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[Saeta119]

Wow, you really got ripped off by those girls, it's always $6 no matter what, one easy way to know is by asking the guard at the entrance or the bartenders, anyone will tell you so, prices do NOT increase because it's the weekend, that's silly.

Simply put, they saw a walking ATM on you, next time don't ask for the price, just pay the correct amount. It really aggravates me that those women pulled that stunt.

Also, be careful who you talk to inside those places, most of the people there are thieves or hoodlums, not a good idea to make friends there in my opinion, the security guard has a metal detector for a reason, lots of criminals go there, be careful.

[Keen Eye Joe]

i just finished a 6 day stay in cuenca. i can see why the folks at international living magazine have it ranked one of the top retirement destinations in the world. great weather, good infrastructure, a safe feel, and just a generally nice place to be. even the water from the tap is potable, which i thought was amazing.

but the purpose of this forum is not for promotion but rather for reporting. so i'll give you my impressions of mongering in cuenca.

as i had dutifully read the forum prior to traveling to cuenca, i was prepared that it was going to be pretty much a wasteland for mongering. but thankfully there were postings about some low budget chongos away from the downtown area, and i ventured there during the day for relief.

gentlemen, the place you want to go is called the club oasis, located in the el tanques area in the highlands above the avenue of the americas. i went there 3 times, on tuesday, thursday, and saturday afternoons.

to get there, i would flag a taxi and say to the driver, 'el tanques, oasis chongo, por favor'. after saying those words, each driver would give me a big smile and wave me into the cab. i would then ask, 'cuanto cuesta? ', and found the taxi fare was anywhere between $1. 50 and $2. 50 from calle larga.

the first time i went, i was really nervous from having no idea what to expect what i got there. but you know, i had one hell of a time each time i was there.

here is the routine: after the cab drops you off out front, walk into the covered parking area and head toward the doorman, who is dressed in an orange polo shirt. he has a metal detector wand and checks each patron for suspicious metal objects. i'm guessing not a lot of gringos go there, because he had a surprised look on his face as i walked up.

but what was cool on my second and third trips was that he recognized me, and would shake my hand as i walked up to him. by the third day, oasis was starting to feel like cheers, haha.

he motioned me through the door, and i walked in. the oasis is divided into two levels. the upper level was deserted that day (tuesday) so i headed down the stairs to the lower level. no cover charge was requested on tuesday or thursday afternoons, but entry to the lower level on saturday afternoon required a $1 payment. after paying the entry fee, the bouncer motioned for me to put my index finger onto a red scanner device, which i am guessing records my fingerprint and is used in lieu of a traditional ink stamp for re-entry into the lower level.

each level is actually a large open area, with chairs rep001tered about. each day there were around 20 ladies present. as mentioned in other postings, the quality of the gals isn't real high. lots of 3-4-5 rated ladies, with an isolated 6-7. for those of you who have been to tijuana, the average lady there resembles the average tijuana street gal in the zona roja.

lots of really short and tight mini dresses with clunky 6 inch acrylic heels. i have heard that hispanic men like their women on the larger side, and this place did not disappoint. not a whole lot of thin gals in there. lots of what i like to call 'sexy chubby' women. gals who could stand to lose 40 pounds, but are dressed in such a way that gave them the look that drives joe's libido off the edge.

the really hot looking gals were quite busy. once one would re-enter the room after a session, it didn't take long for someone to flag her down and get busy.

someone mentioned that the set up there resembles a high school dance, and they are absolutely right. lots of guys standing around, holding beers, gawking at the gals and chatting with their friends. the ladies never came up to the guys, but would rather just stand or talk with their girl friends, waiting for a customer to venture their way.

being a gringo, i wasn't sure what interest i would get from the ladies. when i would stare their way, about 50 percent of them would not indicate any interest, while the other 50 percent would flash a smile and a 'come hither' look. i never ordered a beer, but rather just had bottled water. it cost a mere 50 cents to buy a water and stand and decide which lady was going to be the receptical for my load d'jour.

now for the nitty and the gritty: on tuesday i selected a thick gal from columbia, aged 28. dyed blonde hair, with a pretty face. she was the only blonde gal i saw there the whole time. short mini dress and cute sandal heels. forgot her name, but it doesn't matter. regular patrons would probably recognize her because she was there each day i went.

she quoted me $10, which i found acceptable. i had read the going rate was $6, but i wasn't in the mood for haggling. as i walked with her to the room, i went through a doorway which led from the main room into a hallway of bedrooms. as i was walking to the doorway, i made eye contact with a couple of the guys hanging out by the doorway, and they were smiling me at me and one gave me a high five as i went by.

the experience was exactly what i had expected. no gfe, but the bj was really good and she really seemed to enjoy the 'boom boom'. she had a big 'garage' down below, but it still felt good. no kissing, but i had no complaints.

as i walked back into the floor area, one of the guys who cheered me on earlier said to me, 'gringo, blah blah blah', which i inferred as him saying 'gringo, how was it? '. i smiled widely and said 'mucho gusto, amigo', and a bunch of the guys started laughing and one patted me on the back. way cool!

$10 for the deed, $1 propina, $5 round trip cab fare, and 50 cents for a water. grand total = $16. 50.

on thursday the place had many more customers than on tuesday, and many of the ladies had migrated to the upper level. there i found an ecuadorian lady giving me the eye. i forget her name, but she was aged 30 from manta. around 5' 6' tall, reasonably pretty face but needed to take off a couple dozen pounds. quoted me $7.

when in the room, she put her arms around me and gave me a big hug. i took the initiative and started nuzzling and kissing her neck, which she seemed to like. i then moved my mouth to hers and surprisingly she kissed me back. after a few seconds i slipped her the tongue, and suddenly we were slurping away like two kids in a dark corner at a junior high school dance.

after shedding our clothes, we laid on the bed and started kissing some more, then she asked if i wanted to spend one hour with her for 'cuarenta', which is $40. for the life of me, i can't figure out why she thought i would pay $40 for an hour when i was going to get at least 15 to 20 minutes of her time for $7.

similar story to that with the columbian gal. covered bj, spirited boom-boom. she even brought out a plastic pan and washed my little friend when it was all over. i gave her a $1 propina and left.

grand total for everything including taxi = $13. 50.

gentlemen, if you go on a saturday afternoon, be prepared for it to be absolutely packed with guys. at 3 pm both levels were packed with what i estimated to be around 100 guys total, with about 15 chicas present. the hotties pretty much ignored me, so i was only getting visual interest from the much less desirable ones. so i decided to stick with the manta lady for a repeat visit.

once in the room, she informed me the price was now $10, which i attribute to there being so many more guys there that day. had another great time with her. grand total = $16. 50.

3 days. 3 fichas, total price $46. 50. cheap and fun mongering makes cuenca that much more of a desirable retirement locale.

[Lima Busy]

I am new to international travel, green at P4P and don't have a good pick-up game (or dance step) at all. Plus, my spanish is very limited right now. But the idea of finding a non-pro appeals, especially if there is nothing else here. I worked on a bartender here a few nights, but after reading some posts here I guess I wasn't aggressive or forthright enough?

I tried to get her to go out to lunch and then I thought I'd make a P4P offer from there if things didn't progress. She made excuses about not having the time (work everyday) and liking to eat her own cooking. At the same time though, she was clearly giving me a show behind the bar and not dismissing me at all.

Should I have just gone straight to a P4P offer? What type of offer (per pop, hour, etc.) and how much? Anyone with experience along these lines share any words of wisdom?

She told you she did not want anything with you (in a nice way) , the "show" is for a tip!

[TheQE]

Thanks for the info, both of you. Platino or Paramide certainly sound more preferable, in terms of quality and comfort. I do need to practice my conversation skills big time. I assume it will be very noisy though (loud music) in Platino or Paramide, which won't help.

I am studying / staying at Gran Colombia & Cordero, which I think is a pretty short walk to Platino. Not sure where Paramide is, but understand from previous posts that they are pretty much the same. I suppose I will give it a go and hope I can find a girl willing to take money from a gringo that can't converse too much.

The Oasis sounds interesting and I would like to try one of those places (maybe wait until next week when I'm in Puerto Lopez?). I don't like to be too rushed though and taking a cab out there for 1 quickie doesn't sound real great. What is the neighborhood like there in the daytime (late morning). Is it possible to have a quickie, go have a cup of coffee or lunch somewhere close by and go back for another round before taking a cab back?

Do the Oasis type girls keep themselves clean? (clean clothes, bathed, etc.) I don't mind a girl who's plainer looking, but if she's dirty, fat, and ugly; I'd rather go without.

Also, has anyone tried the escort service listed in the Cuenca phone book? Or any other in town for that matter? Would they even come to a $20 / night hostal / hotel? I could ask the kid who works the front desk at night to call for me maybe. Or perhaps, he'd have a suggestion of his own.

[Abril]

Where are you taking Spanish lessons? Not sure it's worth going anywhere other than Platino or Piramide these days.

[Saeta119]

Thanks Saeta. I left Banos and arrived in Cuenca last night for the week. I am staying nearby Platino and will check it out in the next few nights. Is the Oasis chongo open in the mornings? I have spanish lessons in the afternoons (2-6) and I understand it's not a good idea to go at night.

How difficult is the language issue to navigate at both places? I've been taking spanish lessons for a month and can say a fair amount but my comprehension is still poor. Thanks in advance for any words of advice from anyone.

Well, first of all it depends on what you're looking for, at Oasis you arrive, motion to a girl for a room. 15 min and then you leave, it's not a place to hang out at all! While in Platino you can hang out and relax, dance with the girls, talk.

Now of course prices are going to be dif too, Oasis will be $6, don't even ask for the price, just give the girl $6 as you enter the room, bring the exact change (yes it's a very mechanical straight forward issue). While Platino, entrance is $5, room with a girl for 30 min is $50.

What else, quality is also dif, big time. You might find some gems in oasis, but it's almost guaranteed in platino, and while in oasis a girl may have had 10 guys or more all day, in platino girls usually have 1 all night, or two at most.

I'd have to say with your language barrier, girls here I've never met one that spoke conversational english, so my suggestion is you try oasis, they open at 10am every day, go there early pick a girl, pay her and be done, not much spanish required for that.

Word of advice, DO NOT ever attempt to go find street walkers by the terminal terrestre area. 80% of them are transexuals and the area is a very high risk dangerous one, I wouldn't dare walking around that area even in the morning.

[TheQE]

Thanks Saeta. I left Banos and arrived in Cuenca last night for the week. I am staying nearby Platino and will check it out in the next few nights. Is the Oasis chongo open in the mornings? I have spanish lessons in the afternoons (2-6) and I understand it's not a good idea to go at night.

How difficult is the language issue to navigate at both places? I've been taking spanish lessons for a month and can say a fair amount but my comprehension is still poor. Thanks in advance for any words of advice from anyone.

[Saeta119]

Banos is not good at all for P4P, just enjoy the place and the activities, but the houses are awful.

[TheQE]

Does anyone have any recent info on Banos? I am here for 2 or more weeks to study spanish before moving on south. Wish I had found this forum before or while I was in Quito, I wouldn't be so anxious to find something here.

Do any of the plethora of spa / massage places here offer anything extra?

I am new to international travel, green at P4P and don't have a good pick-up game (or dance step) at all. Plus, my spanish is very limited right now. But the idea of finding a non-pro appeals, especially if there is nothing else here. I worked on a bartender here a few nights, but after reading some posts here I guess I wasn't aggressive or forthright enough?

I tried to get her to go out to lunch and then I thought I'd make a P4P offer from there if things didn't progress. She made excuses about not having the time (work everyday) and liking to eat her own cooking. At the same time though, she was clearly giving me a show behind the bar and not dismissing me at all.

Should I have just gone straight to a P4P offer? What type of offer (per pop, hour, etc.) and how much? Anyone with experience along these lines share any words of wisdom?

[TheQE]

I wish I had found this forum when I was in Quito, but I am now in Banos. I am new to international travel and fairly green in the P4P scene. Does anyone have any words of wisdom on the scene here? Do any of these massage places that line the streets here offer anything more?

I am here in Banos for another few weeks taking spanish lessons before working my way south. I was working on a bartendress at a bar for a few nights this past week. I've never been a great pick up artist in English, much less a language I am just learning, but I'd like to explore P4P with non-pros, especially if there are no other options here.

I was intent on getting her to go out to lunch or something and then making an offer if she was reluctant to go forward. But she was non-committal complaining about having to work every night, preferring her own cooking, etc. At the time though she was clearly shaking it for me behind the bar and not dismissing me at all. Should I have just made her a P4P offer right there? What type of offer should I have made (by the hour, night) and how much?

Any advice on how to pursue this option here in Banos or with South American women in general? If it matters, I am in my early 40's (but look quite a bit younger) , pretty decent looking, but carrying a few extra pounds. Unfortunately, I can't dance a lick.

[Member #4366]

Haha, so Andrea is at platino now? She used to work in La Piramide all the time, she's a lot of fun to be with, but then again, yes the first time I was with her, it was exactly as described, did you get her phone number? She's 100 times better when you go to her place, last time I was with her it was all about the BBBJ and multiple pos.

No, I didn't ask for her phone number as I was a bit disappointed about her service. However, reading your comment, I see that I should have. Anyway, I'm no longer in Cuenca, so it will have to be for another time. It is really a very nice place, so I may go there again.

[Saeta119]

I'm in Cuenca since last Friday. As others mentioned earlier, there is not much going on here. Although beautiful, it is a very quiet town, which virtually comes to a standstill on Sundays. On Thursday, Friday and Saturday nights lots of bars and discos are open with young and pretty girls but they are not p4p. No good for me as I'm past the age that I could pick up young and good looking non-pros. However, if any of you guys would like to try your luck, Calle Larga is the best place for non-pro action. My advice would be to take a hotel in that street as well as it is quite safe.

As I had been warned by the front desk guy of my hotel that Los Tanques is not safe at night, I decided to give Platino a try. I don't have the exact address but it is on Calle Gran Colombia between Ordonez and Vega. When you come from Ordonez, it is on the left side of the road. There is a window with blue light and the word 'Platino' on it. They open from 9 pm until about 5 am, Tue-Sat. However, the girls only arrive at about 10:00 pm (at least they did when I visited, last Saturday). It is a very small place but it looks new. When I visited, there were only five girls, four of them Colombianas and about six customers. One of the girls told me that Saturday is always very quiet and that there are more girls (but also more guys) on Thursdays and Fridays. The girls available last Saturday were 6-7 and one 8 (in my book). The best looking one, a blonde from Medellin had a bad cold and was coughing heavily all the time so I decided to let her go.

Instead, I hooked up with another blond Colombiana (this one from Armenia if I remember well) , named Andrea. She was very friendly and not at all in a hurry to go to a room. I chatted with her for about an hour and could feel her up everywhere. She was just fun to be with. The sex was ok but not really worth the 50USD for 30 minutes. She refused BBBJ and the kissing was only shallow. She was very active though and took initiative for different positions. All together, not an experience I would soon repeat – you may get the same in other places in Ecuador for less money.

Haha, so Andrea is at platino now? She used to work in La Piramide all the time, she's a lot of fun to be with, but then again, yes the first time I was with her, it was exactly as described, did you get her phone number? She's 100 times better when you go to her place, last time I was with her it was all about the BBBJ and multiple pos.

[Woody53]

Just a short update on what Saeta119 wrote recently.

I was in the Oasis chongo last week. Couldn't try the other described clubs like Piramide because I needed to be back in town early. The choice of decent girls is very limited. Most 4-6. So it takes some time to spot a nice one. The place is filled with Cuenca guys, but they seem just to look and drink beer. First I met Diana. A nice flaca, mid 20, nice talking before and after, good service. No real GFE, but close. She got 10$ + 5$ tip. I returned 2 days later and she told me that she missed me yesterday.)

Another good one is Veronica. Early 20, slim too, nice natural tits service comparable to Diana. Same damage.

I followed the advice, took a taxi (3$ each way from city centre) and didn't go into the other chongos in Los Tanques. They really look a bit odd.

[Member #4366]

I’m in Cuenca since last Friday. As others mentioned earlier, there is not much going on here. Although beautiful, it is a very quiet town, which virtually comes to a standstill on Sundays. On Thursday, Friday and Saturday nights lots of bars and discos are open with young and pretty girls but they are not p4p. No good for me as I’m past the age that I could pick up young and good looking non-pros. However, if any of you guys would like to try your luck, Calle Larga is the best place for non-pro action. My advice would be to take a hotel in that street as well as it is quite safe.

As I had been warned by the front desk guy of my hotel that Los Tanques is not safe at night, I decided to give Platino a try. I don’t have the exact address but it is on Calle Gran Colombia between Ordonez and Vega. When you come from Ordonez, it is on the left side of the road. There is a window with blue light and the word ‘Platino’ on it. They open from 9 pm until about 5 am, Tue-Sat. However, the girls only arrive at about 10:00 pm (at least they did when I visited, last Saturday). It is a very small place but it looks new. When I visited, there were only five girls, four of them Colombianas and about six customers. One of the girls told me that Saturday is always very quiet and that there are more girls (but also more guys) on Thursdays and Fridays. The girls available last Saturday were 6-7 and one 8 (in my book). The best looking one, a blonde from Medellin had a bad cold and was coughing heavily all the time so I decided to let her go.

Instead, I hooked up with another blond Colombiana (this one from Armenia if I remember well), named Andrea. She was very friendly and not at all in a hurry to go to a room. I chatted with her for about an hour and could feel her up everywhere. She was just fun to be with. The sex was ok but not really worth the 50USD for 30 minutes. She refused BBBJ and the kissing was only shallow. She was very active though and took initiative for different positions. All together, not an experience I would soon repeat – you may get the same in other places in Ecuador for less money.

[Abril]

The owner is the same one as piramide. They just split off the girls from piramide, half of them work at platino.

Same prices as well. haven't seen new girls arrive lately but you never know.

Cool, thanks.