Medellin Reports

[Osteoknot]

After reading all these posts I think what we can agree on is attitude trumps looks by a good margin? I guess the question is how much can a great attitude make up for in the looks department. Don't know about you but doesn't matter how great the attitude is from a glue sniffing anorexic chica from el centro has, there is definitely a line all of us are not willing to cross. Interesting thought though, for my upcoming trip I'm going to make an effort to find the best positive attitude chica I can find regardless of what she looks like. As Mr Eternational says though its almost impossible to tell until you're both but naked in bed but there are some tell tail signs to look out for beforehand.

He is a rarity around here because he is demonstrating these three constructs at the same time.

Intelligence.

Common sense.

Street smarts.

I bet you will enjoy your time in Medellin. If you add passion or love to the list you will have the time of your life.

[Osteoknot]

This is not true unless maybe your referring to the total price including the girl's fee and the hotel. I was just there this morning bro, Hotel Botero Real (the red hotel). It used to be 7 k and now it is 8 k (un rato / half hour) and for an hour it used to be 14 k and now it is 16 k COP.

I was trying to be helpful but I could have gotten my facts wrong. I was there. I experienced it. My Spanish is good enough to comprehend it. I even asked the chicas I was with at the time if there were different prices on different days, because I did not think their answer made sense the first time and they said "no". Probably, I fucked up. Been known to happen, more than once or twice. I am a Truth Seeker so misinformation cuts me like a knife. Thanks for the help. Lesson learned.

[Nounce]

Getting (or fucking) 10's or finding 10's? Two different things. Read my prior post again. 50 sounds like a good number but spread out over different cities. Then he has to make them reply, negotiate the price / terms, finally meet in person. I'm awaiting his report, hopefully, with a few photos of his 10's.

I already analyzed about situation like yours. You need to be cream of the crop to date cream of the crop. In reality, men likely are dating the lower tier relatively speaking in online dating situation. The reason you are getting it is because you are sharing it. I know someone who does not have problem getting what he wants. He has money but little time so he always line up several girls a day. His deal with girls involves luxury items and cash. When a girl can't make it, the girl introduce another smoking hot girl as replacement. He is not handsome but his generosity makes him the cream of the crop.

So I am wondering why Elvis wears a suit, now it all makes sense.

Have you been to Scandallo? Many think that place has enough 10's. All you have to do is willing to pay for it.

[JjBee62]

As explained to me by several providers, they don't want to wind up on the Internet. A webcam girl I know was fed a line of bullshit by the studio manager. He told her the site is not reachable from Colombia. Her last day as a webcam girl was the day I showed her the site using a spoofed address. She was horrified.

Absolutely. On all of the webcam sites I'm familiar with the model (or studio) can block access from an entire country. In the US they can block by the state and I think the city in some cases. However, you can get around the block with a VPN, although not all VPNs work on all the sites.

This happened with a model I was working with. Someone from her family found her on the webcam site she used. Both her and her husband came from estrato 6 families. I think the guy was one of her cousins. He told the family and it caused a huge problem for her. She took a month off and came back, but she wasn't the same.

Fortunately, she made enough money to open her own business, very close to Parque Lleras. Last time I talked to her she was doing very well.

[Mechanic88]

I will be in MED in a few days and was wondering if anyone here was also making the trip? I'm staying at the San Peter Apts, got a top floor soundproof room (yeah right). As this is my first trip, was wondering if anyone would want to meet up, I'll buy the beer for your advice!

I have done some homework, lurked a bit as I planned my trip trying to stack the deck in my favor. I invested in a travel safe, bought and configured a secure travel Wi-Fi router, and other mentioned necessities. Also, I successfully chatted up chicas to snag about 25 WhatsApp numbers from Tinder. They all promised to meet but if I end up closing escrow with a half-dozen, it was worth the time. Will be working the clubs, La Isla (and Gustos, and the couple of casas that I read to be good. Probably hit a strip club or two as well, not really my scene but why not?

I plan to report on my exploits to pay it back for all I gleaned here. Let me know if there's anything else I should be adding to the agenda. Thanks guys!

I'm flying tomorrow.

[MiamiBoy1]

Don has no problem getting 10's.



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Getting (or fucking) 10's or finding 10's? Two different things. Read my prior post again. 50 sounds like a good number but spread out over different cities. Then he has to make them reply, negotiate the price / terms, finally meet in person. I'm awaiting his report, hopefully, with a few photos of his 10's.

[ShamusMcGee1]

I will be in MED in a few days and was wondering if anyone here was also making the trip? I'm staying at the San Peter Apts, got a top floor soundproof room (yeah right). As this is my first trip, was wondering if anyone would want to meet up, I'll buy the beer for your advice!

I have done some homework, lurked a bit as I planned my trip trying to stack the deck in my favor. I invested in a travel safe, bought and configured a secure travel Wi-Fi router, and other mentioned necessities. Also, I successfully chatted up chicas to snag about 25 WhatsApp numbers from Tinder. They all promised to meet but if I end up closing escrow with a half-dozen, it was worth the time. Will be working the clubs, La Isla (and Gustos, and the couple of casas that I read to be good. Probably hit a strip club or two as well, not really my scene but why not?

I plan to report on my exploits to pay it back for all I gleaned here. Let me know if there's anything else I should be adding to the agenda. Thanks guys!

[Paulie97]

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[Nounce]

1. We are talking about smoking hot girls, not just "above average".

2. What girls you are talking about? Parque Lleras? El Centro? Sure, when you show up there, all eyes are on you (and your wallet).

3. When she has 2000 men all wanting to fuck her, negotiating a price is indeed difficult.

4. Why do they flake? Her regular just messaged her he is in town wanting to meet. Or a higher offer just came in. Her friend just offered a free photoshoot. Etc, etc, etc. Good looking girls get a lot of attention and benefits, and are very selective for that reason.

How do you define a success? Is merely getting laid a success for you? Sure, picking up El Centro girl for a quick fuck doesn't require much effort. All you need is a dick and 40 mil. For me, a success is when I get what I really want, the way I want (and that is not an average looking chica or lousy service). High effort, high reward.

You have to read what JB wrote again. Your don't seem get it based on reading what you wrote. One thing JB says is the success rate is low which is basically what you are saying. You also are not counting what you go thru like now, or most of the time we read your posts. Sure you got high reward, but it also seems you are paying for it in some way too which can cancel out the reward that many choose to move on.

Don has no problem getting 10's.

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There are too many women and not enough time to meet. And once I land there will be even more. I downsized from over 200 (with their numbers, texting etc.) to only around 50 but in different cities all over Colombia. Most are 10's. They are all nice people. My penis is apparently running the show. So I increased the time in Colombia to 2 months. I figure 10 of these girls will want long term relationships. If I fall in love, it won't be the first time. I hope to meet them and return to close a deal with someone, maybe more than one. Help Elvis! . I feel kinda bad about that. But you only live once.

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I have a great usa friend. He has 2-3 10's every day. Its very rare tgat any of his girls are anything but 10's. They are all "smoking hot", even the ugly ones. They are all really keen on him too, even though he knows only 5-6 words of spanish, and they all love having sex w him, even the ones that don't.

[El Viajero]

And how are you going to rate performance beforehand? You just plan on picking a bunch of ugly chicks in hopes they perform better than they look?

Still don't know why these are the 2 choices. What about the 7 with an attitude or the 9 that wants to rock your world? Why are these not options as well? Do all 9s have attitudes? Do all 7s want to rock worlds? Of course I will accept a car that does not look all that good but gets me places over one that just sits in the driveway looking good but does not run. But I would rather have a car that looks good and gets me places if I have that choice. You guys act like that is not an option.

After reading all these posts I think what we can agree on is attitude trumps looks by a good margin? I guess the question is how much can a great attitude make up for in the looks department. Don't know about you but doesn't matter how great the attitude is from a glue sniffing anorexic chica from el centro has, there is definitely a line all of us are not willing to cross. Interesting thought though, for my upcoming trip I'm going to make an effort to find the best positive attitude chica I can find regardless of what she looks like. As Mr Eternational says though its almost impossible to tell until you're both but naked in bed but there are some tell tail signs to look out for beforehand.

[MiamiBoy1]

1. They are difficult to find. I can easily find 20 girls who are above average in looks in the time it takes to find an exceptional girl.

2. It can be hard to get their attention. Drop down one notch and getting their attention requires having a pulse. I get the attention of 15 girls a week by doing absolutely nothing.

3. It can be hard to negotiate a price. When you have 2,000 women all wanting to see you, negotiating a price is simple.

4. They flake or ghost you. Even after overcoming all the other obstacles, you end up with nothing to show for it? For me that's a deal breaker. I'm fine with spending the time searching and I know how to get their attention. I'm willing to pay the price to get what I want. However, after doing everything, I'm probably going to have to start over from the beginning?

I think that's what Turgid and Villainy are saying. Why put all your effort into some endeavor which rarely succeeds, when you can have guaranteed success with very little effort?

1. We are talking about smoking hot girls, not just "above average".

2. What girls you are talking about? Parque Lleras? El Centro? Sure, when you show up there, all eyes are on you (and your wallet).

3. When she has 2000 men all wanting to fuck her, negotiating a price is indeed difficult.

4. Why do they flake? Her regular just messaged her he is in town wanting to meet. Or a higher offer just came in. Her friend just offered a free photoshoot. Etc, etc, etc. Good looking girls get a lot of attention and benefits, and are very selective for that reason.

How do you define a success? Is merely getting laid a success for you? Sure, picking up El Centro girl for a quick fuck doesn't require much effort. All you need is a dick and 40 mil. For me, a success is when I get what I really want, the way I want (and that is not an average looking chica or lousy service). High effort, high reward.

[JjBee62]

And how are you going to rate performance beforehand? You just plan on picking a bunch of ugly chicks in hopes they perform better than they look?

That one is simple. You pay attention. When you're talking or messaging with the girl, you evaluate her responses. Is she just giving the simplest responses, or is she putting in some effort? If you found her on Facebook, check out her page. Is everything self-centered? Does she have any interests other than just posting selfies?

While none of that is definitive, it helps to weed out the ones who are going to just give minimal effort.

Where did anyone mention ugly chicks? I think most guys wouldn't consider a 7 to be ugly, even if they are only looking for an 8-10.

Long ago I played a game whenever I went to a strip club. Obviously there were some dancers I found more attractive than others and some I didn't find attractive. The game was simple. Find the positive. Maybe the ugly girl was a great dancer, or really knew how to work the pole. Maybe she just had a great smile, or personality. It didn't mean I was ready to make it rain for the chubby girl. It just meant I looked for some aspect of each girl which I could appreciate. Not only did it make my night more enjoyable, but it helped me connect with the more attractive dancers. Every beautiful woman has at least 1 fat or ugly friend.

Still don't know why these are the 2 choices. What about the 7 with an attitude or the 9 that wants to rock your world? Why are these not options as well? Do all 9s have attitudes? Do all 7s want to rock worlds? Of course I will accept a car that does not look all that good but gets me places over one that just sits in the driveway looking good but does not run. But I would rather have a car that looks good and gets me places if I have that choice. You guys act like that is not an option.

This is simple as well. Nobody said there are only 2 choices. They both just stated that performance is at least as important as appearance. Some agree, some don't.

Ideally, each person decides what is more important to them.

[Elvis 2008]

The longer I travel, it is having the simple things that I want that matters most: a decent place to eat, good bed, electrical outlets, nice TV, and my God, just hot water. Maybe it is because the mongers have been so bad that in the past that the good hotels have charged through the roof guest fees, and we have been stuck with 2nd rate hotels like Hotel Haven.

My favorite mongering hotels were those in Mexico where the hotel lobby was like on the 6th floor and guest rooms were on floors much higher like the 9th floor and I could just zip by the lobby on the elevator and not have to worry about even checking someone in.

Well, Medellin has a hotel like that now. The Fairfeld Inn by Marriott just opened up, and it has all the amenities we Americans want and it is around $65 a night. The exact address is: Fairfield by Marriott Medellin Sabaneta, Cra. 43 A #50 sur 201, Sabaneta, Medellin, Antioquia.

If you put in Medellin and Fairfield into google maps, you will end up in a parking lot. You have to use the city of Sabaneta in your search.

It would be better if the hotel were closer to the action and to the airport, and I just had a fleeting one night glance but the city of Sabaneta had a nice new mall and it seemed safe to me. Maybe the experts can chime in with more.

If I were still in the game of screening women with SA, this hotel is for certain the one I would use.

Only reason I stayed there is my night flight to Cartagena got bumped until today. My loss is the gain of you guys here.

This is not the high end Marriott though. It is their low cost option. It is more like La Quinta or Holiday Inn than JW Marriott.

Maybe they will have a bellhop monitoring guests on the first floor in the future but for now, there was no one there.

[MarquisdeSade1]

You guys make a wrong assumption thinking that if she is a 9 her performance in bed will definitely suck. This assumption also makes you settle for less without even trying to hit on gorgeous girls. I have not had many 8's and 9's in my life, but I had a few, and never got an attitude or shitty performance from any of them, the best sex in my life, say top 5 in terms of performance, has always been with 8's and 9's. Just imagine, you are fucking a smoking hot girl and she is into you, and the sex is passionate and hot, and you are in heaven. This is what every monger should aim for. The real problem with 8's and 9's is not the performance (why would it be different? Hot or not, they are all human beings and love to fuck), the problem is as follows: 1. They are difficult to find. 2. Once you find them, it is difficult to grab their attention or to get a reply, if online. 3. Once they reply, it is hard to negotiate a price / terms. 4. The last one, it is hard to actually meet in person, because they flake or ghost you. But once you get to that point of meeting, her performance should not be an issue if you treat her right, have a good hygiene, etc. And if GFE is what you are looking for, don't go for escorts and hardened pros, otherwise you will have issues described in the recent post..

I have done some of the most beautiful 18 yo, 10's in the world, blonde haired blue eyed goddesses with no ink babies or implants.

Great, amazing sex swallowing my jizz and eating my ass like a porn star, but something is always lacking.

I believe ETooms wrote one day.

Some guys want to drive the expensive sports car.

But he said he rather be the expensive sports car being driven.

In other words, these 10's have large egos.

Guess what so do I (among other things) LOL.

I want them worshipping me, these 10's are used to guys kissing their feet (that's not me).

When I pay a puta for sex regardless of her 1-10 position.

I want her "worshipping me" I want them kissing my feet.

I don't pay 3rd world putas to kiss their asses (or any putas).

[Elvis 2008]

After getting bored with Medellin fairly quick, after all the ugly girls I saw, Is there a city in Colombia that has a beach as nice as Cancun. If I do go back I want to go to a different city but want to be next to a nice beach if they exist in Colombia.

That is funny, another guy bitching about women in Medellin. Tijuana, you have company here. Where have all the good ones gone? Cartagena is an expensive city but IMO the weather is perfect. High 80's during day, low 70's at night. It is not too big. It is a Caribbean city where the prices, though higher than the rest of Colombia, are much cheaper than the rest of the Caribbean world.

The beaches are dirt. The first time I saw them I thought them ugly. There are a few okay ones, but even though the beach is close, I do not go that much. Still, if you go to Bocagrande, the water is pretty clear, and it is warm. The better beaches are a 30 to 60 minute boat ride away on an island. I have been here 30+ days and done that once.

What I have appreciated more is the beach at back drop. I love watching the pelicans do their dive bombing routine looking for fish and the amazing sunsets. I chose to come back time and again to Cartagena because I like the weather, the food, the air. I did not like it that much at first, but it grew on me. Chances are the first time you see it you will not be that impressed.

As for the women, I have not done much here. Thing is that you have to hunt for the beauties IMO. They are there, at the malls ETC. I went to a dentist here, and she had loose scrubs on but I could see the amazing figure underneath it.

I am just not sure how much is left. I have taken one of the best, and I see all her friends and many are stunning. I just think the best ones have been snatched up. The others are in hiding. Guys from all over the world have been flying to Colombia to try out the women here.