Medellin Reports

[Mr Enternational]

I will say that historically I've invited the Paisas I thought were non-pros over to my place for some dinner drinks on the 2nd or 3rd date. Even this will stop for here on out. No more non-pros unless through Paisa friends.

I understand how you are feeling coming off of the incident, but it does not have to stop. If the chick is a real nonpro and not someone up to no good then it is easy to find this out by vetting her.

One of the first things I ask a chick is what she does for a living. If she does not have a job that she goes to everyday from this time to this time then yellow flags should go up. Every nonpro chick that I know in Colombia has some type of job or is an actual full time student. And I know a lot of freaking Colombian chicks. That is why when I am in Bogota, Barranquilla, or Cali I am alone in the daytime. All the nonpros are at a real job or in a real school building. The don't have idle time to putz off.

Colombia is not like the Dominican Republic where chicks will sit on their ass for years staring at the sky without a job. Chicks that have jobs are not the ones out doing this kind of nefarious stuff.

[Surfer500]

Other reports talk about a 'Zombie' state. I didn't experience that, but it may have just been due to my dosage. My experience was more akin to what people say when they've been date raped.

This whole topic raises a question that perhaps you and / or others can answer. Whatever the drugs are that get used, will the victim be in a state of mind where they would open a security box in their apartment knowingly while intoxicated / drugged, etc. I know guys with a gun to their head would do so, but it sounds like in a lot of cases the guys just pass out and then get robbed. And your to be commended for sharing your experience, you can never let your guard down because when you least expect it, you can jacked up.

[JjBee62]

Is there a scenario where they can drug you without you drinking? I've heard stories through the years of such but they all seem to be too far-fetch in my opinion.

Yes I've heard the stories.

1. They blow the power into your face. That's James Bond, not real life. It would require exceptional precision and timing, and you'd still be "what the fuck? Hey asshole what was that all about?

2. The girl puts it on her skin, so when you kiss her you get drugged. That's a lot of kissing and would require about 10 times the dosage. Plus Scopolamine can be absorbed through the skin so they are more likely to drug themselves.

3. They put it on doorknobs. That one came from a YouTube Medellin "expert. " Unless you're sucking doorknobs or immediately linking your hands after grabbing a doorknob, not much of a risk.

Occam's Razor. The easiest way is probably the right way. It's not difficult for a pretty girl to get a gringo to drink with her. It's not complicated for a pretty girl to distract a drunk gringo long enough to put something in his drink. If you're in a bar suggested by the girl, she can easily have accomplices drug your drink.

[JjBee62]

I find very useful Google earth / street views to check the buildings and the address on it, most streets are up to date.

For casas especially, Street View is great to find the right door.

[Zeos1]

Is there a scenario where they can drug you without you drinking? I've heard stories through the years of such but they all seem to be too far-fetch in my opinion.

In your food.

[Cursnoop]

What I still don't get is why she provided her real ID at the hotel, if she was intending to drug and rob the guy. You don't give your ID before you commit a crime, makes no sense. Unless her ID was fake, but since they scanned it, I would assume it was real. I'm not sure if fake ID can be scanned though. She could have just said that she did not have ID on her and bail out. Instead, she proceeded with him to his room, I'm puzzled here.

There is a lot of reasons a person might use her real ID. Maybe she knew that they check the ID thoroughly. She proceed to the room to check what is in the room and to see if it is worth it to rob him or not. And they will probably try with another girl.

The thing is Medellin is getting a lot of tourist throwing big money around girls and that attracts people that want to rob you because there life is hard and cruel. Like someone said before some people make 40.000 cop a day working whole day and you a throwing 20 x that amount for a pussy to bust 1 nut.

In Colombia you are not the middle class but the upper class and that brings attention.

I got a good friend in Colombia and he always says this. Think with your head and not your dick.

If you are not pulling that type of woman where you live with your looks, you are not pulling them in Colombia.

If you know and just want to fuck and give money make sure you are staying at a good apartment or hotel where all guest need to register.

Put safety and security above pussy. Try to stay at place with multiple guards and where they check ID thoroughly and with a lot of camera.

Some places they have 2 guards all the time at front desk and they scan your ID and take pictures.

Know and remember that she is in for the money not your looks so do not let your guards down and do not overpay, play broke and do not pay gringo prices, some girls will accept local prices, if you pay higher prices easily knows that it just attracts the things you do not want to. The successful / rich looking will get you easy pussy in States but not in Colombia it will get you problems.

[Chicago85]

Can you clarify also was it in fact something she slipped in your drink. There are wild stories and unconfirmed reports that the scopolamine can come in liquid or powder.

Yes, it was slipped in a shot / trago of aguadiente.

To be honest, I rarely drink hard liquor anymore, but I had bought it to take to a Paisa friends place later in the week for a small get together. When the girl arrived we had some red wine first. Then she saw the aguadiente and asked if I liked it, which I affirmed. She said she did too (which should have been a sign as most girls don't! I opened it and poured small shots first as she only looked like 110 lbs.

I then put some steaks on the balcony grill and continued chatting with her through the doorway (I speak conversational spanish). I wrap up steaks and go back inside where she has larger pre poured shots suggests we do another one. I say ok if you do yours first. She does, gives me a wink, and says your turn. I do mine next and as I did it I could see it was cloudy, but it was too late. Hit me like a ton of bricks and 'big tree, fell hard'.

Other reports talk about a 'Zombie' state. I didn't experience that, but it may have just been due to my dosage. My experience was more akin to what people say when they've been date raped.

[ILikeButts]

Thanks for the trip report, good stuff. Glad you had a good time. I'm a similar age and we are pretty similar in how we roll. Facebook is my favorite source and also used it exclusively on my last trip. Next trip (in a week) I might try to expand my horizons a bit with some Centro and / or casa activities as well. In the FB proposal message I don't specifically say bareback but mention I want a "girlfriend experience" and I was 9/9 on the last trip, with a few requiring a propina. So for guys like us that is out there and on the menu.

I just returned from my 10 day trip to Medellin. I saw 13 girls in 10 days, all from Facebook. To fit in all the girls that I wanted to see, I had to do double duty on some days when is hard for an older gent but possible with a little help from Viagra.

I did not get robbed or drugged. I stayed in a hotel where the identification card was checked and photocopied. I decided on this trip to see if I could get bareback GFE sessions. This is what I experienced when I asked the girls that question. Most said no, some said yes. Some said yes with additional payment. Some said no and then later in the week said yes when I passed on seeing them. All I can tell you is that I brought 15 condoms just in case and when I went home, I had 15 condoms left. There were enough Facebook girls that I had chatted with, that if you just ask enough girls, you will get your fill of bareback girls if that is what you want but you will also get a lot of rejections. Just par for the course.

The mandatory warning for barebacking. It is risky and you may catch a STD or HIV. You should read about the risk before you engage in such risky behavior. As for me, at my advanced age, I have had performance issues when I use a condom (but not all the time). Just one of those things.

Most of the girls were young and attractive, 18-22 years old. Surprising number of girls were 18 years old. The rest were 24-25 years old. Most were short and slim, a few were curvy with large breasts. No one rushed me. Everyone gave me the time to finish. I am an older monger, close to 60 so one shot is more than enough for me. I asked for 2 hours but that did not mean two hours of sex and I did not require that. Everyone said yes to 2 hours but apparently 2 hours does not mean 2 hours to the girls. The girls generally stayed about 1 1/2 to 1 HR 45 minutes. Some stayed 2 hours or more. No one left before I had my fill of sex and it was just the non-sex part that got shortchanged. The agreed upon amount was usually in 200-250 mil, usually plus 50 mil transport but not always.

I was very content with the performances. The only complaint I would have is that the blowjobs tend to be short, about 5 minutes long. There were some exceptions. I have posted about my experiences in Guadalajara where the girls gave long deep blowjobs. It was a little different here. However, when it came to the sex, the girls were all willing to let me go as long as I wanted until I finished. No complaints there.

This was my second trip so I learned a lot from my mistakes during my first trip. Everything was negotiated upfront prior to the meeting and there were no misunderstanding. I only speak basic Spanish and I rely on Google Translate to get my point across along with hand gestures.

Good trip. Plenty of fun. No mishaps. Every girl was good to great in bed and everyone was friendly. There were no major disappointments. The girls all looked like their pictures on Facebook and everyone was the age that they said they were. I looked at their ID cards when they presented it to the hotel. It was surprising to me that girls didn't try to say that they were younger than they were. That is something that happens in other countries.

I look forward to trip number three. Third is the charm, as they say.

I was always very careful in Medellin. I am aware of my surroundings and try to screen my girls carefully based on their Facebook profiles. So far, it has been working out and I will probably stick with Facebook girls on my next trip. No reason to change from a successful formula.

The only issue is that if you are going to insist on barebacking, you will miss out on some very attractive girls who seem very promising but will not go bareback for obvious reasons. I am going to open it up to very attractive girls who at least provide BBBJ next time.

[Mtndew704]

Exactly. You guys are making rocket science out of this. It is not that hard to figure. Didn't I say that ALL these stories have in common that the guy was drinking. If you are not drinking, more than likely they will not be able to get you. Meet up with these chicks when you are sober (unlike the guy that drunk a ton before meeting up and they were able to rob him without even drugging him) and do not drink around them!

Is there a scenario where they can drug you without you drinking? I've heard stories through the years of such but they all seem to be too far-fetch in my opinion.

[Chicago85]

Exactly. You guys are making rocket science out of this. It is not that hard to figure. Didn't I say that ALL these stories have in common that the guy was drinking. If you are not drinking, more than likely they will not be able to get you. Meet up with these chicks when you are sober (unlike the guy that drunk a ton before meeting up and they were able to rob him without even drugging him) and do not drink around them!

I agree. I will say that historically I've invited the Paisas I thought were non-pros over to my place for some dinner drinks on the 2nd or 3rd date. My trips have typically been 8 to 14 days so this was done to accelerate things a bit. The drinks have always been ones that I bought and giving a woman a nice glass of wine and massage works as well as an aphrodisiac here as it does in the US. Was I doing too much for these women? Probably yes, even though a handful developed into great novia / friends with benefits situations. Even this will stop for here on out. No more non-pros unless through Paisa friends. Only offsite and sober as well.

[Knowledge]

This is an excellent bit of advice. You can go to a safe place like nearby cafe to whip out your phone and orient yourself and chart a path with visual cues right up to the doorway of the venue.

I find very useful Google earth / street views to check the buildings and the address on it, most streets are up to date.

[Mr Enternational]

my advice to all would be to stay at hotels or airbnbs with security and cameras. You don't give your ID before you commit a crime, makes no sense.

These are not the smartest people in the world. They would be working a regular job instead of out drugging and robbing if they were. Plus after you have pulled it off so many times until it is like brushing your teeth, then you get complacent. You know how many of these stories that I have seen on facebook where they have the chick on camera? They do not care about any stinking cameras or IDs or none of that shit. They only care about walking out with your shit.

[Mr Enternational]

Her name and photo was provided on Reddit by a young man with better survival instincts than myself. He spent 3 hours with her around Laureles, but said he isn't much of a drinker. They then went to his hotel where the hotel staff scanned her cedula (she used the real one). The girl got frustrated when she couldn't get the guy to drink and left.

Exactly. You guys are making rocket science out of this. It is not that hard to figure. Didn't I say that ALL these stories have in common that the guy was drinking. If you are not drinking, more than likely they will not be able to get you. Meet up with these chicks when you are sober (unlike the guy that drunk a ton before meeting up and they were able to rob him without even drugging him) and do not drink around them!

[Knowledge]

I've heard stories of powder scoping of guys who get it blown into their faces. My impression is it's more often something slipped into a drink. I've never heard of someone having something slipped into their drink in a public place like a restaurant or bar. All this scoping talk recently I'm going to be on the lookout to get a better feel for teams involved in it. Having lived mostly in urban areas my instinct is to move away from squirrely behavior. I think it's worked in my favor so far.

Can you clarify also was it in fact something she slipped in your drink. There are wild stories and unconfirmed reports that the scopolamine can come in liquid or powder.

[DonCarlos1234]

Full disclosure. I have never been to the Mansion so I can address it objectively. However inexperienced you may be, staying at the Mansion or being robbed and dying a violent death is not a binary choice. If you do decide to stay there and you find yourself underwhelmed by the staffing, the good news is you have the entire city of Medellin within easy reach. There is lots of helpful safety information on this section of the website. At one time there was a Mansion specific section. I wish you a safe and enjoyable visit.

You can not be too careful with strangers on ANY internet site or walking around out on the streets. The risks some of you take for a cheap fuck or wanting to meet multiple women (! Are just stupid. NO it is not what you expect but it is happening anyway. Use your BRAIN. You get all this info here, yet it still happens. You are accidents waiting. I am sorry. It will continue unless you use your brains!