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  1. #55912
    The authorities will come for you if you are found to be prominently pimping. By prominent I am referring to the infamous Colombia Jake. Be careful with that.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jcgivesos  [View Original Post]
    This rang so true to me.

    Quote:

    My "goal" has been sort of modeling after a lifestyle in the USA that I love but would not be willing to pay the price of living in Manhattan during the week, and a country home in Connecticut for the weekends. We will do it here substituting Medellin for NYC, at probably one-tenth the cost, but for me, same quality and enjoyability of life. No, not the same. Better here.

    I'm not very active on the board. And I apologize for that. The board has been super helpful for me. I've gone a handful of times and I love it. My Spanish is serviceable. I'm going to make the big move. I've sold my home here in the US. I had to take advantage of this crazy market. I'm walking away from the transaction will a decent profit.

    I've been trying to make my dream happen as well. I'm going to spend a couple of months in the Fall there, trying to get my stuff together. I work remotely, so that gives me some options. I picked out an area that I really liked. For me, I like Laureles. Anyhow, I hope to get my ID in order. Bank account. I have a recommended attorney, so needless to say, I'm excited..

  2. #55911

    The peso is dropping like a rock.

    4161 this morning, I'm going to wait it out a couple of days to see if it continues. I loaded up earlier this week so I'm covered in case it starts to rise again.

  3. #55910
    The truth always comes out. I can confirm Centro girls have been in Lleras a lot longer than six years ago. I completely understand why some of us have been in denial about it. If I were shelling out that kind of money for a go I would not want to find out what's really going on and spoil the fantasy.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sangnyc21  [View Original Post]
    Well I'm stating what I've actually witnessed and before the centro girls couldn't hack it in places like Gustos.

    This was a fact.

    Now they're crawling with them.

    6 years ago when I first started coming to mde I would find a dime on every trip.

    Yes the girls are charging stupid money.

    But that's not my gripe. My gripe is that the quality of girls looks wise has deteriorated so badly.

    It use to be Gustos and places like Envy were goldmines for finding non pros who occasionally needed to make some $$.

    I had many great experiences. And yes it was pricey. But these aren't fb or centro girls. They have jobs and standards..

  4. #55909
    Quote Originally Posted by Knowledge  [View Original Post]
    I'm useless in the kitchen. Anyway, back to the topic of how to say "orgasm" in Spanish, "echar un polvo" and "dos / tres / cuatro polvos" will get the point across in Latin America, the Caribbean, and in Spain.
    However, don't screw it up and substitute "pollo" for "polvo."

  5. #55908

    The Evolution Of Parque LLeras

    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    Or is it that you were looking at it with rose tinted glasses before? For years people have been saying there are some of the same girls, but maybe you did not want to see it that way before. Now the glasses are off and you see it for what it is.

    Just like for years I have been saying how Sosua went downhill but other mongers were still swearing it was the best thing since sliced bread and that I was a hater. Now some of those are finally realizing it really has gone downhill. Maybe it just takes some people longer to notice these type of things than it does for others.
    I don't believe the poster your referring to has been looking at Lleras thru rose tinted glasses. Lleras over the past 5 years has changed dramatically as to girls working the Park.

    I don't remember ever seeing girls who work Centro working the Park five years ago. Seemed like a totally different breed of girls working versus since the beginning of the Pandemic when things really started to go downhill. I don't go with girls from the Park, but walk thru it frequently during the evenings, and have witnessed the difference at least quality wise of the girls working the park from before. Five years ago, the Park was known to many Colombians in Medellin to have "upper end" girls working, and during this time, there were few mongers compared to now.

    So what has happened, with all the mongers that have arrived in Medellin, demand has increased, and thru the grapevine, whether it be Fayboo or the SW's in Centro, word gets around that there's a more profitable mongering venue and they try it out, albeit a lot of them don't have the skills to work the Park, and / or are to fat and ugly. Years ago the women working the Park where classy, a bit older, a lot of them spoke some English. But now it's different, and the "new normal."

    Part of the attraction of the Park years ago, at least for Colombians, who always been the primary clients of the establishments around the Park, was to see the prostitutes working the Park.

  6. #55907
    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    You really think you will be able to get the toothpaste back into the tube after that? You are not going to get a blindfold back on to someone after they have seen the light. Once these chicks change for the worse they do not go back. Name one mongering scene that was great, then turned to shit, then went back to being great again. It does not happen. Get used to the new normal.
    I don't disagree with you about what has happened, and it is the "new normal", but things will get better once a lot of the mongers return to Asia, but it will never be like before.

  7. #55906
    Quote Originally Posted by Sangnyc21  [View Original Post]
    My gripe is that the quality of girls looks wise has deteriorated so badly.

    It use to be Gustos and places like Envy were goldmines for finding non pros who occasionally needed to make some $$.
    So where have they gone? Or do they no longer occasionally need to make money that way?

  8. #55905
    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    Or is it that you were looking at it with rose tinted glasses before? For years people have been saying there are some of the same girls, but maybe you did not want to see it that way before. Now the glasses are off and you see it for what it is.

    Just like for years I have been saying how Sosua went downhill but other mongers were still swearing it was the best thing since sliced bread and that I was a hater. Now some of those are finally realizing it really has gone downhill. Maybe it just takes some people longer to notice these type of things than it does for others.
    Well I'm stating what I've actually witnessed and before the centro girls couldn't hack it in places like Gustos.

    This was a fact.

    Now they're crawling with them.

    6 years ago when I first started coming to mde I would find a dime on every trip.

    Yes the girls are charging stupid money.

    But that's not my gripe. My gripe is that the quality of girls looks wise has deteriorated so badly.

    It use to be Gustos and places like Envy were goldmines for finding non pros who occasionally needed to make some $$.

    I had many great experiences. And yes it was pricey. But these aren't fb or centro girls. They have jobs and standards.

    Those types of girls are long gone. Lleras is no diff than centro rn only with jacked up prices.

    If you're buying a Bentley I know it'll cost me a lot. But I don't expect to pay the same price at a Honda dealership as a Bentley.

    And that's what's happening.

    I know some of you guys think it's always been like this and I'm sure there always have been girls who tried.

    But I def have enough experience in medellin to tell you how it is now and how it was back then.

    And these loud crowds of want to be ballers are not just ruining the lleras scene I also saw first hand they're calling over fb girls and keeping them all night and prob overpaying.

    Fb girls and centro street girls imo is a set market that can fluctuate a little. I mean 20-30 k depending on certain things guys want.

    I always knew the independents would charge what they want and not back down.

    But hey it's just an observation.

    Doesn't effect me at the moment one way or another.

  9. #55904
    Quote Originally Posted by Surfer500  [View Original Post]
    I've voiced some of the same / similar concerns about Centro for months now.

    Hopefully Asia will return to the good old days how it was before the Pandemic and the hordes of mongers will go back there.
    You really think you will be able to get the toothpaste back into the tube after that? You are not going to get a blindfold back on to someone after they have seen the light. Once these chicks change for the worse they do not go back. Name one mongering scene that was great, then turned to shit, then went back to being great again. It does not happen. Get used to the new normal.

  10. #55903
    Quote Originally Posted by Sangnyc21  [View Original Post]
    Parque Lleras is the new Sosua and it is going downhill fast.

    I use to be the ones that would be firm that no centro girls would be in lleras and that the quality of women were much different in the clubs.

    Well it turns out the last couple years since the pandemic lleras has literally turned to shit.
    Or is it that you were looking at it with rose tinted glasses before? For years people have been saying there are some of the same girls, but maybe you did not want to see it that way before. Now the glasses are off and you see it for what it is.

    Just like for years I have been saying how Sosua went downhill but other mongers were still swearing it was the best thing since sliced bread and that I was a hater. Now some of those are finally realizing it really has gone downhill. Maybe it just takes some people longer to notice these type of things than it does for others.

  11. #55902

    This is the dream

    This rang so true to me.

    Quote:

    My "goal" has been sort of modeling after a lifestyle in the USA that I love but would not be willing to pay the price of living in Manhattan during the week, and a country home in Connecticut for the weekends. We will do it here substituting Medellin for NYC, at probably one-tenth the cost, but for me, same quality and enjoyability of life. No, not the same. Better here.

    I'm not very active on the board. And I apologize for that. The board has been super helpful for me. I've gone a handful of times and I love it. My Spanish is serviceable. I'm going to make the big move. I've sold my home here in the US. I had to take advantage of this crazy market. I'm walking away from the transaction will a decent profit.

    I've been trying to make my dream happen as well. I'm going to spend a couple of months in the Fall there, trying to get my stuff together. I work remotely, so that gives me some options. I picked out an area that I really liked. For me, I like Laureles. Anyhow, I hope to get my ID in order. Bank account. I have a recommended attorney, so needless to say, I'm excited.

    I have a side gig that is starting to come through. It won't make me millions, but it'll bring in a residual income for awhile. I can also expand the business in Medellin. I run that through Twitter mostly. I started a Colombian Hottie series.

    I'd love some advice from the folks that have already made the big move.

  12. #55901

    Amen!

    Quote Originally Posted by Sangnyc21  [View Original Post]
    Parque Lleras is the new Sosua and it is going downhill fast.

    I use to be the ones that would be firm that no centro girls would be in lleras and that the quality of women were much different in the clubs.

    Well it turns out the last couple years since the pandemic lleras has literally turned to shit.

    I went out last night and without the motivation of mongering since I haven't been mongering for a while. Just to go back and be in the middle of the action.

    But the quality of girls are trash.

    When I first went to Gustos on my first trip 6 years ago the booth was 500 mil. Now it's 1. 5 mil to reserve a booth on the weekend.

    With all the traffic from new mongers.

    The issue now is drugging and robberies have become so common in this area from what I'm reading and hearing..
    I say it all the time, we all need to be discreet, clean, respectful, and do what we can to preserve the game as a whole. Monger with class so foreigners don't just have a reputation as drug addicted sex fiends, but dudes just trying to live their best life.

  13. #55900
    Quote Originally Posted by DonValle  [View Original Post]
    I'm new to the city. Wandering around I randomly ended up in a strip club "Barra Ejecutiva". Around 8 or 9 pm on a weekday. Lots of girls (20+) just sitting around and not many guys. Loud music as usual so I can barely hear anything and can't use my not-great Spanish. Got a beer for 17 k, which is a rip off, but maybe that's standard there. The appearance of the women varied. Some where really good looking. I didn't see anyone going anywhere for lap dances like a strip club in the USA. Don't know if they even do that there, or if there are rooms somewhere for sex or what. Since I could hear shit, I didn't want to struggle to ask, and just left.
    The not so much a place for lap dances but the "rooms" for fucking are past the DJ booth. They're some pretty disgusting rooms -- when I took a chica back there for the first time, it was her first time back there too, and she was appalled as well. The bed was a mattress on a ledge, the "shower" had an open ceiling to the hallway, and the lighting horrendous. Conejitas a couple of doors down has much nicer rooms but is often dead. You could always pay more to go to an outside hotel of course.

    If you go and want to talk, you can pull out you phone for a translator app or ask her to use hers, "un traductor". The women in those bars will be happy to use one to part you with your money.

  14. #55899
    Quote Originally Posted by Shemp  [View Original Post]
    Fb talent can be had for about 5 times the price of a centro chick.

    Don't bring a centro chick to another part of town. They do cheap, 40 k or so quick sessions in cheap hourly hotels in centro. Don't try to take a fish out of water.
    Roger that, thanks for the reality check LOL.

  15. #55898
    This is excellent advice.

    Quote Originally Posted by LoveItHere69  [View Original Post]
    In Colombia.

    Many times that will mean that she will then take her pants and panties off but not her shirt and bra. That is extra money. One cute tiny spinner did this to me in Centro. She started taking her pants off so I did not suspect anything. But then she stopped and no top off. She now works in Park Lleras because I saw her there.

    In Philippines.

    That means you are about to be set-up using mob of guy friends, family, or police. Girl went straight to my bathroom. Taking too long so I said get out before I break the door down. She got out and we left. Stepping outside the community gate were 5 police walking up to me to arrest me. Spent 10 hours at their cop shop. They let me go because they had nothing and the next shift was starting soon.

    Bottom line is this. If anything is odd and out of the ordinary, walk away. There are plenty of others. I have walked away from many good girls but who knows how many nightmares I walked away from. One drama queen can easily ruin your entire trip.

    Same thing with questioning if it is a woman or man. If you have to question what you are taking up to the room with you then walk away.

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