Medellin Reports

[JjBee62]

Not at all, my point was there is no cut.

Or there are as many cuts as there are members and most of them change frequently.

[Mtndew704]

I plan on being in Medellin sometime this year, been working on my Spanish the past year or so I think I'll be able to get by with it.

Just want to ask about the safety of el centro, I plan on being around there in the day time and I don't drink or act a fool. How safe would it be for a street smart newbie? Been hearing about a lot of robberies and druggings in parque Lleras, do druggings ever happen in el centro?

Also when watching videos about el centro it seems like there's a lot of local guys just hanging about, how do you go about speaking to a WG when there's like 20 guys watching you?

Appreciate any advice that can be given, thanks.

I have limited spanish, am america / obviously white and I had no problems in el centro. Just ignore the trannies / kids offering drugs and you'll be fine since you don't drink so no risk of getting drugged. As far as the girls I just speak to them with my back against a wall so I can see my surroundings and able to use my phone safely if I need to translate something. There is a strong police presence and I have seen them arrest locals for fighting / stealing / being too fucked up so they do take care of shit.

[NeilGeorge]

Just thought I would update. Prices high however it's a once in a lifetime experience to see 10 to 12 beautiful women parade and strip in front of you. Then you take your choice of whichever one you want. But in the bedroom they try to upsell. And afterwards they ask you for a tip. I never give them a tip.

[Knowledge]

It is safer for some than it is for others. With respect to crime, yes it does occur. I think statistics show it does not occur disproportionately in Medellin compared to cities of similar size. It is true that there are men in Centro. If you are not comfortable speaking to women when they are near other men, they will pick up on that and move away from their boyfriends and acquaintances to deal with you. Establish eye contact, even from a distance, and women who are good to go will acknowledge you. Approach the women, greet them, and then motion toward a shady spot away from whatever bro show is happening near them. You can then get into whatever chit chat you like. You can also cut to the chase with a simple "vamanos para la pieza. " The rough translation is "let's go fuck. " 30 K plus the frequently mentioned 8 K to 15 K (18 K at Hotel Deseo if you are a high rolling rat like Surfer) for the room. The original post is similar to some we see here regularly that are a request for a sanity check or a request to be talked out of venturing into Centro. I'm really not the guy to cover that.

I plan on being in Medellin sometime this year, been working on my Spanish the past year or so I think I'll be able to get by with it.

Just want to ask about the safety of el centro, I plan on being around there in the day time and I don't drink or act a fool. How safe would it be for a street smart newbie? Been hearing about a lot of robberies and druggings in parque Lleras, do druggings ever happen in el centro?

Also when watching videos about el centro it seems like there's a lot of local guys just hanging about, how do you go about speaking to a WG when there's like 20 guys watching you?

Appreciate any advice that can be given, thanks.

[JjBee62]

You carry this forum. I became a paying member because of you. Not just with your updates but it's because you do things the right way: girls look like they're having fun, they're gorgeous, sometimes multiple of them (and I hope / bet you're enjoying yourself too.

F*#K the haters.

Nothing against Osteo, but there's a right way, a wrong way and an Osteo way.

There are several different right ways to do things and there are too many wrong ways to list. Doing things the Osteo way will almost certainly result in a catastrophic failure for most newbies. Quite frankly he narrowly escapes disaster every trip.

Clearly he's enjoying himself, but the path he's on rarely finishes happily ever after. I sincerely hope he's the exception.

[Osteoknot]

You carry this forum. I became a paying member because of you. Not just with your updates but it's because you do things the right way: girls look like they're having fun, they're gorgeous, sometimes multiple of them (and I hope / bet you're enjoying yourself too.

F*#K the haters.

To say that I carry this forum is a vast overstatement. I should not be confused with the subject matter experts here of which there are many, and I would say they bring more "value" to the table. I hesitate to name them because of error of omission and leaving someone out, but we all know Surfer Dude and JuJuBees jump to the forefront. The board is the sum total of its parts. Even people on my Ignore List I consider valuable. They are mostly there to keep me from engaging in the endless circular debates that are so prevalent here. That would start to dip into my mongering time, jeje. Others have messaged me with similar sentiments about joining as yours. I noticed you were posting for the first time, and I think guys like you are my audience, the silent majority as Nixon called it, I believe. One guy said he joined because he just had to see my pictures after reading the verbiage, jaja.

I have also been advised that there were people out there ready to do me bodily harm, so if that's not a hater I don't know what is, not counting the obvious ones here. I have been threatened with being attacked at Ground Zero for posting fotos before and I had those posts removed that went back over a year because of it. Maybe I was being a coward but I thought it the practical move at the time. Remember, we aren't trying to solve world peace or the cure for cancer here, this is a mongering board and I think first and foremost we should not take ourselves or our hobby too seriously. Let's have fun! Ostee Out and Keep On Keepin' On!

[Osteoknot]

You sound a little insecure as to whether you made the cut or not. LOL.

Not at all, my point was there is no cut.

[Osteoknot]

I don't think I am focussing in on a non-relevant point here, but I do think that the idea of a "Vennie beauty chromosome" is a ridiculous idea. Maybe if the USA had enforced its embargo and barrackeded the people in for for a few thousand years, but that is just not the case. Based on this logic, we would also say that, ignoring crappy clothes / hair fashion, accents, and size of belly, we would be able to tell who was an Aussie, a NZer, a Brit, a Canadian and a USAn. This is clearly not the case. The reason Venezuela does well in beapoints uty contests is simply that their culture is highly patriarchal, meaning they value beauty very highly. Beauties from most other countries would never consider entering a beauty contest bcos they quite rightly view it as demeaning and objectifying to women.

A parrellel can be drawn with atheltics and sprinting. Is there a Jamaican 100 m gene? Of course not. It's simply bcos their society has come to value and motivate that event above others.

As the revered biology teacher Solomon Malinsky taught me, "Everything you are and everything you will ever be can be boiled down to two factors," Heredity or Environment or the so called "Nature versus Nurture" or genetic versus familial, argument. That pendulum has swung back and forth even before Watson and Crick won the Nobel Prize for describing DNA in 1962. Lately, the pendulum has swung heavily toward heredity with the mapping of the human genome being completed officially as far as current technology will allow in 2003. Obviously, your bias is toward environment but stating that either side is "ridiculous" is poisoning the well. My usual way to back out of that debate is to claim it is 50/50 genetic or familial, which I am doing now and you may certainly have the last word if you wish.

[Osteoknot]

Are there a lot of girls from Venezuela to be had in Medellin? I have always wanted to visit Venezuela but have heard that it was way too dangerous to go and hesitated. Are Venezuelan girls generally cheaper than Colombian?

There are a ton out there, I have no idea of the actual numbers. There was a Venezuelan Refugee Crisis that started it all I don't know how many years ago or if it's still considered active but millions fled the country to come here. I have met more than one girl who said she walked here all the way from the border in X amount of weeks. There was and still is a ton of resentment toward them by the locals because they were competing for jobs here. The word on the street from the chicas I talked to is that they undercut the sex workers (SW) with their pricing particularly at Ground Zero and that supposedly is one of the main reasons prices have stayed down. More than one girl has told me the Colombianas and Vennies "hate" each other.

I don't actively seek out Vennies, but once I am in a room with a SW, about 90% of the time they end up being Vennies or Paisas, and 75% of that group are Vennies. I have gotten to the point where I can usually spot them from a distance, not because they are Vennies, but because they are the best looking ones with the best bodies. Their face looks different with sharper features and just prettier, to me. Their skin is smooth and near flawless. When you grab a handful of Vennies they feel different, firm but soft at the same time, almost indescribable.

I have never felt more danger from a Vennies than baseline. I guess they might be considered more "desperate" but I think that tagline could be applied to any girl out on the street selling her wet holes for under $8 USD. Lately, I've heard a buzz that some girls are returning to Venezuela which makes me think the Crisis is over but that is pure conjecture on my part. I would be interested to hear feedback on that or Vennies in general. Ostee Out.

[Osteoknot]

I think you'll find that Puerto Rico, when adjusted for population is the clear winner based on crowns won. Venezuela has 12 crowns, 6 of each, with a population of 28 million. Puerto Rico has 7, 5 from Miss Universe, with only 3 million people. The Vennies need roughly 50 more winners to match them.

I think technically Puerto Rico gets gypped out of the crown because it is considered part of the United States, but yours is a good point.

[Surfer500]

Don't you love it when someone gloms onto one little phrase you turned in a post that you didn't even give a passing thought and makes it the focus of a reply? Jajajaja, I am doing it now.

Respected board members. By whose account? Was there a vote? Did I not get that memo?.

You sound a little insecure as to whether you made the cut or not. LOL.

[Surfer500]

Generally, I've come to prefer the Vennies as well. Though I still dig the Colombianas, I'm glad the Vennies invaded Colombia. Lol.

I really can't relate much to the Vennies as I know nothing about their Country, or their people, where as I can relate to the Colombians, knowing a bit about them, and Medellin.

On a totally non-sexual level, I have just never clicked with, at least yet, with a Vennie which of course could happen anytime.

They do have some different attributes than the Colombians, as they appear to be more educated / literate, and are sharper in a business sense.

On a sexual level, I have limited encounters with them, probably no more than a dozen, and I can't make the statement either way if they or better or worse than the Colombians in this department.

The invasion of the Vennies over the years has been a godsend for everyone on this board in terms of value, and the sheer numbers of them available in Centro, who out number the Colombians based on my observations.

Given that the Vennies are foreigners in Colombia, I also believe their work ethic is also much greater than the Colombians given where they come from. This is evident by how early some of the girls arrive in Centro and how long they stay out working. Some of them are almost always in the same spot, kind of like the Botero Statues, with some of them working out there for as long as eight years.

Yet this pales on the Colombian side of things, there have been some of the same Colombians working in front of the Veracruz Church for more than twenty years, a few of them of which have daughters working the streets as well.

I have one who works the telephone booths with a hot daughter of 19 who keeps egging me on to take her up stairs.

Her Mom is a performer and hopefully she trained her daughter well, but if her Mom found out that I took her upstairs, I might be in a lot of trouble, or perhaps what actually would happen is her Mom would give her a high five, and yell at her "Attagirl"!

[SyphonFilter]

I plan on being in Medellin sometime this year, been working on my Spanish the past year or so I think I'll be able to get by with it.

Just want to ask about the safety of el centro, I plan on being around there in the day time and I don't drink or act a fool. How safe would it be for a street smart newbie? Been hearing about a lot of robberies and druggings in parque Lleras, do druggings ever happen in el centro?

Also when watching videos about el centro it seems like there's a lot of local guys just hanging about, how do you go about speaking to a WG when there's like 20 guys watching you?

Appreciate any advice that can be given, thanks.

[JustTK]

Ok, let's say I'm going tomorrow. Better?

Best you check official sources of info. USA CDC website covers entry requirements to all countries, so does GOV UK website.

[Taylor707]

Ok, let's say I'm going tomorrow. Better?

Obviously that could be answered