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  1. #52739

    Entertain

    Quote Originally Posted by ArinBlack  [View Original Post]
    To me, that's like you entertaining her. You're paying so you don't have to do any of that. Now, drinking a glass of wine as she massages you could be fine. Share a beer with your friends, not prepagos.
    Okay so this is completely subjective, but for me when I travel to monger, I'm usually traveling alone. I might make some friends off of ISG and meet up sometimes, but for the most part, we're all doing our own thing. Some days I'll spend most of the day on my own, going from casa to casa and fucking whatever chicas are there that interest me. Other days where I have no plans, I'll walk around, head to a mall, sit down and browse the internet for an hour or two on my phone or tablet, and sometimes meet a nice looking waitress or meet someone sitting by me, buy them a drink (it's Colombia, it's cheap as fuck) and chat with them. I know from the way I look that I can't pull a girl without a lot of effort and / or time on my part, so I try to steer the conversation over to me telling them I'm American and just visiting a short while, and asking if they have plans later or if they want to exchange numbers. This lets them know I'm not there to get into anything serious, I'm not there for long, and it's an opportunity for them to make some quick decent money on the side.

    What does this bring me? A girl who will most likely go out with me on a date or two, maybe go together on walks, and have someone to eat lunch or dinner with at a restaurant. And the best part? The girl will go back to my place, we'll spend more time together, have some fun. The built up chemistry just makes things way more fun. And the time with her will most likely be way, way cheaper than paying girls by the hour at casas or off websites.

    This also ties into Tinder / Facebook / Instagram. I've got tons of girls I've met through the apps and I'll have my pick of the litter when I touch down in Medellin next month. I already have one university girl lined up to stay with me for a few nights, for only 500 thousand COP per day, and she'll pretty much do what I want. You can't really beat that.

  2. #52738
    Quote Originally Posted by ArinBlack  [View Original Post]
    It is expected of these women to provide good sex. That's why I'm paying. Zero entertaining has to happen from my end, nor shall it. I'm paying her (more if necessary) for good service. That's totally independent from everything else. If she expects you to do that it's a trait of a chica that is likely to not service you well. I'd sooner pass her up. This is why it's important to gauge their agreeableness in the opening negotiations.

    It's worth noting also that some guys just want to feel like the girl actually likes them, and will put their personality out there more to feel good about themselves. I have no such interests.
    I don't post enough but just wanted to point out how short sighted this approach is. You can absolutely pay for good sex, a simple exchange of money for services and there is no limit of chicas offering that in Colombia (or any part of the world). But what you will miss out on are many hidden extras that you only get when a girl has a good time in your company. I've had girls wanting to stay the night at no extra cost but plenty of extra sex, girls hanging out for hours just chilling and fucking, again no extra cost, girls doing many extra 'services' for no extra cost that were not agreed before hand but they wanted to do because they enjoyed the vibe and were having a nice time. You can absolutely pay for all this but that way always feels a lot more mechanical to me, having a girl get ready to leave then unzip your trousers to give you one last impromptu blow job before she heads out is a hell of a lot better than giving her 50 k to do it.

    Put it this way, you ever chill in a bar and get along with the bar staff and they give you a free shot? Generally feels better than paying for it, but maybe that's just me. Worth noting I'm not aiming for those 9's, prefer a little hotty who's a 7 or 8 who I can chill with and then go wild with in the cama, the service is usually much better in my experience but that's just me.

  3. #52737
    Quote Originally Posted by MadMax9336  [View Original Post]
    Very interesting discussion on this supply and demand vs Inflation.

    Well I am counting days / hours to reach Colombia this weekend after 2 years of isolation.

    After getting the feedback from many members, I am having second thoughts of cancelling 4 points by Sheraton (pablado) and book San peter hotel in Laureles.

    Unfortunately the rooms are sold out for Feb 20-25 dates. That means demand is really pent up for at least guest friendly hotels.

    Now back to love motels, by keeping the current Sheraton as is and take the FB girls to the nearest love motel would be the best option at this time unless experts give any other suggestion.

    Not interested in short term rental and would be better of to take the love motel but the cost quickly adds up by maintaining two accommodations where I might end up bringing only one FB girl a day or repeat the same person for few days if I like them. So far few chics contacted and pretty much all have kids though they are pretty young looking (from FB pics), so I highly doubt they even stay for the entire night.

    On this topic, first time chatting with FB girls for this dead and no one has announced / asked their price and I did not disclosed from my side either. Is it normal to have the session for few hours and pay them while they are leaving even without confirming the price upfront? (after reading few blogs. Depends on the GFE experience I am getting ready to pay 150 k to 200 k range)..
    You can try Lifeafar, Poblado Suites. They have chica friendly rentals in Poblado at fairly reasonable prices. No personal experience with them, but someone on ISG has stayed there.

    If you are going with the Love Motel option, Las Cabanas is probably the closest to the Parque Lleras area. However, if you're getting in a taxi already, you might as well take another 5-10 minutes and go to Motel Ibiza. It's not too far, the rooms are excellent and the price is around 100 k for 6 hours (just over $25), plus whatever you get from the mini bar.

    All rooms have a jacuzzi, sound system, stripper pole, very nice rainfall shower plus a refrigerator full of various drinks, along with bubble bath for the jacuzzi, lube, condoms, some snacks and some basic sex toys. There's also a full catalog of toys, lingerie and even costumes, along with a full menu. All interaction is through a cabinet in the room, where they bring anything you order and the bill when you're finished. Entry, the taxi pulls up to a video board, you tell them whether or not you want a room with a sauna, or just one with the jacuzzi. They will give you a room number, taxi drives around to the flashing sign with that number, you get out, go in the open door, push the button to close the door and go upstairs. You're locked in until you pay the bill. There's no face to face interaction, unless they still have a security guard at the gate checking cedulas.

    I've probably taken 20 girls there and they all ooh and ahh over it.

    It's probably best to clarify a price before heading to a room. Many Facebook girls will bring it up, to make sure you know it's not free. There are 2 main camps on this. Some say you tell the girl what you will pay. To me that might be a problem. If the girl is hoping for a lot more than you offer, it's often over before you start. However, if you ask Cuanto quieres? Whatever she answers you're still in the game.

    For example, if she throws out "400", but you don't want to go over 200 k, you can respond with:

    "400 mil pesos? Que rico amor, te entiendo. Pero siempre pago 200 Mill por un rato. Quizas encuentro te un otro theía."

    "400 thousand pesos (on the chance she means dollars)? How wonderful (how rich, but the meaning is closer to wonderful), but I always pay 200 thousand pesos (un rato is an indefinite time. It could be 45 minutes or 3 hours). Perhaps I can meet you another day."

    This accomplishes a few things. First, it defines that you're talking in pesos, not dollars. It tells her you're experienced and know the market and it allows her to save face. She can gracefully back out, or she can lower her price. While she probably won't come down to 200 k, there's a good chance at 250 k. You can decide if you want to part with another $13.

    You can substitute whatever numbers you're comfortable with.

  4. #52736
    Quote Originally Posted by Jay0940  [View Original Post]
    Mr. E was referring to puta economics, which generally work in reverse of normal economics. For example, in Thailand, despite it making no sense, girls increase their prices during periods of time when customers are in short supply, thinking they have to get more from the customers that are there. Yes. This makes no sense economically. But. Since when do women do anything that makes sense.
    Oh yes yes Puta economics. A brand new field of economics. I believe the father of this new field is Professor Ostee. He certainly has a lot of empirical data and awesome stories with pictures. I wouldn't mind taking a class in Puta economics from Prof Ostee.

  5. #52735
    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    What is good sex?
    I've been at this for 60 years it's very simple I'll get my rocks off. 😆.

  6. #52734
    4000 now? I'm about 2 weeks away from getting on JetBlue.

    Quote Originally Posted by MiamiSammy  [View Original Post]
    It appears you failed to complete high school in either country, and you certainly didn't pass economics.

    Point 1. Excessive supply drives prices down.

    Point 2. Anyone seriously concerned about a minor increase in the price of Colombian chicas in an economy where there are $4000 COP to $1 USD isn't someone who has a right to be taken seriously.

  7. #52733
    Quote Originally Posted by MiamiSammy  [View Original Post]
    It appears you failed to complete high school in either country, and you certainly didn't pass economics.

    Point 1. Excessive supply drives prices down.
    Looks like you have not been around Latin America long if you are trying to use first world classroom economics in third world real world situations. Know your audience!

    I was riding with my ex girlfriend in Nicaragua to a lake. When she stopped to turn left, the car behind slammed us square in the ass. And guess who was driving? An underage, unlicensed female with her dad in the car. This case is shut before it is even opened in the first world. But in the third world it does not work like that.

    The first step was to leave the car in the middle of the road holding up traffic for an hour and a half until the police could get there to see what happened. The next step was my girl lost the case and had to pay for the damage herself because the other guy got to the judge first.

    Quote Originally Posted by MiamiSammy  [View Original Post]
    Point 2. Anyone seriously concerned about a minor increase in the price of Colombian chicas in an economy where there are $4000 COP to $1 USD isn't someone who has a right to be taken seriously.
    Looks like you were also not around when the USD went to 1600 pesos in Colombia, nor when the USD went from 1 to 4 in Brazil to 1 to 1.59. I guess you are living for today because tomorrow is not promised, whereas others are living today remembering what has happened before. Economies do not stay to your advantage forever. Smart people do what they can to protect from future disadvantage.

  8. #52732

    Puta Economics

    Quote Originally Posted by MiamiSammy  [View Original Post]
    It appears you failed to complete high school in either country, and you certainly didn't pass economics.

    Point 1. Excessive supply drives prices down.

    Point 2. Anyone seriously concerned about a minor increase in the price of Colombian chicas in an economy where there are $4000 COP to $1 USD isn't someone who has a right to be taken seriously.
    Mr. E was referring to puta economics, which generally work in reverse of normal economics. For example, in Thailand, despite it making no sense, girls increase their prices during periods of time when customers are in short supply, thinking they have to get more from the customers that are there. Yes. This makes no sense economically. But. Since when do women do anything that makes sense.

  9. #52731
    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    Appears you neither attended high school in Latin America nor Southeast Asia. You increase prices to make up for not having demand.
    It appears you failed to complete high school in either country, and you certainly didn't pass economics.

    Point 1. Excessive supply drives prices down.

    Point 2. Anyone seriously concerned about a minor increase in the price of Colombian chicas in an economy where there are $4000 COP to $1 USD isn't someone who has a right to be taken seriously.

  10. #52730
    Quote Originally Posted by JjBee62  [View Original Post]
    I'm pretty sure most of the guys here don't walk around with an erection. For at least some of us, your method has absolutely no appeal. It's just a small step up from jerking off, and you don't have to buy a plane ticket and spend money for that.

    I admit I'm weird. I consider women to be people and treat them accordingly. I could buy beer for my friends and often do, but my friends can afford to buy their own beer. If they can't afford to buy their own beer, they should reevaluate the whole mongering thing.

    I occasionally enjoy a beer or a cocktail and like to eat, at least sometimes at a decent restaurant, and I enjoy company. I could get together with a friend, have a drink, eat a meal and then go find a girl, but my number 1 priority in traveling, isn't to spend all my time with my friends. So instead, I have a girl, or 2 or even 4 come over and we have a drink, maybe eat something, either in the apartment, or at a nearby restaurant. Sometimes we'll hang out in the jacuzzi. Once I played strip hangman with 3 girls. It's not my fault they wanted to use English words. All it cost me was a bottle of coke and 2 pizzas.

    The point is, except for the added cost for food and drinks, there's no cost for the extra time spent being a decent human being, and there are almost always extra benefits that you'll rarely get in a casa.

    Over 4 years ago, I had a girl meet me at a mall. We ate a nice dinner, went to see a movie, had a drink and then returned to my apartment. We had a good time. A few hours later she woke me up by sucking me until I was ready and then rode me until the sheets were soaked. In the morning, she woke up and did it again. I spent about 60 k entertaining her and another 200 k for about 4 hours of full GFE sex. 4 hours in a casa is 280-360 k, but good luck finding a girl who will fuck you for 4 hours straight in a casa.

    About 2. 5 years ago I met up with another girl at a mall. I bought coffee for her and her neighbor, who she had helped buy a new phone. Afterwards, the neighbor went home and me and her watched a movie. We both had other plans for the night, so I spent 30-40 k for nothing. The next day she asked if she could come see me. She wanted me to take some pictures and videos of her. Another 2 hours, with lots of pics and videos, and I got a very nice return on my 30-40 k investment. I didn't even have to pay for her taxi.

    It all depends on what works for you, or what's in your budget.
    I love your style.

    I like to take the girls out.

    It's much more fun.

    Guess the guy does not have much money to entertain LOL.

  11. #52729

    Excelente!

    I like her hip-2-waist "ratio".

    I bet it's at least 1. 4.

    What don't you measure that and let me know how close I was. BTW, a 1. 5 ratio is "DIVINE" so the closer to such ratio the more feminine and attractive the body.

    Be. S: currently in Turkey and researching west Africa as my Madagascar is impossible to visit!

    Quote Originally Posted by Williston  [View Original Post]
    Longtime lurker and I have so many stories and photos to share from here in Medellin but as this is time sensitive I wanted to check with anyone that is in Medellin if they wanted to get together to have a few beers and watch the Superbowl in Poblado?

    If not I am thinking of heading to Patricks Irish Pub near Parque Lleras as I'm sure they will have it playing there. I'd love to meet some of yall and compare some notes.

    I've been in Medellin for a few months and my spanish is literally a 1. 5/10 but I've found a few longtime chicas from SA that I've effectively wifed up and able to alternate between. One of them in particular might have the best ass known to man at least for a skinny chick. And of course like the majority of Latin women she fucks like a savage and can orgasm basically on command. I find that in gringas that is missing. The easily and readily available orgams. There's nothing quite like when a chick can cum 5 times and by the 5th she says something like "quiero venir juntos" meaning I want to cum together. The ability to sync up orgasm truly does push things to a level that's hard to beat!

    This ass is why I can't ever go back to pasty white chicks with no ass. Once you enjoy a round cinammon colored ass its hard to go back.

  12. #52728
    Quote Originally Posted by ArinBlack  [View Original Post]
    It is expected of these women to provide good sex.
    What is good sex?

  13. #52727
    Quote Originally Posted by LuckyNuts  [View Original Post]
    I don't believe there's a right or wrong style on this. It's just a matter of personal preference for each guy. Personally I'm more towards your style and want the action started within a few minutes of the chica entering my apartment. But I also like to sit and chat a few mintues first to "read" the chica and figure her out a little bit. And having a drink first helps with that. I don't see it as entertaining her as much as it is entertaining me jaja. I hate it if a chica tries to peel off her clothes before I tell her it's time. On the other hand I rarely dine them and never pretend they are my girlfriends but I know many guys do that stuff and hey that's all just part of the fantasy they are paying for. To each their own.
    When it comes to the streetwalkers, I think I'd definitely like to take this approach. I'm not in a rush. I'll feel them out and pick one with a good personality that seems like she really wants to please. Thanks for the reply.

  14. #52726

    Bingo, winner, winner, chicken dinner

    Quote Originally Posted by LuckyNuts  [View Original Post]
    I don't believe there's a right or wrong style on this. It's just a matter of personal preference for each guy.
    And so many variables. How long will you be in Medellin? Is this your first visit or your 20th? What developmental stage are you in life? What are your resources? So many more. And like you said, what is your personal style that you enjoy the most? The parameters for what defines a successful sexual encounter are broad and simple. Two consenting adults, and no one gets hurt. The latter has got a large gray zone but there is no need to muck it up, especially here and now. Keep On Keepin' On.

    Fotos include my cherry 1995 Nissan 300 ZX Twin Turbo, she looks stock but we nurged about an extra 200 HP out of her with bolt-on mods.
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  15. #52725

    Love motels

    Quote Originally Posted by Osteoknot  [View Original Post]
    But for time management, I must beg off this argument. Go gettem' Tiger.
    Very interesting discussion on this supply and demand vs Inflation.

    Well I am counting days / hours to reach Colombia this weekend after 2 years of isolation.

    After getting the feedback from many members, I am having second thoughts of cancelling 4 points by Sheraton (pablado) and book San peter hotel in Laureles.

    Unfortunately the rooms are sold out for Feb 20-25 dates. That means demand is really pent up for at least guest friendly hotels.

    Now back to love motels, by keeping the current Sheraton as is and take the FB girls to the nearest love motel would be the best option at this time unless experts give any other suggestion.

    Not interested in short term rental and would be better of to take the love motel but the cost quickly adds up by maintaining two accommodations where I might end up bringing only one FB girl a day or repeat the same person for few days if I like them. So far few chics contacted and pretty much all have kids though they are pretty young looking (from FB pics), so I highly doubt they even stay for the entire night.

    On this topic, first time chatting with FB girls for this dead and no one has announced / asked their price and I did not disclosed from my side either. Is it normal to have the session for few hours and pay them while they are leaving even without confirming the price upfront? (after reading few blogs. Depends on the GFE experience I am getting ready to pay 150 k to 200 k range).

    I am thinking of meeting FB chicks and the mall or coffee shop and see the vibe. If everything seems to be what I expected, then will take to the nearest love motel otherwise treat them few beers / food and send them back with taxi money.

    Appreciate any suggested love motel below $50 with some jacuzzi / pool near Sheraton hotel or in that vicinity?

    At Osteoknot at JjBee62 counting on you and kudos to you both for keeping the thread live.

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