Cusco

[Tantrik]

I'm hardly a local, but I can tell you some things from a Western perspective, after a few trips to Lima/Cusco.

Lima is a huge city with over six million people - you can experience everything from the most exquisite luxury to the utmost squalor there. The whole city is hardly either this or that. However, it is a third world city, so there are a lot more shitholes than nice places there. You just have to spend some time studying your Lonely Planet guide to find the good places. Also, crime is high. The poor areas are no-go ( or drive )-zone, and Miraflores isn't completely safe either, but the risks are acceptable if you behave smart.

Cusco is much nicer concerning crime, I didn't talk to anyone who to me they had been mugged or attacked there the last time I visited. Also, it's much cheaper than Lima. I had a really nice time there.

Peru is a very diverse country ( deserts, mountains covered in snow 365 days/year, highlands, beaches, jungles ) and so are the chicks. Lima has the best chicks IMO - especially among middle classes. They're a mix between european and indian blood, and a significant percentage of the available ones tend to be very good looking. The rest of the country will be more indian looking, and IMO not quite as pretty ( but still some good lookers ). Actually most of the good looking girls I met in Cusco were Lima girls on summer ( winter in Europe ) holiday.

Which city? Depends on what you want, really. If you want a safe, inexpensive and cozy, townish city to party in, choose Cusco. If you want to spend some cash to get something bigger and more cosmopolitan, go to Lima.

If your spanish sucks, you'll have a much bigger chance talking to the more educated Limeñas than the Cusqueñas. However, Cusco has alot more euro/us/aussie/SA native english speakers per person, many of them stranded there because of the cheap coke that's made right up the hillside, I suspect. So again, it depends on you.

[Saint]

I'm headed to Cusco in late April. I don't really find Peruvian girls that attractive overall. I'm mainly going to Peru to see Machu Picchu. If given the choice would most of you stay longer in Lima or Cusco? I heard Lima was a dump. Is that true?

[Tantrik]

Thanks Ferolga!

Nice to receive praise from an experienced SA traveller.

Concerning the weather in Cusco at the time, it was much better than expected. Experienced only one shower, which was a relief, since this was supposed to be in the middle of the rainy season.

I also noticed a club called Noika on the way to the airport, which hasn't been reviewed here yet. Might be worth checking out if you're in the area.

[Ferolga777]

Tantrik

Super report. Thank you. The non-pro can be much more satisfying than the pro scene and it seems that you did well.

ferolga

[Tantrik]

Cusqueña mongrino esperienca
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Hi all, here's some stuff on my experiences in Cuzco. I was there for about two weeks starting at the beginning of January this year.

Warning: The following contains behaviour which some may find to be chump-like, as well as britchera action and subtle bragging. Read at your peril!



I only had one pro experience in Cuzco, and it was a disappointment. Went to La Rumba at about 10 o'clock on a Thursday. I was the only male when I entered, and the guy in charge seemed eager to get me inside. He asked me if I liked darker or lighter girls, I answered I didn't really care as long as they were beautiful. He sends me a lithe chick, early-mid 20s. Big boobs ( C+ ) for such a slim girl, 45-50 kilos and around 160 cm - a 9-9.5 body. Her name was Mel, and she was *calitente*:-) So warm she had no problem walking around in a negliché in the not so warm club. Also, she was very cheerful, flirty and smiling. She had the kind of moves you expect from a girl that really likes sex and knows how to give you a very good time. Her face didn't really appeal to me though, it was too broad. I wanted to take a look around before deciding, and then I saw

Daisy. She was a perfect 10 in my book, wonderfully beautiful face, young ( looked 20 ), slim and sexy bod, tall for a Cuzco-girl ( 5'8 ), and great big ( D-DD ) breasts. She managed to milk me for 3 drinks ( at 20 soles each ), plus the standard 35 soles barfine. We agreed to sex for an hour at 160 soles ( 40 euros ), but that's where the trouble began. She claimed I was too big for her, and kept crying out in pain when I entered her. Maybe most guys in this part of the world aren't very well endowed, I dunno. I certainly had problems with the condoms there, one kind was too short to fit me, which resulted in it slipping. The third condom in that pack actually broke, and I didn't notice before I deposited a healthy load of sperma into one of my local gfs love-hives. And these were imported Durex condoms, not some local basement brand. Luckily I got her to take some pills that were supposed to hinder pregnancy... But back to the main story. It seemed a bit unsportswomanlike of her, I'm hung well over normal for a european, but I'm not a John Holmes either. I agreed to give her 60 soles for her time and take her back to the club. We kissed each other goodbye, I was feeling tired and headed back to my hotel.

The quality of the chicks in the club was disappointing. One girl looked young ( 20+- ) and had looks, soul and character, a bit like Frida Kahlo, minus the ugly eyebrows. But except for her and the two girls I met, the quality was very average. There was a lot of boobage there though, so if you're into large naturals, you'll like this place. Of course, as long as you manage to pick out a great looking girl, it doesn't matter if the rest are so-so. This place doesn't have beds on the premises btw. The rest of this review is non pro stuff, so if that doesn't rock your boat, you might as well stop reading here.

Britcheras aplenty there, I kinda liked them - they were often very pretty, entertaining and cheerful. Nice company, in other words. I hanged out with a bunch consisting of 3-7 Lima chicks, where 2 were 9 1/2s, one 9, 2 8s, one 4 and one was a ( clear! ) 1. Luckily the ugly one didn't stick too often. I used to buy food and drinks for them, and I didn't mind, drinks were around 1 euro at the irish pub and Mama Amerika, and they didn't drink too heavily. The food was cheap as (w/h)ell, 1-3 euros for a good dish, and they used to share their meals with their friends.

Some people might think that paying for chicks without pressing for anything back is a stupid thing to do. Generally I agree with that, but not in this case. As I mentioned, the girls were really pretty and great company. There's something special about walking around in the city as the only male with a bunch of modelesque young eye candy flirting with you, people stop and start smiling and looking at you while talking to eachother, one guy in a shop handed me a condom with a smirk on his face... :-) And since they were unspoilt and low maintainance, total expenditures came to about 20-30 euro a day, which seems a reasonable deal to me.

Anyway, I was pulled out of their arms ( literally ) by another girl from Lima, who wanted some close attention. A fresh young ( 20 ) university student who I came to like a lot and became my gf. As far as looks were concerned, she was an 8. After I began banging her regularly, one of the chicks from the Lima gang ( the 9 ) made it clear she wanted me to bang her. And so I was pulled back and forth between those two groups for the rest of my trip. Quite a nice feeling really.

On the whole I'd recommend Cuzco to any caucasian guy, especially if you're from the USA and Western Europe, except maybe Germany - a lot of the girls I met seemed to dislike germans, for some reason. The girls really like white guys there, the whiter the better. You'll have no trouble picking up girls if you look ok, everything is cheap there, crime is low and the cocaleaves are great. Two things though: The girls expect you to pay for them atleast some times, and it will help you immensly to know some spanish.

[Don River]

Gringo Loco #2:

I don't know what your budget is, but you can get a suite with a whirlpool and sauna in the Maria Angola in Mira Flores for 1/2 of what a room costs at the Marriott.

Don

[Member #3407]

Goodby Cuzco, Iquitos here I come!

For those of you that have been following the Cusco Forum, I just completed a two month layover in Cuzco before continuing on my journey to Iquitos and Brazil.

It wasn't easy to leave Cuzco. It seemed every one of my girlfriends there wanted to give me one final farewell fuck. What's a poor boy to do? So many cholitas and only one night!

The weather in Cuzco was wonderful during my stay, but soon the torrential rainfall will start (December until April) making it much less desirable.

I will return in April of 2004, after the rainy season. I have received lots of emails from mongers considering travelling to Cuzco and Iquitos. My advise is to avoid Cuzco from December until April due to the heavy, constant rainfall. It rains so much, they actually have to close the Inka Trail to Machupicchu.

Therefore, I am recommending travelling to Iquitos during these months. Sure it rains there, but usually only for an hour or so and then lots of sun and hot charapita action.

Anyway, onwards to Iquitos and charapitas. If anyone wants to hookup, please let me know. I should be here for three weeks before departing for the Columbia-Peru-Brazil frontier on the Amazon River.

DDM

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[Member #3407]

The Shaman

Tonight I had a shaman, who only speaks quechua, read my fortune using coca leaves. That's right, coca leaves. Here they use coca leaves instead of tea, and the results proved to be very interesting.

To begin, the shaman had me breath three times on the coca leaves while still wrapped in a cloth. He then opened the cloth containing the coca leaves and one leaf was on the perimeter of the cloth, while the rest of the leaves were in the center. This leaf, he explained, represented my ex-wife that was far away from me. Next, pointing to a small leaf, he correctly told me about my adopted son. This was getting a little spooky. How the hell did he know about my ex-wife and son?

Continuing to throw coca leaves and interpreting the positions that they landed in, he then told me that two cholitas were after me (what? only two?) and that they were not from Cuzco (correct, one was from Quillabamba and the other was originally from Arequipa). Next, the shaman told me that I was cheating on them with other women (what? a monger that cheats on women?).

I asked him about my upcoming trip to Brazil, and he told me it would be a successful trip and that I would successfully seduce some brasileras and, of course, cheat on them. The shaman told me that I had some money saved for this trip and that I was trying to be thrifty with my money. I asked him if I was a "tacano" or tightwad, and he said no, that I was only trying to extend my trip longer.

Unfortunately, the shaman also told me some things I didn't relish; that I would one day return to my ex-wife and be reunited with her (a monger's worse nightmare). Of course, he told me that I would continue to cheat on her with other women (I liked that part).

All in all, my coca leaf reading session really was an enjoyable experience, and I recommend that all mongers visiting Cuzco give it a try.

DDM

[Member #3407]

Bunda Blast,

Yep, Cuzco is a good home base to explore the near-by ruins, including Machupicchu. Incredibly, the original inka stonework serves as the foundation for most of the buildings in the center of town.

It's a magical place, that you will love!

DDM

[Bunda Blast]

Dan Da Man,

Thanks for all of the great reports! I am an experienced traveler to BA, Brazil, Cuba and DR. I love taking in the sights along with the mongering. Can you fill me in on some basic geography? Is Cuzco where one goes to get to Machu Pichu? If so, is it close and should I use it as a home base?

Thanks

[J Wadd]

Thanks for the good wishes. I agree that Spanish would have help me much more -- I know a little but no where near enough. Indeed, I've noticed a big increase in play this time around in Brasil with increased Portugese skill.

I look forward to returning to Peru, and will certainly highlight Cusco on that trip. I think that credit card mess I was having there might have contributed to a sour outlook -- which we all know rebounds in the form of dismal experience.

Thanks again and keep up the good work,
JW

[Member #3407]

Hey Johnny Wadd,

Thanks for the excellent report. Too bad I wasn't able to personally show you around Cuzco, but you seemed to have done alright for yourself here. The thing you really seemed to have lacked here, that I could have helped with, was some girlfriend action. I introduced you to a girlfriend I know in Lima and I would have liked to have done the same for you here in Cuzco.

Johnny, I would like to add a few things to perhaps shed some light on your personal biases and experiences, making some contrasts with Lima. First, you prefer blonds and white chicks. I'm just the opposite and have very little attraction to girls of european descent. Consequently, I just love these cholitas. They are usually small and thin, very dark skinned with large almond eyes, high cheekbones, and have nice firm tits. My kind of women, not yours. Second, by sticking with pros and bricheras (semi-pros) you limited yourself to outsiders (limeñas and charapitas) and didn't have a chance to experience real cholitas and cusqueñas.

It's not that difficult or time-consuming to meet cholitas if you speak spanish, and I would have liked to have turned you on to some materials to learn spanish and portuguese. The key to my success with cholitas and girlfriend action is my language abilities and my understanding of latin culture. I speak damn good spanish and portuguese thanks to my Pimsleur and Rosetta Stone foreign language CDs. Johnny, for some reason, despite all your time in Brasil and South America, you have resisted learning the local languages. I hope one day you can learn the local lingo and really experience some dynamite latina girlfriend action.

With respect to Lima, I totally confused as to why someone would return there so quickly. IMHO it is so much cheaper and safer here that it makes little sense for someone on a limited budget to blow all their cash visiting expensive places like Tequila Rocks and Barranco Suites in Lima. I'm here on an extended trip that is projected to last for three years. If I blew all my cash on the overpriced pros in Lima, I'd have to return to the US in a few months. Compared to Lima, the action here is dirt cheap. Here it is extremely rare to encounter a cover charge; in fact, they usually give you free drink tickets in Cuzco at places like Mama Amerika near the Plaza de Armas. I have no problem encountering knockout women in the clubs or at the La Curva chongo where the going price is 13 soles or $3.75. Sure, you have to sort through some women with ordinary looks, but jewels abound here. You just have to look for them. With repect to housing, I'm paying 15 soles or $4.33 per night for a wonderful room compared to the $25 - 50 most mongers are paying in Miraflores. A good multi-course meal here costs 3 soles or $0.86 (drink included) compared to $10 - 20 at Pizza Alley in Miraflores. I just love this town!

Johnny, I wish you good luck on your journeys and hope one day you can return here and really experience the Cuzco I know - the grand imperial city of the Inkas - and its cholitas!

DDM

[Member #3407]

Hey Tom,

Good to hear you are coming to Cuzco. Give me a shout at my [Email address deleted by Admin] and I will email you info on where to stay and any other info you need.

I should be around until the 23rd of November. I planned on leaving a month earlier, but can't seem to leave even though I have charapitas (jungle girls) waiting for me in Iquitos.

Life is so rough here in Peru, having to decide between cholitas (mountain girls) and charapitas.

You're gonna love Cuzco!

DDM

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[Rap with Tom]

Hi All,

I'm a new member, and a new - full of anticipation? - monger. (Does that make me a wirgin?) Anyway I will be in Cusco beginning Nov 16 for 10 days. Will anybody else be around? DDM, will you still be around?

Tom

[J Wadd]

DanDaMan's report of 10/13 is the premier reference for Cusco. I want to start out by thanking him for the time he took to write it.

Maybe it was weather, the smog, or the aggressive tourist touts around Plaza de Armas, but my experience in Cusco wasn't quite as jolly. I do, however, have a little new information to add.

Firstly, there was a serious "beauty drought" in all of the professional venues in Cusco; Santutis, Mama Africa, La Rumba, etc. -- very few girls above a 6 (IMO). Ironically, the higher end the club seemed to get, the less pretty the girls seemed to be.

Let's take an individual look:

Mama Africa is a semi-pro joint with movies, music and tourists of both genders. On any given night you might find 20 or so free-lancers who show up for a little action. The place, however, had a bit of a feeling of a rip-off joint. Some of the girls seemed unnaturally hard-core. Most, though, were just chubby late-teens. The place is fun and friendly, though -- I had a great time there (drinking) and heartily recommend it as a place to pick up tourist chicks.

Santutis (or La Curva, Sol de Oro) is an outdoor brothel a little past El Condor. While cheap (about 20 soles for sex), the quality of women was abysmal. Fucking abysmal. Most of the 30-40 women present were about 30-50 pounds overweight -- many had 10-foot-identifiable body odor. Uh-huh. There was one cute girl there one night, but she would not perform BBBJ. Also, many of the girls fuck a new guy about every 15 minutes. Caveat emptor.

The two high-end clubs, La Rumba and Decameron, disappointed as well.

Decameron has not been mentioned by Dan -- it's just around the corner above the hill from the El Condor clubs (which I'll desribe a little later). It's supposedly the highest-end venue in Cusco.

I went there on a Thurs. and found about 15 girls to choose from. There is no entrance fee and no beds on site. Drinks are expensive and the girls get half (in cash) of whatever drinks you buy them. You can imagine how constantly harrassed you'll be to buy alcohol here.

The place is a perfect copy of a E. European club a la Prague, Budapest or Warsaw. The problem is, those clubs have good looking women -- women worth spending drink money on -- while this place lacked that quality of high-end beauty that these prices demand in a reasonable sportsman. Prices ranged in the 100-150 soles range, with negotiation expected. I do not know what the exit bar-fine is. I'm sure it's high.

La Rumba is a little higher up on the same line from El Condor. I wasn't there on a busy night, but it's about the same thing as Decameron. I must say I saw a few lovelies here. Give it a try.

"El Condor" signifies a large, pillored-statue of a condor around which cluster about 5 low-end clubs. Dan had some reservations about personal safety there, but I had absolutely no problems there 3 nights in a row. It's certainly nowhere near as rough as some of the joints I've explored in Lima and Brasil.

There's not much to see here, though. None of the clubs have an entrance fee, facilities or pretty girls. You can't even really live out some low-ball fantasy here. Beer's expensive, the girls are a little moochy, the Peruanos here get too drunk -- but again the place is fun in a wild-west kind of way. Check it out for the experience.

There's also a cluster of clubs sort of on the way to the airport on Alameda Pachacutec -- with names like "Noika," "Manhattan," etc. Most of these places seemed to be dance-halls, wherein the guy is expected to buy drinks for the girl of his choice and have a dance or two. Most of the women in all of these clubs were not there (surprisingly) for sex. These clubs certainly looked like pick-up joints. Anyway (to use a refrain), beer's expensive and the girls weren't attractive.

Well, that's about it. I was talked-up by Peruanas in Plaza de Armas quite frequently. That whole scene, though, seemed a little like a tourist lottery -- and too much work (with dinner-dates, shopping, courting, 6.5 looks, etc.) to be very intersting to me. I don't know, maybe Brasil has just spoiled me.

I hate to be such a nay-sayer, especially considering the rave reviews Cusco has received from the experienced sex-travelers below (and I want to say that I certainly respect their opinion) -- maybe I just had a bad run.

Happy Hunting,
JWadd, B.A.