Medellin Reports

[DJHeywood]

I would say this. If you don't speak Spanish and you have never visited Latin America, you should ease into it by visiting a safer country first such as Costa Rica, Panama or Mexico. It will get you used to hearing Spanish and interacting with Latinas with a lower degree of risk but of course there is always risk in visiting Latin America, more so than Southeast Asia or Europe. Mexico or Costa Rica are great countries to get started and you can start learning a few words of Spanish and dip your toe in countries where Spanish is spoken. That would be my suggestion for newbies to Latin America. Get some experience in Latin America before coming over to Colombia where there is higher level of risks.

Learning Spanish is so important. The speed, slang varies from countries / cities but at least you can read a menu, direction and communicate your needs.

If you're short on time, limited budget if you're in a large metro area go to Spanish neighborhoods / restaurants / bars where Latam citizens go. Advantage of your home turf & "safety" of US jurisdiction. To prepare for working girls go to a strip club. Most are ripoffs for special action, but some gems of Latinas can be fun tutors, sometimes for the price of those online conversational tutors. You learn the slang & the pro side of negotiations. The good ones will appreciate a regular customer especially if you're giving her a paid breather from dancing 8 hrs straight. Thru the rapport I've gotten club discounts for action, OTC, and referrals to her home country.

Still fluent Spanish won't matter you can't negotiate if 2 dudes decide to make you their target. Spanish or not, that won't protect you from being jumped just like how we should avoid rough neighborhoods in US if you're an outsider. I'd be willing to trade a portion of Spanish fluency for every trustworthy street smart bro you can have.

[Zeos1]

When you guys are making trips to the casas like New Life, Energy and Loutron during the daytime and to clubs like La Isla and Fase Dos at night, what transportation do you normally use -- taxi, Uber or public transit?

Public transit and Uber, sometimes taxi.

[KeviKev68]

I guess sorting out fake accounts would be a good start to finding a safer "date" but I'm not sure how someone having an Instagram or a Facebook account guarantees anything. Lots of fake accounts on there too. But especially with Facebook if the account has absolutely no detail about friends, family, and no history then that is also a good sign that it is a false account of some kind. I have lots of FB friends on my FB travel account but there is a history with most of them, and even though I have never met many of them there is a time history, as well as their postings of stuff, as well as sometimes friends in common. Although even then it is possible that the person may not be trustworthy.

I don't use Facebook at all. When you look at a Tinder profile and a Instagram is also available you can see the girl doing various activities in different places. People who want to scam you aren't going to show themselves out and about. That takes too much time and it creates a trail.

You don't have to do all of that find a sucker. To each his own. I have plenty of contacts with a few openings for people I may come across while at either Botero or Lleras.

I like to plan meets in advance so I get as much action as I can without having to be out on the street. I don't have problems with flaking or missed appointments. The only problems I encounter are my visits run longer than I need. I guess that's a good problem.

[MoonShot]

I guess sorting out fake accounts would be a good start to finding a safer "date" but I'm not sure how someone having an Instagram or a Facebook account guarantees anything. Lots of fake accounts on there too. But especially with Facebook if the account has absolutely no detail about friends, family, and no history then that is also a good sign that it is a false account of some kind. I have lots of FB friends on my FB travel account but there is a history with most of them, and even though I have never met many of them there is a time history, as well as their postings of stuff, as well as sometimes friends in common. Although even then it is possible that the person may not be trustworthy.

It is a bit ironic to set up a fake Facebook account with a fake name and then complain about fake Facebook accounts.

[Orgasmico]

When you guys are making trips to the casas like New Life, Energy and Loutron during the daytime and to clubs like La Isla and Fase Dos at night, what transportation do you normally use -- taxi, Uber or public transit?

Taxis and apps like Uber.

[DaddyLou37]

Anyone have any thoughts on my post below? I got buried under all the posts about dangerous conditions (which seems to have taken over this thread).

I have stayed at Europa twice, both times in the 2 floor 10 bedroom Penthouse. I would highly recommend it, but also its the only place I have ever stayed at.

Armed security and concierge downstairs. Security checks all girls ID. Few were not let in due to not having a ID but would rather be safe than sorry.

Lleras Park is a 2-3 min walk, small liquor store outside as well.

Depending on the room you book some have a jacuzzi inside.

[Exoticspirit]

When you guys are making trips to the casas like New Life, Energy and Loutron during the daytime and to clubs like La Isla and Fase Dos at night, what transportation do you normally use -- taxi, Uber or public transit?

[Dcrist0527]

The administrator doesn't have to lock the thread. You can achieve the same result by not reading it. I'm confused by this recent obsession with crime reports on the part of people who spend maybe 20 days in a year here if they ever come here at all. The last couple of months I've been contacted by people I haven't spoken with in years asking if I'm OK. It feels disproportinate to me.

As usual, the reality is in the middle of the two sides. Which is why we should always stick to facts.

Fact: Traveling to Medellin is not implicitly safe. Traveling to ANY city as a tourist involves some risk, particularly if you don't speak the language or understand customs and socio-climate.

Fact: As a monger in Medellin, you ARE a target. While we can't accurately quantify it, your profile is a target. Being Asian, Black, Dutch, American doesn't matter so much, as we've learned. If you are out hunting, you are a potential target.

Fact: You can mitigate risks. Literally hundreds of pages on ISG on what to do and more importantly, what NOT to do. If you don't abide by all of this good advice, you increase the target on your back.

Fact: Just because it didn't happen to any given monger does not mean it won't happen to you. Along the same lines, any monger declaring Medellin is safe is lying.

Fact: The numbers are EXTREMELY favorable to you. Even in these reports that are being posted, we don't know where these mongers picked these girls up. So using these few reports as the basis for unfettered fear is stupid. Or dishonest. But anyone who's traveled internationally into MDE can tell you that there are dozens of mongers entering Medellin every hour. So when we have five reports, we SHOULD share them. And we should glean every piece of info out of them. But.

Fact: Ask yourself why these doomsday mongers who have sworn off Medellin and have no on the ground intel get so excited to scare others. They may have very valid points, but just realize that they have an agenda.

[Zeos1]

I think you meant that for me. When I see someone on Tinder with Instagram tags then you know they aren't fake. I am talking to 2 people who are in that category and have already banged one.

On the TLC show Love and Translation I recognize one of the Colombian girls from Tinder.

I am pretty good at sorting out fakes and there are quite a few.

I guess sorting out fake accounts would be a good start to finding a safer "date" but I'm not sure how someone having an Instagram or a Facebook account guarantees anything. Lots of fake accounts on there too. But especially with Facebook if the account has absolutely no detail about friends, family, and no history then that is also a good sign that it is a false account of some kind. I have lots of FB friends on my FB travel account but there is a history with most of them, and even though I have never met many of them there is a time history, as well as their postings of stuff, as well as sometimes friends in common. Although even then it is possible that the person may not be trustworthy.

[ILuvThePussy]

Anyone have any thoughts on my post below? I got buried under all the posts about dangerous conditions (which seems to have taken over this thread).

I stayed at provenza life on my last trip. There was no AC in my unit and the showers didn't drain properly. Other than that it was realitively for most girls to find. No problems bringing in guest. I will say this, one girl did not have a cedula and they still let her come up to my room. She was definitely above 18 but still kinda sketchy. It's pretty expensive too, compared to the other Airbnbs.

[Nounce]

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I made a Facebook using a fake name and 2 of my real pics. Slightly blurred unless I should not do that. Tried adding random girls in Medellin, no adds yet. Is there a group or way to get female friends added online before arriving since I have no connection?

Look up my past posts in recent weeks and you should find a few posts.

[Orgasmico]

This is how you get set up and murdered in a foreign country.

https://worldstar.com/videos/wshhNSz...a-train-on-her

This is why a lot of folks say Cartagena is ruined now, kinda like Sosua went down hill. If you stay out of Laureles and El Poblado, you can avoid much of the USA riffraff in Medellin.

[Paulie97]

DESERVE might have been a rather strong choice of words but his point isn't far off. It is Darwinian natural selection in our modern world. People who come to Colombia to monger or do drugs without understanding the culture and without bothering to learn the language even to a minimal degree are at risk. Then to compound things, some visitors have to show off their wealth by wearing gold chains or flashy watches and / or expensive clothes and pull out their iphones in public. Then they invite a girl to their apartment that has no check-in safeguards and then want to drink with their girl guests. Is it any wonder that they get drugged and robbed and some die or get killed.

This is natural selection at work in the modern world.

Yes "deserve" is the wrong word, period, even if referencing evolutionary theory. Newbies, or any other traveler who failed to access or apply common guidelines didn't deserve to die.

One can still get picked off in a street robbery or kidnapping while not flashing wealth, or set up by taxistas. Or just be in the wrong place at the wrong time in a dangerous poorly policed city like Medellin, having a meal in an open air restaurant, or taking a ride as armed men on motos are splitting lanes. A nervous shooter could squeeze the trigger even when cooperating. Or one could be grabbed by surprise, instinctively pull back and be taken as resisting. Foreigners are presumed rich, and if you can't pull off the local look you're still a target.

There's of course some good risk reductions for Medellin, and plenty of good YouTubers on that task. But Medellin is hot at the moment and not a good spot for partiers that want to entertain girls.

Costa Rica is a good spot, with three hotels set up as meeting places for girls and clients. Druggings are virtually non-existent. Constantly looking over your shoulder isn't necessary. Spanish is unnecessary as the young in the larger cities are taught English in school. There's of course the Google Translate backup. The spots are in close proximity, and there's the advantage of enjoying girls of multiple nationalities. Don't walk at night as street robberies happen once in a while, but they tend to be of the strong arm variety, a few men without weapons.

P.S. When we talk about gold chains in the context of Colombia we know we are primarily talking about some of our black fellow travelers. The expensive items need to stay home, but Black Americans do something extremely well. They often move in groups. Bravo guys. Many also look like NFL players. That also helps.

[MoonShot]

"Like a moth to a flame. This time a guy from the Netherlands checked in to his hotel and never checked out. Brought 2 chicks to the room at midnight and they left at 5 am. The cleaning lady found him dead. So for those that keep thinking I am safe if there is security or cameras, once again that has proven to be wrong.

https://www.minuto30.com/extranjero-...Y6nlRyQFG8KjQ4".

As does Forrest Gumps favorite quote "Stoopid is as Stoopid does".

Or one of my favorites, "you can't fix STOOPID".

If guys with dangerous 3rd world mongering experience want to visit MDE that's one thing.

But telling new mongers "youll probably be ok" is evil and very bad karma!!

Guys with little to no dangerous 3rd world mongering experience should not be visiting MDE, at least not at this time.

And I don't consider crossing the border and going to HK in Tijuana good enuff.

You want to monger maybe goto SEA or Europe.

Learn this hobby a bit before jumping straight into the equivalent of a 3rd world maximum security prison for convicted killers!!

I would say this. If you don't speak Spanish and you have never visited Latin America, you should ease into it by visiting a safer country first such as Costa Rica, Panama or Mexico. It will get you used to hearing Spanish and interacting with Latinas with a lower degree of risk but of course there is always risk in visiting Latin America, more so than Southeast Asia or Europe. Mexico or Costa Rica are great countries to get started and you can start learning a few words of Spanish and dip your toe in countries where Spanish is spoken. That would be my suggestion for newbies to Latin America. Get some experience in Latin America before coming over to Colombia where there is higher level of risks.

[Stl24]

Anyone have any thoughts on my post below? I got buried under all the posts about dangerous conditions (which seems to have taken over this thread).

I am trying to decide between Europa Suites and an AirBNB I found at Edificio Provenza Life near the Calle 6/ Calle 33 split. As stated before my motivation is not food or drinking or partying or nightlife. My sole focus is the same thing KeviKevi said, it's all about the women. I want to maximize my time and I plan on seeing 3-4 women per day. I'd like the opportunity to bring some back to my place (with the proper safety measures taken of course). The host of the AirBNB said they have 24 hour reception and guests are permitted. Just looking at the pictures I do like the AirBNB as it is more like an apartment and the Europa Suite doesn't seem like it has the same feel. I don't mind using Uber or Taxi but the appeal of being that close to Lleras Park is appealing for finding street girls and walking back. Does taking an uber or taxi vs walking back to Europa after finding a girl impact or limit my options. I'll also take any feedback about Europa or Edificio Provenza Life. As always, thanks in advance!