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[Takedown]

Recently met a girl at Samya that came from Welcum. 50 Euros extra for kissing she says. She had no rooms the whole night, made no attempts to make any business. She was probably used this this standard at Welcum. That had me thinking with what Takedown said about extra 30 for kissing. Which adds up to 100 Euros for 30 min. I've encountered this at GT Vienna as well. 40 Euros extra for kissing. I guess the upsell is 100 including kissing for half HR in Austria.

Pay a bit more at Globe and you get DFK at Globe with better full on service.

Either way, just a quick money drain.

If comparing 100 euro to 140 Francs, I'the pick Wellcum over Globe, always. It's a better club and has hotter girls at the top end of the line up. I think the legend of Globe optics and service is quite overblown. The FKK poster who touts Globe most often proclaims that he is a "one girl guy" anyway, so that info is obviously lacking in sample size if he is to be taken at his world.

The greatness of Globe is a myth, exaggerated lore. It's a club full of hot bodies, okay faces, and consistently above average service. Wellcum provides better amenities, better food, and hotter top girls. If paying upselling rates, then Wellcum has just as good service for cheaper than Globe rates.

[Takedown]

Kissing for free? LOL. Baby kisses is not real kissing.

Sounds like just bad odds there. Basically, the service sucks there(how do you like that for objective? LOL)

But, was the service good is the question? Was it DFK? Do you know what good service is?

Wellcum is an amenities and optics club. My post was to detail my account of the kissing rates at Wellcum, no more.

I've never had absolutely terrible detached sex doll service at Wellcum. The worst were non kissing ones. The best were absolute honeymoon sex marathons.

I know a bit about good service. Since I am neither a socially awkward and / or physically unattractive monger I tend to get better service than most mongers. YMMV is a common phrase which basically means if one person thinks a girl's service is bad then it might actually be that it was bad for him because the girls finds him physically repulsive.

[MonSooner]

Hello,

Have you ever had a footjob in Wellcum?

If yes, how much extra the girls want for this?

Not that I here had one in Wellcum but that is usually not an extra service to pay for. Should be included. If not then 20-30 max.

[Dupont88]

Hello,

Have you ever had a footjob in Wellcum?

If yes, how much extra the girls want for this?

I think in the range 30/50€.

For example prostate massage quote is that range.

When you go inside start asking the girl interested will came to you don t be shy.

[Sirioja]

Sirioja and PL: how in the world can you both define the service levels at Wellcum when you have not even been with more than 5-6 girls at most? But from my point of view, service levels are abovr GT bruggen.

I won't define the club by average service levels, but I can say that the impression I am getting is that it is a fragmented club. Much like Artemis was in the past before some groups took over and ruined the whole club with their cartel ideas. The danger is that wellcum will turn into this also. The first hint is the reports of 30 e extra for kissing. I hope I won't experience that myself, and that it will die out. The italians over on the ita forum are going nuts about it and discuss trying to stop it constantly. Maybe it is the influx of some overpaying tourists. I hope not.

7 days spent at Wellcum on August 2016 and 2017, 8 girls tried, 1 high GFE level on my last 2016 night, 1 top GFE girl for my 4 days on 2017. When you are at Wellcum for 4 days, girls notice you, ask you if you sleep in the club, ask you if you want to take them for the night. I remember a really beautiful brunette sitting just on the left when entering the lounge, saying not kissing on first day, coming to me on second day telling she was OK to kiss for extra, returning on 3 Road day telling she wanted to go with me and kissing, but then I smelled she didn't have so good breathe and I was married with my Eve. Many girls who came to me, left when I asked about kissing.

I visit GT Bruggen nearly every week end, OK I always go with same girls, like with my Wellcum Eve, because even GT casting is very average compare to last August at Wellcum, but few GT attractive girls for me are high level in bed. GT is for me higher level than LR 2018, in bed. Some new LR girls are very average.

[Darster]

Hello,

Have you ever had a footjob in Wellcum?

If yes, how much extra €€ the girls want for this?

[Pistons]

I am guessing the girl you met at Samya was Irene? She used to work at Oceans, then Samya for maybe a year. She didn't stay more than 2-3 months at Wellcum however. So I believe she didn't pick up much during that time. But maybe she just got carried away by having worked in a more expensive club. Then going back to stinky Samya (downstairs always smells) thinking she could pull the same or even higher price. I also met 2 girls in Germany who came from Wellcum. Both DFK'ed heavily the whole time. It could be random. And it could be a turn for the worse in the whole industry. Lets wait and see.

Poly: Love your ingenuity. May try it one day. Haha.

[PussyLiccker]

Recently met a girl at Samya that came from Welcum. 50 Euros extra for kissing she says. She had no rooms the whole night, made no attempts to make any business. She was probably used this this standard at Welcum. That had me thinking with what Takedown said about extra 30 for kissing. Which adds up to 100 Euros for 30 min. I've encountered this at GT Vienna as well. 40 Euros extra for kissing. I guess the upsell is 100 including kissing for half HR in Austria.

Pay a bit more at Globe and you get DFK at Globe with better full on service.

Either way, just a quick money drain.

[Polyamorist]

Kissing for free? LOL. Baby kisses is not real kissing.

Ya Kharaashy, Honorable Liccker! I had a girl try this on with me recently.

Before the session I had asked her and made sure kissing was included. But when we got to the room she would only do LFK.

What did I do? I just sat there in a comfortable chair. No stress. I'm good at sitting. Not Ghandi-level, but pretty good. Sitting is a poor man's WWE.

She was not so good at sitting. In fact she was going mental, seeing that I would not continue. She was making all sorts of excuses, pointing to her mouth. Apparently she had a mixture of tooth injury, involuntary vomiting, and mouth cancer.

I'm good with that.

Next, she was saying that I was not tender enough and if only I had trust in her and treated her softly, maybe she would feel good enough to kiss during sex.

Not really interested. No Action Required.

She was frantic. Kept on making excuses for five to ten minutes.

Finally she folded. We did real DFK. The funny thing was that she started to get really into it. It was like she was thirsty because she hadn't done DFK in a long time. Which kind of makes sense if she was refusing it to everybody!

What would have happened if she had carried on resisting and nothing happened for the whole thirty minutes? I don't know. But it probably would have gone worse for her than for me. In this FKK they had decent management and a good system where you pay at reception so you always have a chance to mention if something went wrong during the session. Like, um, no sex at all.

But that didn't happen. Actually it was really smoking after the initial modesty was overcome. I think DFK turns a girl on, gets the blood hot. Not to mention the health benefits to both parties I have talked about before.

You might say I lost five to ten minutes of the session. But the session ended up taking thirty-five minutes, and I was not charged extra.

By the way, if you copy my technique and it doesn't work, don't sue me in court. It just means you are in a Class_C FKK. There are some places that are so far gone you can't do anything for them, or for yourself. But you just move on till you find a Class_B and try again. If all guys did this, all FKKs would be Class A.

[Polyamorist]

Yes, but which clubs are purely class a then? And does such clubs have a higher than low optics average?

Well, some people would say the Imperium clubs like Globe are Class A, because DFK is explicitly included in the price. If you don't get it, you have the right to complain and it will matter. Also, the optics are higher than average.

However, I would say they are A-minus because of the heavy control. You can't turn lead into gold by the application of rules. What clubs need to do is filter, not control. (And this implies a wide and diverse application pool. I feel clubs could increase the talent pool a hundred-fold if they would only use their resources to look beyond Romania. They are being lazy. Ya hasrety.).

[Pistons]

Sirioja and PL: how in the world can you both define the service levels at Wellcum when you have not even been with more than 5-6 girls at most? But from my point of view, service levels are abovr GT bruggen.

I won't define the club by average service levels, but I can say that the impression I am getting is that it is a fragmented club. Much like Artemis was in the past before some groups took over and ruined the whole club with their cartel ideas. The danger is that wellcum will turn into this also. The first hint is the reports of 30 e extra for kissing. I hope I won't experience that myself, and that it will die out. The italians over on the ita forum are going nuts about it and discuss trying to stop it constantly. Maybe it is the influx of some overpaying tourists. I hope not.

[Pistons]

Kissing for free? LOL. Baby kisses is not real kissing.

Sounds like just bad odds there. Basically, the service sucks there(how do you like that for objective? LOL)

But, was the service good is the question? Was it DFK? Do you know what good service is?

A good strategy on knowing what good service is, is to go with girls in the room and spend your money 80-20 on girls as opposed to entry fees. 20-80 is objectively a bad strategy on these matters.

[Pistons]

This was not a classification for girls. It was a classification for FKKs. If some of the girls kiss and some of them don't, then you have to ask. So the FKK is a Class_B.

Yes, but which clubs are purely class a then? And does such clubs have a higher than low optics average?

[Pistons]

According to your list of club ratings, Wellcum has girls from all 3 categories. So far I have only talked to 2 girls at Wellcum who completely said no to kissing (class C). 7 or 8 girls in class be (if I add a few who I just talked to). One of whom fell down from class a to be between my 2 visits.

Something must have happened to my post. I think I added more. But: also 8 girls in class a.

[Dubner32]

Copied from Villach / Klagenfurt Thread to get some visibility.

What is a good BJ?

I asked myself whether I should share my recent experience with Andreea at Wellcum (ex Marina) with you. She has caused me to question my whole life BJ experience. I have decided to share; read on if you are willing to waste a few minutes on BJ technique and philosophy.

My background: BJs from about 100 different women over 30 years.

I went to this room with 'normal' expectations. Andreea's technique is full on kissing then down to BJ. She does tasty all around licking and then dives (no other word for it) down all the way applying sensuous lip / mouth pressure to every part. I am not so large but was firmly taken into her throat at the base of each stroke (effectively f**king her throat). Here she pauses and proceeds to slip her tongue out and flick it all around. She continues this at different pressures and speeds with a ready smile, eye contact and occasional pauses to clear her mouth. She put me in into some kind of joyful 'shock' I have never experienced before.

I call a pause and we chat about all this and I decide to experiment. I am particularly sensitive along the inner upper thigh and where the thighs join the crotch. I ask her to use her hands to finger this area while she's 'blowing'.

No problem! She gets a motion going that reminded me of the pistons of a steam railway engine. She's rocking her hands back and forwards into my creases in time with her head going all the way down and up like before. Superb!

But then I feel her natural breasts are softly teasing my inner thighs as she moves. We talk some more, she gets out some oil and oils her breasts. Off we go again. I am now close to stimulation overload. She is using lips / mouth on the shaft, tongue around the balls, throat on the head, hands around the scrotum / creases and tits on my thighs.

This is, without question, the best BJ of my life.

If you visit Andreea, please be gentle and repectful of her; she's precious to me. And, of course, sadly for you, YMMV.

I'm thinking that every previous BJ was a missed opportunity. But thank the fates she's educated me.

D.

Would welcome experienced mongers thoughts on what makes a top quality BJ. (BBBJ, goes without saying!) the.