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[Maelkavian]

Glancing through some of the threads here, is it safe to say that Ecuador is the best bargain in S.A.?

I am not familiar with all of the best mongering destinations, but if I am reading correctly that typical brothels charge around $20 for a girl, than that is pretty damn cheap. And hotel rates at $20 per night?

I prefer having girls come to my hotel. From what I see that is just as inexpensive?

It depends.

From my point of view, Colombia and Paraguay are better in terms of look, performance, and the price is very similar.

Probably even better.

You can find promotions for trios in the casas of Medellin or Cali, for example, and Paraguay hidden brothels are not expensive (but deserve their name).

But the so friendly Colombia can sometimes turn really hot, and Paraguay is too sleepy for most of people.

I can't speak for Brazil, but it seems most reports say it's great if not a bit pricey.



Ecuador offers a peaceful, structured, fun sex market.
Quito is well-kown on the map, thanks to our volcanic Tungurahua!
Lots of ISGers have already told how fun it is to add quickies one after the other for around 10 bucks each...
A first puta to cure your dickache and dry your leche, and the next two to your 1.50 dollar entrance fee.
Enjoy!

But, I'm not sure it's often mention here, it's not specially hard to score regular girls if you speak spanish.
On the coast, Manabi, Esmeraldas, you can find easy meat if you're discret. They're poor, sweet, naive girls; take advantage but don't screw everything being an asshole.
I said "if you're discret" because word on mouth is damn fast: little provincial towns.
If you like black s(k)in, Ibarra is a quiet town in a valley, surrounded by a lake and flower fields. And ways less dirty than Esmeraldas.
So much ebony here, but not the light-skin beauties you see in Porto Viejo, or the reddish-brown indians of the mountains.
I personnaly tested the hospitality of a milf I meet during a bus trip who spontaneously show me the (naked, of course) pics taken by her ex-german fuckfriend.
She really wants me to come to her home, looking for money to cover her son football expenses; I agree after making a point that, as a young guy, I need to fuck fresh pussies too, and need introduction.
And I don't want to appear as a mean gringo in front of so many noble teethless fellows. A gentleman must help a lady in distress.
Finally, thanks to her son, the soccer dream, and Nike prohibitives prices, I soon know well her nephews, the friends of them, etc.
It was indeed a victory, but in these places where everyone know what your eat for breakfast, I prefer to have some local help, a hand (among other things) tenderly given !


Quito and Guayaquil are quite big, impersonnal cities. Commercial and college neighboroods are good pick-up fields. Be careful: if you like teens, there is lot of high-school little things, hungry for foreigners, and who don't hesitate to lie about their real age. Very likely to the Peruvians.
Hopefully, they're generally in group and wear uniforms, with those high-knees socks.
Maybe one day some Japaneses will know it's easier to fullfil their fantasms here than in S-E Asia...
The bar-scene of Mariscal, the salsotecas, are full during the week-end.



Ecuador also offer, in a tiny land, great cultural places, landscapes, if you're in green or cultural tourism, or just want to do something between two shags.
Bus travels are not fast (if they are, you're probably dead because of the driver), planes are regular. But even in the worst case, it's unlikely that you are more than a tenth hours far of your destination.

By, the way, hotel rates could be cheaper than 20 dollars.
So I think it's a nice country, and probably the better in SA for a short or first stay. And yes, among the cheapest.

[Nicebutthole]

Glancing through some of the threads here, is it safe to say that Ecuador is the best bargain in S.A.?

I am not familiar with all of the best mongering destinations, but if I am reading correctly that typical brothels charge around $20 for a girl, than that is pretty damn cheap. And hotel rates at $20 per night?

I prefer having girls come to my hotel. From what I see that is just as inexpensive?

[Davidb3069]

Here is not like in the US. You leave the tip you want to. In some places tips are included (you have to look at the fine print). It ussually is 10% of the total. Then they add a 12% tax. If they ask you for an extra tip it's up to you if you want to leave it. I don't.

The 10% on the bill is intended for the kitchen staff and those that aren't the server. The server is supposed to keep the tip you leave at the table. This is how it "should" work but it's not necessarily reality many times in restaurants as the owners steal the tips.

David B.

[Professor 1]

I will be in Ecuador and Colombia only.

Well, you can purchase pepper spray over the counter in a sporting good store at the Quicentro Mall in Quito. They have a most powerful brand that costs a few dollars. I tested it in the toilet, and nearly choked.

[James Tott]

Chaps do you have any information regarding buying Vitamin V or C in Quito. In Argentina they sale Local brand Sildenafil and Magnum with excellent performance and good value for money (If buy in bulk under a $ for 50mg)

Any information regarding brand name, where to buy it and price would be great help. And any comments on performance I. E. Vs Viagra or Cialis would be great.

Thanks

J

[Model500]

Hi,

I was just wondering what the service charge is when you go to a restaurant? Usually this is a tip in most places I've been to. But here I've been to places that charge it then ask for a tip as well.

So is it a tax or a tip or something else?

Thanks,

BB

Here is not like in the US. You leave the tip you want to. In some places tips are included (you have to look at the fine print). It ussually is 10% of the total. Then they add a 12% tax. If they ask you for an extra tip it's up to you if you want to leave it. I don't.

[Bigben0]

Hi,

I was just wondering what the service charge is when you go to a restaurant? Usually this is a tip in most places I've been to. But here I've been to places that charge it then ask for a tip as well.

So is it a tax or a tip or something else?

Thanks,

BB

[Jwdub]

Anyone know of a good dentist in Quito. I had some fillings done in Pattaya last year and had one fall out and I've heard that dental work is inexpensive in Ecuador.

Thanks

[OtravezEnColmbia]

Pepper spray is also illegal in some countries. I recall reading about some places that it would be treated the same as if you had a gun. So, double check that all places you're going that it's allowed.

I will be in Ecuador and Colombia only.

[Jaimito Cartero]

Ok I think i mistyped. I meant to say you obviously would put it on your checked baggage.

Pepper spray is also illegal in some countries. I recall reading about some places that it would be treated the same as if you had a gun. So, double check that all places you're going that it's allowed.

[OtravezEnColmbia]

You do not want to put pepper spray in your carry on luggage. This could land you in jail.

Ok I think i mistyped. I meant to say you obviously would put it on your checked baggage.

[Travel And Mate]

Hi Furysys,

People in Ecuador take about anything and don't do much about it, that's mainly why they are where they are. So the new currency will be accepted, especially when at first it will be presented as a 2 currency situation with parity (1:1) between them. Go to the Anal Connoisseurs Thread, it's much the same: first one finger, then 2 and then the main event :-)

Yes, black market, expending chica supply (for all the wrong reasons, granted) and some riots. On the other hand, Ecuadorians have thrown out 3 presidents so far (Abdala, Mahaud and Gutierrez) with a TOTAL of 3-5 days mild riots, 2 days airport closures and little or no consequences for tourists. Life went on as usual, except for the vicinity of the Government Palace and Congress.

So main effect MAY be for the Center chongos...Just go to the north ones as Chicas are not too politically active and would rather work then demonstrate in a tear gas cloud :-)

[Zperman]

Chucha. I didn't read the rules. Sorry.

[Furysys]

Tung & TM, thanks for the interesting read on the Ecuadorian economic situation. I have thought about that as well, how does a country which does not issue its own currency survive when their main export market has dropped substantially such as Ecuador? It would be interesting to see if people would even accept a local currency, except maybe at the point of a gun, it would create a massive blackmarket for US$, and yes, could lead to some interesting times in the chongos (almost said casas! )

All hell breaking loose of course has positives and negatives. I have never been to Ecuador, but wish to go late June, so after the upcoming elections, which I would assume Correa will win, even if he cheats. The negative is that one could wind up in a Thailand situation, riots and closing down the airport, so you can't get the hell out, but on the positive, keeps down the gringo rabble, so as chica supply expands, and demand drops, prices will of course follow, which is the exact opposite of what has happened in Medellin. Tung, I will be following your fascinating, onthespot reporting, forget CNN, ISG on the ground, far better!

[Zperman]

Hey Tunguraghua, [Non-English text deleted by Admin]

Further news browsing led me to some new twists in the story.

In the last post I noted Ecuador's foreign reserves plummeted from about $6 billion US to $4.5 billion US during Q4 2008. Social spending would account for some, sure, but nothing that drastic. It had me curious. Why the sudden drop?

Then I found this bit. Quote: "On Thursday (Dec11-2008) the Quito-based newspaper El Comercio reported that the government had quietly bought back $680 million in debt from foreign creditors in recent weeks. It has raised the possibility that Ecuador may have purposely been trying to drive down the value of its bonds on international markets, allowing the government to step in and buy them back for a fraction of the cost of honoring them and making a renegotiation of the debt easier now."

Dec 13 article: "Ecuador's President Rafael Correa said yesterday that his nation is defaulting on its foreign debt, fulfilling his longtime populist pledge to leave international creditors in the lurch. ... Bondholders could be in for a steep haircut, though perhaps no worse than current market value for Ecuador's debt. As expectations of a default grew since September, the value of Ecuador's bonds fell more than 65 percent, to 30 cents on the dollar before Correa's announcement at 2 p.m. yesterday. They sank below 24 cents on the dollar shortly after his announcement."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...204105_pf.html
http://seekingalpha.com/article/1161...fault-foretold

In the last post I noted : "Less than two weeks after the bond default Ecuador's state-owned Social Security Institute (SSI) said it will buy about $500 million in new government bonds after it purchased $700 million of the securities the week previous."

Hmmm, let's put the pieces together: $680 million in debt repurchased, repackaged and sold to SSI for the nice round figure of $700 million. Then another $500 million in debt purchased, sold to SSI. That would be $1.18 billion accounted for of the $1.5 billion in foreign reserves burned through in Q4.

If Correa repurchased Ecuador's debt at an average of 30 cents on the dollar, $3.9 billion could be bought for $1.17 billion. I do not know if this is a valid picture what is happening "behind-the-scenes" but the numbers balance.

I am no expert in international finance but one would think there would be a barrage of lawsuits launched if this is what Correa is doing. This strikes me as a derivative of "insider-trading" -- ??

Quote: "Critics say the government may be playing a high-stakes game of chicken with investors."

Other bits: "Ecuador has hired Lazard Freres, an advisory firm that helped Argentina after its debt default, to oversee the restructuring of $3.2 billion in unpaid global bonds, President Rafael Correa said on Saturday." (Jan17 article)

Quote: "“Ecuador is a serial defaulter,” said Arturo Porzecanski, an expert in international finance, emerging markets and Latin America economics at American University in Washington, D.C. “They defaulted in the 1980s, 1990s and this decade. A lot of other countries have had one or two defaults, but Ecuador tops them all.” Indeed, Ecuador has defaulted six times in its history (see Debt Defaults and Lessons from a Decade of Crises by Federico Sturzenegger and Jeromin Zettelmeyer)."

I have to laugh at this last quote. Ecuador has defaulted six times in its history. Averaging one default per decade in the last thirty years. One has to wonder who is the bigger idiot here. The people defaulting or the people financing?

Whatever the case, the optimistic scenario is Correa could navigate this high-stakes gamble to success. After the dust settles, say five years, a bunch of new lenders step in with billions more.

As all variables are never known, the pessimistic outcome is Ecuador driven off the highest of Andean cliffs by Correa and his advisors. As rockers System of a Down would sing: "Trust in my self-righteous suicide!"

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