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  1. #53116
    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    So how do they get away with charging so much at those places if there are no attractive ones?
    Weekend warriors don't really care about the price, which is fixed at La Isla and is less than 100 USD, not sure about San Diego or Fase Dos. When you have zero sex in the States, any average looking girl or girl next door becomes very attractive. Beer goggles help a lot too.

    Last week I went to La Isla with another ISG member, it was our last night in Medellin before we headed back. All my FB and SA dates flaked that night, so I had no other options. Talent at the club was average, but I did session though, just because I wanted to bust a nut. Average looking girl, average all covered session, at 320 k cop. I've been to La Isla before, I knew what to expect, so no surprises here, just wanted to pop my last load before heading back home.

    BTW, girls at La Isla (and Gusto) are all dolled up to the nines and look sexy in those tiny dresses, but once the clothes come off and the lights are on, you realize that they are just average looking older chicks.

  2. #53115
    Quote Originally Posted by Tasss  [View Original Post]
    No offense and do correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't you use to flex on this board like you only went for 9's and 10's and those 9/10's don't go for 200 k-250 k. The second part might still be true, but people have told you then and you also know now that the higher the price the worse the service. The fact is the looks don't really make up for it. No one's going to argue that 500 k for a session with a 9 is cheap in USD terms, but unless you're a virgin who ejaculates in 1 minute, the experience is going to suck because that's how long she's going to give you to come.
    100% correct. But FB girls are not 9's and 10's.

    When I do encounter an 8 and above and it's a must have I will not argue on price unless it's just ridiculous.

  3. #53114
    Quote Originally Posted by JjBee62  [View Original Post]
    Like anything else, sex is a combination of skills. Would you rather save a few dollars and limit yourself to women who have no skills, or spend your time with women who earn every peso?
    The part you seemed to skip is that you do not know the combination of skills the provider has until you have first agreed on a price.

    You could have agreed to pay $500 just to find out the woman has no skills. You could have also agreed to pay $10 and later find out she performed as if she was earning $500.

    You test drive cars so you know the performance before you make the purchase. You rarely get to test drive a hooker before purchase.

    How much you agree to pay beforehand has zero to say about the quality of the sex, because you have no idea what it will be. You are gambling.

  4. #53113
    Quote Originally Posted by TjBrazil  [View Original Post]
    Working girls could be a dime a dozen but attractive ones aren't a dime a dozen. I didn't see one attractive hooker at gustos when I was there. I didn't see one at fase dos or San Diego club. La Isla had maybe 2 that were attractive.
    So how do they get away with charging so much at those places if there are no attractive ones?

  5. #53112
    Quote Originally Posted by TjBrazil  [View Original Post]
    True, that's why programmers make a lot to start and McDonald's workers make minimum. The difference in mongering is some girls are hotter than others and take better care of themselves. Working girls could be a dime a dozen but attractive ones aren't a dime a dozen. I didn't see one attractive hooker at gustos when I was there. I didn't see one at fase dos or San Diego club. La Isla had maybe 2 that were attractive.
    I'm going to correct that for you.

    There's a huge difference between pay for programmers depending on skills. Unfortunately, it's not always consistent. From my programming days I remember remarking "what idiot wrote this" on several occasions, only to find out the idiot was one of the big bosses.

    The pay difference doesn't always make sense for prostitutes either. There are some who lack the looks and lack the skills, but want the higher price. There are also some, although harder to find, who have looks and skills, but are working for much less.

    The trick, which most of us already know, is to find the girls you want, who provide the service you want, at the price you are willing to pay.

    If all you can afford are the cheapest girls, sometimes you might get lucky and find a good one. If you think that paying the highest prices will get you the best ones, sometimes you'll be right.

    What I try to do is find the girls with the look I want, then try to determine if they have the right attitude. Then it's just a matter of finding a mutually acceptable price.

  6. #53111
    Quote Originally Posted by RedMan0505  [View Original Post]
    Thank You.

    In broad strokes, the standard theory is pretty straightforward. When a lot of people can do the same job (working girls come a dime a dozen) , the wage for that job is pushed down (because more people can supply their labor). When it takes special skills or education to do a job, wages are pushed up, because fewer people can supply their labor. On the demand side, employers are willing to pay more for an employee that can make them more money.
    Take a look around and tell me how well your standard theory is working. There are all kinds of people who can flip burgers. It doesn't take a lot of skills to run a modern point of sale system. Yet at more than double minimum wage they can't find workers.

    All I can say is that you're lucky there are women who will fuck for money, because that belief means you're probably not getting laid twice by the same girl, unless she's getting paid or you're married to her.

    I used to hire "unskilled" labor 4 or 5 times a week. Over a 7 year stretch I probably hired nearly 1,000 different people, usually for 1 day. There's a huge difference between the person who is just there to get the minimum pay and the person who wants you to call him next time. There's a huge difference between the ones who need constant supervision and the ones you can just turn loose and let them do their thing. Not to mention the difference between those who will steal anything they can and the ones who are trustworthy and dependable.

    Then there are the ones who did nothing but complain, the ones who threatened my customers and the ones who threatened to rob me.

    While it is possible to sell pussy with no skills, hell there are trannies out there selling pussy without having a pussy to sell, there are a lot of skills nobody ever considers.

    1. The skill of looking at an old, fat, ugly customer and telling him how handsome he is.

    2. The skill of looking at a sad little penis that looks like it belongs on a Chihuahua and convincing the guy it's the biggest she's ever seen.

    3. The skill of not gagging over bad breath or nasty body odor.

    4. The skill of convincing the customer that she's having the time of her life.

    I've met quite a few mongers and not many are in the running for sexiest man alive. Yet most of the girls treat us like royalty.

    Try that some time. Go out to a dive bar. Find a 60 year old woman with a body that rates a -46 on the 1-10 scale. Pick one whose face looks like she took a face plant into the deep fat fryer. While you're at it, look for the greasy hair that hasn't been washed in 6 months, which goes well with the green teeth (all 7 of them). Go right ahead and convince her that she's beautiful, then take her home (to her place. If she gets in your place you might need a crane to get her out), and go to town on her. Eat that pussy and don't mind the stink. Stick your tongue down her throat. Fuck her, roll her over and fuck her again.

    Of course not all mongers are that bad, but some are. I've seen them. I've smelled them.

    That's just to illustrate, what you consider "unskilled" isn't unskilled. That's without all the other skills most of us have experienced.

  7. #53110
    Quote Originally Posted by HuskerDude  [View Original Post]
    What is your medical or pharmaceutical background? Jajaja I have a pharmacist license.
    I walk into any pharmacia in Colomibia (or sometimes the Olimpica supermarcado) and buy the Cialis in the box and the box has the holographic Lilly seal. I was told that the holograph seal is a little more expensive to try and counterfit so it gives me some piece of mind. Regardless I have bought it in Colombia dozens of times and it works great.

  8. #53109
    Quote Originally Posted by Tasss  [View Original Post]
    No offense and do correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't you use to flex on this board like you only went for 9's and 10's and those 9/10's don't go for 200 k-250 k. The second part might still be true, but people have told you then and you also know now that the higher the price the worse the service. The fact is the looks don't really make up for it. No one's going to argue that 500 k for a session with a 9 is cheap in USD terms, but unless you're a virgin who ejaculates in 1 minute, the experience is going to suck because that's how long she's going to give you to come.
    Maybe it's just my experience, but none of that is true, at least not 100% of the time. One of the first hookers I ever picked up, off the street in San Diego, back in 1989, was at best average looking and asking the same price as all the rest and she was complaining I was taking too long before I got my pants off. I had similar experiences in Tijuana and in the DR. Even had a few like that in Medellin.

    Last year a girl who works internationally as a model and charges more than the standard Facebook rates, kept going and going like the Energizer Bunny. I'd put her on my top 10 list for looks, body, service, enthusiasm and GFE, and she was one of the top 10 as far as her price (although less than 500 k).

  9. #53108
    Quote Originally Posted by Gabacho  [View Original Post]
    This has to be the biggest load of crap I've ever read.!
    Agreed. It is a laughable position. In any case what is a Mexican product, what is a USA product? We live in a global market place these days. Companies need to meet international standards, not local ones. Could you imagine that USA pharma companies (whatever that means) manufature their products in the USA? Not a chance! They have them made in backwaters far poorer and less developed than Mexican.

  10. #53107
    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    Because having a pussy and fucking someone requires no special skills. Half of the planet actually has one. All a hooker has to do is open her legs. Evidently a young, pretty chick with nothing else going for herself besides being able to open her legs really amazes some guys.
    Haha, that made me chuckle. Yep, a peanut seller will earn peanuts. I think guys that think a pretty girl deserves a sunstantial amount of money for having sex, must have lived lives in places where women use the act of sex to control them. Bcos last time I looked, sex is actually free if you can find a girl. So paying a small but adequte sum of money for a service that is natiural and easily obtainable, seems very reasonable to me.

  11. #53106

    Agreed!

    Quote Originally Posted by Gabacho  [View Original Post]
    This has to be the biggest load of crap I've ever read. You probably work for an American pharma company. Medications in Mexico and Colombia are just as good as their US counterparts. They have government agencies that control the manufacturing processes of pharmaceuticals just like in the US. They are tested for safety and effectiveness before they ever hit the market. I've been using mexican and colombian sildenafil for years and it works just the same as the viagra sold in the US. Get off of ISG with your big pharma propaganda bro!
    I would argue many medications are safer in Colombia than the USA. The Colombian medical system is superior to the USA in many ways!

  12. #53105
    Quote Originally Posted by JjBee62  [View Original Post]
    You got it exactly right. There's nothing wrong with paying a fair price to get what you want. After all you worked for your money. You should be allowed to decide how to spend it.

    If I want a better meal, I go to a better restaurant with better food and I pay more. If I want to stay in a nicer place, I don't go to a $15 a night hotel and I don't go to a nice hotel and insist they only charge me $15 per night. I pay the price appropriate for what I want. And if I want a chunky 30-40 year old woman, I don't hop on a plane. I just go to any bar, smile, buy a drink and take one home. Why waste time and money traveling to pay for what just about anyone can get for free?

    I don't understand the weird comparisons. The price at McDonald's is the price at McDonald's. The food at one McDonald's is the same as at another McDonald's. It's not negotiable, it doesn't vary.

    Let's try a real comparison. If want a nice filet, I don't go to McDonald's, pay $50 and pretend one of their hamburgers is the same as a filet. I head to a restaurant where I can get a nice filet. I don't tell them I'm only paying the same as I would pay at McDonald's and I'm not paying the filet price and asking the waiter to go get me a burger from McDonald's. I get the filet and I pay for the filet.

    As for taxis in Bogota. You walk out of the terminal and hop on the bus to Portal Eldorado. It's free. You get off the bus buy a card for the TransMilenio, get on the bus going to where you want to go. It costs less than 3 k and it's usually quicker than a taxi.

    Or use an app, or get one of the airport taxis. Whatever works for you. If paying or saving 10-15 k is going to have any impact on your visit, then you've got a lot bigger problems than what someone else is spending.
    Exactly, I'm not going to fly 12 to 15 hours to Rio, and see Gabbie Carter's twin on the beach in a thong bikini, and when she says 200 reals, I tell her no way. It's 100 reals or nothing. It could work or she could say this guy is a jerk and end all discussions from that point. 50 bucks was more than fair. Hell, I would have paid 100 dollars. I lucked out that she only asked for 50 bucks equivalent. I quit going to Rio 10 years ago because the exchange rate made every girl 200 dollars or more, so I decided to try different places. If I can get a hot girl for up to 100 dollars, I'm happy. If the exchange rate goes to hell again, and we are at 200, I will stop going.

  13. #53104
    Quote Originally Posted by Jake2738  [View Original Post]
    I went to both of these places within the last week, so I thought I would give a review of each and compare.

    Esperanza is in Poblado which makes it more convenient than Happy Massage since Happy is in a place where not many mongers would stay. I took an Uber to Happy for like $3, so it's still pretty accessible.

    In terms of price, Esperanza was 130 k while Happy was 185 k for body on body massage.

    I'm terms of the whole experience, Happy really did feel like luxury which is why it costs more I guess. The person responding to you on WhatsApp is fantastic and speaks English. You arrive and it's really professional. The masseuse leads you to the room and the room is very nice.

    In terms of the massage, the massage by Happy was so much better. The woman at Happy was like a 9 in my book while the Esperanza woman was like a 7 or 8. Both really hot, but the Happy masseuse was crazy hot. Also the massage and the whole experience was so much better at Happy. Like obviously we're not really going for a massage, but the Happy masseuse actually gave a really good massage. And in terms of the sexual components she was much better as well. She was great at the body to body part and was really good at "accidentally" touching your dick while massaging. Then she also gave a way better HJ at the end as well.
    Thanks for the info. So those prices include the HJ? IS there a BJ option? If so, how much more? I'm not much of a HJ guy. Can do that better myself. Jaja.

  14. #53103
    What is your medical or pharmaceutical background?

    His friend that is a Mexican pharmacist that doesn't recommend Mexican pharmaceuticals.

  15. #53102
    Quote Originally Posted by Sangnyc21  [View Original Post]
    This I agree with.

    FB girls who use to take 200-250 saying they won't come out for so little money anymore.

    This is the problem I have with providers because even if you agree to their terms you now know they won't be the same as when they were hungry to make the 200-250.

    And this blame falls solely on the weekend warriors who get so fucked up and don't care if they get lousy service.
    I have been on trips where I've told half a dozen "popular" ladies the same thing after they quote me a nutty charge: "OK. I only have XXX mil and if you want it you know how to get in touch with me. No hard feelings and have a nice week".

    I'd say 10% to 20% of these "stars" contacts me during the week (never a Friday or Saturday, obviously) and agrees to my price.

    It is always enough to fill out my horizontal workout schedule to my satisfaction. The most important thing to know about MDE is that the numbers (volume of working ladies) are forever on your side.

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