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  1. #56608
    Quote Originally Posted by Nounce  [View Original Post]
    I think you let others influence you that you automatically choose the opposite position. What is the difference then?
    Quote Originally Posted by JjBee62  [View Original Post]
    I had no trouble finding an acceptable girl, but there were at least as many who didn't meet my standards. The inexperienced monger might be amazed at the price, but anyone who has been around understands that you don't base what you spend on what you would spend in the US. Otherwise we would all be paying $200 per night for 3 star accommodations instead of $50 or less.

    And there is no difference between a generic girl in La Isla and a generic girl in El Centro.
    Quote Originally Posted by RiceRocket99  [View Original Post]
    I guess the old saying comes to mind, it's his money and he can spend it however he likes. Just for contrast, I had 2 FB girls come to my northern suburb apartment couple days ago. Paid them 150 mil each plus taxis for a 3 some BBFS along with 2 pops! They stayed for around 5-6 hours. Happy hunting everybody!
    Nounce, look at these two posts. Ricerocket is helpful, describes the women he was with, and his experience. Anyone who reads the forum knows he lives at least part time in Medellin. He is not judging but providing information which is what the forum is for.

    Then you have JJBee and the "experienced" mongers and "quite wealthy" men (cough, cough). Why doesn't JJBee and everyone like him tell this guy to stay at Nutibarra which is $40 a night and not the Marriott which is $240? "Experienced" and "quite wealthy" men stay at the Nutti don't'cha know?

    Unlike other places I had mongered, the Colombia forums were fucked up when it came to pricing. I had to consult a local on this and it became pretty clear to me that the cut rate prices guys here talk about is for average looking women or less and in less than desirable places. With the possible exception of Cartagena, unless there is a listed price then can be easily verified, my rule of thumb is guys should expect to pay 2 or 3 the prices commonly bantered about here.

    So are the guys saying this guy GiuseppeBonera overpaid being helpful or are they cocky assholes beating their chest and mouthing off about what better and more "experienced" mongers they are?

    If you are coming into Medellin and have the money to stay at the Marriott, and you want to go to a place with the best chance you will find a girl you like, you should head to La Isla and if guys are being helpful, they should give a range of prices from that place. If you do not know the prices for takeout or have never done it from there, then shut the fuck about whether someone overpaid. You are being just as worthless as saying the guy overpaid for his hotel room or for his beer at La Isla.

  2. #56607
    What does non pro mean? Asking for a friend who is a board member.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nclpimp  [View Original Post]
    Non pro. Had to sweet talk her for hours during her shift, took her out dancing to laureles and drinking. But her place is now hosting like an event with pros.

  3. #56606
    Quote Originally Posted by PolloNegro  [View Original Post]
    if a person has the means to spend what they want to spend to achieve what they want to achieve what makes them crazy?
    Yeah but if everyone is coming on saying they paid $20 for their ISG membership then one guy comes on and talks about he paid $400 for 2 ISG memberships, people are bound to say dude, not well as long as you were able to get an ISG membership.

  4. #56605

    I hooked up with a bartender here

    Non pro. Had to sweet talk her for hours during her shift, took her out dancing to laureles and drinking. But her place is now hosting like an event with pros.
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  5. #56604
    Quote Originally Posted by MiamiBoy1  [View Original Post]
    I've been to El Centro countless times and never seen a girl above 7 on a good day. Most of them being in the 5 to 6 range, average or below average looking. Same applies to Lleras. True beauties will always find other ways or venues to make much more money than working El Centro streets or the park. No matter the place, street working girls are always bottom feeders. Low end casa girls are in the same boat, just being less exposed. The difference is not only in the looks, but also in other things, like education, social skills, ability to speak a foreign language, self confidence, values and goals in life. You won't find (most likely) a college student wanting to become a doctor or lawyer selling her pussy in El Centro streets, but you can find her on Facebook or SA, for example, or at a place like La Isla.

    I agree with Elvis, if one has high standards and is looking for gorgeous, intelligent women, one has to look elsewhere, and pay accordingly, or, alternatively, try a non pro scene. La Isla used to be good, but not anymore, I see very few doable girls every time I go there, but maybe I've just been out of luck.
    I guess I'm weird. When I'm looking for a girl to fuck, I don't require a resume, education background, relevant experience and 3 personal references. I don't care if she can speak 6 languages, or only 1. I don't understand how anyone has the time to arrange multiple interviews and background checks for a piece of ass that you'll probably never see again.

    1. Does she look like someone I want to fuck?

    2. Does she look like she'll be an entertaining fuck?

    3. Is she willing to fuck at a price I'm comfortable with?

    No need to call previous employers, no need to check her school transcripts and no need to find out where she sees herself in 5 years.

    I'm having trouble believing you've been to El Centro countless times. From about the beginning of August 2017 to mid March 2018 I was in El Centro nearly every day, often twice a day. I've been several times since. While I don't know the exact number, 250 times is a reasonable estimate. In all those times I've never seen a 5, 6 or 7. They don't carry signs stating their official beauty rating and without knowing the official beauty rating committee, I have no idea what the "experts" have decided.

    I have seen women who I wouldn't fuck, ever, even if they were paying me. I've also seen many girls who I would happily pay over Facebook rates. The same is true in the casas. There are usually 1 or 2 who look damn fine.

    Now, I'm not a Centro rat. Casas seldom appeal to me. These days even Facebook makes me yawn. However, I've seen the truth and anyone who claims all the Centro girls are ugly is living a lie.

    The only time a girl's education, and other achievements is important to me is if I'm considering her for something beyond just a quick fuck. And if I'm looking for more than a quick fuck I would never look at La Isla, or on SA.

    She can be fluent in 10 languages and have multiple PhD's, but if she's working at La Isla, or advertising on SA, she's selling pussy. She might be selling pussy for a higher price, she might accept alternative payment terms, but you're always going to be dealing with someone who sees sex as a marketable commodity. In simpler terms I have no interest in turning a hooker into a housewife.

  6. #56603
    Quote Originally Posted by Surfer500  [View Original Post]
    RamDavidson84,

    Depending on where you go fishing, 400,000 pesos can be a Chica fantasy, and a Colombian local would think your nuts for paying a Chica that kind of money.

    Putting things in perspective, the Colombian minimum salary is about 1 million Pesos a month, so you Chica earned almost two weeks salary for perhaps a few hours of time.

    I'm not saying you got hosed by this Chica, your post illustrates the "shark" attitude of the Chicas there, but you can't blame the them for asking for $ 200 USD for an hour.

    I would do the same, and I can see some of the girls getting that amount of money easily.

    However I wouldn't characterize the guys paying that kind of money as assholes..
    Haha, I meant the asshole comment in a joking around sort of, sorry if it came off as harsh. In all seriousness though, I would never tell a man what to do with his money. If a guy did drop a million on a chica out of Gustos, then god bless him if that was his only way out. I just wanted to make it clear that most nights in Gustos and Parque Lleras, the girls greatly out number the guys and it's very easy to negotiate a more reasonable price. My rule of thumb is 400 k per hour and 600 k multi hour in Gustos. I am an in person more guy more than an online person, so for me I got to pay a bit more.

    I know you can score some very cheap talent in Centro, but the risk to reward isn't worth it for me. Speaking of risk, even roaming Parque Lleras and other spots late at night doesn't feel totally safe. I saw several bad street fights there, as well as multiple fights in Cartagena. Not guys shouting, not two guys squaring up, but multiple people banging the fuck out with police waiting for back up to break up the chaos on several occasions. I also want to warn people that you cannot act a fool at all in Parque Lleras / Cartagena, especially if you are solo.

    I didn't start my mongering career until 2018 and I am really jealous that the old school guys got to experience all of this stuff in the days before youtube and WhatsApp and all the other shit that has diminished the game. Must have been incredible Surfer.

  7. #56602
    Quote Originally Posted by Elvis2008  [View Original Post]
    Like I said in my 10 rules of the Medellin forum, if you pay anything over $20, you are going to get criticized.
    I think you let others influence you that you automatically choose the opposite position. What is the difference then?

  8. #56601
    Quote Originally Posted by JjBee62  [View Original Post]

    As far as La Isla being the greatest collection of beauties in Colombia, I found it to just be decent. I had no trouble finding an acceptable girl, but there were at least as many who didn't meet my standards. However, when it comes to strip clubs in Medellin, nowhere else can match the overall experience.

    Several times now you've made disparaging remarks about the girls in El Centro, as if every one is the same. No matter where you go, El Centro or La Isla, Facebook or SA, you'll find a wide range of women, from butt ugly to gorgeous. Thirty minutes in El Centro or anywhere else will prove that. Unless you're watching who everyone else is picking up, you have no idea whether they're fucking 4's or 9's (for those who use a scale), and that applies to La Isla and El Centro.

    And there is no difference between a generic girl in La Isla and a generic girl in El Centro. Any day of the week you can find a girl working the street in El Centro who will rival the best in La Isla.
    I've been to El Centro countless times and never seen a girl above 7 on a good day. Most of them being in the 5 to 6 range, average or below average looking. Same applies to Lleras. True beauties will always find other ways or venues to make much more money than working El Centro streets or the park. No matter the place, street working girls are always bottom feeders. Low end casa girls are in the same boat, just being less exposed. The difference is not only in the looks, but also in other things, like education, social skills, ability to speak a foreign language, self confidence, values and goals in life. You won't find (most likely) a college student wanting to become a doctor or lawyer selling her pussy in El Centro streets, but you can find her on Facebook or SA, for example, or at a place like La Isla.

    I agree with Elvis, if one has high standards and is looking for gorgeous, intelligent women, one has to look elsewhere, and pay accordingly, or, alternatively, try a non pro scene. La Isla used to be good, but not anymore, I see very few doable girls every time I go there, but maybe I've just been out of luck.

  9. #56600

    Yes, that's exactly how you frame it

    Quote Originally Posted by Eloket  [View Original Post]
    Yeah, the mother was discharged and now needs medecine. Go figure. Well, if she agrees to see me again I can help her with her mothers medecine.
    Tell her you will help her after she sees you. She has to earn it first, but don't tell it to her like that. And don't give her extra for the medicine, just pay her FMV (Fair Market Value).

    I often say something like, "I'm sorry if what I paid you is not enough to pay for your (rent, mother's medicine, servicios, etc) but at least I can help."

    Make it all sound altruistic and you are doing it because of the generally kind and warm-hearted person you are. The better she can feel about herself after she leaves you, the better it is for all concerned parties.

    I feel quite certain you get this already, but a lot of the times my answers are framed for the general readership, and not just the guy who posted.

  10. #56599

    I strongly second that emotion

    Quote Originally Posted by PolloNegro  [View Original Post]
    It's always funny to see how other men judge other men simply on the statements that they make. Some men can make statements about money and others will say that they're broke, others will make statements about money and others will call them crazy, but if a person has the means to spend what they want to spend to achieve what they want to achieve what makes them crazy? This is supposed to be a group of men chatting about how to locate and achieve dates with girls in Colombia.

    One thing that I can attest to is that after meeting certain board members you never know how deep one's pockets are and what one has saved up to achieve in their golden years of life. I will say this, you should always spend your money on what you want and achieve the experience that you're trying to achieve, let no one else's experience deter you or influence what you are trying to achieve. Pollo Negro is out!
    Glad to see you are back.

    I have my perennial date with GZGTG this early afternoon. I prepped her mainly because I like Dirty Talk and not so much because I am into predictions, by telling her I was going to spray my leche all over her face and take fotos, so maybe I will have something a little different for you all later tonight, jeje.

    She agreed of course, without hesitation.

  11. #56598

    Yep

    Quote Originally Posted by JjBee62  [View Original Post]
    And there is no difference between a generic girl in La Isla and a generic girl in El Centro. Any day of the week you can find a girl working the street in El Centro who will rival the best in La Isla.
    They are essentially the same girls, from the same strata one and two barrios or Venezuelana refugees. Just the former group has acquired silicone and better clothes thus qualifying as "high end. ".

    And there's a lot of dimensions to Centro, casas, strip clubs, and street. "Glue sniffers" would be virtually non-existent in the first two groups. For recreation they'd drink and smoke weed, and maybe half would do Tusi. Elvis knows nothing about Centro and is even often wrong about the "high end" scene making me confident that his time in the City of Eternal Spring has been sparse to non-existent.

  12. #56597

    Day 9

    Took a lazy morning then went circling around Centro. Tried to find the chicka I met the other day. Didn't see her. I was there a bit earlier this time. As I hear it's a "shift change" at 3-4 pm. I'll try a little later today.

    Called in the Morena I had the other day at my hotel. The one that enjoyed the Jacuzzi a lot. I haven't had any issues after our BB experience so I opted for another one. Hard to keep up the convo this time but the mirror and some music made up for that. Pretty much the same encounter as the last time. Biggest difference was that I put my load on her stomach this time. I thought I knew what I was paying for and got just what I expected.

    Today I have a FB girl lined up. Her profile pics are really nice. Offered dinner and hang out at my apartment.

    Popeye is waking up after the down.

  13. #56596

    So we are counting each others pockets now

    It's always funny to see how other men judge other men simply on the statements that they make. Some men can make statements about money and others will say that they're broke, others will make statements about money and others will call them crazy, but if a person has the means to spend what they want to spend to achieve what they want to achieve what makes them crazy? This is supposed to be a group of men chatting about how to locate and achieve dates with girls in Colombia.

    One thing that I can attest to is that after meeting certain board members you never know how deep one's pockets are and what one has saved up to achieve in their golden years of life. I will say this, you should always spend your money on what you want and achieve the experience that you're trying to achieve, let no one else's experience deter you or influence what you are trying to achieve. Pollo Negro is out!

  14. #56595
    Quote Originally Posted by Nounce  [View Original Post]
    It maybe a bargain with BBBJ but it's a lousy deal for most who want BBBJ.
    Like I said in my 10 rules of the Medellin forum, if you pay anything over $20, you are going to get criticized.

  15. #56594
    Quote Originally Posted by Osteoknot  [View Original Post]
    The sick mother story is one of the most common. If she gets back in touch with you it will be because her mother got discharged from the hospital and now needs medicine or her bleeding won't stop. I heard that one more than a few times.
    Yeah, the mother was discharged and now needs medecine. Go figure. Well, if she agrees to see me again I can help her with her mothers medecine.

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