Medellin Reports

[DontSayMuch]

Seems the forum is a little dry, so I'll add some spice to it. Ill come out from hiding. Sorry, no barrio stories this time. Not yet hehe. But there's definitely a barrio twist to this. So, about a month ago I hit up Loutron [Deleted by Admin]) with a recently divorced high school buddy of mine. This was his first maiden trip to Medellin and to South America in general. He speaks very little Spanish despite the fact his ex-wife is Mexican. He's also Asian in his late 30's. I haven't been back to Loutron in like 7 or 8 years and I wanted to show him the creme de la creme in terms of casas. I'm not a Centro guy and I haven't hit a casa in years, but I wanted to see how Loutron is now compared to my last and only visit. It's also for nostalgia purposes.

But damn. I forgot it's way up in the hills in Las Palmas. The address is accurate and there's a gate entrance that clearly states the entire address, but it can be easily missed if you don't keep an eye out on the way up. You still have to drive up a rocky / dirt road for about 1-2 minutes and then reach the main mansion. The place is still what I remembered it with a nice and friendly mamasan, wide open space with a spiraling staircase, a lounge with a bar and girls walking around in their white labcoats. I didn't partake, but I think the prices were 380 mil for an hour, not exactly sure since I was there to spectate, not to participate. Girl quality was mid level to high end. There were about 10 girls, and I'll say 2 were super hotties IMO.

My buddy took one hottie. I declined since my style is usually BB everything and I know these girls will upsell from DFK to BBBJ. I waited while my buddy popped his first Colombian casa cherry albeit the exclusive and expensive kind. I decided to order a beer and got one as well for the other hottie. We ended up talking and asked her where she lives, surprisingly she said Bello. In my head, I'm like I got thissssss. Chino charm about to hit level 9,000 hehe. I told her I live in Bello too, we're neighbors! Of course, she didn't believe me. Then I proceeded to bust out my Bello barrio knowledge on her fine ass hehe. She was definitely surprised by how much I knew and the stuff that a typical gringo wouldn't know. I asked her what barrio she lives in, and when she told me Las Cabanas, it was checkmate. I know her barrio like the back of my hand and she was even more impressed. Needless to say, I got her number and the chance to hang out with her in Bello beats doing that in Las Palmas by miles in terms of distance and pricing as I would find out later. BTW, my buddy said his girl was fine as fuck, but everything was covered of course and very light kissing. Either way, he had a good time.

Fastforward to the following weekend, I hit up the Loutron girl and said I'll take her out to dinner, drinks and back to my apartment. There are some nice restaurants out here in Bello, obviously they're not up to Poblado standards, but at least you won't see gringos or gringo pricing. While on this topic, almost forgot to put out this gringo alert: Don't come out to Bello! It's too dangerous!! Ok, got that out the way hehe.

I asked her how much for the date, she said 350 mil. I countered with 250 mil and said DFK and BBBJ are a must. She said OK, game on! We had dinner and drinks in Obrero, shared many stories, and the chemistry was unreal. We hit up a nearby club, and drank and partied till around 1 am, then back to my apartment which was about a 5 minute cab ride. Her body was soft to the touch and her ass was bubblelicious. She started with BBBJ and we did multiple positions and finished with CIM, which was quite a surprise since I didn't ask for it in advance, it just happened on the spot and she didn't say no hehe. We chilled for another hour and she took indriver back to her spot afterwards. Damage was 250 mil plus 15 mil taxi for a 6 hour date.

A definite repeat, which in fact happened a couple times already since our first aforementioned date. A couple weeks later she invited me to a finca for her friend's birthday party, the pic of us at the finca. That's another story, for another time. Cheers everyone!

She's stunning and she sounds like a nice person, congrats!

[BootyBandit84]

How much are they quoting now? A price update would be very helpful now. I think all the girls know about USD-COP exchange rate increases.

Last few years, new FB girls always asked for like 300 k-350 k and I was always able to talk them down to a much lower price no problem. The last month or so several of them have asked 350 k-450 k and have been very reluctant to agree to any less. Mind you these are new girls. My usual girls never ask me for any specific amount anymore and are happy with what I give them. But it looks like new girls are trying to raise prices.

[RiceRocket99]

Seems the forum is a little dry, so I'll add some spice to it. Ill come out from hiding. Sorry, no barrio stories this time. Not yet hehe. But there's definitely a barrio twist to this. So, about a month ago I hit up Loutron (Calle 16 a Sur #9 E-500, whatsapp is 57-313XXXX517) with a recently divorced high school buddy of mine. This was his first maiden trip to Medellin and to South America in general. He speaks very little Spanish despite the fact his ex-wife is Mexican. He's also Asian in his late 30's. I haven't been back to Loutron in like 7 or 8 years and I wanted to show him the creme de la creme in terms of casas. I'm not a Centro guy and I haven't hit a casa in years, but I wanted to see how Loutron is now compared to my last and only visit. It's also for nostalgia purposes.

But damn. I forgot it's way up in the hills in Las Palmas. The address is accurate and there's a gate entrance that clearly states the entire address, but it can be easily missed if you don't keep an eye out on the way up. You still have to drive up a rocky / dirt road for about 1-2 minutes and then reach the main mansion. The place is still what I remembered it with a nice and friendly mamasan, wide open space with a spiraling staircase, a lounge with a bar and girls walking around in their white labcoats. I didn't partake, but I think the prices were 380 mil for an hour, not exactly sure since I was there to spectate, not to participate. Girl quality was mid level to high end. There were about 10 girls, and I'll say 2 were super hotties IMO.

My buddy took one hottie. I declined since my style is usually BB everything and I know these girls will upsell from DFK to BBBJ. I waited while my buddy popped his first Colombian casa cherry albeit the exclusive and expensive kind. I decided to order a beer and got one as well for the other hottie. We ended up talking and asked her where she lives, surprisingly she said Bello. In my head, I'm like I got thissssss. Chino charm about to hit level 9,000 hehe. I told her I live in Bello too, we're neighbors! Of course, she didn't believe me. Then I proceeded to bust out my Bello barrio knowledge on her fine ass hehe. She was definitely surprised by how much I knew and the stuff that a typical gringo wouldn't know. I asked her what barrio she lives in, and when she told me Las Cabanas, it was checkmate. I know her barrio like the back of my hand and she was even more impressed. Needless to say, I got her number and the chance to hang out with her in Bello beats doing that in Las Palmas by miles in terms of distance and pricing as I would find out later. BTW, my buddy said his girl was fine as fuck, but everything was covered of course and very light kissing. Either way, he had a good time.

Fastforward to the following weekend, I hit up the Loutron girl and said I'll take her out to dinner, drinks and back to my apartment. There are some nice restaurants out here in Bello, obviously they're not up to Poblado standards, but at least you won't see gringos or gringo pricing. While on this topic, almost forgot to put out this gringo alert: Don't come out to Bello! It's too dangerous!! Ok, got that out the way hehe.

I asked her how much for the date, she said 350 mil. I countered with 250 mil and said DFK and BBBJ are a must. She said OK, game on! We had dinner and drinks in Obrero, shared many stories, and the chemistry was unreal. We hit up a nearby club, and drank and partied till around 1 am, then back to my apartment which was about a 5 minute cab ride. Her body was soft to the touch and her ass was bubblelicious. She started with BBBJ and we did multiple positions and finished with CIM, which was quite a surprise since I didn't ask for it in advance, it just happened on the spot and she didn't say no hehe. We chilled for another hour and she took indriver back to her spot afterwards. Damage was 250 mil plus 15 mil taxi for a 6 hour date.

A definite repeat, which in fact happened a couple times already since our first aforementioned date. A couple weeks later she invited me to a finca for her friend's birthday party, the pic of us at the finca. That's another story, for another time. Cheers everyone!

[DontSayMuch]

Did you guys find a message template in the MS Word library or smthg?

I've been reading the forum for a few months and this type of message was suggested. The modifications are great though. I'll let people know how it goes and will upload reports next week and hopefully noobies might find it informative.

[DontSayMuch]

I would leave out "Sometimes I am bored and". To me, that is saying you're only considering her because you are bored.

Thanks for the input!

[Elvis 2008]

MB, I don't wish to pick on you all the time, but you write some really bizarre comments.

I agree that "Service depends on various factors" and "has nothing to do with how a girl looks". But then you say "Guys who say hot girls provide shitty service don't have what it takes (game, looks, money, etc)". This I find an incredible claim. If Guy X can has great sex w Chica Ugly (by your subjective claim), you think that Chica Hot will have different needs to Chica Ugly in the sack? On what grounds do you base that?

"great sex can only be possible if there is a great connection" now you sound like Elvis! Is this your alt profile?! The best sex I have had is with a girl in Pattaya that regularly bangs 10 guys per day. And the best I have in Col is w a Mileroticos girl that charges 60 mil.

Sorry, you are getting piled onto MB. That is the sport of this forum. It was funny to see Pile on Pauline get the pile on treatment when he dueled with JJBee. Pile on Pauline was actually in the right.

The funny part MB is if you said what you did anywhere but here, these dummies would be the ones getting skewered while you are one who would be getting praised.

I took the jabs from the insecure people here. Then I realized none of the guys mouthing off ever showed pics of any attractive women they were with which meant all the guys on the price police are fucking fat, ugly women. I can look at a pic of any woman in the USA and estimate how much she charges. But with these fools, the only thing that matters with price is location. They are actually trying to sell the notion that looks and performance do not matter. Since when?

And when I went for the better performing and looking women, I wondered if I was overpaying, but the prices were consistent. I even consulted with locals and saw I was not overpaying. I was just not fucking dogs at a discount. One guy said, "All women are in demand". Really? Guys are not willing to pay more for looks, personality, and performance. I repeat, since when? So you and I know these guys are totally full of shit right?

I get paying for sex. The truth is if you make a decent income, it is cheaper to pay. Hell, it is cheaper to fly to Colombia and pay for it than to have a wife or GF in the USA. I was so shell shocked after my divorce, the only way I could trust women at all was with a transaction, and I still feel that way with almost all American women. I have met only a small handful of beautiful American women who have not ridden their looks for money. My favorite line from one hottie was, "I am too pretty to work".

After the crazy trafficking laws, I went abroad. I found what I thought was a great gal and got engaged, but I still thought my only role as fiance was just to pay and was frustrated when she cut me off sexually. I was like I can see a ho for a whole lot less. Eventually, I caught in her a lie, and she broke it off. She told me that she felt like a ho. It took a long time and self reflection to realize that she was upset that I had a transactional feeling about our relationship.

As painful as the breakup was, a tremendously hot woman wanted me for more than money, and it boosted my confidence. That is something these clowns do not get. That boost in confidence was worth the heart break. Sure enough after that, I realized that there were other women who were not solely interested in me for money, and they tried to charm me with things other than their sexuality, and I was open to it. My current gal is one of the two most striking women I have seen, and one of the top dozen looks wise I have ever seen. I almost blew it with her because I thought no way a woman that hot would be interested in me. And now it is unreal. I have one of the best looking, best performing women in the world and she cannot get enough sex. The crazy part is she is more into the relationship than I am. She cries like a baby if she has to wait more than 3 weeks to have sex.

A buddy of mine told me when I was younger that guys think that a woman is the one, that no one is better than her, and there is always better, but I am older now. I know there is not better than what I have now. Still, as good as she is, I knew I would not get the best out of her unless I committed to her so after a few months, I did. I left behind amazing, beautiful, and incredibly performing women, and it was not easy giving them up, but I am glad I did.

And these guys? Have they found women this amazing and hot who fell for them and they gave up their ways and committed? No? What does that say about them then? No one in the outside world would look at me with my gal with Victoria Secret's dimensions on my arm adoring me and look at these single guys or guys with their hos and say, "You know, I do not know about this guy Elvis but these guys have it all figured out with women. " People can spot WGs a mile away, and these losers keep trying to say my gal is a ho. They are so clueless they do not even know the difference.

I get having to stay in the gutter. I had to do P4P as part of the healing process and be in the gutter too. I needed the transactional nature of P4P after my divorce, but I eventually realized there was better and unlike these guys, I kept trying to do better and so do you. I am glad you are not content hanging out in the gutters and trying to be king of them like these fools. You are smart to want out.

So yeah, MB, you are going to get hurt aiming high and unlike with these losers, you have to grow with the pain. If I had not had the painful breakups, I would not be where I am now. The best learning experiences I have had were the painful ones. I had to learn how to avoid getting hurt but to keep trying, and you do too. The gutter is enticing because it is almost pain free.

So MB, do not even listen to these guys. They are not just fucking losers but cowards. If you keep at it and learn from your experiences, you will get where I am. There is more to a man than his wallet and more to a woman than what is between her legs. You know you may have a keeper when a woman shows you she is trying to be more than just a good lay.

[DontSayMuch]

I wouldn't say your message is in poor form but I think you're shooting yourself in the dick a little bit. Why tell them you're visiting for a week? That tells them you're a tourist and you probably don't know the scene and so they start out asking for the triple rate. Afterall maybe you don't know what the fair market value is and you'll grab her offer out of hand.

I usually use a greeting like:

Hola Maria (substitute her name), mucho gusto. Me estoy quedando en un hotel bonito en Laureles (or Poblado or where ever you are staying). A veces estoy aburrido why me gustaria la compania de una mujer hermosa como tu. Podriamos planear una cita traviesa? Gracias.

Tienes WhatsApp? Mi numero es: +1 xxx yyy zzzz.

The last line is only needed if you want to switch your conversation to WhatsApp and so, it could be skipped.

If I didn't f* up my Spanish. It would loosely translate as follows:

Hello Maria, it's a pleasure to meet you. I am staying in a nice hotel in Laureles. Sometimes I am bored and I would like the company of a beautiful woman like you. Could we plan a naughty meeting? Thanks.

Do you have WhatsApp? My number is: +1 (xxx) yyy-zzzz.

That way she doesn't know if you are a visitor or a resident or what. I usually say I've been living in Medellin for 3 years but I don't think you need to say that. I usually get a response saying something like: Yes, when would you like to plan a visit. I don't usually initiate a discussion about pricing but I always plan on paying the FB girl 200 + taxis. Some will bring up the price, most of the girls I talk to don't. Some guys think it is better to bring it up to preclude any kind of misunderstanding. Your choice.

If you have some special kinks you want, that would involve another couple of sentences.

Deberia dicirte sobre mis preferencias.

I should tell you about my preferences. They will almost always say. Dime (tell me).

Thanks a bunch for the specificity! I obviously need it LOL. I'm going to try this on a couple other women and see if I can stop shooting my dick.

[JjBee62]

I found a midget on tinder, wish me luck boys.

I'm pretty sure you'll be nuts over her.

[Mtndew704]

I found a midget on tinder, wish me luck boys.

[JustTK]

ISurely not everyone has the same definition or rather same experience of what great sex is. Connecting with someone will not make them clairvoyant and know he loves getting his balls licked from the back or he hates getting his balls licked from the back. It is by pure chance that people are having this idea of great sex together.

Right. And not only that, but what works today might not work the same tomorrow. Depends on mood in the moment too.

[JustTK]

What you are saying is that attractive girls = shitty service. This is not always the case. Ugly girls can provide shitty service as well. Service has nothing to do with how a girl looks. Service depends on various factors. Her attitude, vibes, chemistry between you and her, ambiance of the place / venue, etc. Guys who say hot girls provide shitty service just don't know any better, they don't have what it takes (game, looks, money, etc) to score a hottie, and not only to score, but to make her like or love them, because great sex can only be possible if there is a great connection. Something that money alone can't always buy.

MB, I don't wish to pick on you all the time, but you write some really bizarre comments.

I agree that "Service depends on various factors" and "has nothing to do with how a girl looks". But then you say "Guys who say hot girls provide shitty service don't have what it takes (game, looks, money, etc)". This I find an incredible claim. If Guy X can has great sex w Chica Ugly (by your subjective claim), you think that Chica Hot will have different needs to Chica Ugly in the sack? On what grounds do you base that?

"great sex can only be possible if there is a great connection" – now you sound like Elvis! Is this your alt profile?! The best sex I have had is with a girl in Pattaya that regularly bangs 10 guys per day. And the best I have in Col is w a Mileroticos girl that charges 60 mil.

"but to make her. Love them" – and this is really off the deep end. Pray tell, why on Earth would you want to do that w a girl that your paying for sex?

One day, I will buy you a beer for the entertainment you provide. But I guess you wouldn't drink beer unless it uses water distilled from the secret rivers of Tibet or Mongolia.

[ILikeButts]

great sex can only be possible if there is a great connection.

100% disagree with this statement. Some of the best sex I've had was with girls I barely knew or had just met but something about them made me desire them deeply. I know this is probably a minority opinion, even here on a monger forum, LOL.

[JustTK]

This is very wierd. I send a message very similar to this when contacting a new FB girl.

Did you guys find a message template in the MS Word library or smthg?

[Fun Luvr]

Hello Maria, it's a pleasure to meet you. I am staying in a nice hotel in Laureles. Sometimes I am bored and I would like the company of a beautiful woman like you. Could we plan a naughty meeting? Thanks.

I would leave out "Sometimes I am bored and". To me, that is saying you're only considering her because you are bored.

[Mr Enternational]

great sex can only be possible if there is a great connection. Something that money alone can't always buy.

I have had plenty of great sex with chicks that I have just walked up to and said how much. I am not trying to jedi any prostitutes into connecting with me. There are plenty of chicks that are not prostitutes to get a great connection with. And guess what. I have had horrible sex with chicks that I have had a great connection with and great sex with chicks there was no connection at all with. The same as looks have nothing to do with service, the connection has nothing to do with great sex.

Besides, I am still looking for someone to define what great sex is. Surely not everyone has the same definition or rather same experience of what great sex is. The same as everybody not having the same idea of what a great hot dog is. Connecting with someone will not make them clairvoyant and know he loves getting his balls licked from the back or he hates getting his balls licked from the back. It is by pure chance that people are having this idea of great sex together.