Vienna

[Delta Indigo]

Last time I went to Goldentime I had a less than stellar experience, but this can happen. What I did find from a recent visit to Artemis in Berlin is that Oral without condom is mandatory and in fact that is true of almost all German FKKs, FKK Konstanz in Imperia is an exception to this rule.

But at Goldentime quite a few girls do not do this, not many but around 15% I would say. Why do Austrian FKKs offer lower standards of service than German ones?

[Howie]

Nice piece of reporting there StarletVoyager.

How would you rate your experience at GT Vienna versus the other clubs in Germany that you visited during this trip?

Moreover, what would be the ranking from best to worst in terms of girls for all the clubs that you have visited so far?

Howie

[StarletVoyager]

On touching down at vienna intl I was totally focused on getting into gt as soon as practically possible. A quick cab down the autobahn in addition to a quick shower at the delta hotel sonnwendgasse str. And I found myself in a taxi outside gt. I had no idea what to expect as tallied up against former german clubs but on seeing the multitude of cars parked and the bright goldentime lights and I knew I could not go wrong here. The facilities were nice just missing a whirlpool which is so helpful in eliminating jet lag even though a 2 hr 30 min flight with all the pre flight logisitics still takes it out on me. This was Wednesday night and I still saw a plethora of gazelles with amazing bodies but with only 3/4 faces that did it for me. Its all about the face for me I've always been that way. Some of the gazelles looked sad due to low men turn out and slow business. I did my best to cheer them up with my funny humour which sometimes went appreciated sometimes not. Overall I firmly liked this club and would return anyday. Day 1 was a cim with blonde lovely almost slightly goofy daria from rum or bugaria can't quite remember. Plenty of 69'ing kissing etc but I wanted cim debut and got it. Second was a half turkish half rumanish lovely greenish eyes 1 hour with a hard doggy style and she really bucked and pushed back hard. Very enjoyable. I always do 1 hour sessions as its more relaxed for me and her I feel.

Friday was another lovely rumanian with that next door all natural look. She constantly tried to upsell in the room but I wasn't going to budge an inch and went along with this dreary routine but really nailed it to her hard at the end as she moaned in pleasure. I was the king and I had the last word here!!LOL. Apart from the constant bird shit upselling routine she was delectable. Number two hour session for Friday was my my highlight for gt. Again her name escapes me, she is rumanian but has some persian blood in the lineage and it clearly showed and shined through for me. A lovely complexion, a lovely session, dfk and a lovely doggy styler position finish. Excuse me with the names I'm struggling a bit here. Anyway on Friday late ended up in a nightclub called passage full of hoorah henries but I did my best to show them how to dance properly.

I returned on Sunday for my last hour session with I think brunette long wavy haired v____(better mention no names). She offered me a selection of extras including sex ohne for 60 which I thought was wrong weird and also rare in these clubs. I took her up on the offer bit of a sweaty minge but did her hard bareback. There was somin nice going on here as my luck would have it. She commenced deep dfk on entering the zimmer without prompting hence finalising my business in vienna.

A taxi ride around the danube and saw the UN buildings and a stroll at Sunday night down to the famous loos american bar and vienna was truly done for me. Shattered the next day on the train to frankfurt!!LOL. 5 hours with girls at gt overall// 7/10 for girls overall//would repeat vienna even if slightly costly. Continued in oase thread. Thanks to all for help here.

[Howie]

Anyway I'm using the internet terminal in gt right now so must bring this to a close. Full reports on return. Laters sv.

Hey StarletVoyager,

Whatever happened to your GT Vienna mega reports that you promised? Did you post them?

Howie

[Xtof2001]

Hi,

Thanks DrMarko for the nice report.

I'll be in Vienna, so was thinking about contacting Kristina.

Can you detail where she can be found?

Thanks

Long after having Kristina visit me in Belgrade in March (I wrote about that in Bratislava forum) , I was thinking of our next meeting. It was her tight ass and pussy, and a drooling mouth that kept my dick in erection during past couple of weeks.

Fortunately, last week I got scheduled a business trip to Vienna. Since she is available in Vienna as well, I arranged a meeting with her in my hotel.

She showed up, dressed in high heels and a mini skirt, showing her great firm legs and shaped ass. I am more of a fan of big tits, but her bottom really needs to be appreciated.

We opened a bottle of champagne, and then took a shower...

[Massimo Potente]

Laufhauses may not be the future, but they are here to stay. It doesn't matter what the guys want, its what the girls want. Although many women will like FKK settings, the really hot women will want to be independent contractors. They want the freedom to come and go as they please, to not be watched over by FKK owners, who I am guessing sometimes shady characters. They don't want their behavior monitored. They want the freedom to choose their clients.

What you say is true in the sense that this is what the girls want sometimes. However most Laufhauses are not here to stay because they do not have enough business in Vienna's saturated market. There are merely 3 or 4 Laufhauses that have business and the rest are irrelevant.

I disagree with the statement of FKK owners being shady. In Vienna the girls are treated very well in most FKKs. All 4 Vienna FKKs have Austrian owners and management as far as I have heard.

[Manny51]

The increase of the entry to 90 almost a year ago might be the biggest reason for the low client count this year.
LV or Laufhauses in general for that matter are not the future of punting IMHO. LV exist for roughly 2 years now and for sure have already lost some of their glory. Are being slashed in the forums regularly. The trend is going to go away from Laufhauses again, I am sure. They have exhausted the system, there are too many of them and no demand. Supply of girls yes, demand from the clients? Not really, only if it cheap and without taboo. This is not going down well to self respecting ladies.

My prediction: Goldentime will decrease the effective number of girls as a reaction to the decreasing number of people coming in. Like that they can make the ratio OK again and then girls will start to make OK money again.

Laufhauses may not be the future, but they are here to stay. It doesn't matter what the guys want, its what the girls want. Although many women will like FKK settings, the really hot women will want to be independent contractors. They want the freedom to come and go as they please, to not be watched over by FKK owners, who I am guessing sometimes shady characters. They don't want their behavior monitored. They want the freedom to choose their clients.

[Miglos]

Hello,

I am a college student in Vienna for a day or two. I have nothing in the way of sexual experience (I never bothered with social events in college or before) and I feel it is due time for me to acquire some. I am very concerned with cleanliness and hygiene, and wanted to ask if anyone knew of a place in Vienna suitable for some of this kind of background? I've looked into Laufthaus Vienna and Golden Time as I've read that they are popular or reputable.

[Letni]

The increase of the entry to 90 almost a year ago might be the biggest reason for the low client count this year. They can only pull it off because the other FKKs are no match to them, that is the truth. I have heard that Funpalast is starting to be a bit better at the moment but I am not so sure if that is going to last long. I know too much about, I heard too much from former girls working there. You can still have a good time there as well, definitely but you are much saver FKK wise to go to GT.

LV or Laufhauses in general for that matter are not the future of punting IMHO. LV exist for roughly 2 years now and for sure have already lost some of their glory. Are being slashed in the forums regularly. The trend is going to go away from Laufhauses again, I am sure. They have exhausted the system, there are too many of them and no demand. Supply of girls yes, demand from the clients? Not really, only if it cheap and without taboo. This is not going down well to self respecting ladies.

I was just in Vienna and I went to the Laufhaus on Juchgasse. It is true that the sex was a bit mechanical compared to private appartments in Prague, for example, but still given the complete reliance on Romanian girls at GT I still prefer Laufhauses. For less than the price of entry at GT I had a huge variety of choice. I did not talk to every girl, but there were girls from Slovakia, Spain (2), Hungary (2), Italy, an Asian, Austria, Brazil, Romania, Russia, etc. I would not mind paying the entry to GT if I really would experience some class, but relying completely on girls from the poorest EU country makes it seem cheap to me. Again, I have nothing against Romanian girls. The one at Juchgasse was very pretty and if I stayed longer I would have certainly tried her. But if a FKK is going to charge a high entrance fee then it should give a feeling of luxury and this also means providing some variety. If I only wanted Romanian women I could go to Romania. And since all the Laufhäuser offer variety, there is no reason why the more expensive FKK cannot offer some variety. The Laufhäuser prove that women from all over the world are willing to work in Vienna, so the FKKs just need to put some effort into recruiting them.

[Massimo Potente]

And if GT is the best, I wouldn't want to go any lower than that. At least not for 90 Euro! Sorry about the emphasis. I just think that entry price is insane. The only reason they can charge that is because they are effectively the only FKK in the area worth going to.

The increase of the entry to 90 almost a year ago might be the biggest reason for the low client count this year. They can only pull it off because the other FKKs are no match to them, that is the truth. I have heard that Funpalast is starting to be a bit better at the moment but I am not so sure if that is going to last long. I know too much about, I heard too much from former girls working there. You can still have a good time there as well, definitely but you are much saver FKK wise to go to GT.

Walk around the LV, the future of punting. If I was a working girl, I would rather be at GT than LV.

LV or Laufhauses in general for that matter are not the future of punting IMHO. LV exist for roughly 2 years now and for sure have already lost some of their glory. Are being slashed in the forums regularly. The trend is going to go away from Laufhauses again, I am sure. They have exhausted the system, there are too many of them and no demand. Supply of girls yes, demand from the clients? Not really, only if it cheap and without taboo. This is not going down well to self respecting ladies.

My prediction: Goldentime will decrease the effective number of girls as a reaction to the decreasing number of people coming in. Like that they can make the ratio OK again and then girls will start to make OK money again.

[Manny51]

At Manny51.

Very good instructions, this should help people a lot finding their way around town. 2 thumbs up!

I do not agree much with the grade you are giving GT and it is not the only one in town since there are 4 in total. But GT is the best and not really contested by the others. A little by Funpalast but they aren't a real threat either.

I do have to say, though, that business seems to be going south a bit for GT as well. Not only for them, for every other place as well but yesterday it was drastic. It never got full, it started slow and never got into gear at all. Girls were frustrated as Saturdays should be somewhat crowded at least.

I hope we are not seeing a general trend but all in all I am optimistic. It wasn't the best lineup I have seen in GT yesterday, some of the best girls were on vacation or had a day off. It was still ok, I could have easily made 6-7 sessions. The new girls are not that great, though.

LV is good, yes, but also they have seen better times and the attiture that you mention is a result of medium to low business for the girls. And seeing that they do not financially account to anyone (they usually don't in other places either) definitely makes them often lazy and moody. But it is a Laufhaus and if that is what you want then take it or leave it.

I feel like Vienna is still a very good punting destination but I also feel like we are heading directly into a crisis and only the best places will prevail. The really pretty girls are probably shopping elsewhere at the moment.

Thanks for the correction. GT is not the only FKK, but it is the only one that Vienna regulars have ever talked about in a positive fashion. And if GT is the best, I wouldn't want to go any lower than that. At least not for 90 Euro! Sorry about the emphasis. I just think that entry price is insane. The only reason they can charge that is because they are effectively the only FKK in the area worth going to.

I agree that the trend is downward. I saw it throughout Central Europe. Everyone has a smartphone, instantaneous internet access, facebook and chatting. Its inevitable that cutting out the middleman would make sense to some enterprising young women in their twenties. But independent contracting, like communism, makes sense on a theoretical level, but is much worse when actually executed. Walk around the LV, the future of punting. If I was a working girl, I would rather be at GT than LV.

[Massimo Potente]

At Manny51.

Very good instructions, this should help people a lot finding their way around town. 2 thumbs up!

I do not agree much with the grade you are giving GT and it is not the only one in town since there are 4 in total. But GT is the best and not really contested by the others. A little by Funpalast but they aren't a real threat either.

I do have to say, though, that business seems to be going south a bit for GT as well. Not only for them, for every other place as well but yesterday it was drastic. It never got full, it started slow and never got into gear at all. Girls were frustrated as Saturdays should be somewhat crowded at least.

I hope we are not seeing a general trend but all in all I am optimistic. It wasn't the best lineup I have seen in GT yesterday, some of the best girls were on vacation or had a day off. It was still ok, I could have easily made 6-7 sessions. The new girls are not that great, though.

LV is good, yes, but also they have seen better times and the attiture that you mention is a result of medium to low business for the girls. And seeing that they do not financially account to anyone (they usually don't in other places either) definitely makes them often lazy and moody. But it is a Laufhaus and if that is what you want then take it or leave it.

I feel like Vienna is still a very good punting destination but I also feel like we are heading directly into a crisis and only the best places will prevail. The really pretty girls are probably shopping elsewhere at the moment.

[Manny51]

Ok guys, just got back from a Central European swing. I wanted to post some thoughts and advice, but I wasn't sure where to post it. I don't like to post "field reports" as they are classically designed, and I often post in the "General Info" section. But that didn't seem appropriate in the Austria forum, as it would get lost in the other cites, and my info is strictly on Vienna. My advice and reflections are targeted to noobs, and I write information that I would have wanted to know three weeks ago.

After reading the forums, FKK GT and Laufhaus Vienna were pretty much exactly as described. FKK GT is small to medium in size, very similar to FKK Mainhatten in size and scope. It is over 90% Romanian, with everything that comes with that. Experienced punters in Europe should know exactly what to expect. Good or bad, take it for what it is. Many of them sport that "Girl with a Dragon Tattoo" look. It is a very average FKK, notable only for the fact that it is the only one in town. A small swimming pool and sauna, but no whirlpool or hot tub. There is a tanning booth, but you have to pay extra. Laufhaus Vienna is a small apartment complex with 40 small units, each with a different chica. Only about half of them are there at any given time. They pay rent, and are self-employed. As they are accountable to no one, it is reflected in their attitudes. Overall average, but clean and convenient. I think overall that if you view Vienna as a punting destination, you will be disappointed. But if you view it as a tourist destination, with average punting available for any downtime, you'll appreciate it more. LV is the better value. FKK GT has a 90 Euro entry fee (so is only worth it if after a long day of sightseeing you actually want to utilize the pool and sauna facilities and relax.

Now I will post what I wish someone else had posted before I left on my trip how to get to these places. Vienna has a fantastic public transportation system. Its mix of trains, metro, trams, and buses can get you anywhere. The downside is that it is VERY complex. It took me a while to study the map and figure things out. Now that I have, I will lay things out for you. FKK GT and Laufhaus Vienna, the two most popular, and probably best, venues are relatively easy to get to. Laufhaus Rachel, Funpalast are way out of town and not really practical for the average tourist unless you have a car. Maxim is smack in downtown, one block from the famous Opera House. You won't need instructions for that.

First of all, get the City Map put out by the Dept of Tourism. It is the only one big enough to include areas outside of the historic center. It is a good, but complex map, with the tramlines overlayed on the map. Any other map that you may find probably only has the hiistoric center on it. Even if you decide to go to a venue other than the ones I mention, except for Maxim, I guarantee you that they are outside the historic center, so you are going to need the map anyway. The trams are your best way to get around. The metro is fast and useful, but only gets you to certain key areas. Get an appropriate length day pass to save money. If you do tourist stuff too, you'll save money ten times over.

Think of Vienna has two concentric circles. The historic center, the tourist district, is in the middle, bordered by what's called the Ringstrausse. This is the inner circle, and is served by tramlines 1 and 2. The outer circle is called the Gurtel, which separates the middle suburban area from the outer industrial area (or is it the other way around?) It is served by tramline #6 from the geographic region spanning about 3 to 9 oclock, which is what you are interested in, because most of the venues are south of the historic center. LV is at about 7 oclock on the Gurtel. Get off at Matzlendorf stop, and walk south down Treisterstrause (Treister St.) for about a quarter mile and you are there. GT is at about 5 oclock. Get off Tram 6 at Geiereckstrause, and walk north about 50 yards along the highway underpass and you can't miss it. Use the metro to get to to tram 6. U3, the "orange" line, runs East-West. Take it to the 9 o'clock position at Westbahnhof. U1, the "redline," runs north-south and gets you to Reumanplatz, which is the last stop on the line at 6 o'clock. Once you get the map, my instructions will make sense. Trust me.

Have fun!

[Massimo Potente]

What are the costs for the girls at the moment, and what are they including? I know that the entrance is 90 euro. Wow.

Half an hour is still 60. A full hour is still 120. Extras are 60 like CIM and 120 like Anal.

I told you that the lineup is good although it used to be better not too long ago. But that is true for all the places in Vienna at the moment.

[Manny51]

I'm in gt now. Its a mix between one of the large 4 hessen with a hint of mainhatten. So far very good. Did blonde curly haired daria cim Wednesday. Also Wednesday half turkish half rumanian green eyed hotty whose real name I can't disclose for obvious reasons. Fucked her hard doggy style like a horsey and she bucked hard! LOL. Today I went with a moldavian lovely whose name I can't recall tried to upsell alot but finally nailed it to her with her sqeualing in delight. Looking now for my 4th hour in the zimmer target not yet acquired! Anyway I'm using the internet terminal in gt right now so must bring this to a close. Full reports on return. Frankfurt Monday! Laters sv.

What are the costs for the girls at the moment, and what are they including? I know that the entrance is 90 euro. Wow.