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  1. #3316
    Quote Originally Posted by NimbleMonkey  [View Original Post]
    Thanks Massimo. Do you think there is a difference in the quality of girls in Babylon which charges the premium vs Maxim and GT?
    Is there such a thing as quality of girls? They are all the same quality but work in different clubs for differenf reasons.

    The fact that girls in FKKs are now starting to charge 100 and don't really want to do 60 sessions anymore should be indicative to how they think about the quality of clients coming. It's a never ending problem. Price discussions won't get us very far, I think.

  2. #3315
    Quote Originally Posted by NimbleMonkey  [View Original Post]
    Thanks Massimo. Do you think there is a difference in the quality of girls in Babylon which charges the premium vs Maxim and GT?
    There was once was a difference but nowadays there isn't a difference anymore.

    Pistons. 500 for an hour, 700 for 2 hours I think. Babylon opens at 19:00 and closes at 04:00 but other than GT they will party on if the right people are inside. Same for Maxim.

    There are way more people than you think who feel uncomfortable in Saunaclubs. Others think it is beneath them and others are / feel too important to be seen in an open place like an FKK. And others don't want to be in a robe or towel and others don't want to be or look the same like every other normal guy but rather wants to stick out. And some people just want to spend money and show it and brag. And some people don't want to be with a girl who has already fucked a bunch of other guys. And others don't want to be seen walking in and out of the room doing the walk of shame. And others don't want to watch another guy doing the walk of shame. And the list goes on.

    I think Austrian places like Babylon, Maxim, Casabianca, Carisma in Graz don't ever need to fear FKKs threatening their existence. The FKKs are having a tough time as it is with getting it right and many of them never find the right price and method to be profitable. Good examples are Paradise in Graz, Funpalast in Vienna (had to cut the entry fee almost all together) and Fresh club. They don't get it right and don't even understand why the heck they don't.

    As for the deal you are getting for 700. Others will maybe not be that lucky and will be charged a whole lot more. And generally I wouldn't recommend taking girls out of the clubs (without paying the club as well in some form) unless you are a pro at it and know how to deal and conceal it. If you do that in the wrong club and management gets wind of it, this will definitely end the girl's career in that club and your privilege to enter the place. It is not a recommended strategy if you ask me. Especially Wellcum will not hesitate to ban that girl instantly taking away the chance of making thousand and tens of thousands in the future. I am sure you know your stuff but don't make this sound enticing to non-experienced mongers as if it was an easy thing to pull off. This can easily blow up in your face in many ways.

    There are escort agencies and there are FKKs and there are stripclub / brothel types of location and there are the so-called elite sex nightclub places and there are the crappy dump-like studios all of which have their place in the scene. I don't think that we have to philosophically question why they exist and why whales like to spend money openly and excessively.

  3. #3314
    OK, but how many hours is a club like Babylon open? And why pay 700 for one hour when I sometimes get offers from the best ever FKK girls to have them for an entire day of 10 or 12 hours for 700 euro total? (I even got this offer from a Wellcum girl. She said 10 hours.) ok, I may be able to fuck 4 or 5 times in that period. So that is a hell of a deal if I am in the mood and feel good on the wallet. Why would I ever consider a place like Babylon? Or even Maxim for that matter?

  4. #3313
    Quote Originally Posted by MassimoPotente  [View Original Post]
    GT, Maxim and Babylon are without a doubt the most profitable places in Vienna by a landslide and that is because they don't go the budget route.

    It's for sure because of the "whales" who might compensate particularly the girls for lower visitor numbers. Of course neither Babylon nor Maxim have visitor counts like the FKKs do. It's a different experience and deal all together. For the girls just as much as it is for the clients. All 3 clubs are doing very well in their domain.
    Thanks Massimo. Do you think there is a difference in the quality of girls in Babylon which charges the premium vs Maxim and GT?

  5. #3312
    Quote Originally Posted by MonSooner  [View Original Post]
    Who knows that for sure. But they certainly can attract more high profile clients. I suppose Massimo meant to say that the club is easily more profitable than cheaper places in that more money can be made with whales.
    GT, Maxim and Babylon are without a doubt the most profitable places in Vienna by a landslide and that is because they don't go the budget route.

    It's for sure because of the "whales" who might compensate particularly the girls for lower visitor numbers. Of course neither Babylon nor Maxim have visitor counts like the FKKs do. It's a different experience and deal all together. For the girls just as much as it is for the clients. All 3 clubs are doing very well in their domain.

  6. #3311
    Quote Originally Posted by Pistons  [View Original Post]
    Do these girls actually get rooms every day? Or how is the visitor numbers at Babylon?
    Who knows that for sure. But they certainly can attract more high profile clients. I suppose Massimo meant to say that the club is easily more profitable than cheaper places in that more money can be made with whales.

  7. #3310
    Quote Originally Posted by MassimoPotente  [View Original Post]
    They earn more money than places that can only ask cheap prices.
    Do these girls actually get rooms every day? Or how is the visitor numbers at Babylon?

  8. #3309
    Quote Originally Posted by CarExpert  [View Original Post]
    Hi guys,

    Do any of you guys know of ladies in GT will to get cum on face?
    Most of them for some kind of extra payment. But I don't which girls are actually present at the moment.

  9. #3308

    Gt cof?

    Hi guys,

    Do any of you guys know of ladies in GT will to get cum on face?

  10. #3307
    Quote Originally Posted by NimbleMonkey  [View Original Post]
    That is a shit load of . How are they still in biz?
    Quite self-explanatory, don't you think?

  11. #3306
    Quote Originally Posted by NimbleMonkey  [View Original Post]
    How are they still in biz?
    They earn more money than places that can only ask cheap prices.

  12. #3305
    Quote Originally Posted by MassimoPotente  [View Original Post]
    I'd rather expect 1 hour 500 and 2 hour 700. You don't "get back" the enty fee. It is waived.
    Thanks Massimo. I think I understand their business model now.

  13. #3304
    Quote Originally Posted by MassimoPotente  [View Original Post]
    I'd rather expect 1 hour 500 and 2 hour 700. You don't "get back" the enty fee. It is waived.
    That is a shit load of €€€€€. How are they still in biz?

  14. #3303
    Quote Originally Posted by Itponaus  [View Original Post]
    This is my interpretation, because I was not yet in Babylon in Vienna, Salzburg or Klagenfurt. I hope that Sybarite2006, MonSooner or someone else will confirm or deny it:

    Entry fee is 100. The first half an hour is 400 and every next half an hour is 100.

    If a guest will go to a room for the first hour, will pay 500 (400+100), but will get back entry fee 100. Total cost will be 400. For two hours in a room total cost would be 400+200 = 600.
    I'd rather expect 1 hour 500 and 2 hour 700. You don't "get back" the enty fee. It is waived.

  15. #3302

    Feedback.

    Hi all,

    I spent few days in Wien, and like everyone I tried the GT. It is a good one, but the admission fee was is still a barrier.

    I kept searching and I have learnt the game in Wien is made by "Studios" I tried this one:"studio relaxe".

    I looked at the models profils, I wrote an email, they replied promptly so then I booked a session with a models.

    Standar prices is 100 euros for 60 minutes BBJ. Basicaly the services are mentioned in the description.

    I have learn there is a particularity in Vienna, you could have sex without codom but it requieres a medicinal reviews for the 2 parts.

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