Lima

[Lima Busy]

I had a good time in Lima recently and visited Banos Turcos behind Interbank Building. Well run place, mostly attractive girls in the 5-9 range. Had a good hour session and enjoyed having her take care of me. Cost was reasonable at S80 for the house and S50 for the girl. I thought S50 was a decent tip (she said she does about 5 men per day, so it would come out to S250. But she pressured me to tip more, even though there was no full service.

Visited Banos Turcos at Hotel Bruce. Vastly inferior and would not go back.

Otherwise, I had much better luck just meeting girls on the street.

I have not been there in (R&V) in sometime but do to it's popularity prices must be rising. It used to be S/.70 plus the standard S/.30 for propina and S/.50 for FS. With regards to the "Bruce Hotel/Casino/Chinese restaurant/Spa/Playa and soon to open Money launderer" it has always been a "poor value proposition" for the uninformed. A friend used to know a few "8's" that we could have before their shift for S/.100 for a few hours. He used to wait for them at Vivanda aka Santa Isabel back in the day.

Lima's streets IMHO has always had some of the best "low hanging fruit" in SA and is the reason so many guy's keep coming back to feast!

LB

[No Zanax]

Hello all! Long time member and lurker here and I am planning my debauchery tour to Peru soon. Me 27, fluent in spanish with trips completed to Dominican R. Costa Rica, and lived in Mexico for a year. What are you paying for airfare? I'm flying out of SDF Louisville, KY, but not opposed to flying to Chicago or other places for cheaper fare. Cheapest I have found is $850 for the beginning of Feb. That to me is ricockulous! I can fly almost anywhere in the world for that money. Any tips or suggestions?

Thanks in advance!

Shortbuss23, the best advise I can offer is to check LAN.com. They have had the least expensive flights to Peru that I have found- but its just not that inexpensive, unfortunately. My airfare in December was about $900, LA to Lima. I'm coming again in February, and the exact same flight is costing me $650. There was a deal direct from Miami for about $500, but the prices change pretty regularly.
Just keep searching, the prices for flights start going up once you get within a 2 week window. And your best bet is to keep checking the actual airline websites- Delta, AA, LAN, etc. They almost always have as good a price or better than the big three travel brokers(Orbits, Expedia, Travelocity).

Regards
No Z

[The Guy]

I had a good time in Lima recently and visited Banos Turcos behind Interbank Building. Well run place, mostly attractive girls in the 5-9 range. Had a good hour session and enjoyed having her take care of me. Cost was reasonable at S80 for the house and S50 for the girl. I thought S50 was a decent tip (she said she does about 5 men per day, so it would come out to S250. But she pressured me to tip more, even though there was no full service.

Visited Banos Turcos at Hotel Bruce. Vastly inferior and would not go back.

Otherwise, I had much better luck just meeting girls on the street.

[Royal21]

Mr Enternational:

Your post was awesome. I was laughing all over imagining a Turban hunt in Mumbai. Let me know next time you are in India, I will point you better. (Also you can surely buy turbans in Toronto or NYC suburbs or other Sikh populated areas.) But tying it up is a 30 minute affair.

If your indian american friend likes Lima then I take it that Lima has a cosmopolitan outlook also, as Rio does.

Thanks for the insight, man.
R21

Dammit man. I went all over Mumbai trying to find one of those turbans. Late at night my Sikh taxi driver told me they sell them at the market. So the next day I was on a quest and about 6 hours into my search someone finally told me that it's something that is learned to make at home. So I finally just ended up buying a prefab dress hat at Eliperi.

But as far as Lima, I would say if you survived in Rio you should be okay in Lima. I have an Indian/American friend who swears by Lima. We argue Lima vs. Rio all the time. Just remember to keep the card of your hotel in your pocket so you can just show it to the taxi driver if you venture out of Miraflores. I will be there from the 29th to 31st of this month.

[Lima Busy]

Hello all! Long time member and lurker here and I am planning my debauchery tour to Peru soon. Me 27, fluent in spanish with trips completed to Dominican R. Costa Rica, and lived in Mexico for a year. What are you paying for airfare? I'm flying out of SDF Louisville, KY, but not opposed to flying to Chicago or other places for cheaper fare. Cheapest I have found is $850 for the beginning of Feb. That to me is ricockulous! I can fly almost anywhere in the world for that money. Any tips or suggestions?

Thanks in advance!

Last month most guys were paying $1100-$1300 Hou or Ewr -Lim and about $600.00 or so Mia-Lim. I suggest you fly to Miami on a discount carrier and then come down.

LB

[Shortbuss23]

Hello all! Long time member and lurker here and I am planning my debauchery tour to Peru soon. Me 27, fluent in spanish with trips completed to Dominican R. Costa Rica, and lived in Mexico for a year. What are you paying for airfare? I'm flying out of SDF Louisville, KY, but not opposed to flying to Chicago or other places for cheaper fare. Cheapest I have found is $850 for the beginning of Feb. That to me is ricockulous! I can fly almost anywhere in the world for that money. Any tips or suggestions?

Thanks in advance!

[Tiofio]

You can also go to embassy with all documents they ask you, but always they invent one excuse to avoid you the visa. Cause the employees of embassy gain a lot selling visas to criminals and recomended people so they don't want never give you a visa if you are not one of the payng recomended people.

So if you have not good concact and good green bucks don't try to ask a visa it's only to lose time and maybe some money, for the transport untill the embassy.

Chao

[Tbird]

Here is a list of countries whose nationals do NOT require a visa to enter Spain.

Lista común de terceros países a cuyos nacionales no se exige visado en los Estados miembros
sujetos al Reglamento (CE) n.o 539/2001, modificado por el Reglamento (CE) n.o 2414/2001 y por el
Reglamento (CE) n.o 453/2003.


ANDORRA ARGENTINA AUSTRALIA
BOLIVIA BRASIL BRUNEI DARUSSALAM
BULGARIA CANADÁ CHILE
CHIPRE COREA DEL SUR COSTA RICA
CROACIA EL SALVADOR ESLOVAQUIA
ESLOVENIA ESTADOS UNIDOS ESTONIA
GUATEMALA HONDURAS HUNGRÍA
ISRAEL JAPÓN LETONIA
LITUANIA MALASIA MALTA
MÉXICO MÓNACO NICARAGUA
NUEVA ZELANDA PANAMÁ PARAGUAY
POLONIA REPÚBLICA CHECA RUMANIA
SAN MARINO SANTA SEDE SINGAPUR
URUGUAY VENEZUELA

Región Administrativa Especial de HONG-KONG (República Popular de China)

Región Administrativa Especial de MACAO (República Popular de China)


Frankly, I will be amazed if they do not crack down on this and require visas from residents of even poorer countries, like Bolivia and Nicaragua.

[Tbird]

All the girls want to go to Miami and they would always ask me if I was from Miami. When I said "no", I could see the disappointment in their faces. After awhile, my standard answer was "Sí, soy de Miami." Their faces would light up.

From my understanding, Spain is the prime destination for those who want to escape Latin America since getting a US visa is so difficult. I read a recent article that the EU is concerned about the influx of poor, unskilled immigrants from Latin America and they may impose a visa requirement before arrival. With the possibility that entry into Spain and the rest of Europe might be shut down or more difficult, the migration there has increased.

I went straight to the source and checked on the Spanish Enbassy's web site. Here is a list of countries whose nationals DO already require a visa:

Lista común de terceros países a cuyos nacionales se exige visado en los Estados
miembros sujetos al Reglamento (CE) n.o 539/2001, modificado por el Reglamento
(CE) n.o 2414/2001 y por el Reglamento (CE) n.o 453/2003.

AFGANISTÁN ALBANIA ANGOLA
ANTIGUA Y BARBUDA ARABIA SAUDÍ ARGELIA
ARMENIA AZERBAIYÁN BAHAMAS
BAHRAIN BANGLADESH BARBADOS
BELARÚS BELICE BENIN
BHUTÁN BIRMANIA/MYANMAR BOSNIA HERZEGOVINA
BOTSWANA BURKINA FASO BURUNDI
CABO VERDE CAMBOYA CAMERÚN
CHAD CHINA COLOMBIA
COMORAS CONGO COREA NORTE
COSTA DE MARFIL CUBA DJIBOUTI
DOMINICA ECUADOR EGIPTO
EMIRATOS ARABES UNIDOS ERITREA ETIOPÍA
EX. REP. YUG. DE MACEDONIA FILIPINAS FIJI
GABÓN GAMBIA GEORGIA
GHANA GRANADA GUINEA
GUINEA BISSAU GUINEA ECUATORIAL GUYANA
HAITÍ INDIA INDONESIA
IRÁN IRAQ JAMAICA
JORDANIA KAZAJSTÁN KENIA
KIRGUISTÁN KIRIBATI KUWAIT
LAOS LESOTO LÍBANO
LIBERIA LIBIA MADAGASCAR
MALAWI MALDIVAS MALI
MARIANAS DEL NORTE (ISLAS) MARRUECOS MARSHALL (ISLAS)
MAURICIO MAURITANIA MICRONESIA
MOLDOVA MONGOLIA MOZAMBIQUE
NAMIBIA NAURU NEPAL
NÍGER NIGERIA OMÁN
PAKISTÁN PALAU PAPUA N. GUINEA
PERÚ QATAR REP. CENTROAFRICANA
REPÚBLICA DEM. DEL CONGO REPÚBLICA DOMINICANA RUSIA
RWANDA SALOMÓN (ISLAS) SAMOA
SAN VICENTE Y GRANADINAS SAN CRISTÓBAL Y NIEVES SANTA LUCÍA
SANTO TOMÉ Y PRÍNCIPE SENEGAL SERBIA Y MONTENEGRO
SEYCHELLES SIERRA LEONA SIRIA
SOMALIA SRI LANKA SUDÁFRICA
SUDÁN SURINAME SWAZILANDIA
TAILANDIA TAIWÁN (1) TANZANIA
TAYIKISTÁN TIMOR ORIENTAL TOGO
TONGA TRINIDAD Y TOBAGO TÚNEZ
TURKMENISTÁN TURQUÍA TUVALU
UCRANIA UGANDA UZBEKISTÁN
VANUATU VIET NAM YEMEN
ZAMBIA ZIMBABWE AUTORIDAD PALESTINA(1)



Sorry for the long list but AFAIK Peruanas cannot just jump on the plane and go to Madrid. They ALREADY need a Visa.

[Yujin]

US was the most popular greener pasture, followed by Spain.

All the girls want to go to Miami and they would always ask me if I was from Miami. When I said "no", I could see the disappointment in their faces. After awhile, my standard answer was "Sí, soy de Miami." Their faces would light up.

From my understanding, Spain is the prime destination for those who want to escape Latin America since getting a US visa is so difficult. I read a recent article that the EU is concerned about the influx of poor, unskilled immigrants from Latin America and they may impose a visa requirement before arrival. With the possibility that entry into Spain and the rest of Europe might be shut down or more difficult, the migration there has increased.

[Maltrufio]

...is everyone all ready to get out of lima for greener pastures elsewhere or they are proud to be peruvians?

Earlier this week El Comercio ran the emigration stats, including destination countries. According to them, the number of peruvians fleeing the country for greener pastures has quintupled over the last decade. US was the most popular greener pasture, followed by Spain.

The only thing that the article didn't make clear was who were these people. Were they rich and fled with their money or are they now working as bus boys and waiters at all night diners? No idea.

[Elberto]

All NFL games can be seen live at "The Corner" which is the bar described by Aurab(hey buddy)! Also the Super Bowl can be watched there and at the "Old Pub" on Pizza street. More than likely it will be on at every TGIF,Chili's,Hooter's,etc in the lima districts.
LB

Gracias.

My little head got the better of me when it came time to make the reservations. It's been over 6 months since Panama City so I'm jonesing something terrible for my next Latina fix.

[Tbird]

2. How is the nationalistic feeling there? is everyone all ready to get out of lima for greener pastures elsewhere or they are proud to be peruvians?

3. Culturally, how is the relation between a man and a woman? That is - A typical city girl in her 20s, does she usually look forward to pleasing her man or do they get so much attention by men that they expect men to take care of their every whim and wish?
(Please assume a average middle class peruvian woman and man from the same background)

4. Outside of tourism / mongering is the country a common business destination? ( if so, niche businesses or major industries)

5. How big a role does money play, in an average person's life? That is, would people usually work overtime for a few extra bucks or would they prefer spending time with families and friends?

Once again people, thanks for all the insight .

R21

I would say that Peruanas are quite typical Latinas, and do not view sex as as a weapon to manipulate the guy, like gringas. First of all, because they guy can easily get it somewhere else, this is not sex prison, Corporate States of America. Second, like typical Latinas, they are hot, and like to do it, especially if you do it right ( a lot of local guys will not).

I think overall they are proud to be Peruvians, just like Colombians are proud to be Colombian, and Argentines are proud...(hey, they sell a shirt in BA saying " no solamente soy perfecto...soy Argentino!")...but pride alone does not pay the bills; I think quite a few would be interested in greener pastures.


My dos centavos, no more....

[Aurab]

Elberto:

I went to this bar on Larco in November. They were showing football. I am not sure it was live or not. The loation of the bar: if you walk towards the bay on Av. Larco, it is one or two blocks from the intersection of Larco and San Martin on Larco. It would be on your lefthand side of Larco. Sorry I forgot the name of the bar. You can check it out.

Aurab

[Zing23]

Assumptions:
1. I did pretty good in Rio with only English. Assuming I will be Ok in Lima. I did Ok in Dominican Republic also.
2. Country is generally stable and that crime is not a highlight of the society. (I take the necessary precautions and know that its not my country)
3. If Rio looked Ok to me, expense wise, Lima should be similar (hotels, women, food ...)
4. Outside of women, there are enough things to do in Lima to have a good 10-12 day holiday.
5. There are places open till 2-3 AM. it looks like Mira Flores is the main area where most mongers prefer staying and if i like getting up at 10:30-11:00 AM and sleeping at 3-4:00 AM, I will have options.
6. I love walking. If I take a place in Mira Flores, I am assuming that I can walk to the hang out places instead of going point to point in cab all the time. I love staying in the middle of shopping areas, so that i can do window shoping by the day and walk to restaurants / clubs / bars at the night. (Comparision - staying in copacabana and walking to Help at night)

Lima is a big, poor south american city, like Rio or Bogota, so crime is an issue. In Miraflores and San Ysidro a lot of security people keep it reasonable safe, but I think that caution is in order even in these areas. More dangerous than NY.

I walked all over Miraflores, into residential areas, down to the mall on the waterfront, etc. Don't get a hotel too far from Parque Kennedy if you want to walk, as that is where most of the restaurants/bars/clubs are centered. I do not think there is a sauna/casa (banos turcos) within walking distance (these are places where you get sauna and a girl during the day). at night i would be a bit more cautious - stick to areas with people.

I studied spanish before going, which i thought helped a bit. however, in miraflores, many people spoke some english.

Lots of things to do in lima - I liked the city a lot.

-zing