Medellin Reports

[Nounce]

1. We are talking about smoking hot girls, not just "above average".

2. What girls you are talking about? Parque Lleras? El Centro? Sure, when you show up there, all eyes are on you (and your wallet).

3. When she has 2000 men all wanting to fuck her, negotiating a price is indeed difficult.

4. Why do they flake? Her regular just messaged her he is in town wanting to meet. Or a higher offer just came in. Her friend just offered a free photoshoot. Etc, etc, etc. Good looking girls get a lot of attention and benefits, and are very selective for that reason.

How do you define a success? Is merely getting laid a success for you? Sure, picking up El Centro girl for a quick fuck doesn't require much effort. All you need is a dick and 40 mil. For me, a success is when I get what I really want, the way I want (and that is not an average looking chica or lousy service). High effort, high reward.

You have to read what JB wrote again. Your don't seem get it based on reading what you wrote. One thing JB says is the success rate is low which is basically what you are saying. You also are not counting what you go thru like now, or most of the time we read your posts. Sure you got high reward, but it also seems you are paying for it in some way too which can cancel out the reward that many choose to move on.

Don has no problem getting 10's.

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There are too many women and not enough time to meet. And once I land there will be even more. I downsized from over 200 (with their numbers, texting etc.) to only around 50 but in different cities all over Colombia. Most are 10's. They are all nice people. My penis is apparently running the show. So I increased the time in Colombia to 2 months. I figure 10 of these girls will want long term relationships. If I fall in love, it won't be the first time. I hope to meet them and return to close a deal with someone, maybe more than one. Help Elvis! . I feel kinda bad about that. But you only live once.

and this

I have a great usa friend. He has 2-3 10's every day. Its very rare tgat any of his girls are anything but 10's. They are all "smoking hot", even the ugly ones. They are all really keen on him too, even though he knows only 5-6 words of spanish, and they all love having sex w him, even the ones that don't.

[El Viajero]

And how are you going to rate performance beforehand? You just plan on picking a bunch of ugly chicks in hopes they perform better than they look?

Still don't know why these are the 2 choices. What about the 7 with an attitude or the 9 that wants to rock your world? Why are these not options as well? Do all 9s have attitudes? Do all 7s want to rock worlds? Of course I will accept a car that does not look all that good but gets me places over one that just sits in the driveway looking good but does not run. But I would rather have a car that looks good and gets me places if I have that choice. You guys act like that is not an option.

After reading all these posts I think what we can agree on is attitude trumps looks by a good margin? I guess the question is how much can a great attitude make up for in the looks department. Don't know about you but doesn't matter how great the attitude is from a glue sniffing anorexic chica from el centro has, there is definitely a line all of us are not willing to cross. Interesting thought though, for my upcoming trip I'm going to make an effort to find the best positive attitude chica I can find regardless of what she looks like. As Mr Eternational says though its almost impossible to tell until you're both but naked in bed but there are some tell tail signs to look out for beforehand.

[MiamiBoy1]

1. They are difficult to find. I can easily find 20 girls who are above average in looks in the time it takes to find an exceptional girl.

2. It can be hard to get their attention. Drop down one notch and getting their attention requires having a pulse. I get the attention of 15 girls a week by doing absolutely nothing.

3. It can be hard to negotiate a price. When you have 2,000 women all wanting to see you, negotiating a price is simple.

4. They flake or ghost you. Even after overcoming all the other obstacles, you end up with nothing to show for it? For me that's a deal breaker. I'm fine with spending the time searching and I know how to get their attention. I'm willing to pay the price to get what I want. However, after doing everything, I'm probably going to have to start over from the beginning?

I think that's what Turgid and Villainy are saying. Why put all your effort into some endeavor which rarely succeeds, when you can have guaranteed success with very little effort?

1. We are talking about smoking hot girls, not just "above average".

2. What girls you are talking about? Parque Lleras? El Centro? Sure, when you show up there, all eyes are on you (and your wallet).

3. When she has 2000 men all wanting to fuck her, negotiating a price is indeed difficult.

4. Why do they flake? Her regular just messaged her he is in town wanting to meet. Or a higher offer just came in. Her friend just offered a free photoshoot. Etc, etc, etc. Good looking girls get a lot of attention and benefits, and are very selective for that reason.

How do you define a success? Is merely getting laid a success for you? Sure, picking up El Centro girl for a quick fuck doesn't require much effort. All you need is a dick and 40 mil. For me, a success is when I get what I really want, the way I want (and that is not an average looking chica or lousy service). High effort, high reward.

[JjBee62]

And how are you going to rate performance beforehand? You just plan on picking a bunch of ugly chicks in hopes they perform better than they look?

That one is simple. You pay attention. When you're talking or messaging with the girl, you evaluate her responses. Is she just giving the simplest responses, or is she putting in some effort? If you found her on Facebook, check out her page. Is everything self-centered? Does she have any interests other than just posting selfies?

While none of that is definitive, it helps to weed out the ones who are going to just give minimal effort.

Where did anyone mention ugly chicks? I think most guys wouldn't consider a 7 to be ugly, even if they are only looking for an 8-10.

Long ago I played a game whenever I went to a strip club. Obviously there were some dancers I found more attractive than others and some I didn't find attractive. The game was simple. Find the positive. Maybe the ugly girl was a great dancer, or really knew how to work the pole. Maybe she just had a great smile, or personality. It didn't mean I was ready to make it rain for the chubby girl. It just meant I looked for some aspect of each girl which I could appreciate. Not only did it make my night more enjoyable, but it helped me connect with the more attractive dancers. Every beautiful woman has at least 1 fat or ugly friend.

Still don't know why these are the 2 choices. What about the 7 with an attitude or the 9 that wants to rock your world? Why are these not options as well? Do all 9s have attitudes? Do all 7s want to rock worlds? Of course I will accept a car that does not look all that good but gets me places over one that just sits in the driveway looking good but does not run. But I would rather have a car that looks good and gets me places if I have that choice. You guys act like that is not an option.

This is simple as well. Nobody said there are only 2 choices. They both just stated that performance is at least as important as appearance. Some agree, some don't.

Ideally, each person decides what is more important to them.

[Elvis 2008]

The longer I travel, it is having the simple things that I want that matters most: a decent place to eat, good bed, electrical outlets, nice TV, and my God, just hot water. Maybe it is because the mongers have been so bad that in the past that the good hotels have charged through the roof guest fees, and we have been stuck with 2nd rate hotels like Hotel Haven.

My favorite mongering hotels were those in Mexico where the hotel lobby was like on the 6th floor and guest rooms were on floors much higher like the 9th floor and I could just zip by the lobby on the elevator and not have to worry about even checking someone in.

Well, Medellin has a hotel like that now. The Fairfeld Inn by Marriott just opened up, and it has all the amenities we Americans want and it is around $65 a night. The exact address is: Fairfield by Marriott Medellin Sabaneta, Cra. 43 A #50 sur 201, Sabaneta, Medellin, Antioquia.

If you put in Medellin and Fairfield into google maps, you will end up in a parking lot. You have to use the city of Sabaneta in your search.

It would be better if the hotel were closer to the action and to the airport, and I just had a fleeting one night glance but the city of Sabaneta had a nice new mall and it seemed safe to me. Maybe the experts can chime in with more.

If I were still in the game of screening women with SA, this hotel is for certain the one I would use.

Only reason I stayed there is my night flight to Cartagena got bumped until today. My loss is the gain of you guys here.

This is not the high end Marriott though. It is their low cost option. It is more like La Quinta or Holiday Inn than JW Marriott.

Maybe they will have a bellhop monitoring guests on the first floor in the future but for now, there was no one there.

[MarquisdeSade1]

You guys make a wrong assumption thinking that if she is a 9 her performance in bed will definitely suck. This assumption also makes you settle for less without even trying to hit on gorgeous girls. I have not had many 8's and 9's in my life, but I had a few, and never got an attitude or shitty performance from any of them, the best sex in my life, say top 5 in terms of performance, has always been with 8's and 9's. Just imagine, you are fucking a smoking hot girl and she is into you, and the sex is passionate and hot, and you are in heaven. This is what every monger should aim for. The real problem with 8's and 9's is not the performance (why would it be different? Hot or not, they are all human beings and love to fuck), the problem is as follows: 1. They are difficult to find. 2. Once you find them, it is difficult to grab their attention or to get a reply, if online. 3. Once they reply, it is hard to negotiate a price / terms. 4. The last one, it is hard to actually meet in person, because they flake or ghost you. But once you get to that point of meeting, her performance should not be an issue if you treat her right, have a good hygiene, etc. And if GFE is what you are looking for, don't go for escorts and hardened pros, otherwise you will have issues described in the recent post..

I have done some of the most beautiful 18 yo, 10's in the world, blonde haired blue eyed goddesses with no ink babies or implants.

Great, amazing sex swallowing my jizz and eating my ass like a porn star, but something is always lacking.

I believe ETooms wrote one day.

Some guys want to drive the expensive sports car.

But he said he rather be the expensive sports car being driven.

In other words, these 10's have large egos.

Guess what so do I (among other things) LOL.

I want them worshipping me, these 10's are used to guys kissing their feet (that's not me).

When I pay a puta for sex regardless of her 1-10 position.

I want her "worshipping me" I want them kissing my feet.

I don't pay 3rd world putas to kiss their asses (or any putas).

[Elvis 2008]

After getting bored with Medellin fairly quick, after all the ugly girls I saw, Is there a city in Colombia that has a beach as nice as Cancun. If I do go back I want to go to a different city but want to be next to a nice beach if they exist in Colombia.

That is funny, another guy bitching about women in Medellin. Tijuana, you have company here. Where have all the good ones gone? Cartagena is an expensive city but IMO the weather is perfect. High 80's during day, low 70's at night. It is not too big. It is a Caribbean city where the prices, though higher than the rest of Colombia, are much cheaper than the rest of the Caribbean world.

The beaches are dirt. The first time I saw them I thought them ugly. There are a few okay ones, but even though the beach is close, I do not go that much. Still, if you go to Bocagrande, the water is pretty clear, and it is warm. The better beaches are a 30 to 60 minute boat ride away on an island. I have been here 30+ days and done that once.

What I have appreciated more is the beach at back drop. I love watching the pelicans do their dive bombing routine looking for fish and the amazing sunsets. I chose to come back time and again to Cartagena because I like the weather, the food, the air. I did not like it that much at first, but it grew on me. Chances are the first time you see it you will not be that impressed.

As for the women, I have not done much here. Thing is that you have to hunt for the beauties IMO. They are there, at the malls ETC. I went to a dentist here, and she had loose scrubs on but I could see the amazing figure underneath it.

I am just not sure how much is left. I have taken one of the best, and I see all her friends and many are stunning. I just think the best ones have been snatched up. The others are in hiding. Guys from all over the world have been flying to Colombia to try out the women here.

[Gabacho]

The Hotel Botero or Real, the closest hotel to the front door of the Vera Cruz church increased their price for 30 minutes from 25 mil COP to 30 mil COP, and for one hour from 50 to 60 mil COP. As I alluded to before, the baseline rate for a no-frill encounter has increased from 30 mil COP to 40 mil COP. Every chica I have talked to has told me their rent went up, food prices went up. Metro fares went up, all in the past two months. Ostee Out.

This is not true unless maybe your referring to the total price including the girl's fee and the hotel. I was just there this morning bro, Hotel Botero Real (the red hotel). It used to be 7 k and now it is 8 k (un rato / half hour) and for an hour it used to be 14 k and now it is 16 k COP.

[Knowledge]

As explained to me by several providers, they don't want to wind up on the Internet. A webcam girl I know was fed a line of bullshit by the studio manager. He told her the site is not reachable from Colombia. Her last day as a webcam girl was the day I showed her the site using a spoofed address. She was horrified.

The camera shy thing is probably business related. Webcam customers mostly need the fantasy that the girl isn't available to anyone, but would be available for them, if they ever went to visit. Some of them will completely meltdown over any indication that the model is involved with any other man. If you posted a picture of her somewhere and one of her tippers saw it, they would probably get really angry with her.

[Knowledge]

All the hotels around Veracruz raised their rates. The cheapest of them went up 1,000 pesos, the mid range places like mentioned went up 5,000. I have not noticed a change in the price of girls, 25,000 to 30,000 consistently but of course YMMV.

The Hotel Botero or Real, the closest hotel to the front door of the Vera Cruz church increased their price for 30 minutes from 25 mil COP to 30 mil COP, and for one hour from 50 to 60 mil COP. As I alluded to before, the baseline rate for a no-frill encounter has increased from 30 mil COP to 40 mil COP. Every chica I have talked to has told me their rent went up, food prices went up. Metro fares went up, all in the past two months. Ostee Out.

[Mr Enternational]

I'm willing (in fact delighted) to trade a point or two on the looks scale if I get those points back on the performance scale.

And how are you going to rate performance beforehand? You just plan on picking a bunch of ugly chicks in hopes they perform better than they look?

Give me the 7 that wants to rock my world instead of the 9 who has an attitude

Still don't know why these are the 2 choices. What about the 7 with an attitude or the 9 that wants to rock your world? Why are these not options as well? Do all 9s have attitudes? Do all 7s want to rock worlds? Of course I will accept a car that does not look all that good but gets me places over one that just sits in the driveway looking good but does not run. But I would rather have a car that looks good and gets me places if I have that choice. You guys act like that is not an option.

[JustTK]

Give me the 7 that wants to rock my world instead of the 9 who has an attitude that I should thank my lucky stars that she even bothered with me.

I have a great usa friend. He has 2-3 10's every day. Its very rare tgat any of his girls are anything but 10's. They are all "smoking hot", even the ugly ones. They are all really keen on him too, even though he knows only 5-6 words of spanish, and they all love having sex w him, even the ones that don't.

[JjBee62]

After getting bored with Medellin fairly quick, after all the ugly girls I saw, Is there a city in Colombia that has a beach as nice as Cancun. If I do go back I want to go to a different city but want to be next to a nice beach if they exist in Colombia.

Why see ugly girls when there are beautiful girls everywhere? If you couldn't find a beautiful girl in Medellin, you won't be able to find one anywhere in Colombia.

If the beach at Cancun is the place you would rather be, why not just go to Cancun? This is the thing which always confuses me. Guys post on here asking if Medellin has places like they enjoy in other countries. Just go to the other country. While you might find some really good sushi in North Dakota, if you're looking for a place just like one in Tokyo, you're going to be disappointed with North Dakota's best.

My opinion is people should visit a city or country because of what that city or country has to offer, not because they offer something similar to another place. You won't find a Cancun in Colombia.

[JjBee62]

You guys make a wrong assumption thinking that if she is a 9 her performance in bed will definitely suck. This assumption also makes you settle for less without even trying to hit on gorgeous girls. I have not had many 8's and 9's in my life, but I had a few, and never got an attitude or shitty performance from any of them, the best sex in my life, say top 5 in terms of performance, has always been with 8's and 9's. Just imagine, you are fucking a smoking hot girl and she is into you, and the sex is passionate and hot, and you are in heaven. This is what every monger should aim for. The real problem with 8's and 9's is not the performance (why would it be different? Hot or not, they are all human beings and love to fuck), the problem is as follows: 1. They are difficult to find. 2. Once you find them, it is difficult to grab their attention or to get a reply, if online. 3. Once they reply, it is hard to negotiate a price / terms. 4. The last one, it is hard to actually meet in person, because they flake or ghost you. But once you get to that point of meeting, her performance should not be an issue if you treat her right, have a good hygiene, etc. And if GFE is what you are looking for, don't go for escorts and hardened pros, otherwise you will have issues described in the recent post. This doesn't have to do anything with the looks, you could fuck an average looking Parque Lleras girl and get equally shitty service, I think we all have been there, done that. My point is that don't assume just because she is hot, you will get disappointed in bed, just don't bother with escorts.

I don't see where anyone made that assumption, at least not recently. Both Turgid and Villainy just reported on specific situations, one where a possible 8 or 9 had attitude issues and the other where a 6 or 7 gave an excellent performance.

I can't say what number rating is appropriate for the women who have given me the best sex of my life. Mainly because, except to make a comparison, I don't use a number scale. Another reason is that there are too many factors in "the best sex" ranking. When I think about the 5-10 top contenders for my #1 sex experience slot, they are all different. There's also the problem that some of them I had sex with several times and not every time was spectacular.

My mood, her mood, how attractive each finds the other, the location, the atmosphere, whether or not there's an emotional connection, how responsive each is to the other's actions, are just some of the factors for me.

The experience can also change drastically while it's happening. I've had sessions which started out average and then finished amazing and vice versa.

While I think most would agree, fantastic sex with a girl who they consider highly attractive is the best, not everyone is willing to jump through all the hoops and deal with all the issues to only seek those experiences.

1. They are difficult to find. I can easily find 20 girls who are above average in looks in the time it takes to find an exceptional girl.

2. It can be hard to get their attention. Drop down one notch and getting their attention requires having a pulse. I get the attention of 15 girls a week by doing absolutely nothing.

3. It can be hard to negotiate a price. When you have 2,000 women all wanting to see you, negotiating a price is simple.

4. They flake or ghost you. Even after overcoming all the other obstacles, you end up with nothing to show for it? For me that's a deal breaker. I'm fine with spending the time searching and I know how to get their attention. I'm willing to pay the price to get what I want. However, after doing everything, I'm probably going to have to start over from the beginning?

I think that's what Turgid and Villainy are saying. Why put all your effort into some endeavor which rarely succeeds, when you can have guaranteed success with very little effort?

[Kmyassets]

Hello,

All I am new to the thread, I have been scouring it for days trying to get prices for women all night. You've given the 200 k rate in gustos, la Isla, parque Lleras, etc.

What would the all night rate be in those places? It is my first time. I plan on hitting Gustos, La Isla (but not so confident in that based on what I've read) outside in Parque LLeras?