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  1. #59127

    Jade Palace Spa

    Went by the place this afternoon. Was plenty busy but saw middling talent with about half a dozen girls available. Prices were 160000 COP ( 35 USD) for an hour of massage and full sex with only one orgasm allowed. Quickly excused myself.

    Place is the opposite of the in-your-face Thailand sex style. Hoping the trip gets better as time goes on as initial impressions are lacking in the girls department. Did not see anything noteworthy walking around the parque in the same time period.

  2. #59126
    Quote Originally Posted by ManuelRamirez  [View Original Post]
    I'm not trying to " Deliberately avoiding security " when I have actually suggested to register her ID for the booking with airbnb a few lines later.

    Ok I understand she is an immigrant from Venezuela but I don't understand why she shouldn't be allowed to check in because of her immigrant status.

    They are not all criminals unless I'm missing something.

    Anyway, I'm a bit after this lady as she seems to tick some boxes:

    As I mentioned we started chatting for a language exchange, we like the same music, she's bisexuale and happy to bring a friend.

    Ideally I'm looking for one lady to see more regularly and than top up with casas and street hunting, one to have a bit of GFE if it makes sense + she likes fiesta and all the jazz.

    I'm aware this does require a lot of trust. I like the barrio lady. If she doesn't fuck thinghs up it can be a deal for both.

    I have a membership so I can receive private messages as well.
    Let's start with "her immigrant status. " The law in Colombia requires hotel guests to pay a 19% tax on their hotel stay. Foreigners who have been in the country less than 90 days are exempt from the tax. Residents are not exempt. That's reason 1. Reason 2, Colombia no longer recognizes Venezuelan cedulas as acceptable identification. Try registering at a Medellin hotel with just your driver's license.

    Registering someone else in your Airbnb is fine, if you know and trust them. Chatting with someone and buying videos doesn't equal knowing them.

    Of course she clicks all the boxes. Doesn't that seem strange to you? It's unthinkable that her life path has paralleled your own close enough so she's an ideal match. Over my life I've went on dates with several women who agreed that sushi was the greatest and then backed down when it came time to eat.

    Of course she's bisexual and will bring a friend. Haven't you been reading the forum? Having a friend makes it incredibly easy to drug and rob someone. And if you find an Airbnb where you don't have to worry about security, you might wake up to find you're also liable for the stuff stolen from the apartment.

    I'm not telling the story again, but I've been exactly where you are. I wanted 1 girl to do the whole GFE thing with. Fortunately, all the ISG guys telling me I was making a mistake finally got through to me and I took the advice I'd been arguing against.

    In my situation I was much better off than you. I didn't have to worry about being drugged and robbed. Just had to worry about wasting my vacation and throwing away a lot of money. I could have ended up depressed and broke. You could end up broke and dead.

    If it was me, with the extra information you added about the girl, I'd only see her if I wanted the adrenaline rush of thwarting someone intent on robbing me. I say that because she's checked the boxes on my danger zone form. I could be wrong, but in a land full of fine, fuckable and affordable pussy, there are too many options to close every other door before your feet are touching Colombian soil.

    The way to find 1 girl to spend most of your time with isn't to fall for someone online. You use the Cinderella method. Substitute your dick for the glass slipper. Substitute pussy for feet (unless you have a foot fetish). Test the pussies with your dick until you find your princess.

    Or, at least do us the favor of reporting on the robbery.

  3. #59125
    Quote Originally Posted by Elvis2008  [View Original Post]
    Nah, Mr. E is totally right. Your typical monger is delusional about his status. The ex-Colombian president came out and said we want the sex tourist gone. It reminded me of the time when all these states in the USA started going after mongers. They said guys seeing prostitutes were supporting trafficking. When guys heard about that, they all were like "I am not for trafficking. " instead of the government is coming for your ass.

    Fast forward a few years, and Robert Kraft, the billionaire owner of the New England Patriots, gets busted. The police faked a bomb scare to put a camera in an oriental massage parlor. The woman who got Kraft off with a HJ was Chinese American and some douche bag prosecutor was like, "Kraft is supporting trafficking. " It is at that point I think guys got it. If the cops are going to be faking bomb scares and going after Kraft, what chance do I have? I am not playing in the USA anymore. The woman who serviced Kraft refused to testify against him and the court threw the video of Kraft's HJ out and Kraft walked, but thousands of other men got caught in these stings.

    If I asked the average guy paying for women in the USA, do you pay women for sex? And follow that up with: are you a law abiding citizen? I bet you 99% of guys would answer both questions yes without even seeing the hypocrisy.
    Exactly. If everyone flies down there and acts like a wreckless asshole, authorities and the public will be more inclined to crack down on the sex trade. Like that guy Osteo who would constantly post about his whoring and drug use all over the forum, then guys read that and go down there and act a fool. Speaking of Oseo, what happened to that guy? I haven't seen his posts lately, did he finally overdose or get locked up? LOL I miss his posts, they were funny.

    But in all seriousness, dudes should monger with class, tip appropriately, contribute to the local economy, keep your head down, and hope the game isn't ruined by the authorities in the near future.

  4. #59124
    Quote Originally Posted by OJeito  [View Original Post]
    Are there are any love motels in el poblado besides las cabanas? I tried out Las cabanas love motel down the hill from parque lleras and found it underwhelming and slightly overpriced. Are there any other love motels nearby? Love motels seem to be prevalent throughout the city but I haven't noticed any in el poblado for some reason. A friend who lives on 70 raves about the new Ibiza lounge that opened this past year. The jacuzzi suite runs 80 k for 6 hours.
    Motel Ibiza, just south of Mayorista on Autopista Sur is a quick taxi ride away from Parque Lleras. Looks like they've raised prices. 108 k for 6 hours for the basic jacuzzi suite (jacuzzi, stripper pole, couch, sound system, TV, queen bed, sex chair, fully equipped mini bar, plus room service for food, drinks and sex toys). Very secure. Also the rooms have some of the best showers in Medellin.

    Looks like they now have a second location on Carrera 80 in Laureles.

  5. #59123
    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony2023  [View Original Post]
    Does security care if it's a different girl every night? Or do they assume when you add a guest to your reservation it's suppose to be the same chick every day?
    Usually, no. They don't care. However, it depends on the hotel.

  6. #59122
    Quote Originally Posted by MoonShot  [View Original Post]
    A lot of guys are putting their faith in hotel security but there are potential flaws. Many of these girls are recruited by criminal gangs and are not working solo. How easy would it be for criminal gangs to create or obtain fake IDs for these girls? I don't think it would be very difficult. Keep in mind that these IDs are looked at by reception staff who are not experts in analyzing IDs and probably look at the ID for a few seconds. So it may be the case that the hotel has a copy of a fake ID.
    To play devil's advocate: if a Colombian can't spot a fake ID, then what chance does a foreigner have? It shouldn't be your only safeguard though.

    A recurring theme we see in these druggings is that the men were drinking with the women. Most either had the woman serve them a drink or left their drinks unattended. I think this is the #1 rule we all should follow. If you need to take a piss, finish your drink and order / get one when you get back. If she got one for you when you were gone, say you've had enough and let her drink it.

    And it should go without saying: don't get drunk guys. Keep your wits about you at all times.

  7. #59121
    Hi Elvis,

    I don't think you will find many members here who would advocate going on paid dates in the US where it could leave you with a criminal record or a place on the sex offender list. There are numerous guys who suffered that fate who now wish they had paid the cost of airfare to avoid it. Robert Kraft's very high net worth and very advanced age sets him way apart from most of us I reckon. I always advise keeping as low a profile as practical to avoid problems.

    Quote Originally Posted by Elvis2008  [View Original Post]
    Nah, Mr. E is totally right. Your typical monger is delusional about his status. The ex-Colombian president came out and said we want the sex tourist gone. It reminded me of the time when all these states in the USA started going after mongers. They said guys seeing prostitutes were supporting trafficking. When guys heard about that, they all were like "I am not for trafficking. " instead of the government is coming for your ass.

    Fast forward a few years, and Robert Kraft, the billionaire owner of the New England Patriots, gets busted. The police faked a bomb scare to put a camera in an oriental massage parlor. The woman who got Kraft off with a HJ was Chinese American and some douche bag prosecutor was like, "Kraft is supporting trafficking. " It is at that point I think guys got it. If the cops are going to be faking bomb scares and going after Kraft, what chance do I have? I am not playing in the USA anymore. The woman who serviced Kraft refused to testify against him and the court threw the video of Kraft's HJ out and Kraft walked, but thousands of other men got caught in these stings.

    If I asked the average guy paying for women in the USA, do you pay women for sex? And follow that up with: are you a law abiding citizen? I bet you 99% of guys would answer both questions yes without even seeing the hypocrisy.

  8. #59120

    Aisha spa replacement

    Folks,

    Boots on ground. I used to get a good massage with awesome service in Aisha Spa.

    Looks like it has closed. Any alternative nearby in Laureles now.

  9. #59119
    100 % agree, the lady who recently killed that guy days before dated someone else and she accessed dude building with an ID. Than she pushed him to drink and all the story is on Reddit.

    But yes I wouldn't rely on a that, it's just a piece of plastic with a picture anyone can make better than real ones.

    Quote Originally Posted by MoonShot  [View Original Post]
    A lot of guys are putting their faith in hotel security but there are potential flaws. Many of these girls are recruited by criminal gangs and are not working solo. How easy would it be for criminal gangs to create or obtain fake IDs for these girls? I don't think it would be very difficult. Keep in mind that these IDs are looked at by reception staff who are not experts in analyzing IDs and probably look at the ID for a few seconds. So it may be the case that the hotel has a copy of a fake ID.

    Now perhaps they call you when the girl walks out alone. But sometimes the hotel lobby is large and it can be easy to evade hotel staff to leave the hotel. Also sometimes reception is busy helping others. And if the girl is experienced, she probably has done it already.

    Now, lets say, you call the police and you have a picture or name of the girl and you are a tourist who is there for one week. They are probably not going to catch her while you are there, if they bother to put in the effort. How much do you trust the Colombian police to do their job on behalf of a gringo who is leaving soon? When they do catch her and there is a preliminary hearing, are you going to fly back and testify against her? I didn't think so. I wouldn't if it didn't fit my vacation schedule. I think the police and criminals know this too. So they probably let her go because there are no witnesses to testify against her. This is assuming that they could actually find her even if they know her name. I don't know how easy it would be find someone in Medellin but given the less organized nature of Colombia, I think it would be difficult unless you have the money to paid someone to track her down.

    None of this is meant to scare you from coming to Colombia. It just means that you have be careful in Colombia because it is a more dangerous country than other mongering countries such as Thailand or Costa Rica.

  10. #59118
    Quote Originally Posted by OJeito  [View Original Post]
    Are there are any love motels in el poblado besides las cabanas? I tried out Las cabanas love motel down the hill from parque lleras and found it underwhelming and slightly overpriced. Are there any other love motels nearby? Love motels seem to be prevalent throughout the city but I haven't noticed any in el poblado for some reason. A friend who lives on 70 raves about the new Ibiza lounge that opened this past year. The jacuzzi suite runs 80 k for 6 hours.
    This is a very good question. Love hotels in Poblado could be cheaper than taking a chick home with joiner fees and safer as maybe they can't steal your shit as bad.

    I have a feeling walking down Calle 10 in the evening, there might be a few people that would know that answer. They might be dressed in very short skirts and always make eye contact with you.

    Perhaps someone can ask them and report back.

  11. #59117
    Quote Originally Posted by MoonShot  [View Original Post]
    A lot of guys are putting their faith in hotel security but there are potential flaws. Many of these girls are recruited by criminal gangs and are not working solo. How easy would it be for criminal gangs to create or obtain fake IDs for these girls? I don't think it would be very difficult. Keep in mind that these IDs are looked at by reception staff who are not experts in analyzing IDs and probably look at the ID for a few seconds. So it may be the case that the hotel has a copy of a fake ID.

    Now perhaps they call you when the girl walks out alone. But sometimes the hotel lobby is large and it can be easy to evade hotel staff to leave the hotel. Also sometimes reception is busy helping others. And if the girl is experienced, she probably has done it already.

    Now, lets say, you call the police and you have a picture or name of the girl and you are a tourist who is there for one week. They are probably not going to catch her while you are there, if they bother to put in the effort. How much do you trust the Colombian police to do their job on behalf of a gringo who is leaving soon? When they do catch her and there is a preliminary hearing, are you going to fly back and testify against her? I didn't think so. I wouldn't if it didn't fit my vacation schedule. I think the police and criminals know this too. So they probably let her go because there are no witnesses to testify against her. This is assuming that they could actually find her even if they know her name. I don't know how easy it would be find someone in Medellin but given the less organized nature of Colombia, I think it would be difficult unless you have the money to paid someone to track her down.

    None of this is meant to scare you from coming to Colombia. It just means that you have be careful in Colombia because it is a more dangerous country than other mongering countries such as Thailand or Costa Rica.
    Some places scan IDs (barcodes) rather than make copies. Fake ID would probably won't pop up in the system once scanned. Also, some places lock the doors after 8 or 9 pm, so you can't just sneak in or out without being unnoticed, a security guy has to open the door for you or your guest.

  12. #59116
    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony2023  [View Original Post]
    Does security care if it's a different girl every night? Or do they assume when you add a guest to your reservation it's suppose to be the same chick every day?
    Each place has its own rules. But my experience is that it is only the one chica that you have registered with you that would be allowed.

    The only way you will know is to check beforehand with your host (if you are going to an Airbnb) or with hotel.

  13. #59115
    Quote Originally Posted by Knowledge  [View Original Post]
    It's quite a bit more widespread than that.
    I hear the wife beaters and the nike slides are invading Cartagena.

  14. #59114

    Hotel Security / Police

    A lot of guys are putting their faith in hotel security but there are potential flaws. Many of these girls are recruited by criminal gangs and are not working solo. How easy would it be for criminal gangs to create or obtain fake IDs for these girls? I don't think it would be very difficult. Keep in mind that these IDs are looked at by reception staff who are not experts in analyzing IDs and probably look at the ID for a few seconds. So it may be the case that the hotel has a copy of a fake ID.

    Now perhaps they call you when the girl walks out alone. But sometimes the hotel lobby is large and it can be easy to evade hotel staff to leave the hotel. Also sometimes reception is busy helping others. And if the girl is experienced, she probably has done it already.

    Now, lets say, you call the police and you have a picture or name of the girl and you are a tourist who is there for one week. They are probably not going to catch her while you are there, if they bother to put in the effort. How much do you trust the Colombian police to do their job on behalf of a gringo who is leaving soon? When they do catch her and there is a preliminary hearing, are you going to fly back and testify against her? I didn't think so. I wouldn't if it didn't fit my vacation schedule. I think the police and criminals know this too. So they probably let her go because there are no witnesses to testify against her. This is assuming that they could actually find her even if they know her name. I don't know how easy it would be find someone in Medellin but given the less organized nature of Colombia, I think it would be difficult unless you have the money to paid someone to track her down.

    None of this is meant to scare you from coming to Colombia. It just means that you have be careful in Colombia because it is a more dangerous country than other mongering countries such as Thailand or Costa Rica.

  15. #59113
    I'm not trying to " Deliberately avoiding security " when I have actually suggested to register her ID for the booking with airbnb a few lines later.

    Ok I understand she is an immigrant from Venezuela but I don't understand why she shouldn't be allowed to check in because of her immigrant status.

    They are not all criminals unless I'm missing something.

    Anyway, I'm a bit after this lady as she seems to tick some boxes:

    As I mentioned we started chatting for a language exchange, we like the same music, she's bisexuale and happy to bring a friend.

    Ideally I'm looking for one lady to see more regularly and than top up with casas and street hunting, one to have a bit of GFE if it makes sense + she likes fiesta and all the jazz.

    I'm aware this does require a lot of trust. I like the barrio lady. If she doesn't fuck thinghs up it can be a deal for both.

    I have a membership so I can receive private messages as well.

    Quote Originally Posted by JjBee62  [View Original Post]
    You're not getting things right.

    The money you sent wasn't payment for anything. If she told you she'll fuck for 200 k, and you already gave her 200 k, she's got no reason to fuck you, unless she expects at least 200 k more.

    Any place with acceptable security probably won't let her in on just a Venezuelan cedula. Deliberately finding ways to avoid security, especially for a newbie is a bad idea. Then letting the girl know there's more money and plastic at another location? Probably will ruin your chances of winning Rookie Monger of the Year award.

    Planning anything that involves "when she decides to leave" is a huge mistake. You bring 1 over, fuck her, pay her and send her away. Then you repeat with another girl. And another. Then, if you want to see the first 1 again, bring her back for another session. Don't put her name on the Airbnb and don't let her decide when to leave.

    Don't get me wrong. I enjoy having a girl hang out for 2-4 hours, but that's it unless I've got enough time with her to trust her.

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