Medellin Reports

[Dcrist0527]

I think helping out for a time may be a good thing. But there is a huge problem with getting in and not being able to get out. The issue is that the lifestyle of the gal and her child or children will rapidly change. And I'm not talking anything extravagant necessarily. I know from experience how this works. Gal 1 moved into a better apartment, still basic, but better. And gave up prostitution. Got a civi job. Problem. Big big shortfall in money for basic needs, food, rent, etc. Etc. So I continue to help. Guess what. Lifetime commitment, or in some cases just too much to afford. Believe me there is no good way to exit. People get hurt very very badly. I could elaborate but I won't. You may be helping the greatest gal in the world, you may be in love, whatever. But the minute their life improves with your contributions those contributions become a necessity. If your pocketbook is deep enough and you have the intention of a permanent connection, ok perhaps. But only if you have a lot of extra cash and are prepared to make a real relationship out of it if it comes to that.

Some really good advice here. I'm a guy who made a relationship work for a couple years. The key is the relationship. There is no such thing as temporary help. As Zeos said, "help" provides an increase in standard of living. But they get accustomed to that and need your continued help. The example Zeos gives is very common.

With a relationship, it can work. But even that has challenges, depending on the living situation. But great advice, Zeos.

[JackTaggart]

Chica tried to insist she meant $200 usd not 200 k pesos LOL. Needless to say she left with the 200 k smh.

I feel like I reached a milestone yesterday. Sort of proud of myself. I walked from a session yesterday that I was very much looking for because I had visited before. She was almost 20 minutes late in letting me into the apartment. Then said she couldn't do an hour because she had to leave in 40 minutes. So I asked about the reduced rate / medio and it was the same as the hour. So I just said no gracias and walked. If she had apologized for the poor communication around letting me in I would have handled it differently probably. I figured I probably wouldn't have a good time at that point anyways.

[Mr Enternational]

Chica tried to insist she meant $200 usd not 200 k pesos LOL. Needless to say she left with the 200 k smh.

Ask her how much the average Colombian makes in a month. Then when she answers say and you seriously think someone is going to give you 900,000 pesos for a couple of hours? Since 200 sounds like a low number for currency for them, they think it is nothing to us.

[Surfer500]

Chica tried to insist she meant $200 usd not 200 k pesos LOL. Needless to say she left with the 200 k smh.

Perhaps you can clarify where you met this Chica, because it doesn't sound like a Centro street hoe.

[Mtndew704]

Chica tried to insist she meant $200 usd not 200 k pesos LOL. Needless to say she left with the 200 k smh.

[Mr Enternational]

If your pocketbook is deep enough and you have the intention of a permanent connection, ok perhaps. But only if you have a lot of extra cash and are prepared to make a real relationship out of it if it comes to that.

By real relationship do you mean one where you routinely send money and get nothing except a smaller bank account and a warm and fuzzy feeling inside in return?

[Mr Enternational]

The only difference I see is if you help someone when your not there, you are doing smthg more altruistic. If you only help someone when your present, then it's a more selfish act. Or did I miss smthg?

Yes. But that is not to say that being selfish is a bad thing. I love McDonald's, but if they are going under am I going to send money to help keep the company afloat or am I only interested in helping McDonald's out when I am there in person getting burgers and fries for the money I am handing over? With that said, if I was starving to death would McDonald's rush over with a couple of free Big Macs? Probably not.

If he was there horny as a horndog with no money, would the chick (assuming she is a hooker) rush over to give him some free pussy? Probably not.

[Zeos1]

Can I ask, what is the material difference? Surely, if you want to help someone, you just help them, no?

The only difference I see is if you help someone when your not there, you are doing smthg more altruistic. If you only help someone when your present, then it's a more selfish act. Or did I miss smthg?

I think helping out for a time may be a good thing. But there is a huge problem with getting in and not being able to get out. The issue is that the lifestyle of the gal and her child or children will rapidly change. And I'm not talking anything extravagant necessarily. I know from experience how this works. Gal 1 moved into a better apartment, still basic, but better. And gave up prostitution. Got a civi job. Problem. Big big shortfall in money for basic needs, food, rent, etc. Etc. So I continue to help. Guess what. Lifetime commitment, or in some cases just too much to afford. Believe me there is no good way to exit. People get hurt very very badly. I could elaborate but I won't. You may be helping the greatest gal in the world, you may be in love, whatever. But the minute their life improves with your contributions those contributions become a necessity. If your pocketbook is deep enough and you have the intention of a permanent connection, ok perhaps. But only if you have a lot of extra cash and are prepared to make a real relationship out of it if it comes to that.

[MoonShot]

Can I ask, what is the material difference? Surely, if you want to help someone, you just help them, no?

The only difference I see is if you help someone when your not there, you are doing smthg more altruistic. If you only help someone when your present, then it's a more selfish act. Or did I miss smthg?

What I meant is that a girl needs money, you are in Medellin, I say come on over and I'll help you out. She comes over and takes care of my needs and she gets money to pay for her expenses. It is not altruistic in any way. Am I helping them out? Yes because she gets the money but she has to work for it.

When I am in the USA, and a girl needs money and asks me for money, I don't get anything in return. Now some think they are being altruistic when they sent money but you are no Mother Teresa when you only give money to hot young girls who have sex with you or are going to have sex with you. Usually charitable donations do not have those guidelines involved.

I tell the girls that I will help them out when I am there and they have to wait. The girls don't want to lose a client on a future trip so they usually just accept that answer and still see you.

[JustTK]

So for myself, I just hold true to a simple mantra, as the fellow board member would say, never send money to a girl. But by all means, help her out when you are there and she is taking care of you.

Can I ask, what is the material difference? Surely, if you want to help someone, you just help them, no?

The only difference I see is if you help someone when your not there, you are doing smthg more altruistic. If you only help someone when your present, then it's a more selfish act. Or did I miss smthg?

[Balboa]

This is great advice that should be followed for all countries. Pretty much, every girl you stay in contact with will have money issues and will ask you for money eventually. It is a heavy guilt trip that they will lay on you. No money for rent, mother in the hospital, need meds for the baby, no food to eat, sick and need meds, electricity cut off, will be homeless soon. It may be true but you are not her family or boyfriend or anyone she actually cares about.

I don't mind giving a girl money to help her out when I am in country and I always tell them that I don't send money but I can help you when I am there if you take care of me.

Now sending a little bit of money is not a big deal money wise but the problem becomes that she will continue to ask for money in the future because there will always be money issues with these girls. So sending money once will start a cycle of money requests in the future for even worse financial problems.

So for myself, I just hold true to a simple mantra, as the fellow board member would say, never send money to a girl. But by all means, help her out when you are there and she is taking care of you.

All great advice in general.

I follow my own rules, however.

I know who is deserving and who's playing or trying to play me.

Girls are in different buckets of our particular friendships / relationships.

If I help out a particular girl who I have a great relationship with, and who I believe is deserving, I help out, and I really don't care what she uses the money for.

If she happens to get too "give me give me" later, I just say No if I want. It's not difficult.

I've been fortunate in my life, I don't mind helping out deserving people.

I'm not a moron though, Lol.

I can figure out who's who in this game we play.

Peace.

[Balboa]

I have been mongering longer than many of those here have been alive and have been fortunate enough to have lived in prime time for mongering in places at their prime time. Cuba, Costa Rica. But before that, there was Venezuela. Before the political cluster fuck that ruined the country. In the 90's, Venezuela was the prime spot for fishing and the most beautiful women in the world. Back then, they were $ a throw in 1990 dollars!!! The fact that they have been displaced as they have to Columbia
Snook.

Colombia O. Good synopsis.

[MoonShot]

About a year ago I posted what I called Villainy's Rules .

I won't repost them again (do I hear a collective sigh of relief?

Rule 3 A.

Never send money to a girl you don't know. This should be an absolute. First and foremost you can't be sure you're sending it to a girl. That's right it may be a guy with some girl's / model's photos. You might even discover this by using the on-line program called "Tin-Eye". Nevertheless, even if it really is a girl. You don't know her, so why would you ever consider sending her money? If you are really desperate, send me the money and I'll send you some naked pictures (of a girl, of course) jajajaja and you can fantasize all you want. OK Mr. Admin. That was a joke.

Rule 3 B.

I just got this one jammed up by rosy red bunghole.

Never send money to a girl you do know.

This is great advice that should be followed for all countries. Pretty much, every girl you stay in contact with will have money issues and will ask you for money eventually. It is a heavy guilt trip that they will lay on you. No money for rent, mother in the hospital, need meds for the baby, no food to eat, sick and need meds, electricity cut off, will be homeless soon. It may be true but you are not her family or boyfriend or anyone she actually cares about.

I don't mind giving a girl money to help her out when I am in country and I always tell them that I don't send money but I can help you when I am there if you take care of me.

Now sending a little bit of money is not a big deal money wise but the problem becomes that she will continue to ask for money in the future because there will always be money issues with these girls. So sending money once will start a cycle of money requests in the future for even worse financial problems.

So for myself, I just hold true to a simple mantra, as the fellow board member would say, never send money to a girl. But by all means, help her out when you are there and she is taking care of you.

[Mtndew704]

Is Hotel Nutribar still open or temporarily closed It seems to be book up through the rest of the year, IDK.

It's open, I'm here right now.

[LebaneseBlonde]

Is Hotel Nutribar still open or temporarily closed It seems to be book up through the rest of the year, IDK.

It's still open was going to stay there before settling on hotel gallery because it has a jacuzzi? Anyone know if Hotel Gallery is guest friendly?