Vienna

[Pistons]

I agree based on the FKK clubs that I know. FKK SHARKS (Darmstadt, Germany) could make a case for being among the top 3 and also a contender for the top spot but I believe Wellcum is slighly better and the club is generally prettier although much smaller. I think it is a close race.

Wellcum usually seems to have twice the number of top lookers compared to sharks, even if sharks have more girls. Average maybe 100 compared to 75 on the busiest days of the week. So the beauty ratio is quite a bit higher at Wellcum. And better food. The outside area is a draw. What sharks has for it is the sauna master rituals and a better steam room and Jacuzzi, although Wellcum does have a good sanarium that sharks doesn't have. Sharks should probably convert their outdoor Finnish sauna to a sanarium, since having 2 Finnish saunas is useless. I don't like IR sauna, so no points to wellcum there. Wellcum also has a cinema, which is a plus. Sharks does have more people to chat with on slow days though, at least for a non-Italian speaker, although sometimes just Germans who only go there to hang out. The main setback at Wellcum is the short opening hours. The increased price is fine I suppose, but it is an upper limit. Thankfully that leads to less upselling than in Germany as a whole, so it is a give or take.

[Massimo Potente]

Thank you so much Massimo, you've helped me so much. Any idea if Maxim will be open by mid March?

I bet they'll open somewhen in February.

One more question: Babylon also has a club in Salzburg right? Since I'm going there too I was wondering if I should go to the Vienna Babylon or the Salzburg one as going to both will be costly.

Those 2 Babylons don't belong together anymore. The Casabianca group bought Babylon Salzburg a few years ago. People have reported that quality has declined since then but I can't be sure. I think is a safe bet to go to either one.

And probably also the current king in all of Europe too.

I agree based on the FKK clubs that I know. FKK SHARKS (Darmstadt, Germany) could make a case for being among the top 3 and also a contender for the top spot but I believe Wellcum is slighly better and the club is generally prettier although much smaller. I think it is a close race.

[Chubzy Maximus]

1. Babylon Wien -- it is 100 entry and that includes free food and drink but that is waived if you go with a girl. Girl rates are 550 per hour? What about half-hour rate? (I know it is expensive -- (about the same level as Aphrodisia in Zurich which I've been to) -but I want to tick Babylon Wien off my bucket list. Can you pay with bank cards at Babylon (MC, Visa, AmEX, EC cards)? Oh, is there a dress code for visitors -- should I go in a business suit or at least a jacket?

2. Maxim- what is the deal here? I'm confused. I know from the website it is 200/ hour with a girl but what is this about drinks? It is a contact bar? Someone please explain how it works -- couldn't find detailed reports explaining the process. I assume you have to pay for a girl's drink (how much are they?) before you can take her to a room? BTW I saw the pics of Daisy and she is exactly the kind of beauty I go for! (I might even book her as an escort)..

If you do go to Babylon, please do give a nice detailed report bro, we have limited ones on this thread. There may be some blokes who would go if we knew there were good providers there. I got to say, I loved Vienna, great city, and hands down, I had met three consistent great GFE providers in Elena Frances, Sofia Ivanova and lastly Daisy. Sadly none are Austrian, which we discussed in earlier postings. Let us know what you find at Babylon.

With respect to Daisy. You have two options. There is a phone number on the website that responds to WhatsApp texts. Shoot them a text and before that figure out if you want to do outcall or incall. Outcall prices are mentioned. If the club is open when You are going, just tell them the name of the girl you want, in your case Daisy, and how long you want to session for and at what time. You can bypass bar and be led directly to room. They are very customer oriented. Daisy is an excellent pole dancer and you should watch her if you get a chance. I think one of the rooms has a pole in it too. Be careful with the drinking, she can hold her own and then some with the liquor, LOL. Don't want to pay all that €€ and not be able to pop a chubby!

[Pistons]

Wellcum which is the absolute King of FKK in Austria wihtout a shadow of a doubt.

And probably also the current king in all of Europe too.

[Viking696]

Based on the thread most forum members in Vienna go to FKK clubs.

How about escort websites?

E. G. This one? http://www.escortservice-wien.com/escort-girls/diana/.

Has anyone used it? The rate of 130 for an outcall including taxi seems too low for such a lady.

What is a realistic 1 HR rate for a lady of such level?

Appreciate your view.

Yes, it is very low price. Be aware that in case of such a low price it means only a basic rate and the girl will extra charge every single service (starting from kissing, OWO, 69, COB, CIM, extra ball and so on) by around 50 eur and you could easily get over 300 eur per hour if you would require full service. It is advised to check the girl's included services before booking. Avoid Romanian girls, most of them provide poor service and have outdated photos. Czech, Slovakian, Hungarian and Polish girls are recommended.

[Sebastiane]

1. Half an hour is 400 or 450. I think one should always opt for the hour in the case of Babylon. Creditcards are accepted. There once was a dress code, nowadays I think it doesn't matter anymore but personally I always dress up when I go there.

2. Maxim is closed at the moment still because they have to fix some technical stuff "backstage". I didn't know for a while what it was but recently I learned that it is practically nothing and they will open again very soon. It's a contact bar in that you get there and get a drink before the ladies approach. The girls will ask for drinks but one can go have sex with them also without paying a drink beforehand. This has been discussed many times, if paying Champagne upfront would change the experience for the better or if there is any difference at all. Personally I mostly drink with the girl before because this has been a tradition in Vienna in sex bars for decades and it also sets a good mood, mostly. It's widely accepted that Maxim is the last one of those clubs that is pulling it off. There is also some gogo dancing going on and, as you know, escort is on offer, too. The club is closed but Escort bookings are possible. Some of the Maxim girls Like Ariana, Anna, Eva and Nikki decided to spend the waiting time for Maxim to open again at Bar Schnbrunn which also belongs to the Maxim group. It is a much smaller version and not really a fair comparison but if you are in the area and you like to see one of the mention girls then there they are..

Thank you so much Massimo, you've helped me so much. Any idea if Maxim will be open by mid March?

Thanks again. At Maxim Daisy is top of my list.

One more question: Babylon also has a club in Salzburg right? Since I'm going there too I was wondering if I should go to the Vienna Babylon or the Salzburg one as going to both will be costly.

[Massimo Potente]

If this is all true, unless you care about the venue, there is no reason to visit GT instead of going to a Laufhaus since the price and service level seem to be the same now, only in Laufhauses there is no 90 eur entry fee.

Apples and Oranges. Plenty of reasons.

[Massimo Potente]

Hi everyone,

I'm about to book a holiday to Vienna (and possibly spend a day in Villach for Andiamo and nearby Wellcum but not 100% decided as it's hard to get to without a car) and just wanted to clarify about the following clubs which are my target. Plus Wien is one of my favourite cities to visit too for its cultural scene especially music and ballet.

Is the following info gleaned from this forum still accurate?

1. Babylon Wien -- it is 100 entry and that includes free food and drink but that is waived if you go with a girl. Girl rates are 550 per hour? What about half-hour rate? (I know it is expensive -- (about the same level as Aphrodisia in Zurich which I've been to) -but I want to tick Babylon Wien off my bucket list. Can you pay with bank cards at Babylon (MC, Visa, AmEX, EC cards)? Oh, is there a dress code for visitors -- should I go in a business suit or at least a jacket?

2. Maxim- what is the deal here? I'm confused. I know from the website it is 200/ hour with a girl but what is this about drinks? It is a contact bar? Someone please explain how it works -- couldn't find detailed reports explaining the process. I assume you have to pay for a girl's drink (how much are they?) before you can take her to a room? BTW I saw the pics of Daisy and she is exactly the kind of beauty I go for! (I might even book her as an escort).

3. GoldenTime- this seems like a typical FKK type club. Entry is 90 and then its 100/30 now if you're a tourist but with BBBJ included? Is food included?

I won't have time to try all the other options. I might consider taking the train down to Villach for a day just to visit Andiamo and / or Wellcum but that would add at least another couple of nights to my trip and end with a non-mongering day at Salzburg.

Looking forward to your answers especially Massimo who seems the expert here and I will write detailed reports as I always do.

1. Half an hour is 400 or 450. I think one should always opt for the hour in the case of Babylon. Creditcards are accepted. There once was a dress code, nowadays I think it doesn't matter anymore but personally I always dress up when I go there.

2. Maxim is closed at the moment still because they have to fix some technical stuff "backstage". I didn't know for a while what it was but recently I learned that it is practically nothing and they will open again very soon. It's a contact bar in that you get there and get a drink before the ladies approach. The girls will ask for drinks but one can go have sex with them also without paying a drink beforehand. This has been discussed many times, if paying Champagne upfront would change the experience for the better or if there is any difference at all. Personally I mostly drink with the girl before because this has been a tradition in Vienna in sex bars for decades and it also sets a good mood, mostly. It's widely accepted that Maxim is the last one of those clubs that is pulling it off. There is also some gogo dancing going on and, as you know, escort is on offer, too. The club is closed but Escort bookings are possible. Some of the Maxim girls Like Ariana, Anna, Eva and Nikki decided to spend the waiting time for Maxim to open again at Bar Schnbrunn which also belongs to the Maxim group. It is a much smaller version and not really a fair comparison but if you are in the area and you like to see one of the mention girls then there they are.

3. Food is included and it is a typical and straighforward FKK. Some guys say that anything still goes for 60 and nothing has changed but many girls really ask 100 for half an hour and 60 will be very basic or the girl in rare cases even declines the session. But it is still your best FKK option in Vienna and probably the best FKK in Austria after Wellcum which is the absolute King of FKK in Austria wihtout a shadow of a doubt.

[TheRugdr]

Only if you agree to it I suppose. Last time I was at GT vienma less than 6 months ago, not a single girl there quoted me 100 per 30 minutes.

Many ladies (especially the busier ones) have been quoting customers 60 euros for 30 minutes of standard service, 100 euros for 30 minutes of GFE service (includes DFK, OWO), plus an additional 60 for CIM. There are still some girls who will accept 60 euros for 30 minutes of GFE, OWO, DFK, if you hold your ground while chatting with them before agreeing to go to the room.

[Pistons]

Which pricing genius figured a 67% price hike was a smart thing to do? This type of fluctuating prices one see in Vienna across several venues doesn't really spell out the idea of understanding a market. Or market dynamics for that matter. Either that, or it is just something locals there have been told to write because they want to charge more from non locals.

[Ragnaros]

I have been reading through the GT thread on the local Austrian forum, and a lot of members complain that the de facto price for 30 minutes is now 100 eur, apparently only certain regulars can still get the 60 eur price and again only with certain girls. On top of that, it seems that the service level is hit or miss despite the increase in cost. If this is all true, unless you care about the venue, there is no reason to visit GT instead of going to a Laufhaus since the price and service level seem to be the same now, only in Laufhauses there is no 90 eur entry fee.

All that being said, I will be spending some time in Vienna in early February and I plan to spend a day in Goldentime just to relax and see if it really has gotten as bad as the locals say. What day of the week would you guys say is the best when it comes to the lineup? It would be most convenient for me on a Sunday but I am not sure if that is a good idea, I don't want to go there if Sunday is a dead day and give a negative assessment that does not reflect reality.

[Pistons]

3. GoldenTime- this seems like a typical FKK type club. Entry is 90 and then its 100/30 now if you're a tourist but with BBBJ included? Is food included?

Only if you agree to it I suppose. Last time I was at GT vienma less than 6 months ago, not a single girl there quoted me 100 per 30 minutes.

[Sebastiane]

Hi everyone,

I'm about to book a holiday to Vienna (and possibly spend a day in Villach for Andiamo and nearby Wellcum but not 100% decided as it's hard to get to without a car) and just wanted to clarify about the following clubs which are my target. Plus Wien is one of my favourite cities to visit too for its cultural scene especially music and ballet.

Is the following info gleaned from this forum still accurate?

1. Babylon Wien -- it is 100 entry and that includes free food and drink but that is waived if you go with a girl. Girl rates are 550 per hour? What about half-hour rate? (I know it is expensive -- (about the same level as Aphrodisia in Zurich which I've been to) -but I want to tick Babylon Wien off my bucket list. Can you pay with bank cards at Babylon (MC, Visa, AmEX, EC cards)? Oh, is there a dress code for visitors -- should I go in a business suit or at least a jacket?

2. Maxim- what is the deal here? I'm confused. I know from the website it is 200/ hour with a girl but what is this about drinks? It is a contact bar? Someone please explain how it works -- couldn't find detailed reports explaining the process. I assume you have to pay for a girl's drink (how much are they?) before you can take her to a room? BTW I saw the pics of Daisy and she is exactly the kind of beauty I go for! (I might even book her as an escort).

3. GoldenTime- this seems like a typical FKK type club. Entry is 90 and then its 100/30 now if you're a tourist but with BBBJ included? Is food included?

I won't have time to try all the other options. I might consider taking the train down to Villach for a day just to visit Andiamo and / or Wellcum but that would add at least another couple of nights to my trip and end with a non-mongering day at Salzburg.

Looking forward to your answers especially Massimo who seems the expert here and I will write detailed reports as I always do.

[Luis61]

I will be next week in Vienna, someone know good place where is massage erotic?

[JaimeTenerife]

Based on the thread most forum members in Vienna go to FKK clubs.

How about escort websites?

E. G. This one? http://www.escortservice-wien.com/escort-girls/diana/.

Has anyone used it? The rate of 130 for an outcall including taxi seems too low for such a lady.

What is a realistic 1 HR rate for a lady of such level?

Appreciate your view.

Can be such a price but remember that 1 hour is with everything, so the real duration of the service is some 40 - 45 minutes, the rate is low, because the girls go on the number of customers and certainly it is the price for basic services. Good class escort is a price of 300 euros high, photos with a large amount of photoshop, so it will also look different.