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  1. #53108
    I am with you. I do love women. But I don't want any relationship with a US / Western woman. Been there, done that. I like to think I'm single because I want to be. That said, what I can get here in Colombia is so much more than I could in the USA, unless I wanted to pay a high-end hooker (which I don't). I was married once to a Colombian girl. Super sweet with a big heart, but eventually I found myself wanting to fuck other women again and I could not do that to her. It would have killed her to find out. So better to divorce her and maintain a strong friendship.

    Whether I ever marry again, I don't know. Probably not. Women all over the world are materialistic (not all of them). In Colombia, I've seen my fair share. But at least it usually costs a lot less here to keep them happy. And if you get lucky, you can find one who likes you for you and doesn't want to take advantage of you.

    Quote Originally Posted by FlagRunner77  [View Original Post]

    Maybe I'm the exception, but I don't WANT a relationship with a US / Western woman. It is just a situation that isn't in my plans. Someone posted here recently that someone was awkward or something and 'that's probably why they're single'. How about, they're single because they want to be?

    Not that I want to monger for the rest of my life, but I'm now actively considering moving or retiring to other countries where the women are much less materialistic and more like the type of wife I'd look for, if I eventually decide that I want to get married. I in particular love women. But the women I love are not the ones from the US / Canada. They are the women I've met on my travels to countries where they genuinely show interest in you and want to show that they can take care of you, whether you are paying for it or not.

  2. #53107

    Yes

    Quote Originally Posted by JjBee62  [View Original Post]
    You should ask whoever suggested Parque Lleras as the best place to stay. I'm not trying to be rude. People come through here regularly and ask the same things, questions which require 100 more questions before they can be answered.

    Here's the first question. How successful are you, where you live, at finding regular girls and getting them to have sex with you shortly after meeting them? If I put you on a timer and told you that you have to find a woman you've never seen before, and convince her to have sex with you within 3 hours, what are your chances of success?

    Let's make it more difficult. Now you need to find a woman in a country you've never been to before and make the connection when she doesn't even speak your language.

    If you were just looking for women you could pay for sex, because that's what they do to earn a living, it would be simple. That's like asking "where can I get a hamburger and how much does it cost?" You're asking "How can I get a hamburger, made from a cow raised and butchered by vegans?.
    I agree. This is not rocket science.

  3. #53106
    Quote Originally Posted by Sargon76  [View Original Post]
    Facebook, using google translate. Seems to be work well enough for me, got them messaging me like crazy. I will let you know how it plays out once I get down there. If they are semi-pro than they are still interested in the money. As far as "normal girls" goes, don't bother, remember crazy in the streets = crazy between the sheets.

    As for being incel, go easy on yourself, that term has some pretty harsh connotations and let's face it, women in the US are by-and-large absolutely horrible to try and date. The problem might not be you, it could be, but IDK. I know my issue is that, while I have a great personality, I am fat and sort of weird looking. Also I only recently began making decent money and become somewhat successful in my career, so yeah, American women aren't too interested in me. But that's OK, because whenever I leave the US, all of a sudden I am a top catch, pros, semi-pros and "normal" women take interest in me.
    I had to respond, becuase this resonates with me. I'm pushing 40 and have taken many steps back in an otherwise lucrative career in order to end up where I am now. But, I'm not 'successful' in that I haven't settled for a decent paying job just to get by. I've pursued what I actually love, and there is delayed payback with that. Also, I'm overweight and not the most attractive.

    I've been mongering for many years now, mainly Germany and Thailand as I lived in Europe for most of my life.

    Maybe I'm the exception, but I don't WANT a relationship with a US / Western woman. It is just a situation that isn't in my plans. Someone posted here recently that someone was awkward or something and 'that's probably why they're single'. How about, they're single because they want to be?

    Not that I want to monger for the rest of my life, but I'm now actively considering moving or retiring to other countries where the women are much less materialistic and more like the type of wife I'd look for, if I eventually decide that I want to get married. I see so many successful guys that are married and, whilst they aren't unhappy per se, I keep asking myself. Would I be happy if that was it? If that was the end of my exploration of women? I just can't see it. Maybe I just have never found 'the one'. But I sure as hell ain't looking for her.

    And we need to be careful about labels. Incel is a very specific thing which is not good. It is attributed to guys who are involuntary celebate and, in particular, are resentful of women as a result. Most of us on here are far from that. I in particular love women. But the women I love are not the ones from the US / Canada. They are the women I've met on my travels to countries where they genuinely show interest in you and want to show that they can take care of you, whether you are paying for it or not.

  4. #53105
    This is an awesome summary. I just want to say thanks for that JjBee62!

    Quote Originally Posted by JjBee62  [View Original Post]
    I'll try to answer. It's difficult to give exact answers without a lot more information from you.

    First thing, forget Instagram and webcam sites, along with YouTube videos. YouTube videos mostly just give one person's opinion. IG and webcams will waste a lot of your time and money with minimal returns. You'll be competing with guys who are happy to spend lots of money for just the online interactions.

    Where and how to find girls depends on what you're comfortable with. What works for you in the US? You should concentrate on the Colombian equivalent. At least to get started. Knowing Spanish will work in your favor.

    Where to stay is another decision based upon your experience and comfort level. The easiest solution is to stay at the Mansion (Search Hotel M Medellin). There will be other, experienced mongers there who can help you out and there are girls available onsite. It's not the cheapest option, but it's reasonable compared to US hotels. About $200 per day should cover food, lodging and 2 girls. If that's your choice, book several weeks in advance. They tend to be busy.

    With hotels you will often be charged extra for bringing girls to your room, or you might be limited on the number of guests. Some will not allow any guests. Most will require the girls to have a valid ID.

    You could run into the same issues with Airbnb. Pay attention to the description and rules.

    Some guys prefer a place where access is controlled. This adds a level of security, but can also cause problems. For a first timer, having someone screening visitors is probably best.

    The prices for companionship vary greatly. I'll cover some of the options. The price ranges depend on location. All of these are for CFS. Some will require more for anything beyond what you probably get for your money in the US. None of these prices are exact. Also you should be negotiating in pesos and not dollars.

    Street girls range from less than $15 for about 30 minutes to about $100 for an hour.

    Strip club girls go from around $20 for 30 minutes or so to $75 for 45-60 minutes.

    Casas run from under $15 for 30 minutes to $75 or more per hour.

    Online advertisers start around $20 per hour and go up. Many are in-call locations, similar to what you would find on the sites used in the US.

    Social media girls (primarily Facebook) mostly start less than $40 and there are some getting $200 or more. Many are available for around $60. It's common to get GFE from these girls, including BBBJ. Most will stay for a least an hour at that price and multiple hours with MSOG is fairly common.

    Freelancers in night clubs can expect from $50 up to $500 or more. That price might get you an hour or all night.

    There are other options, but that should give you an idea.

    Can you just walk around and pick up a girl? Yes, no and maybe. It depends on where you are, how easily you interact with others and many other things. How you operate in the US will have a lot to do with how you find girls.

    Most guys pull money as needed from an ATM. Whether this is best depends on your bank. I keep 2 checking accounts in 2 separate banks. Because of conversion fees and out of network ATM fees, it's better for me to take cash and exchange it, for one of my accounts. For the other account I get a better rate by withdrawing local currency from an ATM. I mostly get money from the ATM, but I bring some cash, in case of an emergency. I also am setup so I can transfer money from one of my accounts to a cash pickup location, similar to using Western Union. That's just for a serious emergency. One bit of advice, only carry what you expect to spend.

    My guess is that the majority of girls will not be completely open with you taking video. In many cases, paying more will change their mind. The same is true for most things. If you require something extra, you can often get it by pulling out your money.

    The cost for any particular girl on any given day can and will vary. A thick girl might want double or half of what another girl wants. Focus instead on what you want to pay. Pick girls who fit your budget and meet your requirements.

    Since you mentioned spending your income tax return on the trip, I assume you will be on a budget. Fortunately, Colombia is very inexpensive. It's possible to eat 3 meals daily and spend less than $10. Reasonable hotels or apartments can be found for $25-$45 per night, or less. Taxis will take you almost anywhere you need to go, except to and from the airport, for under $5 and $2-$3 is common. The airport will cost under $25 (by taxi).

  5. #53104
    Quote Originally Posted by DriftClouds  [View Original Post]
    Jimbox if you see this I am trying to send you my WhatsApp or Facebook. If you see this please clear your inbox and PM me. I so got some question to everyone. I have a Facebook girl during the day. So my hotel wouldn't allow me bringing another girl at night, they charges 100 k for more. Also I cum twice today so I am thinking tonight my best bet is just go to some strip clubs and enjoy the view and labdance. Any strip clubs at Poblado? I think gusto is just a hotel girls hook up place. Right?
    Gusto is just a regular night club where hookers go to find guys who will pay more. La Isla is a strip club in Poblado. Fase Dos is also in Poblado. They are not close together and you will need to taxi to either one. Prices are about the same, but La Isla is much more comfortable. You need to buy a bottle to get good seating at either place. Which place has the best girls depends on the night.

  6. #53103

    Jimbox clears your mails brother. / more adult entertainment night at poblado?

    Jimbox if you see this I am trying to send you my WhatsApp or Facebook. If you see this please clear your inbox and PM me. I so got some question to everyone. I have a Facebook girl during the day. So my hotel wouldn't allow me bringing another girl at night, they charges 100 k for more. Also I cum twice today so I am thinking tonight my best bet is just go to some strip clubs and enjoy the view and labdance. Any strip clubs at Poblado? I think gusto is just a hotel girls hook up place. Right?

  7. #53102
    Quote Originally Posted by Puthsardarade  [View Original Post]
    Hi,

    I'm traveling to Medellin in around 1 week. Parque Lleras in Poblado was suggested as the best place to stay, I'd like to meet regular or semi pro girls so have a less business like transaction.

    What can I expect to pay on average and where would you suggest I go for bars and clubs?.
    You should ask whoever suggested Parque Lleras as the best place to stay. I'm not trying to be rude. People come through here regularly and ask the same things, questions which require 100 more questions before they can be answered.

    Here's the first question. How successful are you, where you live, at finding regular girls and getting them to have sex with you shortly after meeting them? If I put you on a timer and told you that you have to find a woman you've never seen before, and convince her to have sex with you within 3 hours, what are your chances of success?

    Let's make it more difficult. Now you need to find a woman in a country you've never been to before and make the connection when she doesn't even speak your language.

    If you were just looking for women you could pay for sex, because that's what they do to earn a living, it would be simple. That's like asking "where can I get a hamburger and how much does it cost?" You're asking "How can I get a hamburger, made from a cow raised and butchered by vegans?

    The way I see it, you have 2 options.

    1. In the next week master the skill of meeting and seducing women and learn enough Spanish to carry on a conversation.

    2. Decide to pay women for sex who expect to get paid for sex.

    Let us know which.

  8. #53101
    Quote Originally Posted by Sargon76  [View Original Post]
    So much better tonight. Did a tour of Colonia 13 today with my guide. Fun times, but it was a lot of exercise.

    My guide set me up with a girl he and some people I know highly recommend. So far this guy has had my back and helped me a ton so I am down.

    19 year old college girl. Absolutely, for me, a 10. Like OMG what is this girl doing with a guy like me. Slender body, small firm tits, amazing ass and thighs, gorgeous face, beautiful mocha skin, soft and firm in all the right places. Took her out for a nice meal and she was smart and fun to talk to via google translate. We even tried teaching each other how to speak each others language. True GFE. After dinner we go back to the apartment. Excellent DFK and then she nips of to the bathroom. Comes out in shear lingerie with the leather strapy things. So Sargon is not into BDSM, maybe a little and only if I am the Dom. But damn the outfit got me going. We abscond to the bedroom. There more DFK and then she give an amazing BBBJ with DT. After a time she ask for condom but with a special lady like this I like to DATY. Who am I kidding, I like DATY with any women with decent hygiene. She really enjoyed that, Sargon is nearly a master of the art. Once she enjoyed as much as she can handle (sex should be like Chinese food, not over till everyone gets their cookies) she puts on a master class of DTBJ. My toes were literally curling. Then onto CFS (nothings perfect but I respect that unless agreed upon prior this is most likely how it will go down). She did the work and I enjoy it to the fullest. Short break and on to the Jacuzzi to relax after a hard days exercise. Sent her how with a nice donation to her continuing education.

    Now I am here slightly sun burnt and ready to sleep like a coma patient for at least eight hours. Tomorrow may be the day to skip the sight seeing and just spend time with the ladies. Between the Cialis and the TRT I really want to try for 4 - 5 shots on goal. My record is 8 but I was in my 20's back then..
    Hey Sargon,

    Awesome report. Can you PM me the contact details for your guide? Would you have felt safe in El Centro with a guide?

  9. #53100
    Quote Originally Posted by FlappyGilmore  [View Original Post]
    Hey man,

    I'm in MDE for a while also and looking to check out centro strip clubs. I'm on the centro patrol also and might blend in a bit better but my Spanish sucks. Let me know if you're up for grabbing a beer.
    Hey FlappyGilmore,

    I am definitely down to have some beers and check stuff out, swap notes etc. I would send you a PM to exchange contact info but it doesn't give me the option. I think you need a paid membership for us to PM, I have found it to be absolutely worth the 25 bucks.

  10. #53099

    My new favorite Colombian food item

    I found these "cuca" cookies at the Exito the other day and they have been a great source of flirting and banter with some of the chicas I see. As most of you know cuca is a broadly used Latin American term for pussy. So when my amiga asked me what I was doing the other day, I told her "comiendo cuca. Quieres venir a comer cuca conmigo" and sent her this photo. Anyway I think the fact that there are pussy cookies tells you something about Colombia and attitudes about sex.
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  11. #53098
    Hi,

    I'm traveling to Medellin in around 1 week. Parque Lleras in Poblado was suggested as the best place to stay, I'd like to meet regular or semi pro girls so have a less business like transaction.

    What can I expect to pay on average and where would you suggest I go for bars and clubs?

    Thanks.

  12. #53097

    Day 2, much better

    So much better tonight. Did a tour of Colonia 13 today with my guide. Fun times, but it was a lot of exercise.

    My guide set me up with a girl he and some people I know highly recommend. So far this guy has had my back and helped me a ton so I am down.

    19 year old college girl. Absolutely, for me, a 10. Like OMG what is this girl doing with a guy like me. Slender body, small firm tits, amazing ass and thighs, gorgeous face, beautiful mocha skin, soft and firm in all the right places. Took her out for a nice meal and she was smart and fun to talk to via google translate. We even tried teaching each other how to speak each others language. True GFE. After dinner we go back to the apartment. Excellent DFK and then she nips of to the bathroom. Comes out in shear lingerie with the leather strapy things. So Sargon is not into BDSM, maybe a little and only if I am the Dom. But damn the outfit got me going. We abscond to the bedroom. There more DFK and then she give an amazing BBBJ with DT. After a time she ask for condom but with a special lady like this I like to DATY. Who am I kidding, I like DATY with any women with decent hygiene. She really enjoyed that, Sargon is nearly a master of the art. Once she enjoyed as much as she can handle (sex should be like Chinese food, not over till everyone gets their cookies) she puts on a master class of DTBJ. My toes were literally curling. Then onto CFS (nothings perfect but I respect that unless agreed upon prior this is most likely how it will go down). She did the work and I enjoy it to the fullest. Short break and on to the Jacuzzi to relax after a hard days exercise. Sent her how with a nice donation to her continuing education.

    Now I am here slightly sun burnt and ready to sleep like a coma patient for at least eight hours. Tomorrow may be the day to skip the sight seeing and just spend time with the ladies. Between the Cialis and the TRT I really want to try for 4 - 5 shots on goal. My record is 8 but I was in my 20's back then.

    Osteoknot. Dude I respect your game. You advice is solid, the problem isn't finding the dirty diamond I want in Centro. The problem is that I felt so unsafe, every eye was on me. No Bueno. I would go if I had my squad here with me but Sargon is old and his friends have scattered to the four winds. My wingman, in who I have complete confidence, noticed we were getting cased by the good squad and we beat a hasty retreat. My street sense is garbage but even I could tell that the animals could smell the fresh meat. Maybe it was my imagination but maybe not. If someone with a lot experience here had my back I would give it another try but my friend doesn't want to go back and I am not flying solo. Hit me up on the PM if you want to chat about it.

  13. #53096

    Your username fits

    Quote Originally Posted by DriftClouds  [View Original Post]
    The flight landed 5:45. Took the bus to San Diego mall. Right in front of the mall I see claro so I purchase the sim card there. The guy was super patient and nice. But we have language barrier so he was typing the whole time and I apologize for the inconvenience. So it took about an hour to get that sim card. Then it was around 8. The money exchange place closed. Took the taxes to the hotel. Center of the Poblado. Not much going on. Because I didn't have large amount of cop. I didn't go inside the clubs. The street hookers seems okay but not my type. I rather pick facebook girls. Then I walked every single streets at the Poblado area. Zero action going on at the traffic park. The another park is sealed under construction. Finally I saw a tiny window shows money exchange. I changed about enough to get laid. Then there are guys on the street ask me multiple times to go to their bar, no cover fee, I was like, alright. And then I went in. All the girls there just waitress. They are not hookers. Because I don't speak English. The waitress serve me two beers when I said check out in English. It was super awkward. The guy pull me in the clubs told me I can dance with the girls if I buy them cocktail. I said alright, any of them speak English and willing to exit the bar with me? He told all the girls about my idea and none of the girls approach me. One of the girls smile at me like she was looking at a horny virgin. Then I back to the hotel. Texting facebook girls. Some never responde. Some said it is too late now. Looking at my hottub that I didn't have a chance to use. Damn, that is a bad start. I got to pull my shit together.
    You are a Drifting Cloud. That's kool. I don't know your timeframe or goals but you can let a lot of Medellin come to you without over planning.

  14. #53095
    New student here.

    I've been running the gammut of emotions the past few weeks. I'm visiting SW USA for work in May and I have decided to fly somewhere for some P4 P. Initially, I focussed on Cuba. Not for P4 P but for a fun vacation. But the forum on here (all 100 pages that I read) was a bit of a downer in terms of the current situation. I then looked to Bogota, which I would love to visit, but Medellin has a greater pull for me for many reasons. So. Despite the additional cost and time eating into what is already only a 6-day trip, I'm making the extra flight to Medellin.

    I had planned to visit in November 2021 but cancelled due to COVID. I was due to stay at La Mansion, but although I have no doubt that it is great for first timers, I think I'm comfortable enough to hopefully find a guest-friendly airbnb. That is my current main task.

    I'm hoping to ask about the FB situation. I'm curently RTFF (The last 50 pages anyway) and I'm hoping that someone would be generous enough to reach out to me with a few known current FB options form which to start my search. Last time, when I was planning for my November trip, I started with 'happy ending Medellin' and made a few contacts from there, through which I scanned friends lists etc and had some good options. But I have struck out so far, albeit it ihas only been a week. I'm not getting any accepted friend requests. Maybe I've been blacklisted! Jajaja.

    I just need to get a small thread to pull to get things going.

    Also, rather off topic, but I'm looking to take some 1-on-1 dance classes when I'm in town (salsa). Does anyone have any knowledge / recommendations for anyone I can reach out to? The places I've found online seem to be a bit gouge-why in terms of 1-on-1 costs, aimed very much at the gringo $. I'm already quite experienced, so just looking to sharpen skills and hopefully find someone to accompany me to some dance clubs on a couple of evenings. Not expecting anything more, obviously.

    Thanks!

  15. #53094

    Centro buddy

    Quote Originally Posted by Sargon76  [View Original Post]
    Batting. 500 on facebook. 1st girl looked good in her photos but had put on about 20 lbs since then she was just barely acceptable, barely. Also I haven't gotten laid since October of 2019 so I was going to hit it if she was a 3. She was a 4 so it was on. Gave a decent GFE with DFK, DATY, but sadly CBJ and CFS. She wanted double (400 k) for BB, nope. The jacuzzi was nice she spent 4 hours with me because when you are with Sargon it's party, we had some absolute vodka and we ordered El Coral.

    Good time but I have a 19 why / o college student that I am taking out for a fancy dinner and a hard session after tonight. She came very highly recommend from some friends. Going to treat her like a princess and then like a. Well you know. The message board censors that word! LOL!

    Second girl last night was a 5 out of ten, more deceptive photos. She was a absolute spinner but you can tell it's because she hasn't had a decent meal in a month. WTF. She gets here and she is kind of out of it, after just having a 4 hour long GFE, I was up for either GFE or PSE. This girl did want to talk much, I know google translate is kind of a drag but it ain't that bad. So not 5 minutes in we go into the bedroom, get naked and well shit. She used to have nice tits, but she ain't been eating and the look deflated. But Sargon is going to solder on! We get on the bed and she isn't letting touch her much, no bueno for me. But she says lay back and let me work (I think that what she said I have about 20 words in Spanish and most of them involve saying Hello). She then proceeds to give me the least inspired hand job of my life (which is saying a lot). And then she does the big no-no in Sargon's world, she is watching the clock. Deal was 2 hours, two leches, 200 k. Now she's says it 1 hour. I am not happy, I stop the action and say what's up. She starts to cry (I hate that, I am not into the are word, Sargon is a conqueror but a conqueror of love!) she then starts telling me some bullshit story about how she has only been doing this 15 days (oddly specific, don't ya think?) and she just got pregnant and the father got murdered last month and her mother is throwing her out of the house...
    Hey man,

    I'm in MDE for a while also and looking to check out centro strip clubs. I'm on the centro patrol also and might blend in a bit better but my Spanish sucks. Let me know if you're up for grabbing a beer.

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