Guayaquil

[ColoradoMonger]

I was in Guayaquil in mid-September. 2011, exporing the Malecon, when I "bumped into" a reasonably attractive, professionally-attired, middle-class looking 30-year-old female named "Ana / Anita". She said she was there on business from Lima, Peru, and her family business was women's undergarments. Soon we were holding hands, and I suggested we go to my or her hotel. She suggested mine, and that we pick up some beers on the way (by now, the more experienced among you are saying RED FLAG!). We get to my hotel and she heads up the stairs without leaving I'd at the front desk (red flag #2). We shower, do some sucking and fucking (and she says "Salud!" every time we change positions, and we drink) , I cum, clean up, return to bed, resume our conversation, and that's the last thing I remember for 15 hours. She obviously slipped a drug in my beer, probably when she exited the shower first and I was drying off. She took a couple of $75 cameras, all four memory cards (one with about 250 photos, the *****) , some personal items and maybe $100 cash. Fortunately she did not physically harm me, or find my hidden passport or credit cards, but she had full access to my suitcase while I was "out". I had heard of some Scopolamine druggings in Ecuador by hookers, but since she was not ostensibly a hooker (and she was not cute enough for me to pay to have sex with her) , she took me completely by surprise. Live and learn guys, and watch out for this scenario. Karma is a *****, and maybe her next victim will catch her and make her pay.

[Black Page]

So going during the day I assume is not an option? That is another good thing to know. When you posted it read like you had actually passed by these areas and were able to see them for yourself. Otherwise how else could you know there were 30/40 of them? The cab driver must have mentioned something. I assume.

I am trying to figure it out through you. You have to understand that when you say 30/40 chongos (in affordable ecuador) over 100, 000 ISG members pop a boner.

Three taxi drivers (I am scientific in polling people) told me the same: the chongos on the Perimetral are the only places where they would never go (to monger) and are countless (two said more then 30, when I asked).

For a city with 2millions people I would expect not less than 100 chongos in the area, not 30! Why 30/40 chongos would excite people so much? Let us just see the old lists of Tung in Quito. They list maybe 30/40 places, but are necessarily only a small part of what is available.

I repeat I don't see anything to be particularly excited about. It is not a zona de tolerancia. The Perimetral is at various km from downtown and by car it may take 30 mins to go there.

Next week I will be in Bogota and Medellin. I cannot wait to breath the air and feel the atmosphere of the bars of Santa Fe and of the Center of Medellin

[Black Page]

Artie boy has been to lots of chongos, in Peru, Ecuador, and I believe Guatemala, among other places. He's posted lots of useful reviews and has been on this board a fuck of a lot longer than you have been.

Thanks for the n-th lesson you seem to want to teach me, about writing casí instead of the correct casi, about the fun you have in Spain and Portugal, etc.

I've been knowing Artist since his adventures in Medellin with Tungurahua, years ago. I believe I have some confidence with him. Then what? May we limit posting here about reporting useful information?

[Artisttyp]

You are trying to figure a situation without ever having been here. How the heck can you figure out where are located these chongos, if you don't know the city? And why, by the way? Virtual tourism?

The Via Perimetral is the name of the big road which goes all around the city. You cannot figure out how is the place, because me too I cannot, having been in the city (a big one!) for a while, but never having ventured there in the night. In my post I am referring referred information, not my experience (when it's my experience I add details).

I repeat that it is not a place to go, alone and with American accent. That is not a red light district. It's a poor area. The suburbs of Guayaquil are full of bad people. Those chongos are there and thus they are in a no-go area for anyone who is not used to have a gun in the pocket AND not speaking like a local.

I bet that many taxi drivers would not wait for you outside.

This is a great report! This is what I wanted to know. So going during the day I assume is not an option? That is another good thing to know. When you posted it read like you had actually passed by these areas and were able to see them for yourself. Otherwise how else could you know there were 30/40 of them ? The cab driver must have mentioned something....I assume.

I am trying to figure it out through you. You have to understand that when you say 30/40 chongos (in affordable ecuador) over 100, 000 ISG members pop a boner.

You've done a great job. We are all thankful for your efforts.

[Dickhead]

Artie boy has been to lots of chongos, in Peru, Ecuador, and I believe Guatemala, among other places. He's posted lots of useful reviews and has been on this board a fuck of a lot longer than you have been.

'Perimetral' would translate as 'ring road. ' Like the US interstates that have three digit numbers beginning with an even number.

[Black Page]

Does perimetral mean "perimeter" OUTSKIRTS of town? I am trying to figure out where these 30-40 chongos are located. Do you need the taxi to wait for you or can you find one to return once you get there?

Can you walk from chongo to chongo in this area?

30/40 is a big deal no?

You are trying to figure a situation without ever having been here. How the heck can you figure out where are located these chongos, if you don't know the city? And why, by the way? Virtual tourism?

The Via Perimetral is the name of the big road which goes all around the city. You cannot figure out how is the place, because me too I cannot, having been in the city (a big one!) for a while, but never having ventured there in the night. In my post I am referring referred information, not my experience (when it's my experience I add details).

I repeat that it is not a place to go, alone and with American accent. That is not a red light district. It's a poor area. The suburbs of Guayaquil are full of bad people. Those chongos are there and thus they are in a no-go area for anyone who is not used to have a gun in the pocket AND not speaking like a local.

I bet that many taxi drivers would not wait for you outside.

[Artisttyp]

PERIMETRAL.

30-40 or even more chongos on the road #8 out of the Perimetral. Very cheap and dangerous, listening to everyone.

Does perimetral mean "perimeter" OUTSKIRTS of town? I am trying to figure out where these 30-40 chongos are located. Do you need the taxi to wait for you or can you find one to return once you get there?

Can you walk from chongo to chongo in this area?

30/40 is a big deal no?

[Black Page]

Sunday in Guayaquil (Ecuador?) is horrible. By law of the President, on Sunday it is forbidden to sell alcohol after 5pm. As a result, all places where people like to meet are closed.

I went to La 18 at 6:30pm: scary dark place, lonely and with some unreal atmosphere. Salomè is closed, and so El Gato, El Imperio, etc. Etc. EVERYTHING!

The taxi driver suggested to try some casa de citas, but I have no idea where to find them.

[Black Page]

Saturday night, I decide to try again El Gato. It's 11pm. El Imperio is very far and closes at 12. El Gato seems the best option.

ENTERING EL GATO

At the entrance, queue of young guys. The men at the door check the cedula to everyone (they did not yesterday) and search all bodies to ensure no weapons are entered.

I give $5 to the young guy who gets the entry fee, he gives me back $2 change. I think that the entry fee is $3 on Saturday and I leave. He calls me back for the additional dollar, when I am already far. So honest.

NEAR EL GATO

On the Avenida. 30 meters before the street going to El Gato there is a $7 chongo. I see the light and I ask the taxi driver and people waiting to enter El Gato. Everyone says it's mas barato and mas peligroso, but they never entered. It's the place I want to try next time.

Again on the Avenida, but after the street, there is La Rosa, another cheap chongo.

When I see them, I am not surprised to think that I never read a post mentioning them in the forum.

INSIDE EL GATO

Less people than yesterday! Less girls! I am surprised and I have no explanations for that. Maybe they are all busy in the rooms?

I take a nice tall girl, which is not the best looking, but looks kind enough to talk nicely to me for 10 minutes without pushing to go to the room.
Again, chongos are not the places to find GFE (oh how I miss Singapore and Batam!) , but she does her job with nice attitude, undressing all, changing 3 positions, and never telling me to finish.
BTW, her belly is still big, because she has a 3 months baby (I believe her, looking at tits and belly).

When we finish, taking all the time and not rushing, I open my smile and like I am doing something great I give her $5 tip. She smoothly tells me: "Faltan".
I think "oh shit I give the finger and she pulls the hand", but thinking to the baby I think I may give $5 more. She, still smoothly, tells me: "Faltan".
Then I say that I am sure that Ecuatorian never give more than $2 tip, but she, still smoothly and kindly, agrees with that, but reminds me that I DID NOT PAY THE $20 FEE YET.
Ooppps I forgot!
Still ashamed, I pay the $20 and I leave the $5 tip.

PERIMETRAL

30-40 or even more chongos on the road #8 out of the Perimetral. Very cheap and dangerous, listening to everyone.
One of the taxi drivers of tonight told me that some of them were closed by the police, after an assault to a truck on the road. The bandits escaped and hid into one of the chongos. The police had to search everyone in all chongos and then found lots of weapons, drugs, besides the stolen goods and the bandits.
As a result, many chongos were closed by the authority and are just reopening.
Not advisable to go, unless after a 2 months stay and having visited all others.

[Black Page]

Work is killing me. No time to venture into new lands till 11pm (but I did not skip a good dinner).
Tonight it's Friday. Many places close at 2am or so. Interestingly, querying taxi drivers does not give sure answers. Some told me 2am, another 12pm. Maybe he's right the one who told me that El Imperio closes at 12 also today (it's very far away).

I decide to probe El Gato. It's about 10-15 mins from Malecon del Salado (end of 9 Octubre), taxi priced $5.

Yes, I confirm: on weekends (but incl. Or excl. Sunday?) it closes at 2am.
Entry fee: $2 (including a beer served on the spot). Body search by the security.
Chica fee: standard $20, to be paid to the desk at the entrance of the upper flow ($15 are promply passed to the girl).
Price was recently raised, because rooms have aircondition. When I go with the girl (so yummy) , we both feel freezing and she asks a guy to come to switch it off. He does it and promptly asks a propina.

The area outside it's bad. At night, I guess ladrones are just waiting behind the corner to see if someone comes out and ventures too far (people coming in or out El Gato is supposed to have some cash or better).
The place however is good. It looks a strip bar, with stage and poles, tables, etc, BUT there are also rooms at the upper floor. What I was looking for.
It's Friday and it's packed of people, sitting at tables and making noise with music.

Girls are of all types, but the average look is the highest of all places I have seen in GYE so far. Hay buena pelada, as we comment with people at tables. I guess that today, Friday, also El Imperio must have more and better girls than when I visited it, on a slow Wednesday. Many girls are really exciting, still not so cinema-style to look fake as at Juniors. Choosing is really hard. On the other hand, we all know that best experience come NOT from the best looking girl, but from the average.

(Quiz: where did I see the BEST LOOKING WORKING GIRL in Guayaquil? She was incredible, sweet face and perfect body. How much? Answer at the end)

Surprise: when I enter, on the stage there are no girls dancing, but the dark-skin guy who was dancing like MJ at El Imperio 2 days ago. He must be a local star and makes significant money touring all strip bars in the area. I give him another tip, because he really deserves it.

People is of all types, but the average is higher than at El Imperio (of course, it's more expensive here).

I talk with a couple of nice guys from GYE (of course: I never saw any foreigner in these places in these days, although El Gato is exacly the place where a foreigner may go if still afraid to venture in lower-class places, yet avoiding expensive places like La Isla), who are very chatty and willing to recommend me girls and friends. Actually, commenting asses with people sitting at the same table gives another flavor to attending a chongo (but this is not a chongo: it's upper class, it's a strip bar with rooms upstairs).

I leave at 1am after doing my business with the girl I liked most. OK, but nothing to remember.

(Answer to the Quiz: at La 18, as reported in my first report from La18. Standard fee $7, left $10).

[Black Page]

Today I decided to focus my expectations to 10pm onwards, aiming at exploring some new places. Wrong choice. However, staying here 20 days calls for exploring new territories.

JUNIOR'S
One of my drivers claimed yesterday that Junior's is full of pelaitas. After a good T-Bone steak, let's go to have a look.
It's just a classic strip bar. It's located not far from the center, before La Isla.
Entry fee: $15, barra libre. I don't drink much, so I don't see the advantage.
The girls are actually WOWOW, but this is not El Imperio. You can give them the tip and have them dancing on your kness (you know, US style, but here you can touch, not like in Texas* ). There are also boots for private dances. From their look, I guessed that girls were Colombian, but I did not ask.
Upper-class patrons, including usual university students or looking like.
After half an hour, I left disappointed. I wanted a chongo, not a strip bar!

HABANA
I pick an old taxi outside. I ask for a chongo. It's 23:30, so it's too late, but the drivers tells me that we can try L'Habana. I ask what it is, and he tells me it's a bar with girls, mas barato que Junior's, but not so bad, neither more dangerous than La 18. He claims it may be open till 4am.
We reach it after crossing dilapidated areas, I guess at least 10 blocks South of 9 Oct before Salado.
The street looks scary. In front there are 4-5 cars and taxies. 5-8 people not quite upper-class. I understand why it can be open till 4am. The police must not attend it often.
Once inside, I see an empty place. 5-6 chubby girls. 10 men. I don't have the time to assess if it's dangerous. I guess people there was surprised to see me, because the DJ and a girl were staring at me. I decide to leave and I pick the first old car in front.

CASA PALACE
We make a tour for streets around 9 Oct. And Los Rios. The only nice SWs apparently work there, but I see only 1 of the 4 I know. In the blocks around, there are usually other girls, so we scout blocks to look what's around, but nothing.
After 12, everything is closed, so he takes me to Casa Palace, a discotec in the basament of Hotel Indira. 1 block from Salomé (let me repeat it: SALOME') , which is already closed.
Casa Palace is not bad, but it's totally empty. On the other side of the building, there is another discotec: some people, a few chubby girls to entertain patrons, but after 5 minutes it closes.
I talk with a girl in miniskirt who was hanging in front. I offer a beer and when I hope to get something for few dollars, she takes a taxi and disappears.
If I am wise, tomorrow I go back to El Imperio or AND La 18.

* Years ago in Dallas I was informed by the staff and girls about the new Texas Law: minimum distance between girl and man 10 inches. I don't see the point to have a lap dance with this minimum distance strictly enforced, but the place was packed of hot guys anyway. I better understood the meaning of "sex prison".

PS: I confirm: I know that Spain and Portugal are in Western Europe.

[Dickhead]

Spain is fun. So is Portugal. Last time I looked, they were in Western Europe.

[Artisttyp]

It's possible to have fun here, as everywhere except in USA or Western Europe, but lots of care and time to explore are needed.

Ok. I really do appreciate your efforts. I'm sure many other members feel the same way.

[Black Page]

How are you enjoying the city itself and the food? Are costs reasonable?

Sorry to throw a barrage of questions at you but you are best reporter from GYE that we've had.

Thanks

Once more, the city is a normal city of this part of the world, I enjoy the food and the costs are low, but I would not come here just for the pleasure of staying, eating or partying here. Besides all, all bars close at 12pm, and the center is lonely and silent after 9pm except on weekends.
It's possible to have fun here, as everywhere except in USA or Western Europe, but lots of care and time to explore are needed.

[Artisttyp]

How are you enjoying the city itself and the food? Are costs reasonable?

Sorry to throw a barrage of questions at you but you are best reporter from GYE that we've had.

Thanks