Asuncion

[Lexton]

Hi Life,

I sympathize with the problem but just can't advise you much. To finish with this, you have to think about what you can do.

I have never been to Palmas del Sol but mongers have been happy with the location nearer the apts. The other areas are in the old Microcenter / port area, where there is some ability to wander at night and maybe find something outside the apts. The Benjamin Constant apt is near the disco Africa which I think is still open. But if you don't speak spanish you are not likely to hit something in a disco. It won't be that easy on the street. Take out from the apts is reportedly very expensive, and I don't doubt this.

So I kind of have to go back to what I said in the first place. It isn't easy to decide. Best is to try to read the posts and relate what was said to what you think you CAN do. And give it your best shot. Good luck.

[LifeIsABeach]

I had talked about two apartments that I saw on a Paraguay website. Trying to reserve one has been a pain in the neck. First I asked what pickup from airport would be as the flight from Lima comes in early in the morning, I was quoted USD $150.00. Next after many e-mails and not getting an answer, I was told the deposit would be $100.00 and a security deposit of $150.00 all in CASH and they do not take credit cards. Of course, I just cannot run over from USA to their office and pay the money in CASH. I wonder how many locals want to rent in Centro and have that much money available to hand over. It appears that I would be staying at a hotel. I had read posts from a monger who had stayed at Hotel Palmas del Sol, Espaa 202 casi Tacuar. Zona centro. Asuncion. Paraguay and found the hotel close to mongering departmentos. I might stay there. There is another one, Hotel San Diego and that one is right on Colon between Estrella and Palma. This may be extreme to the east. Any other suggestions not too expensive? Thanks.

Mistake in the last post. Hotel San Diego is the one is right on Colon between Estrella and Palma. This may be extreme to the WEST. I know of a very nice apartment just North of Palma / Estrella on Benjamin Constant 685, corner of O'Leary. It is more expensive than the apartments near Excelsior at USD $55/ night but much nicer. Recommended for mongering or no? Apartments near Excelsior was $33.00 but very hard to work with the agents, almost impossible task.

[LifeIsABeach]

I had talked about two apartments that I saw on a Paraguay website. Trying to reserve one has been a pain in the neck. First I asked what pickup from airport would be as the flight from Lima comes in early in the morning, I was quoted USD $150.00. Next after many e-mails and not getting an answer, I was told the deposit would be $100.00 and a security deposit of $150.00 all in CASH and they do not take credit cards. Of course, I just cannot run over from USA to their office and pay the money in CASH. I wonder how many locals want to rent in Centro and have that much money available to hand over. It appears that I would be staying at a hotel. I had read posts from a monger who had stayed at Hotel Palmas del Sol, Espaa 202 casi Tacuar. Zona centro. Asuncion. Paraguay and found the hotel close to mongering departmentos. I might stay there. There is another one, Hotel San Diego and that one is right on Colon between Estrella and Palma. This may be extreme to the east. Any other suggestions not too expensive? Thanks.

[Hollywood124]

I just responded to your post but I don't think it went through?

OK, now I understand. I will be on the lookout for "Slim and Petit" ladies for you in ASU.

Have you been to Thailand and the Philippines? Many "Slim and Petit" ladies there. I been to both and had a great time.

I been too Medellin, Lima, Buenos Aires and always found "Slim and Petit" ladies there.

Keep looking and you will find what you are looking for.

Concerning Mercado 4, yes, I found it on a map and will go there to buy "Curios" (traditional arts and crafts) and ladies.

And I saw on the websites HOT and ASUNSEX "Indies" (Independents). I will give them a try also. (If the "Indies" are more expensive than the apartments then I will just stick to the apartments).

The USD (Dollar) is very weak against most foreign currencies. Damn, I am very worried. I wish I was paid in Euros.

OK, I'll soon be in ASU. Report to follow. Thanks again,

Hollywood

Some additional info. I forgot that Shopping Multiplaza is actually a 4th Mall. It is about 4 KM out on Eusebio Ayala. It was dying for years but lately has been reviving. It is still a lower class than the other 3 malls, but possibly larger. Ave Eusebio Ayala, by the way, is a major commercial street in and out of Asuncion. It goes from Asuncion Mercado 4 to San Lorenzo. It is lined with business, and a few big hypermarkets in the route. For the visitor, I doubt it would be all that interesting.

For you, Hollywood, I realize it might be hard to find Mercado 4 (Cuatro) on the map. The name stems from the fact that it began with a large building that was Mercado Municipal #4, which is still there. The area as it is thought of now is the triangle formed by the streets Peru, Pettirossi, and De Francia (yes, triangle! These you can find on a map of Centro. This whole area is now called Mercado Cuatro. It should prove interesting, at least...

[Hollywood124]

Hi Lexton and thanks!

Yes, I will be on the look out for "Petit" ladies for you in ASU.

Hey, I think you will enjoy the Philippines and Thailand as all they have are "Petit" and slim ladies. I have been to both. I had a good time. And I think you will have a great time in Asia too. Very many petit and slim women there. Don't forget Lima, Peru. They have all types, shapes, sizes and I sure you can find someone there to make you happy.

How about Medellin, Colombia. I have been there also and was very happy. A bit "Gringo-ized" and "Plastic-ized" (plastic surgery) but you should have good luck there with a little investigation on this forum. Oh, and don't forget EZE (Buenos Aires, Argentina). I visit yearly and always have a good time there.

Concerning Mercado 4, yes, I have found it on GoogleMaps.com. I'll check it out for buying Curios (traditional gifts) and Ladies.

I saw on the websites Hot and Asuncionsex that they have "Indies" (Independents). I think I will give some a try. (But If their price is more expensive than the apartments then I just go to the apartments, Mercado 4 and look for non-pros too).

I'm worried about the US Dollar as it keeps dropping against most foreign currencies. Today on the XE currency exchange the had the USD at 4367 to 1. Oanda had it at 4286 to 1. (Not sure if these 2 internet sites are relevant to the banking system in ASU) Damn, the USD still sucks!

OK, report to follow, thank you kindly.

Hollywood

Some additional info. I forgot that Shopping Multiplaza is actually a 4th Mall. It is about 4 KM out on Eusebio Ayala. It was dying for years but lately has been reviving. It is still a lower class than the other 3 malls, but possibly larger. Ave Eusebio Ayala, by the way, is a major commercial street in and out of Asuncion. It goes from Asuncion Mercado 4 to San Lorenzo. It is lined with business, and a few big hypermarkets in the route. For the visitor, I doubt it would be all that interesting.

For you, Hollywood, I realize it might be hard to find Mercado 4 (Cuatro) on the map. The name stems from the fact that it began with a large building that was Mercado Municipal #4, which is still there. The area as it is thought of now is the triangle formed by the streets Peru, Pettirossi, and De Francia (yes, triangle! These you can find on a map of Centro. This whole area is now called Mercado Cuatro. It should prove interesting, at least...

[Lexton]

Some additional info. I forgot that Shopping Multiplaza is actually a 4th Mall. It is about 4 KM out on Eusebio Ayala. It was dying for years but lately has been reviving. It is still a lower class than the other 3 malls, but possibly larger. Ave Eusebio Ayala, by the way, is a major commercial street in and out of Asuncion. It goes from Asuncion Mercado 4 to San Lorenzo. It is lined with business, and a few big hypermarkets in the route. For the visitor, I doubt it would be all that interesting.

For you, Hollywood, I realize it might be hard to find Mercado 4 (Cuatro) on the map. The name stems from the fact that it began with a large building that was Mercado Municipal #4, which is still there. The area as it is thought of now is the triangle formed by the streets Peru, Pettirossi, and De Francia (yes, triangle! These you can find on a map of Centro. This whole area is now called Mercado Cuatro. It should prove interesting, at least.

On the woman, I am not looking for any special woman. My problem is that I ONLY like short, slim women. Less than five foot three inch and 100 lb or about 46 Kg. In Paraguay this is like finding diamonds. Paraguay women tend to be tall and heavy. They love pasta, mandioca, and french fries.

I can't go to the apartments because if they don't have a woman my size I don't want anybody. So I could visit each apartment JUST ONCE alone. After that they would stone me on sight. Basically, hot.com does not show any smaller women. Asunsex is worse. They routinely add 10 cm to the measurement (maybe they measure them with the heels on). I have actually confirmed this. But even knowing this they are not small. The forums basically say there aren't any.

I suppose the tendency may come from the idea that models are generally tall. The Miss America types are now grotesque in the area of 180+cm. So there is this idea that ideal women are tall. I hate this, obviously. This could possibly be due to the fact that I am relatively short and slim myself.

So it is possible that there actually MAY BE a smaller, cute, light skinned woman hidden away in one of these apartmens at times. It occurs to me that one thing ISG'ers can do for ME is report if they see one. I have gone to various extremes trying to find women like this, with limited success. I am trying to think of new things now because I have recently lost 3 of my friends, 2 pregnant (by boyfriends) and one fat. I am currently offering a bonus to my friends here for introductions. I am so frustrated I am now investigating El Salvador and Columbia with a thought to going there a while. So far, the information is not promising. Returning to Buenos Aires isn't that attractive anymore either, it would seem.

Enjoy your trip. You will be fine.

[Hollywood124]

Hi Lexton!

Very nice to meet you.

Thanks for the information and support. This being my first time in ASU I'm a little nervous. I'll be OK.

I'll write a report on my findings.

BTW, what is the name of the lady you are looking for and where does she work?

Thanks again,

Hollywood

Crap. I knew that I didn't want to get involved in this. But I did. I used to post here years ago, but have been busy. But I was actually accused of writing bad reports on Paraguay on purpose also. But if you go read some of my past posts, nobody has ever said anything different.

Seriously, Life, look at some of those apt cross streets on the map like I said. You will see that they are mostly east and some north of Mall Excelsior and west and south of the Estigarriba / Estados Unidos corner. Maximum distance to an apart is about 15-20 blocks...

[Lexton]

Crap. I knew that I didn't want to get involved in this. But I did. I used to post here years ago, but have been busy. But I was actually accused of writing bad reports on Paraguay on purpose also. But if you go read some of my past posts, nobody has ever said anything different.

Seriously, Life, look at some of those apt cross streets on the map like I said. You will see that they are mostly east and some north of Mall Excelsior and west and south of the Estigarriba / Estados Unidos corner. Maximum distance to an apart is about 15-20 blocks from either address. Try to decide which might be more convenient for the apts you like.

Calle Colon defines the extreme west of Centro. It terminates in what used to be the Port of Asuncion. For this, it had activity like many streets near ports, and still has a little. But yes, of course, ALL of the apts will be east of Colon, except one which is actually on Colon.

Generally, for all, let me say this. Asuncion is very decentralized. It is not a high density city like the center of Panama City. It is more like San Jose, Costa Rica. Except that there is no Gringo Gulch equivalent anymore. The micro center is still a central point during the day because of the large number of government buildings and the congress, but this is also changing slowly. Thus, the night life is decentralized. There is no equivalent of Palermo in Buenos Aires.

Buses entering from the airport and Villa Morra over Ave España and Mariscal Lopez enter Centro over Mariscal Estigarriba and exit over Oliva. Buses that come from Eusebio Ayala and Ave Fernando de la Mora generally enter over Diaz and exit over Humaita (or Haeda? Buses over Espaa and Lopez only run until about 2100 inbound and 2200 outlbound. That includes Shopping Del Sol, Hollywood. Bus #27 runs 24 hours over Ayala, but will not help you guys. Bus transport after about 2100 is not frequent. The buses are very crowded, especially during peak hours, and outbound after about 1400.

When I said the area around Estados Unidos and Estigarriba is lonely, that is figurative. Most things close at 1700-1800 and then it is residential. There ARE some bars and restaurants, but not one after another. For example, Pub Britannia is over near Crowne Plaza. It is locals, all spanish speakers. Most of the streets are practically deserted after about 2000.

There is still some activity in the streets of Palma and Estrella at night, more than any other street in Centro. Hotel Guarani and the casino are on Plaza Independencia there. There are some fast food restaurants, and there is a new Fridays that I think is open now. There are also some SW at night, but not more than 5-6 generally. There are a couple of discos. I think Africa is still open.

Most of the growth was in the areas of Carmellitas and Villa Morra. Now it is Aviadores del Chaco (read airport) and Santa Teresa. Thats where the new World Trade Center is, the Hotel Sheraton, Shopping Del Sol. All of these areas are characterized by new money and actually many rich, especially Carmellitas. There are several discos in Villa Morra / Carmelitas, with wealthy clients. There are a couple of discos around ave Madame Lynch. Big night in discos is Sat. You are not likely to find much.

Walking by day is generally safe all over, unless you find yourself in a real slum suddenly. Not a joke, neighborhoods can change from one to another quickly. One of the worst slums used to be right behind congress, illegally built on the flood plain. It was cleared to put in the new Costanerea, but parts still remain, Much of the river area is flooded now, and there are thousands of homeless. Many indigenous are camped out around the old train station beside Plaza Uruguaya. But they generally don't cause trouble. Just pay attention and you will be OK.

Walking at night, the streets are generally deserted, as I said. So you are best off thinking of travel at night as point A to point B, not meandering. Except on Palma and Estrella, and of course out in the wealthier areas. But distances tend to be further out there, not good for walking anyway.

Mercado 4 (quatro) can be an interesting experience by day once, especially for you, Hollywood, since you speak spanish well. It is a large old market area, highly concentrated. It is relatively cheap and generally poor people, but safe by day. Closes about 1800. Look for it on the map. It is just possible you may hit something, with a good game.

I can't help on the apartments, because I do't go to them. But you can help me. If by chance you SHOULD encounter a waif type of 44 kilos (five foot two type), report where. But I don't hold out much hope.

So you are looking at sex in apts by day and iffy by night. Which is why I said the Mall Excelsior might be useful, it is open till 2130 or so with a food court and supermarket.

There are really only 3 malls in Asuncion proper: Mall Excelsior, Shopping Mariscal Lopez, and Shopping del Sol. There are a few big stores in the Micro Center, near the Palma-Estrella stretch. There are big stores over Calle San Martin, between Shopping del Sol and Shopping Mariscal. I have walked this stretch many times, Hollywood.

That's enough to think about for today.

[LifeIsABeach]

Hi "LifeIsABeach,

Thank you kindly for the very helpful post as I am going to ASU in about a week!

I'm a little nervous as I never have been to ASU before.

The list of "Casas" that you have been to will greatly save me time and money.

I will be on the lookout for non-pros also as I prefer everyday, girl-next-door types. (Plastic Colombianas with heavy makeup that I have seen in Panama really turn me off).

I speak Spanish well and have been to many places in Latin America. I think I will be taking the bus to the "Casa" and walking back to see the city of ASU. I'll post my finding for all to see.

Thanks again,

Hollywood

Hollywood, nothing to worry about. I like to travel to different countries and mostly each country is new for me. I have never been to Paraguay nor Peru, my trip this time. I have never worried about my limited Spanish though I am going to brush up on that. I have been to countries where French is spoken and the French I learned via computer was pretty useless though I still got the girls. I am looking forward to Paraguay, about 10 days and I meet some very beautiful Paraguayan women in Argentina with smooth skin and decided on that trip in 2009 to visit Paraguay. Right now I m looking up the flights to ASU from Lima. Have a good trip.

[Hollywood124]

Hi "LifeIsABeach,

Thank you kindly for the very helpful post as I am going to ASU in about a week!

I'm a little nervous as I never have been to ASU before.

The list of "Casas" that you have been to will greatly save me time and money.

I will be on the lookout for non-pros also as I prefer everyday, girl-next-door types. (Plastic Colombianas with heavy makeup that I have seen in Panama really turn me off).

I speak Spanish well and have been to many places in Latin America. I think I will be taking the bus to the "Casa" and walking back to see the city of ASU. I'll post my finding for all to see.

Thanks again,

Hollywood

I have tried to compile this list with addresses and comments from other punters and may be helpful. I needed it to figure out where the casas are in my hotel / apartment choice. I am not sure that google is correct in pointing out the places and addresses. The list may need to be updated and please do so. Lexton, you mean "What night activity there is, is in the Palma-Estrella area, with some restaurant options. " street girls etc. ? I saw some fast food places, a few bars and a club. I'll decide tomorrow and your choice of staying near the Mall Excelsior may be good as I might hit on some women there with my broken Spanish!

Budget Sex in ASU.

Parada 838 on Itubre 838. On Itubre, between Eduardo Victor Haedo and Fulgencio are Moreno.
This was the best budget place I tried. It had air conditioned rooms.
8 girls ranged from 3-8 in looks. I tried a petite one.
Price 100,000 for 45 minutes...

[LifeIsABeach]

I have tried to compile this list with addresses and comments from other punters and may be helpful. I needed it to figure out where the casas are in my hotel / apartment choice. I am not sure that google is correct in pointing out the places and addresses. The list may need to be updated and please do so. Lexton, you mean "What night activity there is, is in the Palma-Estrella area, with some restaurant options. " street girls etc. ? I saw some fast food places, a few bars and a club. I'll decide tomorrow and your choice of staying near the Mall Excelsior may be good as I might hit on some women there with my broken Spanish!

Budget Sex in ASU.

Parada 838 on Itubre 838. On Itubre, between Eduardo Victor Haedo and Fulgencio are Moreno.
This was the best budget place I tried. It had air conditioned rooms.
8 girls ranged from 3-8 in looks. I tried a petite one.
Price 100,000 for 45 minutes. There was a special in April. 2 girls for 30 minutes (Price 130,000).

PY Escorts house at 462 Cerro Cora. On Cerro Cora and Radio Operadores del Chaco.
2nd best place I tried. 4 girls ranged from 3-7 in looks.
Price 100,000 for 30 minutes. If you look at the girls and don't choose one, the host will charge you a 10,000 look fee.
PYEscorts seems to be the classiest place in the Centro. PYEscorts encourages the chica to display themselves in attractive street clothes: dresses or jeans. PYEscorts sometimes has only three chicas available at 11 AM and sometimes up to nine. The price is 150.000, and I don't know if they even have a 30-minute rate. Servicio completo is negotiated with the chica in the room, usually an additional 100.000.

Deseos Agency. Located on 14 de Mayo street and Manduvira.
It's on the left hand side almost at the corner, blue windows and doors. The key is the loud music coming from the building, that's how you know you are there. There is no signs anywhere. The best way to find it is get to Plaza Italia and get on 14 de Mayo which is a one way street on the corner of Manduvira there is a small grocery store its right before it. There are a lot more girls there than on the website and they are very fine. The price has not changed, it is 100,000 GU ($22.00) for 30 minutes, Place is very clean and the beers are only $2. 00 US.

Lilith at 313 Cerro Cora. On Paraguari.
This is a day-only casa. Usually there are only 4 or 5 chicas working there at 11 AM. Had great attitudes. This might be the cleanest casa in the Centro, and so far I have gotten the same room with private bath on all six visits.

Valkyries on Azara 905 Apartments A & B. On Felix de Azara and Tacuan.
3 girls. I liked a petite one, but didn't try her.
Cost 100,000 for 30 minutes.

Cabellero 903. On Cabellero and Dr. Manual Dominguez.
Located on the southeast corner of Cabellero and Dr. Manuel Dominguez streets. The door is open. 4 ugly girls. Sometimes my standards can be pretty low, but even I had to say no thanks. That explains the price.
Price 70,000 for 30 minutes.

Estados Unidos 258 Apartment B. On Estados Unidos and Fulgencio are Moreno.
3 girls. 2 ugly and one OK. The OK girl had a bad attitude. She looked Ok in her high heels, but did not have enough curves for me. If you like a girl that is flat in the hips and ass, you would like her.
Price 120,000 for 30 minutes.

Estados Unidos 525. Google shows this also at on Estados Unidos and Fulgencio are Moreno. Must be close.
3 girls. I liked one of them. She seemed demure. I didn't buy a girl.
Price 100,000.

Azara 1270. On Felix de Azara and Tacuan.

Azara 1565. On Felix de Azara and Tacuan.

New Elite at 217 Cerro Cora.
Here I am not sure if they change the sheets regularly, but there is at least one room with a private bath.

[LifeIsABeach]

I am not sure if I understand what you are trying to do, and this is how it gets complicated. You were talking about hotels, and then you talk about 2 apartments. Are you planning on renting a temporary apartment instead of a hotel? For how long?

The area on the east and north of el centro has the newer buildings, since the city grew easterly. But there isn't much else out there. It is relatively lonely. I think the area of Estados Unidos and Estigarriba is near Hotel Cecilia, which has a restaurant. Also Crowne Plaza.

For more than a day or two, you would probably be more comfortable near the Mall Excelsior. It is a straight trip from there to the area of Palma-Estrella, and you have the mall, with a supermarket. I have walked it many times by day but never at night. It is probably not bad with normal caution. The apartments would generally be east of Mall Excelsior, but there are some in the north also, in the area 25 de Mayo and Azara. What night activity there is is in the Palma-Estrella area, with some restaurant options.

But if you are going to take a lot of taxis, the comfort of the building might be more important. Also the distance to the girl's apartments. So pin a few of interest on the map if being central to those is important.

Right now I am looking at both apartments and also hotels. I am going to be staying about 10 days in Asuncion. I do get tired of hotels after a few days. I like the idea of getting up when I want, eating when I want and generally to be struck by the hotels schedule. I do not want to take taxis if I do not have to. I would prefer to walk to the chicca places. So you think that the area around calle Piribebuy and 14 de Mayo, near Excelsior Mall is quite safe and also chica convenient? This place is also USD 11.00 cheaper than the place on Estigarriba between Estados Unidos and Brazil. Having looked at the map , at Colon, we have Palma, Estrella and Olivia and going East, they change the names to Mcal Estigarriba, 25 de Mayo and Cerro Cora. I read on the past posts of punters that Colon is too far for girls departmentos and the action is on the East. Approximately which cross streets of Palma and Estrella are the girls departmentos? I do not think they are in the southern part of Centro but I could be wrong.

[Lexton]

I am not sure if I understand what you are trying to do, and this is how it gets complicated. You were talking about hotels, and then you talk about 2 apartments. Are you planning on renting a temporary apartment instead of a hotel? For how long?

The area on the east and north of el centro has the newer buildings, since the city grew easterly. But there isn't much else out there. It is relatively lonely. I think the area of Estados Unidos and Estigarriba is near Hotel Cecilia, which has a restaurant. Also Crowne Plaza.

For more than a day or two, you would probably be more comfortable near the Mall Excelsior. It is a straight trip from there to the area of Palma-Estrella, and you have the mall, with a supermarket. I have walked it many times by day but never at night. It is probably not bad with normal caution. The apartments would generally be east of Mall Excelsior, but there are some in the north also, in the area 25 de Mayo and Azara. What night activity there is is in the Palma-Estrella area, with some restaurant options.

But if you are going to take a lot of taxis, the comfort of the building might be more important. Also the distance to the girl's apartments. So pin a few of interest on the map if being central to those is important.

[LifeIsABeach]

The Centro area is small, compact, walkable to all areas. Go for best apartment in best building. After all, you might actually encounter a non-pro, and if you can figure out to do with her, the apartment will matter a lot. Also, the casa girls can meet you off-time.

"Touristy stuff"? Jeje, about an afternoon to see it all. Otherwise you can walk up and down the number and named streets looking for open doorways to walk up and discover what awaits within. Nightlife downtown bar weekends starts late.

Thanks for the advice Golfinho. The more expensive one seems to be better choice as it is in a better location and in a Medical building on the 6th floor. I do aim to see other parts of Paraguay and intend to take trips outside of Asuncion, not for mongering but see life as is in a laid back country, not hustle and bustle of other industrialized nations. That's the beauty of Paraguay and why people like it. It is not a tourist trap like Siem Reap where the temples are at Angor what. It is what it is and that's all I am expecting. Paraguay trip was chosen for what Paraguay is and wanting anything else. Thanks.

[Golfinho]

I do touristy stuff too but my base would be in the centro. I understand that everyone has their own likes and dislikes and no one would be 'blamed' for anything, I would like to know which one of the two apartments would be a better choice without taking the cost into account as both are affordable.

The Centro area is small, compact, walkable to all areas. Go for best apartment in best building. After all, you might actually encounter a non-pro, and if you can figure out to do with her, the apartment will matter a lot. Also, the casa girls can meet you off-time.

"Touristy stuff"? Jeje, about an afternoon to see it all. Otherwise you can walk up and down the number and named streets looking for open doorways to walk up and discover what awaits within. Nightlife downtown bar weekends starts late.