Vienna

[Sherdogbrasa]

I'm visiting Vienna and Salzburg the first week of May. I want to make the most of this trip, what's the best value here? To put a bar on it, I think 100 euros for 30 min for covered BJ and sex is great to me coming from the states. It sounds like GT can be pricier but worth the experience once?

[Tintin1]

Aparently this question is never getting old.

Thanks for indulging me. I got the overall idea of the clubs, but I was trying to get more of the vibe of the actual visit. I was imaging it more like a US strip club where the girls hounded you for drinks if you didn't "take them" up on the sex side of things. And yes, I get the overall scheme. ALso appreciate the detail of Shark's reply.

Personally I found GT fun, overpriced, but fun. Loved going to the massage place A Time for You (even if a bit out of town. I keep hoping PeepShow will reopen. Will be hitting Mystic again soon. A small Salzburg club but on the night I went, had enough ladies that were attractive to my standards. (Maybe my standards are too low?

[BbfsOnly]

At those rates what's the point of visiting GT?

A lot of this is desperation, they are trying to make there money back from entrance fee and boarding fees.

[BbfsOnly]

At those rates what's the point of visiting GT?

Exactly! These girls are charging these rates because they have made nothing all day, or the fact they are pretty, and hoping for someone to be suckered.

I can only say I been there, and that is would be the last. A lot of woman did not room.

[Massimo Potente]

The very survival of GT seems reliant as more of a novelty for tourist who enjoy the convenience of quantity within a short timeframe. I'm out of ideas as to why visit GT. Food is average. Facilities are minimal. Rest locations are near non existent. All that at an Entry cost of +30% more than 30 minutes studio booking with a girl elsewhere in Vienna.

I'm curious as to the reason forum mongers still visit GT. Am I missing something?

I think it is as simple as: "FKK or nothing" for some international sex travellers. Since German FKKs are very different in price structure compared to GT Vienna these days, this is a take it or leave it situation. Yeah, it was better once. Right now it is rather expensive compared to Germany's FKKs. I don't think GT's existance is in any danger. The concept is still good. They just don't have a grasp on their girls' prices at the moment.

[Aoctenisan]

While GT doesn't, in fact, have any credible competition in Vienna, I'd suggest they have indirect competition that they are ignoring for one reason or another. Some points:

- Those of us seeking consenting adult activity in Vienna do not place German-style FKKs on the top of most of our lists. (As far as I know, there is nothing in Austrian law that would inhibit FKKs to flourish in Austria the way they do in Germany.) So, it's a demand issue rather than a supply issue. If there was a demand for more than GT-FP-Fresh in Vienna, more would open to support the demand. Then, there would be direct competition to be the best.

- GT's competition is indirect with all the other sex businesses in Vienna, even the really expensive places like Babylon. GT's competition should result in GT management doing what they can to secure more of the market share.

- If I were GT's CEO, I would be concerned that sauna clubs would become so far down on the list of "go-to" sex establishments that its very survivability would be in question. If they do nothing, they may open their doors someday and there will be nobody waiting outside wanting to come in.

So, I'd suggest that GT's real competition are all the other ways that guys can buy sex in Vienna for a much better return on investment.

The very survival of GT seems reliant as more of a novelty for tourist who enjoy the convenience of quantity within a short timeframe. I'm out of ideas as to why visit GT. Food is average. Facilities are minimal. Rest locations are near non existent. All that at an Entry cost of +30% more than 30 minutes studio booking with a girl elsewhere in Vienna.

I'm curious as to the reason forum mongers still visit GT. Am I missing something?

[Max #01]

I hope and believe that GT will pick itself up out of this slump in which it is right now. How they'll manage to do so, I don't know yet. The fact, as you also stated clearly and correctly, that they have no local FKK competition nearby is their big plus. But right now, the prices are out of control. I agree with you.

While GT doesn't, in fact, have any credible competition in Vienna, I'd suggest they have indirect competition that they are ignoring for one reason or another. Some points:

- Those of us seeking consenting adult activity in Vienna do not place German-style FKKs on the top of most of our lists. (As far as I know, there is nothing in Austrian law that would inhibit FKKs to flourish in Austria the way they do in Germany.) So, it's a demand issue rather than a supply issue. If there was a demand for more than GT-FP-Fresh in Vienna, more would open to support the demand. Then, there would be direct competition to be the best.

- GT's competition is indirect with all the other sex businesses in Vienna, even the really expensive places like Babylon. GT's competition should result in GT management doing what they can to secure more of the market share.

- If I were GT's CEO, I would be concerned that sauna clubs would become so far down on the list of "go-to" sex establishments that its very survivability would be in question. If they do nothing, they may open their doors someday and there will be nobody waiting outside wanting to come in.

So, I'd suggest that GT's real competition are all the other ways that guys can buy sex in Vienna for a much better return on investment.

[Aoctenisan]

I got quoted from 2 girls! One for 250 and another for 300! I had to pass!

At those rates what's the point of visiting GT?

[BbfsOnly]

From what I have read on this forum, the pricing at GT is outrageous and totally unjustifiable. We are talking about more than Globe prices for what I am sure is inferior service. There is a long discussion about how the prices in Switzerland have fallen dramatically during the last decade, post Covid developments notwithstanding. Don't get me wrong, I absolutely love Vienna it is one my favorite cities on the planet, but with prices like this I don't see how this club can remain viable. For old times sake I visited the club during May 2022 just for a research trip and I spoke to the girls and did not go with any of them. I was at GT Linz which was fine price wise but the girls are not as hot to say the least.

I don't think there is enough of a market in Vienna for this price level despite the fact that GT has no real local competitors. Anyhow the prices are up in Funpalast as well, last time I was there was 2019. In Germany the prices are up but they are not out of control and there is some logic to the new pricing, one can frequently get 60 minutes full service for 150 Euros. I don't see how this club can do well given the prices.

Will prices inevitably creep downward or stabilize at a reasonable level? I would love to hear the opinion of locals on this question?

I got quoted from 2 girls! One for 250 and another for 300! I had to pass!

[BbfsOnly]

Have never been to Maxim's. Curious if the girls continually bother you to buy them drinks or if you can relax and enjoy the view and eventually chose a partner. In other words is this more FKK style or closer to a bordello / private club.

Its more like a bar, girls will ask you once, and leave you alone if you don't buy them a drink. You basically buy a bottle and they sit with you till the bottle is done.

Most girls are very nice and do not yell to tell you to go home. I think the owner put some manners in to them. All the girls were very cordial.

I rather fuck than buy a bottle, I asked 3 girls, they refuse to do BBJ, one girl said she will decide once we room, of course I said no to her. It was Adele, the girl with braces.

Not falling for games.

One girl told me she is broke, which I find surprising as I never met any girls admitting they are broke. Appreciate the honesty.

I prefer to reserve my money on Russians, Polish, Germans, Austrians, etc.

Since I am buying, I may as well get what I want. They is nothing wrong with Romanians, but they are my last choice.

[Intelligencium]

Hi,

Am coming to VIE next month. Have contacted a girl from Seeking, but have not discuused finances -- as she doesn't want to.

She will be available when I in over there -- for about 7 days -- of course, I will take care of all costs, shopping etc.

What is the appropriate donation -- in this scenario (iunderstand it can vary -- but what's appropriate in WEIN).

Thanks.

Hello! What did you end up doing? I am in similar situation and would appreciate any help!

[Shark16]

Have never been to Maxim's. Curious if the girls continually bother you to buy them drinks or if you can relax and enjoy the view and eventually chose a partner. In other words is this more FKK style or closer to a bordello / private club.

Maxim is a neither a bordello nor a FKK club, but a night club / bar. Which means:

- It is not open in daytime, and does not get going before, say ... 10 pm?
- You mingle with girls and gents in the bar.
- The girls are nicely dressed (no nudity).
- Needless to say there are no spa facilities (except for showers in the private rooms of course). Some of the private rooms have jacuzzis.
- There is no food (but plenty of restaurants in the neighbourhood).
- There is a strip pole at Maxim's. I am not quite sure how many of the girls that will dance / strip, or at what time. When they do, it is definitively a good time to evaluate the options.
- No entrance fee, and you can hang around as long as you wish.

Regarding the last point. While it is true that you can hang around as long as you wish for free, it is expected that you buy a drink yourself and to a lady of your interest. This is how the club earn money. If you don't, the attention from the girls will be absolutely zero after 45- 60 mnts. You will quickly become bored and leave, trust me.

One small detail: When you buy a girl a drink, she will stay with you for like 15- 20 mnts. You can ask her anything about what you desire. In fact, SHE will definitively interview YOU about what you are looking for (type of girl, service demands, prices). Pay attention, as she will probably suggest girls that will meet your service demands (if she herself cannot provide them). If you indicate that you are interested in a particular girl, you can be certain it won't take long before she is sitting on your lap. The girl will make sure.

So definitively buy a girl a drink at places like Maxime's.

ps. I just saw that El Maestro Massimo already has answered Tintin's query. My apologies for doubling up.

[Massimo Potente]

Have never been to Maxim's. Curious if the girls continually bother you to buy them drinks or if you can relax and enjoy the view and eventually chose a partner. In other words is this more FKK style or closer to a bordello / private club.

Aparently this question is never getting old.

Maxim is the polar opposite of FKK style. There is no entry fee, people are dressed and not in bathrobe, there is no spa or sauna area. It is a sexbar with occasional strippers dancing to present themselves. Girls will not constantly bother but they will obviously ask for drinks because this is just how it is in Sexbars and how it has been in Austria since the beginning of time. In Austria FKKs are the anomaly and not the norm which is why you can't compare the German FKK scenery to Austria at all.

Delta Indigo.

I hope and believe that GT will pick itself up out of this slump in which it is right now. How they'll manage to do so, I don't know yet. The fact, as you also stated clearly and correctly, that they have no local FKK competition nearby is their big plus. But right now, the prices are out of control. I agree with you.

[Tintin1]

I found a Polish girl name Suzy last night! Met the owner, nice guy. Said she is not here very often when I sat next her.

150 included BJ without condom, gave her 50 more for CIM. I went twice with her, her service was outstanding! No problem kissing a frog like me.

You can pay the girt via credit card, but cash for extras, as the house takes half. Beers are between 10-12.

You got lucky by coincidence to meet Susy at all. She is still not on the website of Maxim. Apparently because her schedule is so erratic and she rarely works. Without the staff letting me know about her I personally wouldn't even have met her yet because she seems to prefer to work on Sundays or Mondays over other days of the week.

Have never been to Maxim's. Curious if the girls continually bother you to buy them drinks or if you can relax and enjoy the view and eventually chose a partner. In other words is this more FKK style or closer to a bordello / private club.

[Delta Indigo]

Some GT girls really push it to the next level. On my visit on Thursday, one girl there. Who wasn't the hottest and in her early 30's. Actually admitted that she won't do an hour for less than 300 euros. The reason being that there aren't many clients anymore at GT, so she upgraded herself and the prices because of. Reasons or market balance or whatever. Very empty during the day, but many girls are sitting around playing with their phones. In the evening hours, it is getting better, but the girls can only survive by massively overcharging, it seems.

The next horror problem is obvious if you pay a little attention. Some room sessions last just 5 minutes, and judging by the looks on the guys' faces sometimes. You can figure it out yourself what that means.

Rooms under 100 euros are impossible, and everything below 150 won't be pleasant. While I did 3 rooms on average years ago, these days I can only afford one, and it is getting exceedingly annoying to watch the trend.

From what I have read on this forum, the pricing at GT is outrageous and totally unjustifiable. We are talking about more than Globe prices for what I am sure is inferior service. There is a long discussion about how the prices in Switzerland have fallen dramatically during the last decade, post Covid developments notwithstanding. Don't get me wrong, I absolutely love Vienna it is one my favorite cities on the planet, but with prices like this I don't see how this club can remain viable. For old times sake I visited the club during May 2022 just for a research trip and I spoke to the girls and did not go with any of them. I was at GT Linz which was fine price wise but the girls are not as hot to say the least.

I don't think there is enough of a market in Vienna for this price level despite the fact that GT has no real local competitors. Anyhow the prices are up in Funpalast as well, last time I was there was 2019. In Germany the prices are up but they are not out of control and there is some logic to the new pricing, one can frequently get 60 minutes full service for 150 Euros. I don't see how this club can do well given the prices.

Will prices inevitably creep downward or stabilize at a reasonable level? I would love to hear the opinion of locals on this question?