you physically escort her out of the building. Under these circumstance the worst that could happen is a Chica could get into your safety box / belongings and take things that would not be noticed upon her departure. Like only taking a small amount of money from a wallet, etc.

There's been multiple posts about this happening over the years here.

[Anthony2023]

All,

I will be in Medellin from January 16 to January 21 (5 Days). I reached out like this before and met some good ISG brothers and looking to do the same again. This announcement is to see if anyone is interested in either or both of these two things:

- Lunch.

** I've met other mongers in Medellin on previous trips and had lunch with them. I found the socializing to be good way to get into the groove of a far off city.

** Would aim to have a handshake, trade stories, and tips on locations of girls as we all have our habits that we prefer.

- Provenza.

** I've gone solo through Provenza and never stopped for a sit and a beer there. The place looks too damn nice, too social to keep passing up, but I do not want to do that solo. Provenza is not as easily allow for a solo gringo, so looking for a wingman to simply chill with.

** Looking for possible wingman for dance clubs. An ISG brother sparked my interest, so that is an itch I want to scratch.

That's it. If anyone is up for one or both, message me.

About me: I'm exceptionally normal. No anxiety issues, no prescriptions, no drugs. Just a beer and occasional cigarette from the street vendors.

I will be arriving the 19th for a week solo, My first time there so it would be cool to shoot the shit with someone like you said for lunch or whatever. I plan to check out provenza as well. I have some chicks I'm talking to already that I might take on dates but I still plan on checking out gustos, la isla club and maybe the mansion.

As far as non mongering activities I'm thinking about doing airbnb tours to comuna 13, maybe gautupe and fuck it perhaps a pablo escobar tour if I get bored.

About me: I'm in my mid 30's,in shape, not bad looking, oh and hispanic and fluent in spanish too so there's that. If you can relate and as long as you don't have a huge gut haha or anyone else who see's this if you're going to be in town, hit me up, we could make a good team at the clubs / bars. Just beers for me too, not trying to get drunk or mess with drugs.

[Anthony2023]

Keep in mind though that many hotels do not want to see you brining in women who look like hookers. One of my seeking women came to the Marriott in super short shorts and the manager almost had a seizure. I paid a guest fee just to smooth things over and it calmed him down.

Lmao he would of dropped dead if he saw the way girls in vegas dress now a days with those see thru dresses in the hotel lobby's haha.

[DonCarlos1234]

If you think Medellin has an image problem now ...............Today, as far as tourism officials and the government in general is concerned punters don't exist. That's the real answer for guys who keep asking "why doesn't the government do something. " The government will step in if and when missionaries, NGO workers, or ecotourists (the real ones, not punters pretending to be for the benefit of their families back home) start turning up drugged / robbed / dead. We are a subculture and therefore not a priority.

I too have friends who have not forgotten those days during and after Escobar. Buildings blowing up. They seem to think I will disappear there. Casacol wants to see most of the "mongers" to stay home. Because those eco tourists and digital nomads bring in a lot more $. So I hope we can all get along. When I see them I will NOT mention our secrets.

$ exchange at airport per https://en.casacol.co/blogs/where-to...y-in-medellin/.

[Knowledge]

If you think Medellin has an image problem now you should have seen it when I used to come here for business back the 90's. Armed guards were common. In fact as recently as 10 years ago the entrance to parking garages at the malls were manned by security guys with mirrors on extension poles they used to make sure cars waiting to get in were not rigged with bombs. Today, as far as tourism officials and the government in general is concerned punters don't exist. That's the real answer for guys who keep asking "why doesn't the government do something. " The government will step in if and when missionaries, NGO workers, or ecotourists (the real ones, not punters pretending to be for the benefit of their families back home) start turning up drugged / robbed / dead. We are a subculture and therefore not a priority for law enforcement or politicians. The mayor is under constant pressure from powerful conservative groups (uribistas). He was recalled and forced out of City Hall until Petro re-instated him. There is no way he or Petro are going to advocate on behalf of sex tourists because it would give his political opponents more ammunition. The "say no to the sex tourist" movement is alive and well. You can find signage in business once you get a few streets away from Parque Lleras. The USA State Department and European foreign ministries are also unlikely to prioritize the issue ahead of immigration, narcotraffic, and intelligence coordination vis-a-vis Venezuela and its relations with Russia and China. Real talk, in the bigger picture national leaders have to manage we are just not very important.

Elvis, I am at a very safe 5* hotel. They love me there. Check ID's & not going to let the SW, Ho's & scanks in. I know the management. I wouldn't consider bringing some WG over there. (well unless she is extremely hot & conservatively dressed) I appreciate and respect the hotel managers. My own friends (in business etc) and girls I've met over time are waved in. When I accompany them.

I think yes it is an accepted behavior for guys and girls to run wild in Medellin. Getting into trouble at the cost of death to some, bragging rights about how many pops blah, blah. So my post was to see if the sensible guys could slow down and think about their actions before it's too late. And I have asked around to the people who run the tourism office and own hotels and new hotel developments. You are partially correct, Medellin has IMAGE problems. My friends who visited from Vegas watched 3 robberies within 1 block in one hour in Lleras. They say they will never come back..

[DonCarlos1234]

Don, I do not play anymore. Thing about Medellin is that I always considered it overrated. On the sugar baby front, some of the women I met there were hot and often good in bed, but too many were short term oriented. Paulie called the whole country of Colombia a scam and I get why he said that, but I am not sure I agree with that statement. If he left it to just Medellin, I probably would agree.

I was in Brazil in 2004, and I was the only one in our party of 3 who did not get mugged. (GREAT STORY) A friend was walking the tourist area of Atlantic Avenue at night and was jumped by 3 guys. No one gave a shit. My brother and I were in the center of town the next day, where there are few tourists, and a pickpocket tried to grab his wallet, and there was like a whole platoon of police after the attempted thief. That told me with the Brazilian police where their priorities were, and it was protecting Brazilians not tourists.

In Cartagena a few years ago, there was a senior member of police busted for trafficking women especially the Vennies. If the police had tie ins to the scopolamine poisonings, and I have no evidence they are, it would not surprise me in the least. There was a guy here named Dublin who called police in Cartagena thinking they would be on his side when WGs tried to rip him off. The police took the WG side and told him to pay the women.

For safety purposes, I always thought it best to get the hotel staff on your side. If they call the police on your behalf, IMO you will be far better off than if you do it on your own. When I stayed in a hotel a while and was screening prospects, I tipped the doormen and staff, joked with them, and got on a first name basis with them. If it is your word against hers, you are probably going to lose. If it is you and a hotel staff's word against hers, IMO I think the odds go in your favor.

Keep in mind though that many hotels do not want to see you brining in women who look like hookers. One of my seeking women came to the Marriott in super short shorts and the manager almost had a seizure. I paid a guest fee just to smooth things over and it calmed him down.

At the end of the day though, the police will do what the pols tell them to, and the pols usually do represent the will of the people. Point is if the people think it is okay to mug mongers, and I get the feeling many think it is okay, then this is going to continue.

At this point, the only way I would go to Medellin is if I screened the women extensively and stayed in a place with high security. Otherwise, I would just avoid it and head to places in Colombia where these poisonings are not an issue or at least much less of one. This is some pretty scary shit.

Elvis, I am at a very safe 5* hotel. They love me there. Check ID's & not going to let the SW, Ho's & scanks in. I know the management. I wouldn't consider bringing some WG over there. (well unless she is extremely hot & conservatively dressed) I appreciate and respect the hotel managers. My own friends (in business etc) and girls I've met over time are waved in. When I accompany them.

I think yes it is an accepted behavior for guys and girls to run wild in Medellin. Getting into trouble at the cost of death to some, bragging rights about how many pops blah, blah. So my post was to see if the sensible guys could slow down and think about their actions before it's too late. And I have asked around to the people who run the tourism office and own hotels and new hotel developments. You are partially correct, Medellin has IMAGE problems. My friends who visited from Vegas watched 3 robberies within 1 block in one hour in Lleras. They say they will never come back.

We dealt with this in Vegas 30 years ago. Girls were grabbing guys dicks on the sidewalks. Now we have family's with strollers on the sidewalks. Busier than ever and the ho's are relegated to specific playgrounds. (LOL) Medellin (& Colombia) has far more tourists interested in Tours & Adventures and exploring the country than looking for hookers. It's probably #1 or 2 in the world for ecotourism, and adventure seekers. #2 for it's diversity of wildlife, tropical birds. There are more backpackers and digital nomads coming than the "mongers" Last time I counted there were 58 Hostels in Medellin. Really. And all had tour desks with things to do besides looking for pros.

I am not saying that Vegas doesn't still have plenty of naughtiness to go around. LOL. The top 9 of 10 nightclubs in the world are here. And yes armatures, pros, whatever you call them (college kids on Spring break) are using the thousands of hotel rooms every night to fuck. We are making gobs of money with very little gambling anymore. LOL So Maybe we are that horrible entity your GF is talking about. LOL but we do a better job with marketing the image!

Medellin needs to start rebranding so people can use the streets bringing kids with strollers for visits. It will happen. Maybe 30 years from now, maybe sooner.