Vienna

[Massimo Potente]

Unfortunately, you are most likely correct about predicting that is not going to happen. Somehow these FKK owners / operators rarely change or improve their businesses from the inception of their respective clubs. Only Globe / Emporium group owner Ingo seems to be making changes looking to improve, and so far having huge success with increased revenues. For other clubs, we are stuck with rampant increase of session rates with no increase or guarantee of service qualities.

The law is not on the side of the operators in Austria. FKK GLobe's system would not stand in Austria the way it obviously does in Switzerland.

[Gino02]

That is certainly not going to ever happen.

Unfortunately, you are most likely correct about predicting that is not going to happen. Somehow these FKK owners / operators rarely change or improve their businesses from the inception of their respective clubs. Only Globe / Emporium group owner Ingo seems to be making changes looking to improve, and so far having huge success with increased revenues. For other clubs, we are stuck with rampant increase of session rates with no increase or guarantee of service qualities.

[MonSooner]

Because Austrian laws aren't as screwed up as German laws, FKKs in Austria can follow the footsteps of Globe to make the clubs better for girls, customers and themselves. Increase rates but guarantee service. Add public sex like Globe and they can get more German and local customers. Hell maybe even allow public AO sex for girls who are down for it, maybe have it as an extra like anal. All these can definitely justify if they charge close to Globe prices.

That is certainly not going to ever happen.

[Skarz]

I would say from personal experience that Booksusi does, at the very least, play an indirect role in this disaster.

I was fairly sexually active also during the pandemic and the hit and miss ratio of good and bad experiences came to an all-time-low with no betterment in sight as far as I can tell.

And that is trickling down into the clubs as well. Not in all of them, though.

I am pretty sure that Babylon and Maxim will not allow the girls to charge fantasy prices if it can be avoided.

Granted, their prices were high enough to begin with but they also didn't increase them yet.

Booksusi had and have a serious effect on pricing. The girls went online and started to use this site. At some point, a few girls started to increase the prices. They were able to do this until they got enough calls from clients. And then the other girls also noticed that some girls have higher prices, and they also increased their own prices. You can see these prices now in the above-mentioned FKKs as well.

[Gino02]

Even though this is a moot point in general, because Globe is not in Vienna, Fijiman pointed out that the service level has always been much higher in Switzerland, which in fact has justified to some degree the higher prices. If now FKK girls in Austria and mostly in Vienna start to charge Swiss prices, what is it that you disagree with? It's a catastrophe in the making.

Yes, the higher prices with reduced services are scary but hopefully only temporary.

Because Austrian laws aren't as screwed up as German laws, FKKs in Austria can follow the footsteps of Globe to make the clubs better for girls, customers and themselves. Increase rates but guarantee service. Add public sex like Globe and they can get more German and local customers. Hell maybe even allow public AO sex for girls who are down for it, maybe have it as an extra like anal. All these can definitely justify if they charge close to Globe prices.

[Sirioja]

Even though this is a moot point in general, because Globe is not in Vienna, Fijiman pointed out that the service level has always been much higher in Switzerland, which in fact has justified to some degree the higher prices. If now FKK girls in Austria and mostly in Vienna start to charge Swiss prices, what is it that you disagree with? It's a catastrophe in the making.

Yes, the higher prices with reduced services are scary but hopefully only temporary.

Because I visit, I konw Globe don't worth anymore so expensive rate, when I get better elsewhere for less expensive, but I doubt a lot rates will decrease.

[MonSooner]

These high prices are starting to become scary. I expect the same and believe that Booksusi also has a significant role in price escalation.

I would say from personal experience that Booksusi does, at the very least, play an indirect role in this disaster.

I was fairly sexually active also during the pandemic and the hit and miss ratio of good and bad experiences came to an all-time-low with no betterment in sight as far as I can tell.

And that is trickling down into the clubs as well. Not in all of them, though.

I am pretty sure that Babylon and Maxim will not allow the girls to charge fantasy prices if it can be avoided.

Granted, their prices were high enough to begin with but they also didn't increase them yet.

[Massimo Potente]

I found prettier and higher level for love sex at GT Vienna than most at falling Globe since 2019.

Even though this is a moot point in general, because Globe is not in Vienna, Fijiman pointed out that the service level has always been much higher in Switzerland, which in fact has justified to some degree the higher prices. If now FKK girls in Austria and mostly in Vienna start to charge Swiss prices, what is it that you disagree with? It's a catastrophe in the making.

Yes, the higher prices with reduced services are scary but hopefully only temporary.

[Sirioja]

Yes, exactly. 300/ HR is Globe pricing in Zurich, where cost of living and income is much higher, and frankly the service quality is much higher.

Once those two girls charged me 150/ half and 200/ half, then I didn't return to GT the rest of my time in Vienna and have no interest in going back or recommending it. Just dumb by them.

I found prettier and higher level for love sex at GT Vienna than most at falling Globe since 2019.

[Skarz]

These high prices are starting to become scary. I expect the same and believe that Booksusi also has a significant role in price escalation.

[Fijiman]

As an aside, I still can't believe that the girls in GT (and many other FKK clubs) don't understand why charging 300 Euro / hour will kill the business. I can literally find tons of studio girls or independents in Vienna (or Berlin or Frankfurt etc) who will charge half of that. The whole reason that the FKK model works is that the girls have many many customers per night, so rather than a studio girl or independent with 2-3 customers per day, the FKK girl could have 10. This is how the old 50 Euro /30 min in FKK Oase worked. The customers would enjoy 4-5 sessions over the course of the day, sometimes a half hour, sometimes an hour, spending 250-500 Euro. The girls were busy all day and all night. Now, with 300 Euro / hour pricing, I do one room and start thinking about leaving. It's too expensive to have multiple repeats. A single session hardly makes it worth it to pay entrance and set aside a whole day from my vacation.

Yes, exactly. 300/ HR is Globe pricing in Zurich, where cost of living and income is much higher, and frankly the service quality is much higher.

Once those two girls charged me 150/ half and 200/ half, then I didn't return to GT the rest of my time in Vienna and have no interest in going back or recommending it. Just dumb by them.

[Sirioja]

I would do 300 per hour (and have) if that came with BBBJ / CIM, straight sex, and anal sex. But if that's not a part of the package, then I'm balking. I would like to do another major multi-city trip to Europe again (preferably in Germany), but if prices are high and services low, then I'll be doing lot of balking and walking!

In Germany, if I was not too big for anal, I could have, my wow German proposed me on our discovery, 1 hour french kissing all along, DT BBBJ, anal and CIM for 210 without negotiating, what I never do. No anal but CIM she almost swallowed when was deep in her throat. A lovely girl willing to please, why she is so busy.

[ThePenetrator]

So there are a bunch, I had a good experience with a girl from Savage Studio that came to my hotel.

Check out:

https://booksusi.com/channel/ohne/

That lists a lot of girls who offer it many are from different studios. They also allow ratings so it can help with making your choice.

https://www.ohne-service.com/forumdi...AO-Sex-in-Wien

That is a forum for Austria, specifically Vienna for bareback service.

Between that forum and Book Susi I had a good experience back in May. I hope that helps.

Yes thanks very much, I'll look through.

[The Cane]

As an aside, I still can't believe that the girls in GT (and many other FKK clubs) don't understand why charging 300 Euro / hour will kill the business. I can literally find tons of studio girls or independents in Vienna (or Berlin or Frankfurt etc) who will charge half of that. The whole reason that the FKK model works is that the girls have many many customers per night, so rather than a studio girl or independent with 2-3 customers per day, the FKK girl could have 10. This is how the old 50 Euro /30 min in FKK Oase worked. The customers would enjoy 4-5 sessions over the course of the day, sometimes a half hour, sometimes an hour, spending 250-500 Euro. The girls were busy all day and all night. Now, with 300 Euro / hour pricing, I do one room and start thinking about leaving. It's too expensive to have multiple repeats. A single session hardly makes it worth it to pay entrance and set aside a whole day from my vacation.

I would do 300 per hour (and have) if that came with BBBJ / CIM, straight sex, and anal sex. But if that's not a part of the package, then I'm balking. I would like to do another major multi-city trip to Europe again (preferably in Germany), but if prices are high and services low, then I'll be doing lot of balking and walking!

[ShinyCrazy]

And for those members who claim they were getting offers for 200 Euro / HR, all I can say is that not a single girl would accept that when I was last in GT or Artemis. I have visited FKK clubs for well over 15 years, and I am not a pushover. I had better luck in Sharks, but the pricing issue is truly going to kill this business if they don't reel it in. COVID was devastating to the club business. Also, the internet has already changed mongering away from clubs and I suspect most of the 18-25 year old cuties that are AWOL from the FKK Clubs are doing their business online. Ridiculous pricing could be the final blow. It's frustrating. Even in Thailand it has gotten difficult to find the younger cuties. We are seeing way too many 30-40 year olds in this business worldwide.