Quito

[Member #4366]

Last week, I was in Quito. As it turned out, it was not one of my best mongering experiences. First of all, the weekend of 27 and 28 November was a disaster due to the census. On both days, all chongos in Quito were closed. This was unexpected. I assumed that they would only be closed on Sunday, which was the day of the census. That would not have been a big problem as most places close on Sundays anyway.

Unfortunately, things were not back to normal the following days. I was surprised to find almost all places in La Mariscal closed. And they were really closed: with fat chains and padlocks. Just to mention the places I went to and found closed: Guajira, Gata Caliente, Coffee Bar 415, Diosas, NightKats, El Swing, Swingcito. This really sucked because I picked my hotel to be conveniently close to these chongos. Perhaps all these places were closed in the week of my visit because of the census in the first weekend and the 'Festival de Quito' in the weekend that followed?

Further North, most places were open after the census weekend. 'Touch Me' seemed open but there were such shady types hanging out in front of it that I didn't care to enter. I did enter both VIP 3 Star and OE1, near Trole Carolina but there were only girls in there that I wouldn't have done if they had paid me.

In short, every day my search ended at the same place: Cafe Rojo. The vibe in this place is good but I found it overcrowded. On every day I went there, it was a real sausage fest. The guys:girls ratio was 3:1 on Monday to Wednesday and even 5:1 or worse on Thursday. I guess that the closedown of chongos in La Mariscal had something to do with this. Most girls available were pretty but I didn't see any real stunners. As there were so many potential customers, one ficha was only worth 20 minutes and not one minute more. In two cases, I had a girl running out of the room while I was still getting dressed. Not only this, but the service they gave was lackluster to put it mildly. No kissing, a hurried CBJ and very little passion. One girl even slapped on a second condom 'just to be safe' as she put it.

As I really hate to be hurried, I bought two fichas when I went upstairs with a hot brunette named Alejandra. That was a big mistake. These girls are apparently programmed for a 20 minutes show. When I was busy on her for about 15 minutes she already started to complain 'why no leche? ' When I reminded her that I had at least 40 minutes for 40 USD, she turned completely passive and the fun was over. While hurrying to get her clothes back on after barely 20 minutes, she had the nerve to ask for a 'propina'. I just laughed at her and she ran out of the door to find another sucker.

But not all my experiences in Cafe Rojo were bad. For instance, I had a wild threesome with Fernanda and Johanna. On forehand, I asked for a lesbian show to which they agreed. As it turned out, it was a fake show. They did some kissing with closed mouths and did not really go down on each other. But they did treat me very well: I got a combined blowjob with ball licking and got to fuck both of them in different positions.

Another place I visited is Mangos. I was surprised to find it open at 4 pm already. Only five minutes after I sat down and ordered a beer, a really gorgeous blonde appeared and gave a strip show. She had a fantastic body as well as a beautiful face. After the show, I asked the barman whether she was available. Unfortunately, she wasn't. The guy told me that she was a dancer and not into p4p. What a shame!

To summarize my Quito experience: I got laid as much as I liked (except in the census weekend) and didn't spend a lot but the quality was severly lacking. Others may have better experiences in Quito but I'm not going back there very soon. There are enough low-cost countries that offer (much) higher p4p quality.

[Woody53]

I was in Quito last weekend. Bad luck, due to the census and leys eco (dry weekend) all chongos closed.

Yesterday (Fr.) I tried Nightcats at 10 something, but it was closed and it looked as if it was closed forever. So by incidence I stumbled into Body’s. 3$ cover for one drink, followings drinks 3$ too. Lady drinks 3$. Some 20 girls present, most 4-6. Finally I found Mia a flaca with a nice face, very friendly. We had some drinks, chatted and had fun. I paid 35$ for half an hour (I know, too much) and she was really great.
Today I came back (although I knew she would not be in) Less girls, the only 2 acceptable ones looked so bored that I finally gave up.

I think I know why I prefer Thailand.

[Red Eye Fish]

It has been a while now since Cafe Rojo was closed down. Apparently, it is no in the foreseen future that it will open again.

I was there in Nov 1 thur 3. And it was open from noon to 10 pm. 15 girls on avg there daily. The funny thing was all other chongos, government services, and businesses except resturants and casino were closed for 3 day straight from Nov 1 to 3 on some federal days mandate. And the only chongo open is cafe rojo. Damn, it was just bad luck but I attended cafe rojo for 3 days straight even coming back to back from noon and than again at night b/c there was no other alternatives open. I was able to knock at least 6 chica in 3 days. So it was not so bad especially at cafe rojo line up. The girls were pretty decent on the line up range from a 6. 9 stars depends on your taste. $20 for 20 mins, $2 entrance no drinks, $3 beer, $2 water. Why water? Well, when you pounding away at such high alt you only want water instead of beer trust me or you be out of breath fast or have a heart attack. Always bring water with you when go upstair to room.

[Latin Bound]

Was in Quito a couple of weeks ago, and got over to Cafe Rojo to find it was closed. Taxis took me to 515, I think, which was not all that exciting. Met a girl from Rojo who I had previously made terrific eye contact with but didn't follow up. Until this trip. Tiny girl named Jennifer, beautiful smile, very cute. Tight, but a little mechanical when all was said and done.

Is Cafe Rojo open again? I imagine it is, but figured I'd ask. I will be in Guayaquil and later Quito this week.

It has been a while now since Cafe Rojo was closed down. Apparently, it is no in the foreseen future that it will open again.

[Abril]

Was in Quito a couple of weeks ago, and got over to Cafe Rojo to find it was closed. Taxis took me to 515, I think, which was not all that exciting. Met a girl from Rojo who I had previously made terrific eye contact with but didn't follow up. Until this trip. Tiny girl named Jennifer, beautiful smile, very cute. Tight, but a little mechanical when all was said and done.

Is Cafe Rojo open again? I imagine it is, but figured I'd ask. I will be in Guayaquil and later Quito this week.

[Saeta119]

Eventually succeeded to bring a girl in my room, from the same place as Karol. I got in at around 12 PM, two girls around and no customers.

Interviewed Camilla, colombian, small girl with perky tits. I offered to go to the hotel together. She quoted my 50, then 60 as she has to pay the place for the salida (exit).

Agreed. We walk together to my place, and we start. BBBJ (good but not exceptional) mish, doggy, and CIM. I tried again to see if the idea of fix customer could break any ice but nope, all she wants is a propina.

I did not and she was pissed. Walked out with 50 all for herself (equivalent to 3+ customers at the club) and 10 for the salida (assuming she has indeed to pay anything, not sure).

I think the word propina is the most used one here. And it seems there is an expectation that, whatever a girl do, she has a kind of right to be tipped.

Go figure... but I must say, I find all this annoying. Besides, these girls are really a piece of art. Business is slow, clubs are empty or full with drinking but not girl-interested customers, she get a clean, educated and gentle customer willing to pay them the equivalent of 3+ local (assuming they get any) and they still complain...

Anyway, today is Saturday. Tomorrow everything will be closed, and on Monday I leave. Ecuador was fun, but I still like Asia more. Despite the higher prices (in some places) girl's attitude is based on pleasing a man, not pissing him off.

Arthur out.

Why didn't you go to cafe rojo is beyond me.

Also, if the girl had to pay for the salida $10, she would've had to do it as she's walking out, if you paid for it in your room then it was a bullshit excuse to get the extra 10.

[Arthur66]

Eventually succeeded to bring a girl in my room, from the same place as Karol. I got in at around 12 PM, two girls around and no customers.

Interviewed Camilla, colombian, small girl with perky tits. I offered to go to the hotel together. She quoted my 50, then 60 as she has to pay the place for the salida (exit).

Agreed. We walk together to my place, and we start. BBBJ (good but not exceptional) mish, doggy, and CIM. I tried again to see if the idea of fix customer could break any ice but nope, all she wants is a propina.

I did not and she was pissed. Walked out with 50 all for herself (equivalent to 3+ customers at the club) and 10 for the salida (assuming she has indeed to pay anything, not sure).

I think the word propina is the most used one here. And it seems there is an expectation that, whatever a girl do, she has a kind of right to be tipped.

Go figure... but I must say, I find all this annoying. Besides, these girls are really a piece of art. Business is slow, clubs are empty or full with drinking but not girl-interested customers, she get a clean, educated and gentle customer willing to pay them the equivalent of 3+ local (assuming they get any) and they still complain...

Anyway, today is Saturday. Tomorrow everything will be closed, and on Monday I leave. Ecuador was fun, but I still like Asia more. Despite the higher prices (in some places) girl's attitude is based on pleasing a man, not pissing him off.

Arthur out.

[Arthur66]

arrived monday morning, with a powerful jetlag, sleep deprived and short-breathed by the altitude, i had to concede on the first night. i knew about the altitude, but the combination was a real killer.

on tuesday, however, i hit the jackpot. my hotel is a few meters away from guajira, and i went there at five pm. place is really nice, it looks a bit like a bar and a living room together. prices confirmed, entry 2, girl 20.

i have been there for a while, trying to get the vibe. after one hour and two beers, i categorised the girls more or less as 'old and chubby, young and chubby, young and good looking'. guess what, type three is the minority.

after a bit of more looking, i selected karol, a dark-skinned, big-rack, apparently shy lady from ecuador (somewhere). i like shy girls, always with the hope that they will do what i want instead of having to stress myself to convince them about who is in charge. the whole point, at least for me, in the mongering activity is that i pay for services, not headaches - i have enough of them already, and i certainly do not plan to pay to get additional ones.

in the room she was warm. those big tits are her pride and comfort, she likes to play with them and she likes her friends to cuddle them. i was in terrible shape, but i investigated special services anyhow... 20 for anal and bbbj... wow!

so for 40 us i had her in all holes, 20 minutes long, with full enjoyment. she likes doggy, and doggy she had. the lack of oxygen kept me from banging her for the whole time, i was panting after 10 and by 15 i was exhausted. drinking a couple of beers was not a good idea, i should have stick to coke.

the evening after, wednesday, i felt like exploring a bit and i went to the touch me place. a cab brought me there for 2 dollars and change, on the meter. the neighbourhood is not appealing at all. it is obviously a very popular area, very poor, and full of young guys going around in packs of three. it was early afternoon. i went in, paid the 1.50, and reached the long hall where the merchandise is exposed.

not good. many girls available, but a few girls were worth a second look, and very few were doable. i wanted to treat myself with the one hour, 25 dollars deal i read about, so i selected one of the best looking chicas and went to pay. surprise, la fecha cost now 10 dollars for 15 minutes, and the hour cost 40. no special room as well. what the hell, 40 dollars for one hour with a young girl is still a deal...

the room was very basic. the walls where a thin layer of wood, there were mirrors on the walls and ceiling, and the dustbin was used for all waste - including the girl' s [CodeWord134]. the bed was not obviously dripping liquids from the many other visitors, but it was far from clean. i saw something very similar in the lowest chongos in manila.

the sex was interesting, though. together with our own noise and banging, i could hear and feel the banging going on in the rooms adjacent to our, providing a multi-sensorial experience worth of memory. the bed was shaking in uncontrolled fashions, as while i was thrusting ahead, the walls on which the bed was adjacent were thrusting either sideways (wall on the right) or counter-wave (wall at the bed head), causing at times loud bangs when the action was totally asynchronous. i wondered a couple of times if the walls were going to fall down like a cards castle, leaving all banging couples under the debris. btw, while this place is particularly noisy, in all places i visited you could hear very much everything else taking place in the immediate surroundings. girls normally do not make the level of noise typical of asians, but you could hear the moaning and certainly the pain endured by the beds.

the girl however, while pleased to receive a net of 25 out of my 40, was tired and lacking any interest in returning customers. she was distant and uninterested in the whole story. i kept myself from finishing, preferring to have a good hour of gym instead.

her attitude did not surprise me. the public frequenting the place is made of people who can afford 10 bucks and no more, all of them local, some i would not like to meet on a dim-lighted road. that explains also the heavy security at the entrance, two guards in battle gear at street level and two inside. i was searched, but not requested any id.

disappointed, i hit a cab. the cabbie had a very small girl, possibly three, in the passenger seat. she was his daughter, and he told me he was bringing her with him because he could not let her home alone. this small creature was spending hours and hours in the passenger seat, without any kind of safety device, immersed in the noise and smell of quito's trafic. she could not play, and her father could not attend her... so, i had my heart-breaking experience - it happens at least once everytime i travel in these countries. i am afraid that, after having seen things like these too many times, i will get to the point there won't be anything else to break. another piece of heart gone... i left bits and pieces of it all around the world, from guatemala to india, from kenya to peru, and i keep loosing them. i guess it can be considered a professional disease of long-time travellers.

i needed to celebrate life and went back to guajira, where i found karol. however, i was interested in a blonded good looking and well-breasted girl, whose name i forgot. she is the only blond in the place, she has a cute face and smile, and perky tits - you can't miss her. in my not so broken spanish i made clear that i was looking for special services, and especially besos (kisses) and bbbj. she seemed to agree, but when we went upstairs she did not deliver. nice body, but no kissing and no touching allowed on her lower parts. good action (she could turn milk into butter by shaking that littel ass of hers), but standard service altogether. again, i preferred to keep my shots for better times.

went back downstairs and started to talk with karol. her presence aroused me. went in a private room, and got her digits, negotiating the next session in the same moment. within 15 minutes, i left with her heading for the room. and this time i was in a much better shape. she bbbj me long and deep, she went for 69, and i could give her the best i got - finally reaching a fully satisfactory climax. the girl has talent, and there is a good connection. gave her 30 in total (20 + 10 propina).

back downstairs, i was planning to have another beer and relax. the place is cosy enough, no loud music, civilised people around. it was around 8:30 when i realised i wanted her again. within 5 minutes, we were upstairs, me sitting on the couch and she giving me head, bbbj while looking at me down-up with those beautiful black eyes... paradise... wore a condom and took her from behind, with all the energy i was left with. we finished exactly at 2100, closing time. while dressing up, i asked her what she wants for one hour at my place, and she quoted 50, all inclusive. i made sure the all-inclusive was including all, bbbj, anal and besos, and she confirmed.

the day after, the plan was to get out of the office, call her from the hotel and have another wild party, but it did not work out as hoped. got dragged in an office dinner, which finished too late. back at the hotel, i examined the alternatives available after 9 pm, and selected nightkats, also at walking distance from my place. entrance is now 6 instead of 7, price per girl is 15. there was no night show going on, but the music was loud all the same. few good looking girls, more interested in chatting with each other than looking for customers. finally i found one, another brunette from ecuador called sara. she wanted 20, i told her 15 with propina if excellent services, and she agreed. the room was nice enough, but i had to pay a one dollar propina to the cleaning lady. the girl was also average. cbj was below par, no intimate touching, standard sex. she told me that she was doing no bbbj and anal was possible , but i was too big. the girl got no propina, and i went back for hunting.

later at night, better girls are arriving. i spotted a blonded tall, slightly chubby and not so young girl, following my experience that older girls are more flexible than young ones. interviewed her, and discovered that she was colombian from cali, she was offering extra services including those i was interested in. negotiated 20 propina for them and headed upstairs. the cleaning ladies were a bit surprised to see me back in 10 minutes, i propinated another cleaning lady with another dollar and started action. i got my bbbj, but far from the class of karol. when she thought i was ready, she dressed me with two condoms 'for extra safety'. bugger! took her in mish, and after a few minutes took her in the ass. changed to doggy, and did her again, and finally in mish when, despite the double layer of lattice between my pleasure and her assets, i finally came. of course, she 'forgot' to give me my 5 dollars back (i gave her 20), and was not pleased when she understood i did not forget about it. i got my 5 back, she got her 20 extra. left the place, not to return. the place is highly commercial. girls are used to ask for a drink, and don't stick around if they don’t get one.

on friday, i got myself organised. left the office soon, and by 3pm i was there. the plan was to negotiate a better deal, on the assumption that she was getting 50% of the fecha, so 10 dollars. but i was wrong, she gets 15, and negotiations were tough. i interviewed another couple of girls, and both were asking 60 for the hour, with mix answers regarding anal and bbbj. 50 dollars was, in comparison, a good deal, with full services included. so i agreed that she would have joined me in one hour at my hotel for one hour. no show... puzzled, i went to look for her, and she apologised saying that the boss was around and she did not get permission to leave. could be bs, i dont know. but anyway, we went upstaris again, and got the full services for a total of 40. while i was banging her in anal doggy with all my strenghts, i could not avoid thinking that it was probably one of the best fuck i could hope for. in asia, girls do not do anal in general (with the exception of thai, but seldomly). and anywhere in the world, the combination of anal+bbbj with a stunner like karol would have visibly dented my bank account.

altogether, my opinion on the whole lot is the following:

quito is worth visiting, definitely. for an european monger, 20 minutes for 20 dollars is an oustanding deal, despite the hit-and-miss constraints. quality is rare, though, excluding karol, services are standard, despite the fact that ecuadorian girls know how to fuck. they take a well endowed man without complaints, and they are specialists in doggy style - they spread their legs, lower their ass and take it all, full power. if you are looking for extras, though, you must pay, and you don't know what you get. besos (gfe) are very rare and unconvincing, anal is generally on offer but bbbj can be tricky - girls are very health conscious, and bare-back activities (including daty) are looked upon with some concern. finding a girl who actually enjoys it is really difficult - these are pro's, and well experienced ones as well.

however, with 100 dollars (approx. 70 euros at the time of writing), you can potentially have 8-9 girls for 15 to 20 minutes each time. potentially does not mean practically. between extra's, drinks, entrance and taxi, i guess you could get 6. anyway back home, for 100 dollars i get maybe two sessions with low-range rld girls. a hell of a difference.

i do not suggest the lower end of the scale, based on the touch-me experience. the place is dirty, the customers also, and the girls can be ill. if you want to go that way, i highly recommend using a condom for everything and refraining from bbbj - the chance to go back home with an unwelcome feeling down below is high, and quite frankly it is not worth it. the price differential is 10 dollars between good and very bad - just a no-brainer imho.

about the nightkats experience, 15 dollars will deliver a better experience allround than the cheapest options, but still not worth it, unless you are in for a championship in repeated mechanical sex sessions. good exercise, very healthy, and nobody [CodeWord133] in the dustbin, but not much more than gym. besides, i hate to be requested for propinas/drinks every five seconds by everybody, and i hate people trying their best to fool you. i found the place irritating.

also at the high end, it remains a hit or miss. karol was luck, but no standard. girls quality, at least as body, is directly proportional to price, with some exception.

my advice is the following, with in mind foreigners coming from us or europe:

1. book a hotel in the vicinity of the action. it will save you some (very cheap) taxi ride and especially time - traffic in quito is no joke. you will also be in a better position to invite the girl of your choice to come to your hotel. if you do your homework (one basic thing any monger must be good at), you will get yourself a nice spot, surrounded by options and safe.

2. do not drink too much in these places and in general. booze is cheap, and they push you to drink, but they will take profit of you, both the bar and the girls. besides, do not forget you are at 2800 meters above sea level - even after a few days, performances will be impaired v. what you are used to (unless you are a mountain person yourself), and alcohol does not help. i am myself a reasonable beer drinker, with 50-100 cc a day, but in quito one beer would have a noticeable impact. so, if you want to get wasted, mind your money and, in general, do not count too much on high performances. also remember that alcohol reduces your alertness, and to go around in quito by foot in confusional state is a big 'hit me' advertisement for any criminal you would come across.

3. stay out of troubles. the local newspaper yesterday reported that, from the beginning of the year, there have been almost 500 assaults on people and properties, in a single district - so not the whole city. laptops are particularly looked after and there are a lot of weapons around. mind your steps.

4. use only licensed taxis, and be prudent with flashing out cameras, watches and what else - quito is not a safe spot as a whole. taxis go by the meter at day, but i heard at night it goes by negotiation.

5. the tradition in ecuador is that guys approach girls, not the other way around like in many other parts of the world. so girls are mostly waiting, hoping to be approached. they get tired to sit down and bored to hell.

6. business is slow. in all places i have been to, i noticed that most of the action is represented by guys drinking beer and looking at girls, but there is relatively little bed action taking place v. the amount of men around. all girls complain, and i wonder how do they get a decent living. this means that in theory you can negotiate... but in practice, these are pro's, and the general mindset is that they could earn nothing comfortably sitting and chatting with each other instead of having to work for a few bucks. prices are already rock-bottom, and despite the moaning none of the girls i met was in real distress.

7. if you don’t speak any spanish, you are in troubles. none of the girls i interviewed could speak and/or understand english, not even at basic level. the situation could be different in the expensive nightclubs, but there you have to cough up 100/150 dollars for 30-45 minutes. so come prepared - either some basic spanish or a large wallet. apart from pro's, it is difficult to find anybody speaking any english anywhere, which is a real shame. a country that does not speak english is dead at international level.

8. surprisingly, a lot of colombians are coming to ecuador. they are attracted by the dollar, which apparently is considered way better than the local colombian peso. i did not quite get the reasoning behind this strong preference, but that is the trend. so you will find regularly colombian chicas in ecuadorian brothels.

9. if you find a girl you like, i advise you to stick with her. overall quality is low, despite the big-breasted standard. good attitude is rare. while exploring can be fun, it eventually means to pay a lot of money in entry tickets, observing a lot of girls who could not care less if you are alive or dead, and ending up having relatively expensive gym sessions, but not 'real' sex. with that i mean no passion, no warmth, and an experience that most of the times i forget in less than a day. if you like, as i do, gfe, good luck. kisses are possibly more rare than anything else. my attempts to convince girls to be my 'novia' for some time were not even understood - their view of things is that you pay, they condom you, suck you, get banged for a few minutes and... next please.

10. another aspect to consider is that girls are typically low educated and not very smart. they are used to volatile sex sessions with as many men as they can, and they do not have a clear picture regarding the advantages of having a few, loyal and frequent guests. so if you hope to convince a girl that she should discount you on the basis of the fact that you will return, think twice - it is not going to fly in most cases. and, before you get a girl to abandon the wham-bang-thank-you-mam approach, you might have to pay a lot of propinas, or be very lucky. a real shame, i feel. as said before, these girls can fuck, and it would take just a little bit more to make of them great lovers.

11. most girls are single mothers, according to my experiences approx 80% of them. girls here do not become hookers to buy trendy phones, and most of them just need to feed themselves and their children. if asked, they will proudly tell you how many kids they have. however, genetics help - i could not find one girl whose pussy was devastated by pregnancy. stretch marks are normal.

12. you don't really need a gf hotel - action takes place in chongos. my hotel was flexible in terms of visitors, short stay was allowed, and long stay would have required to know the name of the visitor and pay something like 6 dollars (i had a reservation for one person only). but again, why bother? you can fuck your way from 11 am to 4-6 am the day after, without the need to risk it by bringing a girl at your place.

13. about the above - stealing is the second sport after football in ecuador. robbers are everywhere, and if you decide to invite a low-priced 'deal' in your hotel room do not be surprised to find that your comb is gone - everything here has a value, and if it can be stolen, it will.

hope some of this can be of any use

kind regards,

arthur

[Member #4349]

This isn't a competitor so may get through.

http://www.fco.gov.uk/en/travel-and-...merica/ecuador

[Artisttyp]

I'm planning to return to Ecuador in mid-November and I was wondering if some members currently in Ecuador could update us on what it's like in Quito currently. Do you feel as (relatively) safe walking on the streets, esp. at night, in Quito now that there is a State of Emergency? What changes have you observed? Is it just a matter of avoiding walking through a middle of a political demostration? I postponed my trip last year due to electrical issues in Ecuador. I'm starting to wonder if returning is a good idea....

Good question. You are correct for researching this prior to arriving. Do a google search for the british govt. equivalent of our travel.state.gov. I forgot what is it called but they had an excellent update about the current situation. I will use that site from now on over travel.state.gov Do a google search for travel warnings ecuador then click on the british site.

I was chatting with a girl from guayaquil while it was going on and she mentioned there were robberies and looting. The next day or so she said everything was back to normal. Basically crooks will use any opportunity or lull in policing to commit crimes. The same thing happened in LA and New Orleans.

*All of these countries teeter on the brink of disaster. That is why we get the prices we do for PFP. Ecuador can be prone to serious natural disasters as well which would trump any political turmoil.

Quito is no joke when it comes to safety. Macho men might think otherwise
but I've experienced it myself. Quito is a rough city but it can be done.

[Howman]

[QUOTE=Saeta119]

You see, there's ALWAYS something going on...


Thanks for your valuable insight!

[Saeta119]

I'm planning to return to Ecuador in mid-November and I was wondering if some members currently in Ecuador could update us on what it's like in Quito currently. Do you feel as (relatively) safe walking on the streets, esp. at night, in Quito now that there is a State of Emergency? What changes have you observed? Is it just a matter of avoiding walking through a middle of a political demostration? I postponed my trip last year due to electrical issues in Ecuador. I'm starting to wonder if returning is a good idea....

That's funny!

If you're that worried all the time then south america may not be the best option for you.

You see, there's ALWAYS something going on, but you would never notice it walking down the street, international media makes it sound worse than it is.

In some areas in Quito life was normal during the whole mess with the president, so quit being a negative nancy and travel already.

[Howman]

I'm planning to return to Ecuador in mid-November and I was wondering if some members currently in Ecuador could update us on what it's like in Quito currently. Do you feel as (relatively) safe walking on the streets, esp. at night, in Quito now that there is a State of Emergency? What changes have you observed? Is it just a matter of avoiding walking through a middle of a political demostration? I postponed my trip last year due to electrical issues in Ecuador. I'm starting to wonder if returning is a good idea....

[Aussie Greg]

Just flown from Medellin to Quit "LAN" caught up with me old girlfriends from medellin working at the DOLLHOUSE and Extasis then drove to Coca (on Rio Napo 6 hours from Quito) and travelled down the river on a fast boat (Paisa girlfriend and I)from Coca to Nuevo Rocafuerte, Parque Yasuni, swam with the fresh water dolphins, then two more nights camping on the river until Mazan (15 minutes crossing by motorbike from the Rio Napo to the Rio Amazona, then 40 minutes in a fast boat to Iquitos, Peru.
Heading onto Leticia tomorow, then back to Bogota.

If any body would like more info, just ask.

I heading again to do this trip later in the year, anybody intertested, let me know.

Aussie Greg.

[Erik2003]

I'm now in Quito more than 6 weeks and I can tell that there are some changes.

Most important is that most chongos with prices up tioll now from 8 bucks now have a 10 bucks tarif: 122, Swinsito, Blues, 4033

Swinsito has a new interior but the rooms are still the same. The entree fee here is now 3 dlrs.

VIP International at San Gregrorio also has new interior and there are working now some 15 girls (most from the Ec. Coast but some Colombianas and de Rep Domicana too) There are more rooms now however still without any comfort.

Some 3 weeks ago there was a wapened robbery at Blues at a Saturday evening. Take care!