Lima

[DownUnderMonger]

Thanks for that JJ.

I'll check out which one has the best other attractions (like Thermal Baths etc) and decide from there.

The choice is yours. I'm sorry I cannot be more helpful.

[Jack Jericho]

Hi JJ and anyone else who have been there -.

I'm planning my next trip and actually want to try one high altitude city. I've actually never been to one (I ironically have been to Peru close to 10 times and have never been to Machu Pichu LOL).

I'm wanting to try one and see how my body reacts before I go exploring Bogota, Quito and Mexico City on future trips, although I should be fine in Medellin.

Which city out of Cajamarca and Huaraz should I add to my North Coast trip?

Cheaper to spend S/ 100 on a return bus from Chimbote or Chiclayo and cheap accommodation with no commitment than waste a thousand dollars on flights and accommodation to spend a week sick (going to Bogota/Quito/Mexico City).

Regarding altitude, Huaraz is 10,010 feet high and Cajamarca is 9,020 feet high (As a reference, Bogota is 8,630 ft. Quito is 9,350 ft. Mexico is 8,380 ft.

Huaraz has a chongo called "Vichay NC" (20 soles if my info is right). I've never been there, every time I've been in Huaraz I've been as a tourist and with the family, but Huaraz is a well visited touristic destination in winter (US Summer) so it should be at least an average chongo.

Cajamarca has a chongo called "El Polvorin" and another one called "Las Cucardas", five years ago they were not great but not bad either and relatively expensive for a chongo out of Lima (25-30 soles); however, after the end of the "gold fever" Cajamarca's economy has gone down a lot, so I wouldn't expect too much. Girls go where the money is.

The choice is yours. I'm sorry I cannot be more helpful.

J. J.

[MtVadose]

PSA. I am in Lima now, take the suggestions below and exchange dollars. ATMs are a huge pain in the ass with low limits and high fees.

I arrive to Lima on Sunday, I rely on ATMs so did a search and apparently Banco de la Nación (multiRed) has no fees but 400 soles limit.

[DownUnderMonger]

Hi JJ and anyone else who have been there -.

I'm planning my next trip and actually want to try one high altitude city. I've actually never been to one (I ironically have been to Peru close to 10 times and have never been to Machu Pichu LOL).

I'm wanting to try one and see how my body reacts before I go exploring Bogota, Quito and Mexico City on future trips, although I should be fine in Medellin.

Which city out of Cajamarca and Huaraz should I add to my North Coast trip?

Cheaper to spend S/ 100 on a return bus from Chimbote or Chiclayo and cheap accommodation with no commitment than waste a thousand dollars on flights and accommodation to spend a week sick (going to Bogota/Quito/Mexico City).

There are good chongos in Cuzco, Puno, Cajamarca and Huancayo too, but those are high altitude cities (a hard call for your hearth and your lungs to enjoy a chongo at an altitude of 9,000 feet or higher), and their chongos are not as good as the ones in Trujillo, Chiclayo or Tacna.

J. J.

[Slick Rich33]

Davidschmauch!

I'm glad you liked Las Sirenitas! There is a lot of hotties there. This shocked me too! When I come back, I will revisit Las Sirenitas again! I would like to bang more Venezuelans chicas! It doesn't look like there are many hotel options in LOS Olivos. More so hostels there. I prefer hotels / apartments over hostels. But, I think my next visit, I will rent a hostel in Los Olivos for at least 2 days. So that way, I won't have to deal with traffic.

Also, I would like to visit Anaconda in the late night hours. I know that there will be more chicas there.

P.S. Los Olivos is shady looking. So, you need to be careful!

[Chaviqueso1]

I enjoyed all those Venezuelan girls last year, beautiful, passionate and incredible.

Heading to Lima in a few weeks. Antonio, where did you find your Venezuelan beauties? Through the ads or on the streets? (Been eyeing how the pictures of Keisi you posted last year!

[Slick Rich33]

Troca / Botecio is the place for BBBJ / BBFS.

I have found the rule to be if there is a guy out front searching you and taking away your phone, they're not doing raw. Like an attitude thing, like they work at a better brothel and don't offer such things LOL.

How easy is it to get BBFS in Colombia?

BBBJ can definitely be had at the Troc. You must be able to speak some Spanish to negotiate. You can get a BBBJ from a hottie if you speak Spanish and take your time to talk to different ladies. Don't be impatient like me and get a BBBJ from the oldest hoe in the Troc! I still regret this! Yuck! For some of the younger hotties I offered as much of 80 soles and was turned down! But, with the old hag, she did it for 60 soles. But, it was a lazy BJ!

[Slick Rich33]

Be more worried about the mosquitoes and the water. Most mid-price to high-price hotels in Iquitos and Pucallpa have air conditioning. In fact, as posted

As for Ecuador, I'm sorry but I have no idea. I've only been there once for a few days as a fishmeal expert consultant. But I was taken from the airport to an isolated beach hotel near Posorja (a minuscule fishermen's town close to Salinas) and was driven every day from my hotel to the fish meal plant and back. So I really didn't have the chance to explore. All I know about Ecuadorian girls is that they are, ethnically, very similar to Peruvians, that there used to be lots and lots of them in Las Cucardas and El Trocadero where they have been more recently displaced by the Venezuelans.

J. J.

I haven't been to Ecuador in over a decade. Amazing how time flies! It's probably hasn't changed much. When I was there, there was Chongos all over Ecuador! In Quito you definitely should check out Casa Roja close to the airport. And another call 3 star bar. In Ecuador I got got my first tag team (2 girls on one) in a chongo on the out skirts on Quito for 16 bucks!

The girls in Casa Roja were 20 bucks a pop. Also they have a restaurant on the upper floor.

[DavidSchmauch]

Troca / Botecio is the place for BBBJ / BBFS.

I have found the rule to be if there is a guy out front searching you and taking away your phone, they're not doing raw. Like an attitude thing, like they work at a better brothel and don't offer such things LOL.

How easy is it to get BBFS in Colombia?

I might not go back to Lima at this time but will keep that in mind for the next timeI visit.

In Colombia, (in Rosquillas for example) some girls offer BBB and Anal for an extra fee right away, not all of them though, so for example girl in Rosquillas in Chapinero Bogota is about $10 bucks and asks (I think I might be wrong because I was there two years ago) about an extra 20 bucks for extras.

[DownUnderMonger]

Troca / Botecio is the place for BBBJ / BBFS.

I have found the rule to be if there is a guy out front searching you and taking away your phone, they're not doing raw. Like an attitude thing, like they work at a better brothel and don't offer such things LOL.

How easy is it to get BBFS in Colombia?

they don't even offer BBB or raw like in Colombia

[DavidSchmauch]

I was in Lima for the first time and stayed there for three days and got it all mapped out pretty well for what I needed during those three days. First of all, I did not stay in Mraflores but in a hostel on Plaza San Martin, it's called Orchid Hostel and is located on 959 Jiron Carabaya which in in a Lima District near the Centro. No complains, I was in a 6 bed dorms and only one night there was another person in the room with me, all the other nights I had the whole room for myself. People say it may be a bit dangerous in that area, honestly, I walked all days and nights, I was in Centro at midnight on two different nights and no-one bothered me. Lima seems to be very calm city except for traffic, they all beep those horns all the time and it's annoying. Second, money exchange, I was getting 3. 37 at all money exchange places in Plaza San Martin and that's probably what it is. Food, very disappointing, I was looking for a Peruvian restaurants after being told that Lima is a Culinary capitol of Latin America and there was none, two chevicherias, some Soup restaurants, one Swiss and one German restaurant and many 'hole in the wall' kind of places that I did not want to visit. But who cares about food, there is always Starbucs or McDonnalds that can do the trick.

Girls, I was lucky to find it the second day after google maps sent me to a different neighborhood when I typed 'Las Cucardas" and was walking through ghettos after 10 pm. I found it the next morning and it was OK I would Say, I really compare everything down there in South America to Medellin's "Casa New Life' or Bogotas "Rosquillas" and Las Cucardas has a pretty good roster of girls but too expensive, 30 Soles to get in and then 80 for the girl, and they don't even offer BBB or raw like in Colombia, like I said Peruvians and Ecuadorians are very laid back. There was literally 70% of girls from Equador, and they are fine. Las Cucardas is in a heavy industrial neighborhood and can scare westerners but hey, it's ok, they know what you are there for and no-one will bother you. The next day (yesterday) I took a bus to LOS Olivos to see what "Las Sirenitas" was all about and was pleasantly surprised to find out it is actually very comparable to Colombian brothels of Bogota and Medellin. I had a native looking girl, she said she was Ecuadorian, like most of them, with nice, hard boobs and standard Latina butt. It was a hard choice, there was at least ten very good looking chicas, 10 sol to get in and 40 for the girl, so at $15 a pop, it's definitely worth a visit. It opens late, 4 pm, even though when you google it it says 9 am. Here is the best way to get there to LOS Olivos; I don't suggest tax because of very bad traffic but bus, there is a central bus station around Avenida 28 Julio and those buses run on two dedicated lines and are not affected by traffic, it took me about 30 to 40 minutes to the last stop in Independence / Los Olivos and it takes 5 to 10 minutes easy walk to Las Sirenitas. Hope this helps, let us know how you did. Good luck and enjoy Lima.

[RMundi000]

PSA. I am in Lima now, take the suggestions below and exchange dollars. ATMs are a huge pain in the ass with low limits and high fees.

[Jack Jericho]

Thanks for the information JJ.

One thing I'm worried about the Selva is the heat, and the lack of creature comforts. I couldn't find any baos turcos or anything else exciting. Guessing it would be hard to get things to a place with no roads. Saw a few reviews about small chongos in Iquitos but nothing bigger than 24 rooms.

Have you been to Ecuador? Is the chongo system the same up there? Calle 18 sounds like an interesting place, the Ecuador forum is just dead though.

Be more worried about the mosquitoes and the water. Most mid-price to high-price hotels in Iquitos and Pucallpa have air conditioning. In fact, as posted by Sly One in the Iquitos thread (http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...=1#post1990756), the main requirement for picking a hotel is air conditioning and a swimming pool.

I don't know of any sauna there but, then, I've only traveled to the selva as a tourist and with my wife, so I didn't really have the chance to look for it. In any case, it would surprise me to find a sauna in Iquitos, when just staying out of the air conditioning will have you sweating like a horse faster than any steam room ha ha ha. Actually, just before writing this, I checked on Google "sauna iquitos", "spa masajes iquitos", "sauna pucallpa", "spa masajes pucallpa". And got quite some hits. Although I really don't have any other intel about those places.

However, and this cannot be repeated enough, do carry gallons of mosquito repellent and be extremely careful with local water.

As for Ecuador, I'm sorry but I have no idea. I've only been there once for a few days as a fishmeal expert consultant. But I was taken from the airport to an isolated beach hotel near Posorja (a minuscule fishermen's town close to Salinas) and was driven every day from my hotel to the fish meal plant and back. So I really didn't have the chance to explore. All I know about Ecuadorian girls is that they are, ethnically, very similar to Peruvians, that there used to be lots and lots of them in Las Cucardas and El Trocadero where they have been more recently displaced by the Venezuelans.

J. J.

[DownUnderMonger]

Thanks for the information JJ.

One thing I'm worried about the Selva is the heat, and the lack of creature comforts. I couldn't find any baos turcos or anything else exciting. Guessing it would be hard to get things to a place with no roads. Saw a few reviews about small chongos in Iquitos but nothing bigger than 24 rooms.

Have you been to Ecuador? Is the chongo system the same up there? Calle 18 sounds like an interesting place, the Ecuador forum is just dead though.

Regarding Pucallpa, and also Iquitos, Chachapoyas, Tarapoto Tingo Maria and all "selva" cities in general, I have no real intel, never been in a chongo there. From what I'm told there are a few, small and very low quality. The reason is because charapas (selva women) are not only very open minded regarding sex, but also really really horny so you don't really have to pay for sex; or, if you pay, you do it with a girl you met at a disco or at a bar or at a restaurant or at pretty much any public place. Of course you have to flirt a little (not too much, really) and have a liking for the charapa type and the charapa ways (I do, by the way), but charapas are generally considered the horniest women in Peru. There is a saying claiming that charapas are like tin roof plates, if you don't "nail" them well, they fly away pretty fast.

J. J.

[Jack Jericho]

Hey Downunder,

I wanted tell ya! Damn! This is some good Intel on these chongos! There are more chongos than you can shake your dick at! Wow! The next time I return, depending on how time I have, I will at least check out Pucallpa, and Chiclayo. I want check out Las Sirenitas at night. I would like sip on a couple of beers as I enjoy the strip show there. In Arequipa wow! Did not know the Chongos there were illegal! This was back in 2008 when I went there. The chongo was definitely low quality. All the locals there looking at me. I want to go to Tacna to check out Las Sirenitas and revisit Las Cucardas!

Well, there is something you all should understand about prostitution in Peru. Prostitution is legal but proxenetism is not, and the law defines proxenetism as "to benefit from the sexual commerce of third party persons", and that allows for a very wide field of interpretation. In principle, anyone opening a chongo is "benefiting from the sexual commerce of third party persons" so. How can be legal prostitution exercised? This is how: A chongo is a local business and, as all and any business that is open to the public, they need an "operating license" issued by the local government (municipalidad). All legal chongos have a valid license for which they pay the local government a yearly fee and are controlled by the public health authorities.

Now, the people (and their authorities) in the northern half of the Peruvian coast are way more open minded, when it comes to prostitution, than the people of the southern coast. And the Arequipenos are the less open minded off them all. Tacna is a notorious exception and I think it is because of its proximity to Arica (Chile) where prostitution is prohibited. So that is why there are no legal chongos in Arequipa, the local authorities simply refuse to issue the operating license. The chongos you find there are small illegal joints with no sanitary control of any kind because, obviously, nobody is going to invest any money in a business that can be closed at any moment and survives only by bribing the authorities.

Regarding Pucallpa, and also Iquitos, Chachapoyas, Tarapoto Tingo Maria and all "selva" cities in general, I have no real intel, never been in a chongo there. From what I'm told there are a few, small and very low quality. The reason is because charapas (selva women) are not only very open minded regarding sex, but also really really horny so you don't really have to pay for sex; or, if you pay, you do it with a girl you met at a disco or at a bar or at a restaurant or at pretty much any public place. Of course you have to flirt a little (not too much, really) and have a liking for the charapa type and the charapa ways (I do, by the way), but charapas are generally considered the horniest women in Peru. There is a saying claiming that charapas are like tin roof plates, if you don't "nail" them well, they fly away pretty fast.

J. J.