Medellin Reports

[Mtndew704]

Did not make it to Angeles spa Thursday. Hooked up with a SW near my hotel in Parque Lleras. This town is great. My question is El Centro. I went to Botero park and enjoyed the scuptures, had a good meal but did not see many hookers. Walked around for a while but must have done something stupid. I can not find the map in Distinguished posts so I am relying on your patience for some help. Where are they. Probably going back to Fase 2 tonight. Some very nice looking talent there.

Did you walk behind the white church?

[JjBee62]

Yes giving away your money for free even if it's 2 mil at a time fucking sucks but hey different strokes for different folks. And comparing medellin to anywhere in the US simply doesn't make any sense, there are many things you can do here that you can't do in the US, it's apples to oranges. And for your information I've been here since August and it already is November, and I didn't do it by making it rain in stupid strip clubs. And I seriously doubt you have had more fun than me, albeit we may have a different definition of what fun is, how many of these strip club girls have you barebacked? How many stay with you for a week straight like a girlfriend? How many have you traveled with thru Colombia to different pueblos by bus? Yea I think we have different definitions of what fun is and I seriously doubt you have had more fun than I have had in Colombia.

You're not giving away 2 k. You're exchanging it. Not only are you exchanging it, you're getting a good bargain.

The girl is giving you a chance to see her up close, see how she moves, feel her body and even find out what she smells like. Not only that, you're letting every girl in the club know you're not just there to watch for free. The best looking girls go where the money is. If you're just sitting around pissed off and not spending money, they aren't wasting their time on you.

If you smile, spend a few dollars, speak a bit of Spanish you can easily get the girls you don't want to bring you the girl you do want.

Strip Clubs in the US now aren't much different. After coming offstage they make the rounds. There aren't any bedrooms, but the VIP room has seen plenty of blowjobs and fucks. And the last time I went I was amazed at the amount of touching I was encouraged to do.

Making it rain? We're talking about spending 2 k every 4 or 5 minutes. You might be spending 30 k per hour. If $6 is crucial to your plans, you need to be better at planning.

Travel throughout Colombia by bus? Fuck that. I can understand being cheap. I can understand being a masochist. I just can't understand taking tortuous bus rides for cheap masochistic thrills. Do you ask the bus driver to call you his ***** whenever you get jerked around by his driving?

Rent a car, you can have your girl masturbating in the passenger seat. Rent a moto. She can ride with her hand down your pants. Take a plane. You get there quicker and you're not exhausted from the bus ride.

[SouthernOcean]

Did not make it to Angeles spa Thursday. Hooked up with a SW near my hotel in Parque Lleras. This town is great. My question is El Centro. I went to Botero park and enjoyed the scuptures, had a good meal but did not see many hookers. Walked around for a while but must have done something stupid. I can not find the map in Distinguished posts so I am relying on your patience for some help. Where are they. Probably going back to Fase 2 tonight. Some very nice looking talent there.

[JjBee62]

It's funny you say this because actually about a week ago I had went to the veracruz church area with exactly 30 mil in my wallet (I also had 10 mil hidden to have food and bus money) and anyways I went up to several chicas asking cuanto cobras? I found a halfway decent looking one that said 30 mil to which I replied "pero solo tengo exactamente 30 mil" and I even pulled out my wallet and showed her the 20 mil and 10 mil bills that I had. And then I was like "vamos o no?" and she replied "esta bien vamos" she took me to brisas de jardin around the corner there across from the panaderia. It ended up being 10 k for the pieza and 20 k for her and she even gave me BBBJ without me even asking for it. Then we had condom sex. The session was still pretty decent and I was able to finish.

So actually it can be 30 k even including the room. However I do agree this is not the norm and I was quite surprised myself.

So technically not false information.

And BBVA charges a fee to people who aren't using a Capital 1 card, meaning that was also not false information. Did the irony escape you?

[JjBee62]

Did you miss the part where I said I was not into either of the dancers? I have no problem tipping girls I want attention from. That system makes sense and is consistent with them paying the club to work there. But if I didn't even watch you dancer and I don't want any attention from her, and I paid a cover to get in and overpaid for a drink, then no, they don't deserve a tip. Like I said it's not about the money, it's about the principle. I have to tip the bartender to get small bills to tip girls that I don't want attention from just for doing their job? Stop trying to act like I'm the one being ridiculous. The system is stupid.

No. Didn't miss it, it was just completely useless, so I didn't bother with it.

I've spent way too much time in strip clubs. I've known lot of strippers, in the US, at a time and place where nothing happened at the club. Had 3 different strippers rent my spare room from me. At that time practically everyone in the club was my friend.

Do you know what happens if a dancer only asks for tips from guys who act interested? They don't make any money. If they don't make money, they don't come to work. If they don't come to work you end up with only the old, fat and ugly girls working. And then all the cheap ass pricks can't understand why the club doesn't have better dancers.

It's ridiculously easy. However, it only works if you're not going to be a pissed off, whining douche bag. If you're going to walk around with a shit attitude you're going to have only shit experiences.

When a girl comes offstage she makes the rounds. Rather than trying to memorize every person in the club and categorize them by displayed interest (not an easy task in a crowded club where you're in the light and they're in the dark), account for customers who are moving around, ir might be in the bathroom, they just make the rounds and ask everyone. They ask, because if they don't ask they don't get paid.

Instead of getting pissed off because they are trying to get paid for doing the exact thing you came to see, you only need to do 1 of 2 things.

1. You turn towards the girl, spread your legs and pull a 2 k bill out of your pocket. Hold the bill in your hand and see how hard she will work to get it. Once you're done getting a feel, slip the 2 k bill into her panties and she'll move on. You just spent a whopping 40 cents, so recalculate to determine how many seconds you'll need to work to recoup such an extravagant expenditure. Meanwhile, wait for the next one.

2. You turn towards the girl, shake your head slightly and say "no gracias. " It takes 1 second. Over the course of an hour, you might have to spend several minutes looking at girls and deciding if you're interested enough, or enjoyed the show enough to hand over 40 cents.

The really crazy part is, you're in the club looking for girls you might be interested in, but when the girls come up, giving you the opportunity to see if you're interested, you get pissed off because they're asking for the price of a stick of gum for dancing around naked for 10 minutes. Meanwhile, the girls who you would be interested in are talking in the dressing room with the girls hearing about the pissed off gringo who won't tip anyone.

I'm not acting like you're the one being ridiculous. You're being ridiculous. They're hookers with slightly better shoes. They're not Behavioral Analysts, they're not mind readers, just dancers trying to make a living. The only way they know if you're interested is if they come over and ask. Unless you're drooling like a Saint Bernard and humping their leg they can't tell if you're interested or not. A system where the girls all sit around waiting for guys to tell them they're interested is a system where customers don't spend any money and girls don't make any money. It's also a system where clubs don't make any money.

[Bill]

It's funny you say this because actually about a week ago I had went to the veracruz church area with exactly 30 mil in my wallet (I also had 10 mil hidden to have food and bus money) and anyways I went up to several chicas asking cuanto cobras? I found a halfway decent looking one that said 30 mil to which I replied "pero solo tengo exactamente 30 mil" and I even pulled out my wallet and showed her the 20 mil and 10 mil bills that I had. And then I was like "vamos o no?" and she replied "esta bien vamos" she took me to brisas de jardin around the corner there across from the panaderia. It ended up being 10 k for the pieza and 20 k for her and she even gave me BBBJ without me even asking for it. Then we had condom sex. The session was still pretty decent and I was able to finish.

So actually it can be 30 k even including the room. However I do agree this is not the norm and I was quite surprised myself.

So technically not false information.

In my experience you met a local paisa girl from Medellin (non- venezuelan) and paid the locals price which does not include a gringo tip. Great job.

[Surfer500]

It's funny you say this because actually about a week ago I had went to the veracruz church area with exactly 30 mil in my wallet (I also had 10 mil hidden to have food and bus money) and anyways I went up to several chicas asking cuanto cobras? I found a halfway decent looking one that said 30 mil to which I replied "pero solo tengo exactamente 30 mil" and I even pulled out my wallet and showed her the 20 mil and 10 mil bills that I had. And then I was like "vamos o no?" and she replied "esta bien vamos" she took me to brisas de jardin around the corner there across from the panaderia. It ended up being 10 k for the pieza and 20 k for her and she even gave me BBBJ without me even asking for it. Then we had condom sex. The session was still pretty decent and I was able to finish.

So actually it can be 30 k even including the room. However I do agree this is not the norm and I was quite surprised myself.

So technically not false information.

Not really that surprising at all.

I've seen dozens of what I call "failed negotiations" in Centro, as a lot of the locals, at least the cheap charlies just make offers as to what they will pay the girls, and it's normal for guys to throw out a 20 mil quote, not including the room, and eventually they will get someone who will take it, but granted these are not the the beauty queens taking them up on this.

I suppose one could make the argument that you overpaid by a few mil if you had chosen a lower tier room.

Lots of times girls show up in Centro and if they haven't snagged a customer by the time they have to leave, they will accept a low ball offer which sounds like what may of happened to you, but again what transpired is not that abnormal at least for locals versus foreigners.

What Jb2 was referencing in his post is what I call the "rack rate" or the default rate quoted to locals.

I guess the mind blowing part of all of this is that you basically paid $ 5 USD to get sucked and fucked.

[Mtndew704]

Dude there's only so much of the forum I can read when 1 out of 20 posts is a report and the rest is people arguing over definitions of pros and semi pros and how much of a difference good chemistry makes etc etc. Could have avoided the mistakes if I read the entire forum. Cool. Still not going to.

There's a search function for a reason. Also not much as really changed in Medellin as far as mongering so don't expect people to keep repeating the same things over and over.

[Chicago85]

Did you miss the part where I said I was not into either of the dancers? I have no problem tipping girls I want attention from. That system makes sense and is consistent with them paying the club to work there. But if I didn't even watch you dancer and I don't want any attention from her, and I paid a cover to get in and overpaid for a drink, then no, they don't deserve a tip. Like I said it's not about the money, it's about the principle. I have to tip the bartender to get small bills to tip girls that I don't want attention from just for doing their job? Stop trying to act like I'm the one being ridiculous. The system is stupid.

You do know that the girls talk amongst each other and will think you're a cheap ass if you're not tipping their friends correct? Perhaps you don't care which is fair. I just tip all of them a base 2 k as they're working hard and if I want a little bit more attention I'll do 4 k or 6 k in strategically placed places allowing me to get to know them better. The girls know that they will get a tip from me so they come with a smile on their face and usually try to work hard for a little bit more. They sit and chat in between sets. Yes, I know I'm paying for company, but it breeds jealously and competition amongst them. Life is too short.

[Gabacho]

A little more than two years ago during the lockdown the US dollar reached a record high of 4,000 pesos. About one year ago the US dollar reached 4,000 again. You know where it is now. There are contracted costs like residential leases, gym memberships, and Internet subscriptions that don't increase. Food costs are up. A roast chicken at Exito used to cost 13,000, now it's 18,000. When it was 13,000 the dollar was at 4,000. Now the 18.000 chicken with the peso at 5,000 costs less than US $0. 25 more than it used to. You don't need to be concerned. Moving on to casas, most of them have increased in cost by 5,000 pesos, about 10% to 15% more while the value of the US vs. The peso has increased by more than 20%. You don't need to be concerned about that either.

My rent is the same 500 mil per month but I'm in a lease so it can't change. The cost of the 1.75 liter coca cola at D1 used to be 3950 pesos and now it's 4500. I've noticed prices in food have gone up a little. The metro is still 2580 if you have a personalized civica card and I believe 2830 if you have the eventual card. Centro street girls prices haven't changed at all.

[Gabacho]

And 30 k for sex in El Centro doesn't include the cost of the room. Stop spreading false information.

It's funny you say this because actually about a week ago I had went to the veracruz church area with exactly 30 mil in my wallet (I also had 10 mil hidden to have food and bus money) and anyways I went up to several chicas asking cuanto cobras? I found a halfway decent looking one that said 30 mil to which I replied "pero solo tengo exactamente 30 mil" and I even pulled out my wallet and showed her the 20 mil and 10 mil bills that I had. And then I was like "vamos o no?" and she replied "esta bien vamos" she took me to brisas de jardin around the corner there across from the panaderia. It ended up being 10 k for the pieza and 20 k for her and she even gave me BBBJ without me even asking for it. Then we had condom sex. The session was still pretty decent and I was able to finish.

So actually it can be 30 k even including the room. However I do agree this is not the norm and I was quite surprised myself.

So technically not false information.

[Gabacho]

So wait, you have all of la Isla girls come by you and flash their stuff. You give everyone 2,000 cop and this means you spend 100,000 COP during the entire evening. About $20 usd. LOL That SUCKS.

No where in the USA can you do this without the bouncer slapping you around for what I'm thinking you will be doing when he is not watching. WAIT, no one cares about contact in La Isla. Sucks.

BTW many times I have gotten change for my HUGE 100,000 COP note so I can tip wandering dancers.

Meanwhile there are tables full of "weekend warriors" possibly next to the stage who are have 10 X more fun than you ever had in your life. SUCKS again.

I will be there November. I think I will double that tip. Hell make it $1 per girl!

Yes giving away your money for free even if it's 2 mil at a time fucking sucks but hey different strokes for different folks. And comparing medellin to anywhere in the US simply doesn't make any sense, there are many things you can do here that you can't do in the US, it's apples to oranges. And for your information I've been here since August and it already is November, and I didn't do it by making it rain in stupid strip clubs. And I seriously doubt you have had more fun than me, albeit we may have a different definition of what fun is, how many of these strip club girls have you barebacked? How many stay with you for a week straight like a girlfriend? How many have you traveled with thru Colombia to different pueblos by bus? Yea I think we have different definitions of what fun is and I seriously doubt you have had more fun than I have had in Colombia.

[Nil Admirari]

I hate to be that guy, but all of this is in the forum. Also, I was at Fase II last night (Thursday) and they charge 30 k cover. I'm not sure if that's based on night or just the new cover for all nights.

I'm back in Hometown, USA, now but I vaguely recall from my Medellin foray in August / September that Fase II had begun to charge the higher 30 k cover on Thursday through Saturday nights, but had left the entry charge unchanged other nights. I think on those three busier nights they had also started to insist on a relatively hefty (by Medellin standards) minimum drink order.

[Knowledge]

A little more than two years ago during the lockdown the US dollar reached a record high of 4,000 pesos. About one year ago the US dollar reached 4,000 again. You know where it is now. There are contracted costs like residential leases, gym memberships, and Internet subscriptions that don't increase. Food costs are up. A roast chicken at Exito used to cost 13,000, now it's 18,000. When it was 13,000 the dollar was at 4,000. Now the 18.000 chicken with the peso at 5,000 costs less than US $0. 25 more than it used to. You don't need to be concerned. Moving on to casas, most of them have increased in cost by 5,000 pesos, about 10% to 15% more while the value of the US vs. The peso has increased by more than 20%. You don't need to be concerned about that either.

My buddy just texted me that he got 5000+ cop per USD out of the ATM. Unfortunately I am not in Colombia at this moment. Have prices gone up for food and rent noticeablly in the past 2 months as well? And how is mongering like now, still same rates at casas?

[Knowledge]

I'm with you. If I can't afford to lose something or have it stolen then I don't want to own it. Life is short.

Man up. Don't let somebody punk you out of carrying your usual phone.