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[Doc Bill]

I will be in PDE for my first time for two days in October. Sounds like the mongering scene is minimal to nil, but I'd still like to see it. Can anybody recommend a hotel, in the US$100 range? Thanks.

[Hot To Cool]

Saint, Mur, et al,

I passed through this area on the 8th of March, but since I was pressed for time, I didn´t actually partake of the mongering scene here. However, looking at the ads in the Montevideo newspaper El Pais´s Sunday edition, there were quite a few ads for PDE.

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[LA Larry]

Hey Saint--

thanks for recon on punta.

best--

Larry

[Saint]

Hi Murilloa,

I thought if there was action it probably might be in Maldonado. It's where the normal service workers live. I toured Maldonado but I didn't really see any bad areas of the city. I'm not sure if there are any. I found the city extremely clean and the people seemed very happy. There was a tremendous amount of new constructions of residential property, commericial property and expansions of city projects.

I never even took one taxi but it was interesting that most of the taxis are Mercedes Benz's like in Switzerland. I heard they weren't too cheap. I'll probably be back in a few weeks so I'll try to check out the scene there. Thanks.

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Murilloa,

That's a nice play on words, Murilloa. There's even a third meaning if you let punta mean punter, a British term for hobbyist. You couldn't be looking forward to returning to Uruguay from Europe if there weren't no hobby scene, right?

Saint,

As I said, there is some way to relax, even in Punta. The key word is "relax."
Of course, the area near La Rambla in Montevideo is more fruitful, and it's not that far away.

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[Murilloa]

There is in fact a legendary bordello, but located not in PdE itself. It's in Maldonado, the scrappy little town inland that was there before PdE was invented. The establishment is called Nana's, and every taxista knows it. There are also a couple of lesser establishments in Maldonado. In the summer Nana's attracts not just full time pros but also Argentine hotties who look in for a night or two, in order to repair the damage that summer prices do to the wallet. An interesting scene for you to research on your next visit.
Mur

[Saint]

I just spent the past 48 hours in Punta del Este, Uruguay. Most people have never even heard of it and couldn’t tell you where it is on a map. Punta del Este is located on the Atlantic Ocean only 30 minutes by plane from Buenos Aires. I flew to Punta del Este to explore investment opportunities for myself and my clients. I am often asked about Punta del Este but I have never been there so I couldn’t intelligently answer any questions about it.

I expected a small little resort town. I was really impressed with Punta del Este. In fact, I firmly believe it may be one of the most underutilized cities in South America. I have spent the past 3 years traveling all around the world. I have been to most countries in South America, Cuba, Mexico, Canada, the Caribbean and throughout Europe.

The amount of wealth in Punta del Este is unbelievable. The majority of properties in PDE are owned by wealthy Argentineans that purchased properties here with “black money” many years ago. I traveled extensively around the city and saw several properties in various price ranges. It was amazing to see almost all of the properties empty at this time of year. Something that was amazing to see is that Punta del Este is currently only used about 2 months out of the year. January and February are the only months that are really utilized. Property owners are charging tremendous rates for rental mainly in January and also in February.

At night it was amazing to look at all the buildings with only 1 or 2 lights on. The quality of the properties were amazing. I have visited very few places in the world with as high a concentration of luxurious properties throughout the city. The apartments I visited were first class properties with amazing views. Property owners are making about 5% to 6% returns on their investment renting just January and February. I truly believe that Punta del Este can market themselves and attract tourists throughout most of the year. The city is immaculate. There is no trash in the streets. Crime appears to be almost non-existent.

The beaches were nice but the major asset of PDE isn’t the beaches. There are certainly better quality beaches in other parts of the world. Punta del Este is about a certain quality of lifestyle. It’s an upscale environment and wealth is evident throughout the city. Besides the high season of January and February, there doesn’t seem to be a lot to do here. But there are other places in South America to go to stay busy. PDE is a relaxing place you come to with your significant other. It’s a very romantic place that has all the characteristics of becoming a tremendous growth area. I believe that tourism will explode here within the next 5 years. More and more people are finding out about it. 70% of the properties are owned by Argentineans but I firmly believe that more and more foreigners will be buying property here in the next few years.

There isn’t much action in town during the off season. One night I was invited to go to a fashion show at the Conrad (owned by Hilton) which is the biggest hotel in town. It is a 300 room hotel with a casino attached. Very nice property. I guess there is a fashion show every Saturday night. The owner of the fashion show was a personal friend of the gentleman that hosted my trip to Punta del Este. Some of the models were hot.

More Americans and Europeans are finding out about this upscale environment and purchasing here. I saw several lots for sale in La Barra, a popular and trendy area and almost bought a lot of land to build on. There is tremendous growth in this area and there were tons of shops, stores and restaurants being constructed.

My favorite spot was a place I visited called Marina del Este. It was an amazing Mediterranean villa type area with about 60 homes and apartments in a closed community. The views were amazing. It was almost like being in the Mediterranean or the French Riviera. If money were no object, I’d buy one of the places here and live here a few months out of the year when I wasn’t in Buenos Aires.

I see tremendous potential in the real estate market here and I will attempt to do the same thing I am doing in Buenos Aires here in PDE. I posted just last week about taking the same principle of what I’m doing in Buenos Aires and making it work in other parts of the world. Many people emailed or posted that it’s almost impossible to succeed without spending significant time in the area. I disagreed believing that following a sound business plan it IS possible to achieve results and make money. We will see if I’m correct. This was my first visit to the city. I spent a little over 48 hours in the city and I believe I can take the same principles of how I created my business in Buenos Aires and make it a success here in Punta del Este.

I gave some ideas to the gentleman that hosted me and he was amazed at some of my ideas. I plan on partnering with him in a real estate venture in Punta del Este as a 50/50 partner. I want to revolutionize the real estate market here and bring globalization to this industry. I know it won’t be easy but few things important in life are. In the future look for puntaDE.com puntarealestate.com or apartmentspde.com.

Some of you might not think this has anything to do with living in Buenos Aires but what I want to show is that you too can move to a foreign country and start a business with hard work. I basically moved to a foreign country and started a business that generates income within 3 months of moving here. I’m now making more money per month than what I’m spending. Sure it’s peanuts compared to what I was making when I worked in the USA, but it’s a start.

I heard there was no hobby scene in PDE. I didn't even have time to look as I was busy the ENTIRE time I was there. I had several business meetings and was busy the entire time, even in the evenings. I seriously doubt there is any kind of hobby scene here. Just not the environment for it. I did see some hotties. One girl working in a furniture store was hot. I flirted with her and got her phone number.

You must have a car here or rent a car. The city is so spread out. Those that just come here for the summer to play probably don't have a chance to see the entire city like I did. It's an amazing place filled with great properties. Very laid back place. I think it is very romantic and the perfect place to fly with a novia. I hope to buy a property in the future here. The flight is very easy and the flight was from Aeroparque so it was very easy. Flight time is only around 40 minutes and relatively cheap at $150 US with taxes. There are cheaper flights but I bought relatively at the last minute.

I highly recommend going if you're looking at a spot to take a girlfriend with but save your hobby money because I seriously doubt there is a P2P scene here.

[Saint]

Hey amigo. I fear that your friend is right. I leave tomorrow and will report back what I find. I still find it hard to believe there would be no scene but I guess it's a small town. I'm not sure how much time I'll have to "play" but I figure one of the nights I should be able to snoop around.

Thanks for the good luck wishes. Things are going much better than I expected. Take care and safe travels.

Saint

[Hot To Cool]

Saint,

Relax, Saint, try the Uruguayan equivalent of WSG and you'll some reviews on the Punta del Este area.

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[LA Larry]

One of my best buds goes to Punta every single year in the month of January. He absolutely swears by it -- says that its like Buzios and St. Tropez. But he also was admament about there being no monger scene there to speak of.

I found that very hard to believe. But he said that in the 4 years that he has gone -- he has asked around -- from cabbies to friends -- and according to him -- there is very little pay for play action. virtually non-existent. he's seen some girls out of the newspapers who were atrocious.

I've been to Montevideo and found the scene there very disheartening (compared to BA) so I am inclined to believe my friend.

interested to read what you unearth.

best of luck on your biz.

Larry

[Saint]

There seems to be no real information on Punta del Este. Does anyone have any updated information???? I'm flying there on business next week for 3 days. I would imagine with all that money there, there must be some kind of P2P scene. I'll report back whatever I find but please PM or post before next Friday (November 19) if you have any information.

Thanks,

Saint

[Johan007]

Mongers.....

any updates on Punta del este????????

From what I hear the place even seem to have Russian hookers??? So I recon these ho's are very expensive? (just like the rest of PdE).

Keep us posted...

Johan

[Member #2420]

There are a number of professional establishments in Punta. They are actually located in Maldonado, not far from the downtown area of the city. They are called whiskyterias. Probably the largest is called Casa de Nana. The Casa used to have a website but I cannot find it now. There are several others within the same area.

[Doc Bill]

Which place has better action, Montivideo or PDE? Thanks!

[Dougus]

All,

As far as I could tell there are no professional establishments in Punta Del Este. There are some girls that hang around the bars and casinos but that is it. I am sure it is better in the high season as PDE is a major vacation destination for rich people from Brazil, Uruguay and Argentina.

There is a place in Maldanado where you can find some decent looking girls. The neighborhood seemed a little shady to me but that might be because I am an American, don't speak Spanish very well and the place is in a small, rural town that is kind of run down. That being said I made it out of the place with Angel, a fairly attactive (a 7 and I am very picky) 22 year old Uruguayan girl.

There were at least 20 women to choose from ranging from 4-8 in looks. I chose Angel because she had a great body and could speak a little English. Don't count on this as she may have been the only one and her English was not even as good as my Spanish. The place is set up so each girl has a little room that she rents and does business in. I chose to take Angel back to my hotel. It is just my opinion, but I think this is a better option for visitors.

Angel was happy to leave work and come to my hotel (The Conrad is a very nice hotel (US$120). I was told that I need to pay for her to leave and then her fee on top of that. I am sure that I paid for everyone involved and the cab driver as well but I would never have found the place without him and he went out of his way to help me so it was no problem. After all said and done everything was less than US$130 for the night. This might seem high for SA but Uruguay is pretty expensive for SA plus I'm sure I got a little bit of the gringo price even after negotiating for some time.

Once back in my hotel room, Angel did not dissapoint. She was very energetic and I think we both had a great time. No problems with the money or anything else, just a fun time with a nice professional girl. I would rate her a 9 on performance.

Overall a pretty good experience in PDE. The place is beautiful and the people are very nice. I plan to go back durin high season and check out the topless women wandering the beautiful beaches.

Dogus