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10-30-07 14:24 #172
Posts: 44Anybody to Cuzco on Nov 14?
I am going to be in Cuzco on November 14 and planning to visit Machu Pichu. If anybody is interested to join me going to Machu Pichu, pm me.
Aurab
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10-29-07 15:59 #171
Posts: 244Originally Posted by Rick Williams
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10-20-07 23:19 #170
Posts: 5Stud
Thanks a TON steve for taking all the time to put in the details.
I'll get everything arranged and post it here next week, then after my trip mid-November I will post what actually happened LOL and we can laugh over the differences.
Thanks again
Rick
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10-19-07 22:45 #169
Posts: 161Originally Posted by Rick Williams
Understand that the trains that leave from cusco all leave early. No way around that from Cusco.
So you have to go to Ollantaytamo to catch a 2:55 train to Agus Calienete.
So how far is Ollantaytamo from Cusco -- FAR. Its an hour and half ride by cab. It costs about $30 though you could probably get it cheaper.
Now getting any ticket out of peru rail is a total pain in the ass. They only do it by email and it takes them forever to get back to you. Then you would have to pick that ticket up in Cusco somewhere in the morning so you would have it for the train ride. I don't think you can pick up the ticket in Ollantaytamo.
You want to go to Sacred Valley part of the peru rail site. Get the round trip ticket from Ollantaytamo to Aguis Caliente.
The hotel you are staying in Aguis Caliente will often pick the train ticket up for you and arrange the cab. Gringo Bills did that for me for a small fee. I would recommend this highly.
Now the benefit of this is you do not have to ride the train for 4 hours. It is only an hour and a half ride. You end of paying about the same when you figure in cab costs. The cab ride is cool.
Once you are in Aguis Caliente you can buy the Machu Pichu entrance ticket and bus ticket there. No need to pre-order that.
You could bypass the whole Ollyanta thing and get your ass up early and take the trains from Cusco in that you are staying in Cusco first night.
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10-19-07 16:40 #168
Posts: 5I hope this Machu Picchu question is clearer
First, sorry I didnt format my reply so you can clearly see what Steve 99 wrote in 183 vs. My questions, so here goes again. Steve says:
1. Fly to Cuzco
2. Taxi to Ollyanta
3. 255 train to Aguas Calientes
4. See Machu Picchu next day
5. Train back to Ollyanta
6. Taxi again to Cuzco
7. Fly back to Lima
Here is what I'm trying to do so I don't have to fiddle around at 5 or 6 a. M.
A)fly to Cuzco stay overnight
B)get to Aguas somehow middle of the day next day
C)stay 2 nights at Aguas, visit Machu Picchu
D)go back to Cuzco in the middle of the day
E)overnight again in Cuzco
F)fly back to Lima
So what is the best way to go from Cuzco to Aguas Calientes in the middle of the day?
I also need to know how long it takes to get a train ticket mid-November plus a Machu Picchu access pass for $43 (do I have to pay all that each day? ) plus a bus pass for $12.
Sorry to drive you nuts about this, it's a very long trip from San Francisco, don't want to screw it up.
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10-19-07 01:25 #167
Posts: 5Please help with a bit more detail on how to go to Machu Picchu
What you are going to do is stay at Aguis Calenente the first night. This is the village below Machu Pichu. I stayed at Gringo Bills which is kinda expensive at $75 USD bucks but is cool built into the mountain. So you fly into Cusco from Lima in the morning. Then you take a cab from Cusco to Ollyanta. This is the last stop on the train before it goes onto to Ague Calentes. The train you want to get is the 2:55 pm train. The cab ride is about an hour and a half but is cool scenery going through the Sacred Valley. I paid $30 USD for this ride but you can get it cheaper. Gringo Bills can set it up for you. Also you need to get your train ticket through the hotel so the cab driver will have the ticket for you.
Then you take the train back to Ollyanta and take cab into Cusco and stay the night in Cusco and get a headache from the high altitude. I stayed 2 nights in Cusco which was about right. I planned on 1 but extended it to 2.
Thanks a ton for all the info but I'm still a little bit lost. Here's what I understood:
1. Fly to cuzco, I have a ticket already
2. I'll stay one afternoon and overnight in cuzco, sounds cool.
3. Then I had figured out that I need to stay in aguas calientes to be close enough to take a short bus ride to machu picchu. I was just going to take a daytime train (not some 6 a. M. Thing) and go comfortably the next day to aguas, sleep there overnight
4. See machu picchu next day and sleep over in aguas again.
5. Go to machu again if it was foggy day before or just take the train whenever back to cuzco sleep overnight there again.
6. Fly back to Lima
So where and why does ollyanta come into this?
What is the simplest and shortest way to get from cuzco to aguas calientes and back again?
I'm not in a hurry, just want it real simple.
Thanks a ton guys
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10-17-07 01:53 #166
Posts: 402Can anyone give me a good monger freindly hotel, that is on the inexpensive side (say, 30bucks or under).
Any updates on MPs?
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10-05-07 00:03 #165
Posts: 244apparently the women in Cusco are free...just buy them a drink,dance with them and an hour later tell them you are going and ask them along.
ps...donīt tell anyone.
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10-01-07 07:04 #164
Posts: 704You got it Polvo!
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09-30-07 02:09 #163
Posts: 679Go ahead, bust my balls
Originally Posted by Doc BillOriginally Posted by Polvo
There are some who would say, "why make mistakes when you were carefully guided". Me, I'll accept a beer from you next week!! LOL
Suerte!
Polvo
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09-29-07 13:03 #162
Posts: 161Originally Posted by Clodbuster
If you go my route and stay at Aguis Calente first night you need to have the hotel get your train ticket and arrange your taxi. That way when you get off the plaine the cab is there to take you to Ollyanta and also has the train ticket.
You cannot wing it with the train. They are full from what I saw. Now if it was off season maybe yes but I wouldn't risk it.
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09-29-07 04:59 #161
Posts: 704Hey Steve,
Go ahead, bust my balls, I should have listened to you. I just had already had the hotel reserved and I thought, wrongly, that how big a deal can the train ride be? And as I said I had things planned too tightly and with early morning rises so I wasnīt into experimenting at night with some of the places you suggested. If I had it to do over again, and I will, Iīd spend a couple of more days in Cuzco so I could relax a bit and take a slower pace.
Besides, I wanted to do it the wrong way as a personal sacrifice to this forum, to set an example and help others on the board who might have been considering doing it my way too, so that those who come after me can learn from my mistakes and not make them themselves.
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09-29-07 04:58 #160
Posts: 71STeve 99 - Do You Need Reservations?
Originally Posted by Steve 99
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09-29-07 02:54 #159
Posts: 161Hey Doc:
Not to bust you balls.
But did you read my post below???? I laid it all out for you. Oh well... Maybe you didn't read it in time.
I barely got my chica into my hotel. They do look down on it. I had to pay extra for her. There are a lot of chicas for the taking in the strip clubs.
And I can feel your pain on the train ride. I was only on it an hour and a half each way and that was PLENTY...
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09-28-07 04:02 #158
Posts: 704Ok, itīs a joke....
But not really. This is a very conservative town. I toured the central plaza numerous times at night and the few times I saw a girl alone that I thought might be working she wouldnīt look at me. And I may not be Robert Redford but I ainīt ugly! I went to Mama Africas, some girls in there, but again no looks, it was as if I was invisible. Iīm 50 and most people there were much younger, so that may have had something to do with it. Nice club, though, and great music.
I got some other options from you guys, which I appreciate, but I wasnīt willing to do the work for it. I had a whirlwind schedule and between that and the altitude I was in no mood to go out seriously exploring at night. Plus the hotels very strongly discourage guests. There are no love motels that I could find, and the massage parlors are really just that - no happy endings either.
Now read how I did Cuzco and Machu Picchu and do it any other way than mine. Mine was so wrong.
Fortunately the altitude didnīt bother me much. I got some pills in Lima called Acetazolamida (250 mg, one a day), and either they worked well or Iīm just not prone to altitude sickness. I hit the ground running an hour after I got there with a city tour, then an all day (read: starts at 7am) tour of ruins the next day, then after 4 hours of sleep Machu Picchu the following and final day.
I didnīt get much out of MP, but it might have been different if I didnīt spend nine hours on buses and trains having to listen toĻ"El Condor Pasa" over and over again, for a tour that lasted just shy of 3 hours. If I ever hear that song again Iīm gonna rip someoneīs eyes out, I swear.
So if youīre going to see Machu Picchu, go spend the night before at Aguas Calientes, get up in the morning, take a 20 minute bus ride to the site and enjoy it all day. It really is incredible, I just wasnīt in the space to really appreciate it.
Iīm straying from the purpose of this forum so PM me if you want any more information on this.
Lots of tourists, lots of families. But a mongering town Cuzco is not.