Medellin Reports

[AdamWl]

I finished my work and felt outgoing so I began to think which chica from the roster to choose, if any. Flaky vennie popped in my mind. It's been more than a week since I've seen her. I sent an Hola to test the responsiveness and got an instant reply.

Last time I sessioned with her I paid 60 for hh in the strip club (scheduling a session outside the club earlier turned into a complete waste of time-she quoted me 100 for an hour and didn't show up). I decided to try again nonetheless. I asked her whether she'd prefer to meet me in a club for 60 mil for 30 min, or in a hotel for 60 mil for an hour. Predictably she voted for the hotel. She also asked if I'll pay for her taxi, to which I said yes.

This time she was only 10 minutes late which is reasonable considering the afternoon traffic, and she was sending me photos with the status updates on the way. It seems my complaints, jokes and a bit of cold shoulder finally got through to her.

I gave her 20 mil to pay the driver and she brought me 9 back. She dressed in civilian clothes. Ripped jeans and baggy hoodie. Still, we turned some heads in the hotel lobby, I assume due to the contrast between my aged gringo mug and her baby face. Underneath she wore a skimpy black two-piece. I paid the room, 18 mil for 3 h, left 2 mil tip.

OK, music on, shower, and we're off to the races.

Foreplay, bareback BJ, then cover on. DFK, several positions, light choking both ways, some hair pulling and scratching. Good passionate session, no clock watching. Seems like she got off herself at least twice (or cared to pretend so convincingly jaja). We share a drink, some snacks, talk a bit. I give her the money plus 7 mil for taxi back that she asked for, little propina and I take some photos (attached).

Earlier I considered the possibility of inviting her to my place but the way she moaned at particular times would definitely bother my neighbours since the front door sound isolation is less than satisfactory (plus I did promise the owner "no fiestas".

She couldn't get a driver to accept the ride to her place, not sure what was the app. I tried cabify on my phone (I don't have anything else, I used taxi only once on the ride form the airport). No takers either. We went outside looking for a taxi on the corner. No luck. The hustler from Yakusa with a shiner got involved and started whistling and waving to haul some. Nope. They just drove past. Finally, some older gentlemen approached, talked with Flaky and they agreed on a ride.

Civilian unmarked car, I noted the license plate which I sent to Flaky and asked her to let me know once she arrives safely (which she confirmed after 10 minutes). I gave the Yakusa guy 2 mil for his efforts, bumped fists and I took a walk back home. Bought some bananas from the street vendor on the way (6 for 2 mil) to recharge after an intense workout.

Looking at the google timeline we spent in the hotel a little over 2 hours.

There is more chicas available here than I could ever enjoy. I didn't prepare for such overabundance. I already had to reject some of the 'perfectly good' chicas to make room for the top performers and even among those there are some difficult choices to make. Especially since after little more than a week of debauchery I found myself not very 'hungry', so they have to compete for a limited spot. Lately after a good session and a pop it's usually 48 hours before I'm back in optimal mood. Yes, I could get hard the next day too (or if not use Sildenafil) but often I just don't enjoy it as much or don't even feel like hunting. And if it's more a chore than fun then it's kind of pointless for me (during some sessions I did wonder whether I'm not getting a short end of stick here-she's getting entertained, fed, kissed, fucked good and paid cash on top of that jaja).

Such an extended downtime wasn't the case for me up until recently, I suspect an increased prolactin hormone levels which might be causing it and perhaps some drops in the testosterone as well. Planning to have that checked. Diet might have something to do with it too since I'm eating much less meat and more fruit. I know of some substances that always increased my libido significantly but the prospect of couple years in Colombian jail makes even my little head hesitate a bit.

Mr Osteoknot, on one of your ass eating photos I noticed you aren't the spring chicken I assumed you to be. Is it the pink magic that allows you to achieve such Olympic feats or are you naturally high in testosterone on top of that?

[Eloket]

Took a tour to Guatape. Nice experience well worth the $30 fee + 20 mil for climbing the rock. As usual the messenger was hot with chickas I don't want to repeat. Reached out to the petite negra that had me cum in the condone. She was all ears but when push came to show there was some story about cooking dinner for mum. That's actually the first flake on my trip yet. I quickly reached out to a chicka who I have been chatting with earlier (the one that prioritized studying more than fucking me). After her first no she has been sending me text a couple of times. Tonight she was on in like no time at all. Result was like her coming 1. 5 hours later than the first one was scheduled.

Hadn't told her in the chat that my Spanish is malo and I hadn't the energy to evolve a huge convo on the translator. I just put on some music and showed her the mirror. This one really liked the mirror. After that we just talked body talk. A well known language for Medellin chickas. Had a good experience there in the sack but she was a bit shy to let me touch and lick. Well, she got me off anyway and both were happy. No repeat with this one.

Scheduled petite negra for tomorrow night after my coffee plantation tour. Let's see if I can squeeze in a Centro hit inbetween too.

Popeye getting used to life in Medellin.

[Elvis 2008]

You sound like a guy who thinks pussy is pussy and sees any woman as a piece of meat. As long as she has a vagina and a pulse, she is good to fuck, right? Have you ever thought that sex could be much better if there is a good connection / chemistry between the two? Difficult to establish one if she is dumb as fuck. But I agree, no references are needed if you are "wham bam thank you ma'am" type of a monger.

You pretty much nailed it. JjBee's moderator buddy censored my post when I called him out on this.

I figured he would respond to you with arrogance and take both sides of the issue, and he did not disappoint. The whole post is about a WG than he says he would not want to marry a WG. Which is it? Wife or WG? Who knows? The key is you are not special enough to figure it out. To me, it is like okay pal. Let us call a truce. You and your crew stay in Centro and tell us how great you have it and how you have it all figured out and how getting Colombian elites is impossible, and you know why that is right? Because if those players cannot do it, well, then no one can. Let's see if the moderator protects his baby again.

Thing is MB with what you just posted you are not a average monger but ahead of the game. When you made that comment about elites not being on seeking, I am wondering what you are putting in your profile and why you are not getting the hits and elites like I was. What are you putting in as your income and assets? Your income should be $200,000 and your assets should be $1 million. Even if it is not that, it does not take much to look like you have wealth in Colombia right?

Yeah, most women on seeking are your P4 P players, but I met one girl whose family was well to do. She was in college, and her father, an entrepreneur, paid for her schooling and an apartment in Medellin. If I had to guess, I would put his income in the top 5% of Colombians.

Then there was one 21 year old university student who was different than the typical P4 P girl. She looked like someone pampered her whole life. Once again, she was in school and had her apartment paid for. She told me her mother was a brain surgeon and she struck me as someone who was cut off by her mother for being too greedy. Her telling me this changed nothing and if this was true and I have no reason to believe otherwise, that would probably put her mother in the top 1% of all wage earners in Colombia.

And that was just in Medellin. Don Carlos got to a seeking girl before I did who picked up him in a Mercedes. I had talked to her. She was a lawyer, Paris trained chef, and had travelled all over the world.

These women seemed elite to me. Of course, the Medellin morons will disagree. It is not possible that any of these woman are better than those in Centro. Heck, the La Isla women are Pintos now. LOL.

[Osteoknot]

Colombian elites aren't selling their pussy. Period.

Cost him one million pesos. As I recall, she would not accept one peso less.

[MiamiBoy1]

Not even on Seeking Arrangement?

You think SA is some sort of an exclusive platform for the elites? Come on.

[Huacho]

Colombian elites aren't selling their pussy. Period.

That guy was joking but elite colombianas sell their pussies via arranged marriages to other rich families, etc. All the time. If you marry a guy from a 'good' meaning wealthy family, that you are not really in love with, that's selling your pussy, or at least leasing it out long-term.

[Osteoknot]

Rather, she found me. I was standing still for a moment and she walked up to me. Absolutely gorgeous, tall, not too skinny. My wingman happened to be walking by. As he often puts it, he would not touch some of the chicas I take to love motels from Ground Zero with a ten foot pole, and calls them "ugly" while they are standing next to me, under the assumption that they don't understand a word of English. This time, the first words out of his mouth were, "She's beautiful". He was so smitten that I offered her up to him first, but he said he wasn't ready.

If you like your chicas tall, and not too curvy with a small firm butt, perky breasts with a face and a smile that makes you stop and look again, and again, then she will blow your socks off. She has a smidge extra baby-fat on her that I found adorable and kept her feeling very soft and feminine under my roving hands.

She hangs out with Butterscotch, another gorgeous Ground Zero find but who I wouldn't call undamaged. This chica, who I have not named yet, said she would have to lie to Butterscotch about being with me to keep the dynamic I have going with both of them running smoothly. I told her that I try not to lie about such things but that was her call.

Could have all been an act but she fooled me into believing she was fresh and sweet. Didn't say a word about the numerous fotos I snapped as long as I did not show her face. Compliant to my every request, I paid 25% above FMV (Fair Market Value) for one hour, for the excellent service, which depending on how you look at it, doesn't really mean I paid above FMV. I am always willing to pay more for good performance and a smooth session. Silky smooth, very appreciative, very affectionate, more like GFE (Girl Friend Experience). I gave her an orgasm with my tongue that I am 99% sure she did not fake based on her O-face and her pussy contractions on my finger. She acted embarrassed about it for a few seconds. She had one of the smoothest pussies I ever felt on the inside. Even her G-spot didn't have ridges, but was still sensitive and definitely helped me put her over the edge with my index finger, while I was licking her clit at the same time.

I don't know why she came up to me today of all days right when we were discussing the topic of the quality of women at Ground Zero here. Cosmic Blueberry Muffin shit, I guess. I didn't ask her to fill out a job application, so I don't know anything about her background and education. She definitely didn't speak English.

I know if you dressed her up and put some make-up on her, which she didn't need as far as I was concerned, she'the be the kind of stunner the ranking guys fixate upon.

As sure as I can be, she had a virgin asshole and she offered it up to me for our next meeting. I have paid as little as 50 mil COP and as much as 600 mil COP for anal virginity. I split the difference and offered her 250 mil COP, which would include bareback, I need to come in her ass, with fotos, including the money shot of my cum dripping out her sweet hole. She looked at me pensively for about four seconds, then said, "okay". So as I often do I will quote Bill Murray from Caddyshack and say, "So I got that goin' for me, which is nice".

Earlier, I was staring out the window of my Room 201 in the love motel closest to the church, after yet another stellar session with my GZGTG. In twenty minutes, I saw 5 gorgeous girls. Granted, that is a superior vantage point. I didn't keep track of the others. I have impeccable taste, so if I say gorgeous, then they are at least a five in your book, jajajajajajaajaaaa.

[Knowledge]

Not even on Seeking Arrangement?

Colombian elites aren't selling their pussy. Period.

[Osteoknot]

I just be myself and let nature take its course

And not being overly defensive. I feel like I understand you a lot better, not that it matters anywhere except maybe here, a little.

[Kangurino]

I have an upcoming trip to Medellin starting in September. My first. I'm planning to hang out for 4 weeks.

Place to stay: What do you think of Sheraton Four Points or Marriot. If I pay for double occupancy will I have difficulties bringing guests who will register at the front desk.

Best Ways to Meet Girls Online Prior To arrival: Recently, I signed up for Tinder. Chatted with several girls, however, reading posts from others, it seems Facebook may be a better option. Does FB have a passport feature similar to Tinder where my profile will be displayed. How does one meet girls who are not on my contact list. In other words, how does one get a stack of girls to browse through from a specific locale.

Sorry for the basic questions. Would really appreciate some feedback.

My best choice is Alcazar de Oviedo, ln Poblado. Nice appartments and not so expencive. Daily cleaning included.

[Nounce]

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If you are coming into Medellin and have the money to stay at the Marriott, and you want to go to a place with the best chance you will find a girl you like, you should head to La Isla and if guys are being helpful, they should give a range of prices from that place. If you do not know the prices for takeout or have never done it from there, then shut the fuck about whether someone overpaid. You are being just as worthless as saying the guy overpaid for his hotel room or for his beer at La Isla.

I think you haven't been to La Isla recently. I have. It's a different club now.

I am guessing he wanted BBBJ but didn't get it. Instead of bargaining price, I think he should have bargained service and paid more if necessary to get what he wanted. He may have got the hotter girls but it was with limited service. The net result is that he did not get the best. It's like you get a Pinto while paying BWM price. That was what we were discussing in Brazil forums. Hahaha. GP is inexperienced so he has been taken advantage of, that is partly why he could bargain from 1.3 M to 1 M. The difference matched what RR paid for 2. I will be surprised if he would do the same thing once he has more experience. Remember SJobs. He took a beating too.

...Ricerocket is helpful, ....

This is what I came away with:

RR99: I paid 300 mil for 2 girls that provided BBFS service.

GP: I paid 2,400 mil for 2 girls that provided all covered service.

...paying $200 per night for 3 star accommodations ....

I guess my BMW / Pinto analogy is similar to the above.

[Knowledge]

The bombillo is becoming the post pandemic equivalent of Blakman's infamous popcorn. What's next, Tony the Tiger roars and countertop reggaeton dancing?

I love those lights. Bought two for myself in el centro. Fun when girls are with you with music and lights.

[Knowledge]

Impressive list, I think I agree with the overall point that it is a gray area and a game of semantics. One person's wining, dining, and chit chat is another person's quid pro quo. I stand firm in my position that it's between the two consenting parties and no one else's business.

Switching gears, today Mayor Quintero announced 7 PM to 5 AM curfews for minors in the so-called Zona Rosas of Medellin (eg la 33 and la 70 in Laureles, and Parque Lleras, Manila, and Provenza in Poblado). It basically covers the nighttime hours. This is in response to intense pressure from his uribista political opponents. The holier than thou posturing reached a fever pitch during the past couple of weeks as Duque's era comes to a close. I hope no one will make the mistake of assuming this means the happy hunting grounds are going to be free and clear of forbidden fruit. Proceed with caution.

I completely agree. I think there are a few dynamics at play that contribute to the grey zone and many Paisas being ok with money for sex or gifts.

1) They have more traditional gender roles and dynamics than in the US or Europe and the idea that men are providers is a strong one. I see memes about this all the time on Facebook. A common one is that they are alergic to cheap men or that a good boyfriend gives money for hair, nails etc.

2) There is a tradition of amantes or mozas that is widespread in Latin culture but is especially strong here. Moza specifically is the Colombian term for mistress. A mistress is not a prepago and there is more going on there emotionally and in terms of relationship dynamics. But one of the factors going into those relationships is clearly financial. We tap into that, especially with the older man / younger woman dynamic.

3) Ultimately there is a huge financial and power disparity that should be recognized between the average Colombiana and foriegner. I'm heavily biased towards, at this point exclusively looking for, the nonpros and semipros because I find them to be more enjoyable in every way. But when you talk to these chicas and understand what some of them (especially the more nonpro ones who don't see many foriegners) are going through it becomes clear how huge a difference there is between your life and theirs. Many of the normal girls I met are earning around 1 million pesos a month (250-350 USD depending on the exchange). That goes much farther in Medellin than in the US or Europe. Still, they may be living with their parents, single moms, or are struggling to get by working 6 days a week. It seems obvious that they will see you differently than a guy from their barrio because of that dynamic, especially if you spend half or a third of their monthly salary taking them out. This is something I'm sensitive to too and I don't mind giving a gift to them if I feel like we have a good connection. The ones who are genuine will also look for ways to help you like clean up your place, cook for you, help you find things etc. In my case, the baker I met the last trip is a fitness addict and is currently helping me arrange remote coaching with her trainer.

Now, I'd definitely like to go out with wealthier women in the future. I get the feeling that they would be as close as you get to what we might consider a fully nonpro experience or even them taking you out. The closest I've gotten to that dynamic have been webcam girls. I know two, one in particular who is doing fairly well for herself, and I don't feel much internal or external pressure to give either of the ones I know money beyond taxi fares and money I spend going out with them. I'd stress that I've met both of them on Facebook completely by chance vs. On cam sites and I think they are / were both attracted to me. I imagine going out with a doctor, lawyer, or executive would be similar with a little extra class and higher-brow conversation thrown in.

Finally, if you want to be classy with a nonpro to semipro and make her not feel like she's selling herself don't directly link the money to sex and give them the amount you want / feel comfortable with. When I give that "regalito" I'll say something like "tenga esto por su pelo y unas" (take this for you hair and nails). Or "Tu me caiste super bien. Quiero dar te un regalito para ayudar con sus gastos" (I really like you. I want to give you a little gift to help with your expenses).

[Nounce]

... Have you ever thought that sex could be much better if there is a good connection / chemistry between the two? Difficult to establish one if she is dumb as fuck. But I agree, no references are needed if you are "wham bam thank you ma'am" type of a monger.

It is easier to have good connection if you speak Spanish, I guess you do. There are lots things to talk about that do not include a degree. Look RR69 and Osteo, they seem to be doing fine and happy. Are you as happy as either one of them?

[MoonShot]

I completely agree. I think there are a few dynamics at play that contribute to the grey zone and many Paisas being ok with money for sex or gifts.

1) They have more traditional gender roles and dynamics than in the US or Europe and the idea that men are providers is a strong one. I see memes about this all the time on Facebook. A common one is that they are alergic to cheap men or that a good boyfriend gives money for hair, nails etc.

2) There is a tradition of amantes or mozas that is widespread in Latin culture but is especially strong here. Moza specifically is the Colombian term for mistress. A mistress is not a prepago and there is more going on there emotionally and in terms of relationship dynamics. But one of the factors going into those relationships is clearly financial. We tap into that, especially with the older man / younger woman dynamic.

3) Ultimately there is a huge financial and power disparity that should be recognized between the average Colombiana and foriegner. I'm heavily biased towards, at this point exclusively looking for, the nonpros and semipros because I find them to be more enjoyable in every way. But when you talk to these chicas and understand what some of them (especially the more nonpro ones who don't see many foriegners) are going through it becomes clear how huge a difference there is between your life and theirs. Many of the normal girls I met are earning around 1 million pesos a month (250-350 USD depending on the exchange). That goes much farther in Medellin than in the US or Europe. Still, they may be living with their parents, single moms, or are struggling to get by working 6 days a week. It seems obvious that they will see you differently than a guy from their barrio because of that dynamic, especially if you spend half or a third of their monthly salary taking them out. This is something I'm sensitive to too and I don't mind giving a gift to them if I feel like we have a good connection. The ones who are genuine will also look for ways to help you like clean up your place, cook for you, help you find things etc. In my case, the baker I met the last trip is a fitness addict and is currently helping me arrange remote coaching with her trainer.

Now, I'd definitely like to go out with wealthier women in the future. I get the feeling that they would be as close as you get to what we might consider a fully nonpro experience or even them taking you out. The closest I've gotten to that dynamic have been webcam girls. I know two, one in particular who is doing fairly well for herself, and I don't feel much internal or external pressure to give either of the ones I know money beyond taxi fares and money I spend going out with them. I'd stress that I've met both of them on Facebook completely by chance vs. On cam sites and I think they are / were both attracted to me. I imagine going out with a doctor, lawyer, or executive would be similar with a little extra class and higher-brow conversation thrown in.

Finally, if you want to be classy with a nonpro to semipro and make her not feel like she's selling herself don't directly link the money to sex and give them the amount you want / feel comfortable with. When I give that "regalito" I'll say something like "tenga esto por su pelo y unas" (take this for you hair and nails). Or "Tu me caiste super bien. Quiero dar te un regalito para ayudar con sus gastos" (I really like you. I want to give you a little gift to help with your expenses).

This is very insightful. I have not been to Medellin yet but I am planning my first trip next month. In my chats with FB girls, I am running into the gray area. Girls who say they want to hang out with me but say that they are not escorts. They never mention money but I will give them a gift of appreciation to help with their expenses when they leave. At times, I ask them what they are expecting and they usually say up to you, baby, if you want to give me something. I am going to go with flow here.