Lima

[Member #4351]

So what's the "up to you "scene look like these days being you're on the ground there. What are the good alternatives to bothering you for hook-ups?

It all depends on what you like. You can be a bottom feeder budget monger like DownUnderMonger and travel around looking for cheap chongos. You can also go to the other extreme and visit a nightclub such as Emmanuel, Moonlight or Club 69. There are plenty of full service MPs around but its always a good idea to read what the locals have to say about them on perutops.com. For budget mongering I prefer the Troc. For mid-priced alternatives (around 200 soles) I go for students I know and their friends. I stay away from high priced hardcore pros in nightclubs and TR.

[DownUnderMonger]

I have always suggested that forum members try the different mongering alternatives available in Lima. Since I don't get any personal benefit from helping guys who are visiting here, I could care less if they spend their time looking for chongos or going to MPs. Like they say in LOS: "Up to you".

It's nice to note that in the future DownUnderMonger will be concentrating his mongering in the UK and posting on that thread.

There is no point of posting about mongering in the UK on the UK board for several reasons.

UK punting is 99% conducted on the aw site. Everyone on the UK board knows this, as anyone who does a simply cursory search on the internet on the topic. It is totally in English so no hard yards need to be done. I don't use massage palours, agencies or street girls there so no locally specific knowledge would be imparted. If I did post my experiences on the UK board I would consider as it would be as interesting to read for me as the posts thanking David (IMO not at all). I don't like posting about or reading about what exactly happens what happens behind closed doors, the fact that it was good and as specified / agreed is good enough for me.

Different types of girls are a matter of personal taste, however the different methodologies and locations of obtaining them are of utmost importance. This is something to be shared in Peru, but pretty much pointless in the UK (such as describing abodes of individual ladies) or exactly the same way of initially contacting each of them (all aw). While there may be a key dependency there, being the internet and all, someone will either start another similar website, or people will just migrate to another one with a weaker search functionality. As aw is just facilitating a direct connection between the girls and the punters the most popular site of the day will always prevail as the medium for contact. There is no need to find/contact/organise/translate for the girls by third parties as there is in Peru.

My whole goal here is trying to encourage people to go out and go on adventures in Peru and report on them and inject life into this thread.

[Rjsss212]

I have always suggested that forum members try the different mongering alternatives available in Lima. Since I don't get any personal benefit from helping guys who are visiting here, I could care less if they spend their time looking for chongos or going to MPs. Like they say in LOS: "Up to you".

So what's the "up to you "scene look like these days being you're on the ground there. What are the good alternatives to bothering you for hook-ups?

[Member #4351]

I have always suggested that forum members try the different mongering alternatives available in Lima. Since I don't get any personal benefit from helping guys who are visiting here, I could care less if they spend their time looking for chongos or going to MPs. Like they say in LOS: "Up to you".

It's nice to note that in the future DownUnderMonger will be concentrating his mongering in the UK and posting on that thread.

[DownUnderMonger]

I've tried the adventuring part, in Peru and other places, and frankly I would just as soon skip the chongos, tequila rocks, Pizza Alley, Mundo Anuncio, etc. Because you get burned more often than not and spend a whole lot of time being frustrated.

That's part of the reason I started going to the UK though. On my last trip of 9 weeks, I saw a good 30 (different) girls. 29 hits. 1 miss. Peru can't keep me interested any more for that length of time nor compete on that level of success.

[DownUnderMonger]

It's what makes the choice of Lima work for me. And yes, I realize the dependency on a "key man", and no I don't have a backup plan except to fret about how much more difficult my vacations would be if David weren't there. But that, to me, is simply in the category of I'll deal with it if / when it happens. It will probably mean I'll go somewhere else than Peru.

But that's exactly what I'm saying. Will most of the members disappear then?

[Member #4250]

Lima without The Man Mr D?

The other day, after getting some fun Christmas stuff at Mesa Rotunda, a to-die-for Peruvian buffet at El Estadio, some clothes for me and others at Gammara, I popped in for a pedicure (¾ hour for $6 USD). Cute young thing, chatted her up. Said I needed a massage after such a hard day, but in my hotel 'cause I hate walking back after a relaxing massage. Turns out she is a trained in massage. Worked out the details, she showed up later. Started with a little wine, a little shoulder rub for her, and before knowing it we were hard at it. Classic Peruvian body, curvy ass and young tits. Really, though, the best word for her would be 'fresh'. Though not unknowing. She pushed my hand down and two fingers in. What was great was that she used her two fingers to tap on her inner thigh to indicate the rhythm and locations she wanted, all the while moaning, eventually arching up in a spasm. She then got to work on me, oral, positions, but when I told her I was ready, she desperately screamed 'no, no not yet', she needed just a bit more time for her third orgasm.

After relaxing, she told me to turn over on the bed and gave me a very professional full body massage. Heaven. We chatted and I asked if she had thought we might have sex when she first came over and, with a bit of a shocked expression, said 'no'. So what happened? I asked. 'Well when you started massaging me and touching me and you brushed my breasts, I got excited. It was nice. '

After, I gave her some money, way more than a massage would normally cost, and she said 'This is for the massage, right? '. Yup. I asked if a repeat another day was possible, certainly yes she said. But when next day came, I called and / or txt her several times, no answer. Apparently sober second thought, she is not that kind of girl.

[Member #4359]

The reason I fell in love with Peru was because of the forums.

RT Gooch and his Peru guides and trip reports got me hooked. Made me want more, reading Nibu, Tung and a whole bunch of others made me want to know more and digest everything I could about it.

Well DownUnder,

I understand where you are coming from even if I don't fully agree. RT Gooch was instrumental in my discovery of Lima too, and I got to meet him on one of my visits and he is a treasure mine of information on restaurants and other stuff besides chicas. However, I do come to Lima primarily for the women. Since I live in what I've seen accurately described as sex prison USA, after a few months of the great barren sex desert I'm quite ready to go somewhere and just enjoy the wonderful charms of the opposite sex. I see you are in your mid-thirties so I'm about 15 years older, and I really don't want to have to chase them. David is the reason I keep coming back to Lima. I've tried the adventuring part, in Peru and other places, and frankly I would just as soon skip the chongos, tequila rocks, Pizza Alley, Mundo Anuncio, etc. Because you get burned more often than not and spend a whole lot of time being frustrated. Why not simply call up a person who has consistently demonstrated over several years his willingness to help and expertise, and receive quality results every time?

Yes I think it would be good if more of us posted trip reports and covered details other than David's assistance, but at the same time the very best advice I can think of to give anyone coming to Lima for their first time is to contact David. How could I leave that out? It's what makes the choice of Lima work for me. And yes, I realize the dependency on a "key man", and no I don't have a backup plan except to fret about how much more difficult my vacations would be if David weren't there. But that, to me, is simply in the category of I'll deal with it if / when it happens. It will probably mean I'll go somewhere else than Peru. In the meantime I'll enjoy it that he is there.

For you and others who want more adventurous reports, well, post some! I'll try to do the same after my next visit (I realize I'm about 95% lurker and will try to change that). There are other forums for Peru but I'm not sure of the propriety of naming them here (they are sort of a competition to this forum). RT Gooch moderates on one, and it includes a lot of information not in these forums. But all forums are dependent upon the members. They are what the members make them.

[DownUnderMonger]

I apologise for my negativity I'm probably just jaded with the quality of posts about Peru in the last few years.

The reason I fell in love with Peru was because of the forums.

RT Gooch and his Peru guides and trip reports got me hooked. Made me want more, reading Nibu, Tung and a whole bunch of others made me want to know more and digest everything I could about it.

I learnt basic (now intermediate) spanish and went on my way, exploring everywhere I read about. From the depths of troco, to random chongos in small towns in the pacific coast (I don't read too many people these days go. Fuck it lets do a road trip to all the chongos from here to Chimbote. One of my favourite chongos is in Huaral as well as Chiclayo). Even wondered the streets of La Victoria looking for the fabled San Jose.

Back in the day Tung and Nibu did that shit all the time and I loved reading about it. Small towns, Jungles, you name it they did it. I still haven't made it to Ecuador though but their adventures were something to read about.

These days it seems like its too much fucking effort for the new forum members. Jump a cheap plane in Miami and hang out in Miraflores for a week and don't go anywhere else. I reckon Lince would be an effort for these people let alone Callao. You can call an escort service anywhere in the world, why Lima? I came to Peru looking for a fucking adventure, and fuck I got it.

Maybe I'm looking for something or someone to reignite that sense of adventure for Peru, guess I'm looking in the wrong place.

[Pelon74]

Totally disagree with you, if you read the other posts on this site and the local ones Peru is becoming very depressing, it is becoming too expensive and inundated with hard core colombians. Having a local contact is fundamental to have success in a country like Peru and having David is a blessing. In life nothing is for sure, not even if I will be alive for my next trip but I'm soo relieved to see many people are appreciative to David and that he at least is an option.

Like I said before the mongering hobby is becoming more difficult all over and to be successful not only you need to do research but have local contacts that can assist. Lets keep it positive. To much negativity in the world as it is.

It's not harsh.

Read the rest of your posts, or posts of other people that see David. Just thanks David. No reports of other venues, attempts etc, just like your posts. It's like you got off the plane, called David, saw his girls, and left. There's dozens of them, thats literally how they go. I get off the plane, check into my hotel, call David, see a bunch of his chicks and leave. Absolutely nothing else. You didn't say you liked the food, nor liked the weather in your posts, or other experiences. Don't get me wrong I like Lima too, I've hammered the fuck out of it. But I want to read about other shit that happens in Lima.

I'd like to read more reports of thanks David "but then on other nights I tried something else". I did something else. Those that post 100% David (with nothing else) do sound like shills, whether they mean to or not. I don't want to get into whether he makes money or gets anything out of it or not. But those reports are just plain boring. They add nothing to the discussion. It's post TRIP report, not post I called DAVID report.

[Gumbie]

It's not harsh.

Read the rest of your posts, or posts of other people that see David. Just thanks David. No reports of other venues, attempts etc, just like your posts. It's like you got off the plane, called David, saw his girls, and left. There's dozens of them, thats literally how they go. I get off the plane, check into my hotel, call David, see a bunch of his chicks and leave. Absolutely nothing else. You didn't say you liked the food, nor liked the weather in your posts, or other experiences. Don't get me wrong I like Lima too, I've hammered the fuck out of it. But I want to read about other shit that happens in Lima.

I'd like to read more reports of thanks David "but then on other nights I tried something else". I did something else. Those that post 100% David (with nothing else) do sound like shills, whether they mean to or not. I don't want to get into whether he makes money or gets anything out of it or not. But those reports are just plain boring. They add nothing to the discussion. It's post TRIP report, not post I called DAVID report.

Go to the Larco Museum. The traditional fabrics, earrings, gold jewelry, artifacts, headdress, nose rings, battle gear, pottery, burial fabrics, religious gear are all gorgeous. Very well displayed and lighted. The exhibits have captions in 4 languages. Better than anything in NY on Inca / Peruvian culture. Admission is extremely low for a top museum of this quality. Over 20, 000 original pieces of pottery. There is a cloth fabric displayed there that has is second in the world for the most threads per square inch. Incredible. There are ropes in a fan display with little knots on each strand. This was actually a original census recording from 100's of years ago. The strands denote the area of the city. The knots denote how many people, their ages, nationality, sex, etc. Living in each section of city. Incredible. There is an unadvertised side viewing room 1 level down from the museum in a separate building. This is an erotic museum with over 300 pieces of original pottery showing everyday sex scenes. These were very common at one time. The Spanish destroyed most of them. It is amazing this many survived. You will see oral, anal, animal, and gay artifacts. Even double penetration. This culture was very relaxed about sex. They considered it natural and was not up-tight about any of it. The erotic museum is proof of their very open and modern attitude about sex a millennium before their time. Stunning discovery.

[Gumbie]

It's not harsh.

Read the rest of your posts, or posts of other people that see David. Just thanks David. No reports of other venues, attempts etc, just like your posts. It's like you got off the plane, called David, saw his girls, and left. There's dozens of them, thats literally how they go. I get off the plane, check into my hotel, call David, see a bunch of chicks and leave. Absolutely nothing else. You didn't say you liked the food, nor liked the weather in your posts, or other experiences. Don't get me wrong I like Lima too, I've hammered the fuck out of it. But I want to read about other shit that happens in Lima.

I'd like to read more reports of thanks David "but then on other nights I tried something else". I did something else. Those that post 100% David (with nothing else) do sound like shills, whether they mean to or not. I don't want to get into whether he makes money or gets anything out of it or not. But those reports are just plain boring. They add nothing to the discussion. It's post TRIP report, not post I called DAVID report.

First- I am not a shill. Let's get that straight. Don't know David. Never met David. Never spoke with him on the phone. Still he delivers unselfishly. His friends say good things about him. Case closed.

Second- Here is a "trip report" for you. I recommend Blue Moon Restaurant on Pumacahua 2520 in Lince. Has over 20, 000 bottles on display. Wall to wall bottles floor to ceiling. It's a stunning display. Buffet rocks. Fresh seafood of all types. Cerviche. The anti-pasto section can compete with and tops many 5 star hotels I've stayed at. Over 50% of meats are baked, sauteed or roast. He does not load the buffet up w / cheap fried items. Many buffets keep the price down with 90% fried crap. Not him. Same family running it forever. Very attentive service. Very clean place. Mixed seafood on a clamshell was my favorite. Chocolate dessert w / nuts was addicting. Fresh baked bread while you wait. Only serves lunch. The theme is traditional Italian. Even Genoa Salami. Same Italian food you find in New York.

Best traditional Italian cuisine I found in any restaurant South America. But the buffet angle makes it extra special. They had the #2 spot in the world in the Guinness Book of records when they displayed 17, 500 bottles. Now they have pumped it up to over 20, 000 bottles, but have slipped to #3 in the world. But who is counting anyway? Highly recommended.

[Gumbie]

Srta 1 Gorgeous girl with exotic eyes. She is Peruvian with 1/4 Chinese blood. Slim with curves in all the right places. Great NATURAL rack (DD). Excellent English. Classy and super hot at the same time. Great conversationalist before, in between, and after. Bisexual. Basically she is a grand slam home run in every department. Loves to suck. Her tongue left me totally satisfied. Very good oral skills. Will make you absolutely crazy until you cry Uncle. Not a clock watcher. Spent double the time allotted. Left with the same smile she came in with. Made me feel like she had as good a time as I did. Great girl.

PS I forgot to add one thing to this post. This girl is an amazingly sensuous kisser. Maybe it is the bi influence. Girls can kiss girls even better than most guys do. She has a lot of weapons in her arsenal.

[DownUnderMonger]

It's not harsh.

Read the rest of your posts, or posts of other people that see David. Just thanks David. No reports of other venues, attempts etc, just like your posts. It's like you got off the plane, called David, saw his girls, and left. There's dozens of them, thats literally how they go. I get off the plane, check into my hotel, call David, see a bunch of his chicks and leave. Absolutely nothing else. You didn't say you liked the food, nor liked the weather in your posts, or other experiences. Don't get me wrong I like Lima too, I've hammered the fuck out of it. But I want to read about other shit that happens in Lima.

I'd like to read more reports of thanks David "but then on other nights I tried something else". I did something else. Those that post 100% David (with nothing else) do sound like shills, whether they mean to or not. I don't want to get into whether he makes money or gets anything out of it or not. But those reports are just plain boring. They add nothing to the discussion. It's post TRIP report, not post I called DAVID report.

That is a little harsh. I like Lima with or without David. I like the food. I like the weather. It's on my list of possibilities for retirement. When I go everywhere else in the world I go alone and I organize my own game. There are other options in Lima. Each can choose his own. David deserves the praise I gave him. If you don't have anything nice to say leave it alone.

[Gumbie]

Sorry to say. This does not address the skeptics.

One guy (or one escort agency / brothel etc) does not make a place. If David wasn't there, would you be happy with going alone in the sauna, chongo, casa and tr scene? What if you travelled there and he was on holidays / ill / etc and couldn't help you? In business it would this would be called key man dependency planning. Do you have a plan if your key man disappears? Or would you consider it a wasted trip? It would be like those people who abandoned Rio after Help closed down. If he moved to Guayaquil tomorrow would you all be in the Ecuador forum declaring Guayaquil the place to be?

Not being antagonistic, but trying to see your view. Do you come to Peru, and just sit in your Miraflores hotel and call David and might go out in Miraflores a few times during your trip (and do nothing else in the way of trying to organise girls yourself)? Doesn't that mean you would be happy to do that anywhere regular fucks can be organised reliability? I'm just trying to work out if you guys are really into Lima as a destination.

That is a little harsh. I like Lima with or without David. I like the food. I like the weather. It's on my list of possibilities for retirement. When I go everywhere else in the world I go alone and I organize my own game. There are other options in Lima. Each can choose his own. David deserves the praise I gave him. If you don't have anything nice to say leave it alone.