Vienna

[BestBeer]

Julia speaks very little English and only a little bit of German. I know enough German to get what I want, so it worked out ok. But there was no way to chat before or after. Yes, Naturservice = AO. Mit Reinspritzen = CIP. Julia looked good, but her service was average. I had more fun with Antonia, but again, her service was good, not great.

I was only in Vienna a few days and only had the chance to go have some fun those two times. If I had more time, I probably would have checked out Studio Relaxe and La Chica Lounge, but they were a bit harder for me to get to, involving longer you-bahn trips. I tend to steer clear of Asian places in the US and Europe, for exactly the reasons you specify. Good luck and enjoy!

I see you thinking about visiting La Chica Lounge.

Yes, I was last month. It takes a little walk if it is public transport, 600 meters from the nearest station or 7-8 minutes walk, nothing terrible.

I also do not know the German language, but when I went to the salon, all of them from receptionists to the present girls spoke English, not fluid but quite enough. An excellent salon, good care for guests, a pleasant feeling.

I was with a girl named Alexandra, real pictures, very nice girl, half an hour without any complaints (e70+ 10 for egg licking), natural service (AO) possible but I did not ask. After some sex with rubber, I took off a condom and she continue with oral, then I finish on her breast. I did not know that other possibilities were available, although she asked me. And you can get almost everything you want with the right supplement.

What I think is a bit expensive, but fair. Much better options than going to cheap studios where you do not get a fairly decent service.

Recommendation, yes.

Would I come again, yes.

[Liuliqiao]

I live in a place where sex for money is illegal. So, Vienna is a sex heaven for me.

Luckily, I found opportunities to visit Vienna a couple of times during the past several years. I have treasured my each visit.

I only visited Golden Time each time. However, Most girls were rush and hurried me to finish in 10 minutes, although I had good experience a couple of times.

I just could not figure out which lady would provide good service before go into the room.

I will visit Vienna for a few days.

Could someone please recommend escort agencies. I plan to have ladies to come over to my hotel and hope to have better experience this way.

Many thanks.

[Massimo Potente]

I'm wondering if anyone knows why Penelope is shown both on the Maxim and Peepshow Burggasse site at the same time. I remember she used to work in Peepshow about a month ago and now she appeared on the website again, while still being on the Maxim site. Does anyone have any ideas why this is the case?

The girl I'm talking about: https://maxim-wien.com/all-girls/penelope.

She is currently at Maxim.

By now they seem to also have removed the pictures of her from the Peepshow.

[Arnold15]

Not that it matters that much but I also think that the girls now pay a higher entry fee than they used to before the switch to the coupon system.

90 is higher than at GT and the amount that I was familiar with before was 70. But again, it really isn't that important in my opinion.

Yes, FP increased the entry fee for the girls from 70 to 90 Euro.

But that occurred when the club was bleeding money with the old system. Thus, before the coupon system was introduced.

[MonSooner]

Does anyone have any ideas why this is the case?

The girl I'm talking about: https://maxim-wien.com/all-girls/penelope.

I know she is an indecisive one for sure. She also told me that she likes all the places she worked at and maybe wants to switch from time to time. If the club's don't mind, no harm is done. She listed at the P.S. But with a day off. Means she probably is at Maxim right now.

[Zorp 001]

I'm wondering if anyone knows why Penelope is shown both on the Maxim and Peepshow Burggasse site at the same time. I remember she used to work in Peepshow about a month ago and now she appeared on the website again, while still being on the Maxim site. Does anyone have any ideas why this is the case?

The girl I'm talking about: https://maxim-wien.com/all-girls/penelope.

[Triptogamont]

Thanks for the 2 reports. I have been researching Vienna here and on a German board. Julia was one I was considering. Did you have any trouble with language? Webpage says little German. I know Naturservice mit Reinspritzen means AO and I tried to translate on google, came out as Natural service with clean spray. Keeps the reports coming. Are you trying any of the Asian places, such as http://www.studio-jasmin.at? Price seems good at those but many German board reports of mostly fake pics and much older ladies.

Julia speaks very little English and only a little bit of German. I know enough German to get what I want, so it worked out ok. But there was no way to chat before or after. Yes, Naturservice = AO. Mit Reinspritzen = CIP. Julia looked good, but her service was average. I had more fun with Antonia, but again, her service was good, not great.

I was only in Vienna a few days and only had the chance to go have some fun those two times. If I had more time, I probably would have checked out Studio Relaxe and La Chica Lounge, but they were a bit harder for me to get to, involving longer you-bahn trips. I tend to steer clear of Asian places in the US and Europe, for exactly the reasons you specify. Good luck and enjoy!

[MonSooner]

No, entry fees for girls at FP has not changed. I asked very carefully about this at my last visit.

Before coupon system, girls paid 90 Euro in entry fee.

With new coupon susyem, girls pay also 90 Euro in entry fee.!

Not that it matters that much but I also think that the girls now pay a higher entry fee than they used to before the switch to the coupon system.

90 is higher than at GT and the amount that I was familiar with before was 70. But again, it really isn't that important in my opinion.

[Arnold15]

No, entry fees for girls at FP has not changed. I asked very carefully about this at my last visit.

Before coupon system, girls paid 90 Euro in entry fee.

With new coupon susyem, girls pay also 90 Euro in entry fee.

Yes, girls lose 10 Euro for client's first room.

But there are 2-3 times more clients now. So girls are definitely better off.

When James Watt introduced the steam machinery in the 18th century, those ineffcient workers who lost their jobs, called this "disrupting the market". But everyone else understand that this was an innovative idea raising the overall welfare.

The point with the innovative Coupon system at FP is that all three groups (clients, club and girls) at FP have benefitted from the new entry fee system!

I already know it is a mistake to engage in such conversation but hey, I'll try to play along one single time hopefully.

There is no such thing like a "Vienna style coupon". This is an FP idea (not the worst one almost a decade ago to do them monhtly, now it is an everyday thing) which came out of dire straits that they were in. For the longest time they wanted to be and stay a full functioning sauna club with all the mechanics of one including normal entry fee and normal half hour rates and drinks and food plus wellness amenities included. They couldn't maintain it and here we are debating. It was either shutting it down or lowering the price significantly.

Now, I find it far fetched to think that anything like that could "take over" since it is inherently wrong to pay a girl, prostitute, lady, person in coupons. Fair enough, they can exchange them into money, it's all good but of course they lost 10 right there. In addition to that the FP ladies now have to pay a higher entry fee than they ever did before. Fair enough, it is business, so it is all good.

The new entry fee system seems to attract a lot of new ladies which would seem to finally be a contribution that we could see as beneficial but how long do those ladies really stay in FP. There is an increasing number of girls who come to Vienna and start out at FP and Fresh, only waiting to be accepted to work at other clubs. It usually takes a week until they can wander off and so they often do. When you are drowning, keeping your head above the water is a clear success. Long term strategy might be a little more complicated and challenging.

I distance myself from the low-cost comparison made for Pattaya, Phillipines and cantaloupe and melon theories which do not apply to this market.

[Diet Coke]

https://www.studiorelaxe-lounge.at/i...?p=1_206_Julia

Had a little bit of time to kill, so I figured I would try another girl here. I would have liked to try Studio Relaxe and La Chica, but this place was the easiest for me to get to.

I picked Julia out of a lineup of maybe 8 girls for her slim figure and pretty face. Same deal as last time. 70 for a half hour, plus 20 for Naturservice mit Reinspritzen.

She looks just like her pics. Pecks for kisses. BBBJ was average at best. BBFS was good, bit she used a bit too much lube. She's a pretty small girl, so maybe she does that to prevent pain. Made it through the usual positions until I finished CIP in K9. An average session with a pretty girl. I wouldn't repeat.

Thanks for the 2 reports. I have been researching Vienna here and on a German board. Julia was one I was considering. Did you have any trouble with language? Webpage says little German. I know Naturservice mit Reinspritzen means AO and I tried to translate on google, came out as Natural service with clean spray. Keeps the reports coming. Are you trying any of the Asian places, such as http://www.studio-jasmin.at? Price seems good at those but many German board reports of mostly fake pics and much older ladies.

[Triptogamont]

https://www.studiorelaxe-lounge.at/i...?p=1_206_Julia

Had a little bit of time to kill, so I figured I would try another girl here. I would have liked to try Studio Relaxe and La Chica, but this place was the easiest for me to get to.

I picked Julia out of a lineup of maybe 8 girls for her slim figure and pretty face. Same deal as last time. 70 for a half hour, plus 20 for Naturservice mit Reinspritzen.

She looks just like her pics. Pecks for kisses. BBBJ was average at best. BBFS was good, bit she used a bit too much lube. She's a pretty small girl, so maybe she does that to prevent pain. Made it through the usual positions until I finished CIP in K9. An average session with a pretty girl. I wouldn't repeat.

[Pistons]

MP: you didn't really add anything new there though, hehe.

You could have written down the new prices. Aside from that, it seems we agree on everything. Even the coupon system. We just weigh our words differently. So it ends up being just rethorics.

[Triptogamont]

https://www.studiorelaxe-lounge.at/i...=1_187_Antonia

Showed up around 6 pm on a weekday. Rang the bell and got buzzed in. Walked down a small flight of stairs to a desk and a small room with girls sitting in lingerie. Maybe six girls stood up in the main room to form a lineup for me. I chose Antonia based on nice body shape and smile. She's older in the face than what is on the website, bit otherwise pics are accurate.

She led me to a room and I asked about Naturservice. She said it would be 20€ extra, just like it says on the website. I paid for a half hour, so 90€ total and she left the room. It was a small room with a bed and a standup shower. I got naked and would have gotten in the shower, bit there were no towels. She came back in a couple of minutes and gave me a towel. I took a quick shower while we chatted and she put a sheet on the bed. Her English is pretty good so it was easy to talk with her.

Onto the bed where we kissed lightly. Really just pecks, so no DFK. She has absolutely fantastic skin. Super smooth and silky. I loved running my hands over her the entire time. She started a decent BBBJ. Good with her tongue, but no eye contact. I had her get on top for some CG. My hands and mouth all over her breasts, which are very nice. And that skin! Flipped for mish. Flipped again for K9. Finished with a nice CIP.

We relaxed and talked for a while afterward. Both showered. She didn't seem to be in any rush. Got a hug and a kiss and was out the door in maybe 35-40 minutes total.

I guess it's sort of like an RTC session in NRW. Only twice as expensive, if you include entry fees at RTCs. I don't think you hang out there for any length of time. Just get in and out. I could be wrong.

[MonSooner]

Might make sense to try understand what the girls want. Much like many of us, some ladies will prefer a smaller number of good (comfortable, easy and profitable) sessions. If possible paid cash and not paper. Even if at the end of the day sometimes more money can be made with the coupons, this might also mean more headache. We all speak to the ladies regularly. They are torn, there is no clear verdict whether this is a curse or the remedy. But I think generosity is going to be scoring points with them always.

[Massimo Potente]

Heh, Artemis seems to fall due it lack of local competition actually. While the clubs that has more local competition is thriving.

If any coupon system would start to take over, it would need to be like the Macau sauna coupons. Not the Vienna style coupons. And I only see this happening if Germany and Austria removes physical currency and goes all digital.

I am not up to date on the cost at FP, but calling this game low cost in Vienna these days is in best case a distortion of truth. Low cost is Philippines or pattaya where you can bang a girl for 15 euro by having her come to your hotel. 150-200 for one session, entry cost included. As it is now at GT Vienna, it is ten times what I consider low cost. But of course, numbers are arbitrary. And humans normally compares one price to a price elsewhere of the same good.

Say you buy a flawless Yubari melon at a market in Japan, 1000 usd can sometimes be considered cheap. But if you see a cantaloupe melon in your local Aldi for 1000 usd, you double check your eyes to see if there is a comma in there.

I already know it is a mistake to engage in such conversation but hey, I'll try to play along one single time hopefully.

There is no such thing like a "Vienna style coupon". This is an FP idea (not the worst one almost a decade ago to do them monhtly, now it is an everyday thing) which came out of dire straits that they were in. For the longest time they wanted to be and stay a full functioning sauna club with all the mechanics of one including normal entry fee and normal half hour rates and drinks and food plus wellness amenities included. They couldn't maintain it and here we are debating. It was either shutting it down or lowering the price significantly.

Now, I find it far fetched to think that anything like that could "take over" since it is inherently wrong to pay a girl, prostitute, lady, person in coupons. Fair enough, they can exchange them into money, it's all good but of course they lost 10 right there. In addition to that the FP ladies now have to pay a higher entry fee than they ever did before. Fair enough, it is business, so it is all good.

The new entry fee system seems to attract a lot of new ladies which would seem to finally be a contribution that we could see as beneficial but how long do those ladies really stay in FP. There is an increasing number of girls who come to Vienna and start out at FP and Fresh, only waiting to be accepted to work at other clubs. It usually takes a week until they can wander off and so they often do. When you are drowning, keeping your head above the water is a clear success. Long term strategy might be a little more complicated and challenging.

I distance myself from the low-cost comparison made for Pattaya, Phillipines and cantaloupe and melon theories which do not apply to this market.