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  1. #270
    Quote Originally Posted by Skepti10  [View Original Post]
    If I had more time I would definitely consider graz and Linz, but unfortunately given the time constraints I might have to stick to the bigger fkks, especially since you mention the girls tend to be older, meaning there'll be less younger ones for me to check out. Unless mystic is really terrible these days?
    I have no recent update on Mystic. It's favoured by local forums, but I hate the place (useless outdoors, mediocre lineup, but most of all because of upselling: 200/30 for a full GFE session?). Maybe I have been unlucky with my three Mystic visits in the past, but lately I have put it on the ignore list.

    GT Linz, at least in my experience, used to have more favourable quotes from the girls (70- 100E/30?), lineup pretty much the same as Mystic, but the facilities at GT Linz are far above Mystic's (indoors as well as outdoors).

    Quote Originally Posted by Skepti10  [View Original Post]
    Also because of the limited time I can't skip Monday and Tuesday, but perhaps just one of these days could be used as a rest day.
    Your choice. But if you really want to see the best FKK lineup Austria has to offer, you cannot visit Wellcum on a Monday or Tuesday.

    Quote Originally Posted by Skepti10  [View Original Post]
    I've heard GT Vienna isn't great, but since I'll be in the area anyway I might as well take a look. Is the issue with the place low quality girls? Sharky attitude? Poor facilities?
    First of all sharky attitude and upsell hell. I feel you are not as price sensitive and service demanding as me, so it may not be as important to you. But do not be surprised if girls quote 300 E /30 or more for a GFE session at GT Vienna (base rate of 100E/30 + 70 extra for each of BBBJ, DATY and DFK + expecting a generous tip), although you may be able to haggle it down to 150- 250 E /30 if you have game. Or, simply accept a lousy CBJ/CFS session.

    Compare this to Wellcum where I suppose it is still possible for excellent sessions with hotter girls than GT Vienna from 80- 100 E /30 if you are selective.

    Have fun!

  2. #269

    Late reply

    Quote Originally Posted by Shark16  [View Original Post]
    At Skepti10,

    My two cents:
    Thanks for the info, even if it's a little out of date I think it should still be quite relevant for me. Yes I think if I fly straight to Klagenfurt and drive to wellcum on Friday / Saturday I'll end up visiting Vienna at the end of the roadtrip.

    If I had more time I would definitely consider graz and Linz, but unfortunately given the time constraints I might have to stick to the bigger fkks, especially since you mention the girls tend to be older, meaning there'll be less younger ones for me to check out. Unless mystic is really terrible these days?

    Also because of the limited time I can't skip Monday and Tuesday, but perhaps just one of these days could be used as a rest day.

    Quote Originally Posted by Pistons  [View Original Post]
    Can still have great days in any clubs on mondays and tuesdays. Sometimes that just means you won't have to wait for the girls. The girls will wait for you. Some of my mondays and tuesdays have been among my best days in any FKK. Austria or Germany. I personally find sundays the most boring myself.
    What would be the difference between a Sunday Vs Monday or Tuesday? A bit surprising you enjoy one but less so the other.

    What's your definition of a 9-10/10? In any case I think I'll only end up visiting andiamo if wellcum is a huge disappointment, although given they have the same owner the girl quality probably won't be much higher?

    I've heard GT Vienna isn't great, but since I'll be in the area anyway I might as well take a look. Is the issue with the place low quality girls? Sharky attitude? Poor facilities?

    As you both agree wellcum is indeed number one, I'm leaning towards my original itinerary. Thanks for the advice!

  3. #268
    Quote Originally Posted by Shark16  [View Original Post]
    https://paradise-graz.at/

    ISG has a separate thread on Graz and this club http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/....php?1625-Graz . Seems like a small but nice club.
    Well, I know that much. All the Paradise group clubs (Palace, Paradise Stuttgart, Paradise Saarbrucken and Mystic) market it with videos on their TVs also. But I haven't been there.

  4. #267
    Quote Originally Posted by Pistons  [View Original Post]
    Don't know much about the Graz club. Would love to get some info about it.
    https://paradise-graz.at/

    ISG has a separate thread on Graz and this club http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/....php?1625-Graz . Seems like a small but nice club.

  5. #266
    There is also Palladium in Bregenz and Circolo Passion in Innsbruck. Not sure how good those two are either. Maybe someone knows?

  6. #265
    Can still have great days in any clubs on mondays and tuesdays. Sometimes that just means you won't have to wait for the girls. The girls will wait for you. Some of my mondays and tuesdays have been among my best days in any FKK. Austria or Germany. I personally find sundays the most boring myself.

    Andiamo also has / had a discount on entry on Mon. -wed this March, and there are a few great girls there also. Not close to Wellcum in variety, but if you plan on staying several days in the Villach area, a change of scenery is smart for your libido. You might also be surprised at Andiamo by one or two 9's or 10's like I was.

    I would skip GT Vienna myself after several visits in the past 5 years.

    GT Linz is a great club. Lineup is kinda like at Andiamo now. You might find one or two 9's or 10's. Maybe it used to have a slightly younger median age than Andiamo. At least last year and the year before where I saw a couple of 20-25 year olds.

    Wellcum is ofcourse the nr. 1 club not just in Austria, but in Europe. At the moment there are a bunch of 24 year olds. At least half a dousin. Aside from that I can only remember 3 or 4 girls younger than that at wellcum. And none below 20. But 24 is still young in my book.

    Don't know much about the Graz club. Would love to get some info about it. I do hear the Salzburg clubs are a complete skip at the moment however.

  7. #264

    FKK tour of Austria

    At Skepti10,

    My two cents:

    - If I were to revisit Austria again starting on a Friday, I would go straight to Wellcum spending the weekend there. Whatever you do for the remainder of your time is up to you. Save Vienna for the last days?

    - Graz has a sauna club that is pretty much ignored on ISG. Could be an option when in town. Never been, but I would have searched local forums for info.

    - I see no reason to skip GT Linz if doing a FKK tour. It is a fave among a few mongers. Strong points used to be fair prices and a couple of high optics (although few). Excellent facilities (possibly the best in Austria next to Wellcum).

    - Age group 25- 40 is predominant at the FKKs including Austria. Teens pretty much impossible (let's be real here). I suggest Wellcum as the best for age group 20- 25.

    - Just avoid Monday / Tuesdays anywhere and you will be fine. It's the girls off days with only 50- 60% of lineup in attendance. If you have high expectations about lineup and expect a party atmosphere, then you are bound to be disappointed. But club and girls can be more relaxed which can lead to good sessions. Try to be realistic.

    - I rarely see phones at FKK clubs (Germany and Austria) to which I am glad.

    Disclaimer: The above based on visits in 2021- 23. I have not been to Austria in the last 11 months.

  8. #263

    Austrian fkks. Best days to visit, itinerary & phone usage

    I'm currently planning an Austrian FKK tour at the end of summer (early Sept.) and could use some advice / suggestions. The plan is to visit GT wein, Mystic and Wellcum as I've already visited sharks / oase / samya / globe / etc. GT Linz isn't a priority given what I've read, but if along the way I may stopover for a few hours.

    From what I've read Wellcum should be the "best" in terms of girls and facilities, but is there a notable difference in girl quality between visiting on a Friday / Saturday vs Monday / Tuesday? Obviously visiting on Fri / Sat would be ideal, but it would be much more troublesome in terms of logistics. My preferred type is 18 to early 20's, slim, as few tattoos / piercings as possible, "innocent" looking faces, natural or silicone tits are both fine as long as it's not rock hard.

    Fwiw my current itinerary is:

    - Friday fly into Vienna, spend 2 nights doing touristy things and visiting GT. May check out Maxim but not a priority.

    - Sunday rent a car and taking a leisurely drive to Graz, probably doing some G rated sightseeing.

    - Monday morning drive to Wellcum's hotel and stay 2 nights. Taking the car to do some more scenic drives in the morning and visiting the FKK in the afternoon / evening.

    - Wednesday check out and head to Salzburg for 2 nights. Again touristy stuff in the morning and visiting Mystic in the afternoon / evening. Unlikely to hit up Linz.

    - Friday may take a long train ride to Frankfurt and visit Shark (which I've already visited multiple times in 2018 & 2019) before heading home the next day.

    If I really should try to visit wellcum on a busy day I would have to:

    - Fly to Klagenfurt with a transit in VIE (which I'm trying to avoid if at all possible), stay 2 nights.

    - Drive up to Salzburg, 2 nights.

    - Drive east to Vienna, stay there the rest of the week. Possiblity of a stopover in GT Linz.

    - Fly out directly from VIE, no chance to visit sharks.

    Thoughts?

    Also I know phones are not allowed in a lot of fkks, how strictly is this enforced in Austria? From past experiences I've found Oase to be the most strict. In shark you could just use the upstairs solo cabana, close the curtains and be fine. In fact I seem to remember before COVID in FKK Living Room as long as you weren't obviously pointing your phone at someone no one cared at all. I understand people are concerned about privacy, but frankly long FKK stays are boring and I need something to do other than talking to the girls and eating / doing saunas. Could I just sit somewhere out of the place and use it in the corner somewhere? Do any of the FKKs have single-person cabanas with curtains like Sharks? I asked this question in another forum and someone mentioned GT Wein is very strict. Wellcum should be fine since I can just head to the hotel room. How about Mystic?

  9. #262
    Seems like the new price for 30 min is 80 euro (used to be 70), and 160 euro for 1 HR.

    But entry price is unchanged at 90 (it did change from 85 a few years ago).

    So compared to GT Vienna who increased prices even more, or will from Feb. 1st, Wellcum is the no brainer club to visit in Austria now!

  10. #261
    Quote Originally Posted by Nordico  [View Original Post]
    Hi,

    I know I could I could ask the hotel, but as they usually answer yes, but no, I ask you guys if the hotels in Vienna usually allow guests and specifically if someone has experience with SO / Vienna, I would appreciate the info.
    It's a very good hotel and also fairly close to the center of Vienna.

    They allow escorts for sure without any problem.

  11. #260

    SO/ Vienna

    Hi,

    I know I could I could ask the hotel, but as they usually answer yes, but no, I ask you guys if the hotels in Vienna usually allow guests and specifically if someone has experience with SO / Vienna, I would appreciate the info.

  12. #259

    Money lockers

    Quote Originally Posted by XXL  [View Original Post]
    I don't feel comfortable with FKKs where you have to leave your valuables in your garment locker. What's the deal in Austrian FKKs?
    Most of Austrian FKK clubs have separate money lockers as far as I have experienced (just like Germany). At least GT Vienna and Wellcum do. The only exception IME is Golden Time Linz (where I have close to ten problem free visits). Mystic, the worst FKK club I have ever visited, I do not recall exactly, but I think they do have them.

    I would not worry too much. I have always felt safe in Austria (clubbing or not). Maybe in particular in FKK clubs, where there is security. As they say, the only "crime" you will likely experience is girls upsell and the occasional poor performance.

    Not to say that bad luck can't happen. Irrespective of clubbing or not, I suggest to always spread your valuables a little bit when travelling abroad (rental car, hotel room, maybe even in a bathrobe at a FKK club, spare credit card, usw).

    Welcome to Austria! Have fun. We look forward to hearing about your findings.

  13. #258

    Locker arrangements in Austrian FKKs?

    FKKs like Oase, Sharks, Palace in Germany have theft-proof lockers near the front-desk to keep valuables (car keys, credit card, cash, driving licence.).

    I don't feel comfortable with FKKs where you have to leave your valuables in your garment locker. What's the deal in Austrian FKKs?

  14. #257
    Quote Originally Posted by Brotlof  [View Original Post]
    Hi, I'm going to Wien for the next week and I have been reading up on it both on the forums and on other webpages. I have some questions, mostly to be sure.

    1. I have been looking up on brothels, laufhauses and massage parlours (which offers extra) and I've noticed that alot of the webpages usually don't have an english option and while I assume that most speak english, like in Germany. I would like to be sure. Especially in regards to question #2. I would hope someone could clarify that for me.

    2. The last few days I've been looking for asian women and studios in Vienna, using https://laufhaus-wn.at/specials/ and https://sexmagazin.at/sexfuehrer/suc...rie%5B0%5D=516 and I've noticed that alot of the studios mentioned on both pages often lack a web presence (They only give you an address and a number). Using google streetview, a lot of them can be found at their address, but no info about girl, services and etc. I've also noticed that a lot of the webpages look fairly similar (same layout, build) Is this common? Are these places legit or are they shady?

    3. Anyone got experience with.

    -Tuberose studio https://www.tuberose.wien/.

    -Asia studio love 5 https://asia-love5.jimdofree.com/.

    -Bamboo Massage http://www.bamboomassage.at/.

    -Asia studio Lily https://asia-studio-lily.webnode.at/drei-spalten/.

    Asking because some of the women look hot, but I'm skeptical due to webpages looking shady and would appreciate any input on these and asian studios in Vienna in general.

    4. I've come across the terms NS and asiasex (using google translate due to my German being really bad), but I can't find any clear definition to what those terms mean. (I've seen claims that asiasex= rimming, and some claims that claim NS=AO while others claim NS=Pissing). Anyone know?

    5. Last but not least. I've heard that there has been a new law (or at least change to a law) about condoms. Since I'm not great at german, do anyone know how this has affected the p4 p market in Vienna in regards to AO and Owo? Not necessarily interested in AO, but kinda curious.

    Thanks for all respons in advance.
    NS= piss on.

    AO = sex without condom.

    Algerias (sp) french = rimming.

    Bamboo massage visited twice both little English and older, near granny type & girl pics on website years old and not there.

    New law refers to advertising- can not advertise NF (BBJ) or AO, so must ask girl or reception.

  15. #256

    Visiting Vienna

    Hi, I'm going to Wien for the next week and I have been reading up on it both on the forums and on other webpages. I have some questions, mostly to be sure.

    1. I have been looking up on brothels, laufhauses and massage parlours (which offers extra) and I've noticed that alot of the webpages usually don't have an english option and while I assume that most speak english, like in Germany. I would like to be sure. Especially in regards to question #2. I would hope someone could clarify that for me.

    2. The last few days I've been looking for asian women and studios in Vienna, using https://laufhaus-wn.at/specials/ and https://sexmagazin.at/sexfuehrer/suc...rie%5B0%5D=516 and I've noticed that alot of the studios mentioned on both pages often lack a web presence (They only give you an address and a number). Using google streetview, a lot of them can be found at their address, but no info about girl, services and etc. I've also noticed that a lot of the webpages look fairly similar (same layout, build) Is this common? Are these places legit or are they shady?

    3. Anyone got experience with.

    -Tuberose studio https://www.tuberose.wien/.

    -Asia studio love 5 https://asia-love5.jimdofree.com/.

    -Bamboo Massage http://www.bamboomassage.at/.

    -Asia studio Lily https://asia-studio-lily.webnode.at/drei-spalten/.

    Asking because some of the women look hot, but I'm skeptical due to webpages looking shady and would appreciate any input on these and asian studios in Vienna in general.

    4. I've come across the terms NS and asiasex (using google translate due to my German being really bad), but I can't find any clear definition to what those terms mean. (I've seen claims that asiasex= rimming, and some claims that claim NS=AO while others claim NS=Pissing). Anyone know?

    5. Last but not least. I've heard that there has been a new law (or at least change to a law) about condoms. Since I'm not great at german, do anyone know how this has affected the p4 p market in Vienna in regards to AO and Owo? Not necessarily interested in AO, but kinda curious.

    Thanks for all respons in advance.

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