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[Saeta119]

Hi Friends of Cuenca,

I will be there in January: Is there Viagra or the like available in the pharmacies without a prescription? Many thanks.

Sure there are tons of places where you can get this, some pharmacies even announce deals if you buy more of them.

[Frankfurter]

Hi Friends of Cuenca,

I will be there in January: Is there Viagra or the like available in the pharmacies without a prescription? Many thanks.

[Saeta119]

I gather you didn't check out Piramide? They were handing out fliers, actually. Never seen that in Cuenca before.

Cuenca is a good time right now, though. Lots of Cuencanos leave, and in come lots of ladies from the coast looking to have a good time.

No I didn't have time to check Piramide this time, although it's always known to have the best chicas around, 99% of them are colombians, the owners are from guayaquil so not sure if they owned a club there before.

Drinks are way overpriced for me $5 a watery drink? No thanks, last time I went there I went too early and no action was to be had, but yeah tons of hot looking ladies all over the city.

[Abril]

I gather you didn't check out Piramide? They were handing out fliers, actually. Never seen that in Cuenca before.

Cuenca is a good time right now, though. Lots of Cuencanos leave, and in come lots of ladies from the coast looking to have a good time.

I'd have to say the best time to find quality chicas in Cuenca has to be in April and November.

These are the holidays celebrated in Cuenca, and you'll find a lot of pros and non pros around the city.

Went to the oasis chongo today and there were more girls than customers, very nice quality as well.

Plus a lot of girls just come to the city to party and have a good time, should've seen the city yesterday night, girls all over the place asking for where are the clubs to party.

Good times indeed.

[Saeta119]

I'd have to say the best time to find quality chicas in Cuenca has to be in April and November.

These are the holidays celebrated in Cuenca, and you'll find a lot of pros and non pros around the city.

Went to the oasis chongo today and there were more girls than customers, very nice quality as well.

Plus a lot of girls just come to the city to party and have a good time, should've seen the city yesterday night, girls all over the place asking for where are the clubs to party.

Good times indeed.

[Vector313]

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safety is a concern in manta because there have been more than 175 murders this year, there are strip clubs and probably other places in the other parts of town where you can find prostitutes for cheap, but do you really want to put your life in your hands and risk robbery in search of cheap pussy, that you may never find?
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bars - nashville south and el caribe, these are two bars next to each other that are owned by the same lady. she's a very sweet old lady, but she knows why people show up in her bars and she delivers. these are located on the malecon between calle 13 and calle 15. originally, i did not like these locations and most of you will not either. i like to sit, buy the girl a few drinks, talk for awhile and then when i'm ready to leave take the girl home and screw her. a majority of the girls there have no interest in anything but getting in finding a guy screwing him, taking the money and leaving. many times when i spoke to these girls, i kept my hand in my pocket on my wallet. also, very important, have change....lots of change. this is very difficult to obtain in manta, i even went to the banks and asked for ones and they didn't have any to give. pay for everything with the largest bill you have, one dollar bills and coins are like gold here and do not give them up unless you have to. you will need them for the cab ($1 in the central area and no more than $3 to the outskirts of the city). no cab driver has change...ever. most bars don't have change...ever.

topi tu pizza - this is about 100 yards from nashville south and el caribe. there are working girls here but they are more expensive and in my opinion more attractive than the girls in the other two bars. the pizza here is fantastic but expensive (by ecuadorian standards). the working girls dress nicely and sit at the bar drinking...unescorted. the place will allow them to stay, but does not encourage or want prostitutes, this is where you want to simply sit down order a drink and casually chat up the women. women in manta are very leery of strangers, so if they respond, they most likely are working. again, be subtle here or risk getting thrown out.

as far as the local scene as meeting women. it is near impossible. women simply don't talk to men on the street. in the bars and discotecas, women don't go unescorted and if they go unescorted (such as in groups) they are instantly hounded by the hundreds of men that have no women with them. women do not buy drinks for themselves here. they simply sit and wait until guys buy them drinks. they do not dance or spend any time alone with strangers (the exception is conga on thursday nights). in a nutshell, it is nearly impossible to meet a "normal" girl for sex without developing some sort of relationship. i should mention that if you are under 35 and have blonde hair and blue eyes, the women will fight each other to get you. the "european" look is treasured here and the women love the men that look different from them. also, many discotecas do not allow single men to enter. most men here drink in groups and many of the places are really small. they don't want to waste a table that could have 5-6 guys drinking on one guy by himself. so to solve this issue, they don't allow guys to enter alone.

conga discoteca - one of the 5 or 6 real "discotecas" in the city, the others are just glorified bars. thursday night is ladies night. all ladies get in for free and it's open bar. men are $13. many, many prostitutes on this night only, but you must know how to dance. dancing is very important to the women here and if you want to spend more than 5 minutes with one, knowing how to dance goes a long way. women generally outnumber the men here on thursday nights about 2 to 1 until 2am, then all the girls have to go home so their parents don't know what they are doing. this means you need to leave with the girls before 1am. this is typical of almost anyplace you find working girls, they generally live at home and their parents don't know what they are doing, they will be in trouble if they arrive home after 3am. so most have to earn their money by 1am or they call it a night.

you can take these girls back to your hotel or apartment but the safer bet for all involved is to go to a motel. a normal motel costs $8 for an hour and $3 each additional hour. the clerk provides condoms at the register. again, bring change because they won't have any. the girls that want to milk you dry will want you to take them to the "nice" motel which is $15, but you want the $8.00 motel. ask the cab driver out front, the ones outside of these bars know what you're doing because they pick the girls up from the bar and take them to people looking for prostitutes all over town. a trip to the motels is on the bad side of town and once you get to the neighborhood, you will understand why i mention that you shouldn't go there to look for cheaper pussy. cab fare is $1.50.

next up...

my first visit to a chongo.

ok, where should i begin? as i mentioned before, i spent a little over a year working at the manta airbase a couple years ago, so i can kind of break this down from a perspective of someone who is not just passing through.

first, safety did not used to be such a big concern in manta as long as you weren't a complete knucklehead and being too comfortable. as long as you walk the streets like you know what you are doing and where you are going you should be fine. giving off the impression of not being an easy-target will discourage most criminals from messing with you; unfortunately too many foreginers get pissy-drunk and this immediately gives and easy target. also know that nowadays there have been reports of women slipping pills or powder into drinks. here's a piece of advice, and i know it will sound crazy because you are on vacation. but don't drink or get drunk! i know i know a party pooper, but if you must drink, stick to bottled beer. they are usually only a buck or even 50 cents for pilsner and if you even have a half of inkling that someone tampered with it after opened, buy another one with your cheap ass!

secondly, as i mentioned in a previous post, the city of manta is jaded by having a foreign military base shit all over their city for the last 10 years. so like you say, meeting regular folks these days takes some effort, spanish, and patience. trying to visit manta for a week or even a few days and get some non-pro pussy will be a futile effort. the women who used to mess with foreign guys ended up with bastard children and the local men dog them out tremendously for it. thus, other local women stay away from foreigners because they know that if/when they strike out with that foreigner, they will be blacklisted in their community and have no chance for an ecudorian boyfriend or husband. please believe, ecudorian men refer to all women, pro or not, as *****s/putas/prepagas/casafortunas if they so much be seen having a drink with a foreigner. you can blame the us air force for that.

third, conga. conga traditionally is not a prostitue hangout. i think that just recently (like end of 2008) it began being a prepaga hangout. you see, conga at one point was the only really hip club that was on the "base safe list" for the military to hang out. so thursday night at conga was known all over manta as the place to be if you wanted to meet and date a sponser, ie a us military or contractor (who is living in manta for some extended period of time) who you could possibly form a relationship and get a ticket out of ecuador. there was plenty of opportunity for healthy relationships with local women blossoming from there. unfortunately, too many of them ended with pregnancies and abandonment. but ever since the base started closing and there was less military, the local non-pros recognized that the long term possibilites were over, so they stopped going to conga. now the only prospects were men looking for some short term fun, a few months at most. thus, this is the realm of the prostitute, not the girl who is husband shopping as before. all the regular girls went back to begging their way back into the graces of ecuadorian men after shunning them for so long.

fourth, you really don't have to pay at nashville south! the girl who you dated those few times probably would have fucked you for free if you had just tried. my friends and i never paid at nashville, although i rarely went there. that's not to say it's the norm, maybe i was just lucky and the girls knew us and like us. and fyi, topi pizza sucks. there is at least 3 better spots for pizza in manta.

i hope this brings some light for folks visiting manta.

happy journeys.

[Vector313]

I have found the same thing in other countries...especially Peru, which was why Ecuador was such a big surprise. People are not friendly initially (at least in Manta). At times, I would say a friendly "hola" or buenos dias" on the street and I was surprised their heads didn't fall off as quickly as they turned their heads away from me. It's not because I'm ugly or anything. I was probably better dressed than most people in the city and I still look young...I mean I have all of my hair and I'm not fat. At times, I had my children with me (yes, I brought my two teenage children with me on the trip...we all took Spanish classes), and I got the same reaction.

Once people spoke to me, they were fine but getting that initial conversation from a female was damn near impossible. All of us at the school had the same problem, we initially found it hard to get people to speak to us. The majority of us were surprised because we had traveled extensively in Latin American and never encountered that problem before. Montanita was exactly the opposite, I will write about it when I have time...

Manta is a exception man. Don't be discouraged. I can speak from first hand, since I used to work at the Manta air base. Most foreigners, especially folks from estados unidos, will have a VERY TOUGH time dealing with people in Manta these days. They just closed the air force base I think last month, but from first hand experience I can tell you that the military dudes as well as contractors have used and abused the local manta population for years and years. There is a very distinct disdain for US citizens that exists in Manta. Too many military knuckleheads lying and fuckin the local women and leaving them with babies. Do your research; you will find there are TONS of bastard US military kids running around Manta, with the father's being total jerks and cutting off communiction with the mothers. If you are going to monger in Ecuador, stick to Quito. Trust me on this.

[Travel And Mate]

Regarding Michael1967's observation:

People in Ecuador are very bashful, not rude. Especially with foreigners. In places where foreigners are more common, such as Montanita, it may well be different.

So if a tall, foreign looking guy says "hi" to a girl on the street, the most common reaction will be to ignore him. They're just too timid to answer.

[Jaburos]

AlterdBeastAlterdBeast:

This "pict 6-Manta_Girl in El Puente2. JPG" only is the name of picture.

Took this picture in Manta, in the chongo "El Puente". The girl is the same.

[Artisttyp]

I have found the same thing in other countries...especially Peru, which was why Ecuador was such a big surprise. People are not friendly initially (at least in Manta). At times, I would say a friendly "hola" or buenos dias" on the street and I was surprised their heads didn't fall off as quickly as they turned their heads away from me. It's not because I'm ugly or anything. I was probably better dressed than most people in the city and I still look young...I mean I have all of my hair and I'm not fat. At times, I had my children with me (yes, I brought my two teenage children with me on the trip...we all took Spanish classes), and I got the same reaction.

Once people spoke to me, they were fine but getting that initial conversation from a female was damn near impossible. All of us at the school had the same problem, we initially found it hard to get people to speak to us. The majority of us were surprised because we had travelled extensively in Latin American and never encountered that problem before. Montanita was exactly the opposite, I will write about it when I have time...

Alot of ecuadorians have family in america and they use the dollar. We are basically useless mongers to them.

[Michael1967]

I have found the same thing in other countries...especially Peru, which was why Ecuador was such a big surprise. People are not friendly initially (at least in Manta). At times, I would say a friendly "hola" or buenos dias" on the street and I was surprised their heads didn't fall off as quickly as they turned their heads away from me. It's not because I'm ugly or anything. I was probably better dressed than most people in the city and I still look young...I mean I have all of my hair and I'm not fat. At times, I had my children with me (yes, I brought my two teenage children with me on the trip...we all took Spanish classes), and I got the same reaction.

Once people spoke to me, they were fine but getting that initial conversation from a female was damn near impossible. All of us at the school had the same problem, we initially found it hard to get people to speak to us. The majority of us were surprised because we had travelled extensively in Latin American and never encountered that problem before. Montanita was exactly the opposite, I will write about it when I have time...

Interesting observations Mr. 1967. What I have found (from Colombia and Peru, not Ecuador, but probably similar), is that, for me anyway, I do not have to do a lot of chasing, simply say hi, how are you? My Spanish has gotten better over the years, and they will respond, and talk to you, they all want to learn some English. Having said that, while they enjoy conversation, that absolutely does not mean I am going to get laid now, or at any time in the future. They seem to especially like the fact that I am trying to converse with them, without acting like a hornydog within the first five minutes.

[Furysys]

Interesting observations Mr. 1967. What I have found (from Colombia and Peru, not Ecuador, but probably similar), is that, for me anyway, I do not have to do a lot of chasing, simply say hi, how are you? My Spanish has gotten better over the years, and they will respond, and talk to you, they all want to learn some English. Having said that, while they enjoy conversation, that absolutely does not mean I am going to get laid now, or at any time in the future. They seem to especially like the fact that I am trying to converse with them, without acting like a hornydog within the first five minutes.

The one I have been with for a while has kind of worked out like that. We bang each other silly when I see her now (in Medellin), but it started from a hola, como estas?, and went to coffee, and went from there.

Absolutely true about the other stuff, by being nice initially, one will get integrated into a circle of friends. Showing an interest in learning Spanish helps a lot more, and you have to be willing to pay for them. It is certainly worth it in the end.

I like your use of the word 'liberal'. Certainly in the original context, liberal meant minimal government supervision, and freedom to choose, now it has transmorgrified into a state of nature whereby God help you if you look the wrong way at a woman. Where I live is exactly the same, if I say hi, I usually get a dirty look and they walk away. It is difficult to adjust to the life in Latin America, but I have somewhat been able to do it, and now, I just ignore all the 'hoes around here, they are absolutely not worth it.

Your reports are excellent, keep them coming. Will have to make it to Ecuador eventually

[Michael1967]

so during my last few days in manta, my teacher explained to me how i can successfully meet women in manta. before i tell you of his plan, i will briefly go over how latin american women are different from american women (if you travel to latin american often, you probably know this).

first, latin american women are used to aggressive men pursuing them; if you want a woman you simply cannot be passive about it. i’m probably from one of the most liberal cities in the us and the quickest way to turn off a woman here is to chase after her. here, looking at an attractive women could almost get you arrested (“he was [CodeWord125] me with his eyes”). i have spent many years perfecting the “show interest, but not act interested” look and asking women on a date but not making it seem like a date. so for me, latin america is refreshing because i can actually act like a guy. unfortunately, 30+ years of dating women in my city makes it difficult for me to change from letting the woman think they are in control to aggressively taking charge. anyway, my point is, if you find a woman you like in latin america and don’t go after her, she will believe that you are not interested in her. if you see someone you like or are attracted to, you must walk right up to them and talk to them. a flirtatious smile will get you absolutely nowhere. admiring a woman from afar with the hope that she will notice you will only make her think you’re creepy. you have to put yourself out there, show interest, tell her that she’s attractive, tell her that you want to meet her later, get her for her phone number (if you give her your phone number, she will not call you…unless she’s a prostitute) and call her (no texting). don’t wait 3 days or whatever the rule is now, you call her that evening and immediately ask her out…if you haven’t done so already.

second, you pay for everything. there is no going dutch. you pay for her cab ride home (though real etiquette is that you ride home with her in the cab and then go back to your place). she will most likely bring a friend on the date; you pay for the friend also. if she likes you or feels that you’re safe, she will tell her friend to leave. so you must be nice to friend. in general, be cheap with the prostitutes but not with the normal girls. prostitutes will milk every cent they can from you; normal girls will be somewhat frugal with your money.

lastly, if you do get a normal girl in bed, don’t expect her to spend the night. she most likely lives with her parents and cannot be out all night. if she’s spending the night, you probably have a prostitute.

now, moving on to what i was told about meeting normal girls in manta.

the people in manta are social; very few people do activities alone. you have almost no chance of meeting a woman while you are by yourself. if you don’t have ecuadorian friends and can’t make any, you need to find other people to hang around with. you will not meet anyone if you sit or travel alone.

if you want to meet ecuadorian men, go to a busy bar and watch a soccer game…don’t watch, but participate. pick a side, pay attention and act like you give a damn who wins (just don’t pick the wrong side). buy drinks for the guys near you (c’mon, they are a buck) and you will suddenly have friends, learn their names and speak to them. from there, work on finding out where they will hang out or what they are doing on weekends and move on from there. more importantly, other people in the crowded bar will see you hanging out with the locals and will speak to you if they see you again. i’m a very good salsa dancer and i danced with an ecuadorian woman at a discoteca one night, we made quite a scene. for my final week, i was stopped on the street constantly by people who saw me there and wanted me to dance for them or wanted to know if i was colombian or cuban. once that happened, the more local people i spoke to, the “safer” i became. if i had only known that during the first few weeks, it would have been a good trip for me.

another way to meet local women is to go to the university. there are bars right in front of the main entrance and many people are there that are dying to speak english, but have no one to speak english to. at these locations, you need to play down your spanish and speak english (loudly) and people will speak to you and sit with you. i tried this the day before i left and it worked…unfortunately, people wanted to hang out with me and take me places over the weekend but i was leaving.

also, at the university, right inside the main doors, there is a tourist office. it is manned by students that are learning english in school. i was told that you can offer to pay a student to guide you around town and show you all of the important spots (including good bars and discotecas). this may not be what you are looking for, but to meet local women you must make friends and this would be a start.

remember the key to meeting local women that are not prostitutes is to have local friends; they will introduce you to women once they know you.

finally, i did not try this but was told to give it a shot. once or twice a month, the government gives out money to single, unemployed mothers. it’s only $30 but it is an incredible sight to see. the first day, i saw it, i needed change. i went to the bank and there was a line stretching down the block and around the corner. this line contained nothing but women that were there to get their money. in addition, there was a second line for men that actually had real bank business (they got priority). i was told to walk down the line and talk to any women that i thought was attractive. they would see that i was american and would be interested. it seemed a little to scummy for me, so i didn’t do it, but a british guy i met tried it and he said he successfully met several local women.

one more report coming up…montanita

[Airness71]

He's right, those are Herpes warts.

[AlterdBeast]

If you fucked that you likely caught her warts (HPV)

Sorry don't know how to translate that. See pict 6-Manta_Girl in El Puente2. JPG

Last week I returned from Ecuador.

I was in Quito where I went to see Noches de Paris. Noches de Paris is cheap, prices are $ 7 but the rooms are very small. This room does not invite a pleasant stay. You must be very accustomed to being comfortable in these rooms.

La semana pasada volví de Ecuador.
Estuve por Quito donde fui a ver Noches de Paris. Noches de Paris es barato, los precios son de 7 dolares pero los cuartos son muy pequeños. Estos cuarto no invitan a una estancia agradable. Tienes que estar muy acostumbrado para estar agusto en estos cuartos.

In Manta ask a taxi driver and told me that there were two. One the "Imperio" and another "El Puente". As I said the "Imperio" is worse than "El Puente". They are located on the road leading to the airport. You can go by bus Transdelfines No 2. You have to go down after the Centro del Atun. In "El Puente" you have to negotiate everything, because it only removed her panties. The worst times are between 13h and 18h, the women are eating.

En Manta pregunte a un taxista y me comento que había dos. Uno el "El imperio" y otro "El Puente". Según me dijo el "El Imperio" es peor que el "El Puente". Están situados en la carretera que lleva al aeropuerto. Puedes ir en el autobús de Transdelfines nº2. Aquí hay que negociar todo, ya que sino solo se quitan las bragas. Las peores horas son las 13h y las 18h, la mujeres se van a comer.