Medellin Reports

[Nounce]

... 1. The girl wants you to go to her choice of bar. Don't. Pick where you're going to go. ....

And order you own car, don't take the car the girl ordered. minuto30.com reported that the victim was found in Robledo which is a long way from Poblado or Laureles. It also said the victim is the 26th killed this year in similar circumstance.

[Husker Dude]

I'm planning to follow your recommendations.

Given the Paul Nguyen situation, here's the rest of my newbie safety plan:

4. Go to New Life during the day.

5. Get back to the Mansion before dark and partake of girls from the Mansion bar in the evening.

6. Avoid the bar / party / street girl scene.

What about finding photoprepagos girls and getting outcall to the Mansion, if I don't find anything I like at the Mansion bar?

Are girls likely to drug you and steal from you at the Mansion? Do both buildings ID the girls at the door for your protection?

Thanks for your suggestions.

Girls coming into the Mansion do have ID's checked & info written down before entering both hotel or bar. They can't enter if they have been banned from the Mansion (which occurs if they cause trouble). If you invite outside girls that are not normally Mansion girls, then you may not be as safe. Also some outside girls refuse to go to the Mansion.

[MoonShot]

If you're bringing chicas to your apartment, it's best to stay in a place with a reception that takes IDs and also calls you when your guests are leaving. If you don't have this, keep your eyes on your drink.

I don't drink with my girls in my hotel room. I prefer to concentrate on the task at hand and alcohol affects my ability to perform. I let the girls drink beer but I just drink from a bottle of water with a cap. I can see that drinking with girls at your place can increase the risk. Something to think about is whether it is really necessary to drink alcohol with the girl when you are back in your place. Maybe it is a young monger's thing but when you are older, you need to be 100% ready to perform.

[JustTK]

6. Avoid the bar / party / street girl scene.

Are girls likely to drug you and steal from you at the Mansion?

I heard that the Mansion reception staff are now putting scop in the welcome drinks.

You could of course just go out for the day w 100.000 in your pocket, pick up a couple of street girls, and take them to a short time hotel. In the worst case scenario, all they could do is steal your taxi fare home. In the best case, you could have a lot of fun for USD 20.

[ShinyCrazy]

I'm planning to follow your recommendations.

Given the Paul Nguyen situation, here's the rest of my newbie safety plan:

4. Go to New Life during the day.

5. Get back to the Mansion before dark and partake of girls from the Mansion bar in the evening.

6. Avoid the bar / party / street girl scene.

What about finding photoprepagos girls and getting outcall to the Mansion, if I don't find anything I like at the Mansion bar?

Are girls likely to drug you and steal from you at the Mansion? Do both buildings ID the girls at the door for your protection?

Thanks for your suggestions.

1. Start learning Spanish. An hour a day in 10-15 minute sessions with a language app.

2. Stay at the Mansion. Search Google for Hotel M Medellin and you'll find the website.

3. Bring your own condoms.

[DonCarlos1234]

They were 100% street girls. They left no doubt about their intentions. I agree with you about the photo op. That is why I shot them in the back.

Who has an opinion or better some insight or facts regarding "mongering: in Medellin like the people who peruse this list. VS. DIY tourists or guys that use the bachelor party websites (all inclusive type "high end" sex tourists? NOTE the city of Medellin is investing large sums of $ in a major face lift for Lleras and they have corporate backers building hotels like Marquee owned by Casacol. Tourism has more than doubled in the last year, beyond 2019 reported numbers. And still growing. What will the future look like?

[SteelDh]

Hey, does any know what the cost of girl in La Isla and Faze dos is now?

[Anthony2023]

From videos I been watching about victims, it's best to avoid any woman who approaches you wherever you may be, especially if she's with a friend. I would even try to avoid having a conversation with anyone who comes up to you. Stick to women only you approach. Same goes for online.

[Que Rico]

I was drugged around the same day as Paul. Out for 40 hours (Monday 10 pm to Wed 5 pm). Second date with a non pro (I thought) girl from Bumble and mistakenly invited her to my apartment. Went down within 15 secs. She then calls an accomplice and cleared my place out. Many of you know me in person and I am a fairly seasoned Medellin guy. No newbie.

I will share the story when back stateside, but be very careful out there gentlemen. I was lucky to survive and only have replaceable things stolen.

Do you know what her name is do you have a photo because I have a friend of mine that's active on there he says it's the least dangerous site but apparently not these girls get away with anything I hope you filled out a police report 99.9% of people never do that's why they keep drugging people and never get caught.

[JjBee62]

If you're bringing chicas to your apartment, it's best to stay in a place with a reception that takes IDs and also calls you when your guests are leaving. If you don't have this, keep your eyes on your drink.

And if you do have that, keep your eyes on your drink.

[JjBee62]

Not to diminish the negative experience of others, but this is all anecdotal. I would love to see some stats on REAL risk. I mean surely, you have more chance of being run over on the street. Although that's anecdotal too. I am just concerned not to create a mountain out of a molehill.

BUt one thing I feel quite sure about. Arranging a price beforehand has zero impact. How could it? Sii mi cielo, dame 150.000, esta bien? Why would that be beyond a mala chica?

Your risk, based on the way you monger is essentially zero. The guys who monger strictly around Parque Lleras have a higher risk. Those who use Tinder have a higher risk. If they party hard, even more risk.

[JjBee62]

Yeah I'm not sure if I would recommend taking selfies of these girls. Some of these girls want to be discreet and one should respect their privacy. I wouldn't want some girl I just met to be taking random pictures of me either. Talk about killing the mood. At least wait till she's several drinks in if you are going to try to be slick and do that. I'm going solo for the first time but I'm just going to use my common sense. You should be able to notice if something doesn't feel right. Also pay attention to things like how they are dressed. If a girl shows up to a date all covered up like the pic of the chick Paul was with, that to me would of been a red flag already not to mention she was on her phone. A girl should rarely be even looking at her phone if she's on a date with you. Just have to play it smart and I'm going to try to avoid letting a waiter / waitress bring me a beer or drink. I rather go up to the bar and grab it myself.

If you're planning on using common sense, then being several drinks in with a girl should never happen.

Unfortunately, and this is a bigger problem the more you drink, people don't always pay attention when things don't feel right.

Girls spend a lot of time on their phones. Unless you're able to carry on at least a basic conversation in Spanish, she's likely to be on her phone.

Here are some signs that you might be in trouble:

1. The girl wants you to go to her choice of bar. Don't. Pick where you're going to go. If you're not certain about the girl, meet at a public place, like The Beer Store in Parque Lleras. Watch her arrive, see if anyone is following her. Shortly after she arrives move to a different bar.

2. The girl is insistent that you drink. Don't. If you suspect she has put something in your drink, don't drink it and order something else.

3. Once in your room the girl is hesitant to get naked and get busy. If she's stalling, trying to get you to drink or anything else, send her away.

Don't drink to excess. The more you drink the easier it is to drug you, and the greater risk you'll die from being drugged.

[Knowledge]

OK, so the reason I asked the question was to help other guys avoid a similar fate. One of the ways I've stayed away from this sort of thing is I have a hard non negotiable rule in my apartment. I never allow any girl into my kitchen or near my food or drinks. Anything that is consumed in my place is prepared and served by me only. I don't remember every having to insist. In my experience it is unusual for local girls, especially local girls you don't know well, to volunteer to prepare or serve anything. I always offer whatever they may want and then I serve it to them. I don't even allow girls to wash dishes or bring used plates to the kitchen. They can't slip you anything by cleaning up but I like to keep it simple by maintaining a strict across the board off limits policy. I'm really sorry you had to go through this and I appreciate you sharing to help other guys avoid it.

I know how I was drugged, it was a shot of aguadiente. We'd already had some wine and one smaller shot, I was out on the balcony getting steaks off the grill, I come in and she says let's do another shot. She had pre poured, but I had bought the bottle earlier and she took her's first.

As soon as I took mine I knew something was odd. That noted, there was none of the zombiness or going numb for me. My legs gave out and I went straight to the floor. That shit, at least in the quantity I was given, is no joke. E.

[Knowledge]

This is good advice. Doormen and security cameras are your friends. My only quibble is it's a good practice to keep track of your drink whether or not you have a doorman. When in doubt or with previously unknown parties, don't consume anything.

If you're bringing chicas to your apartment, it's best to stay in a place with a reception that takes IDs and also calls you when your guests are leaving. If you don't have this, keep your eyes on your drink.

[Anthony2023]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ToQ8PWYnu04

Very good documentary for people who haven't watched it. Good info on how people use this drug and it's effects and what to look out for.