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[Polyamorist]

In Germany, I often get fluent DFK on first room without extra asked. So, Austria seem more expensive and lower level for GF behavior.

I finally got to the bottom of this. For a while I was confused by girls in Austria that had really wild passionate sex with me but wouldn't kiss, which I would normally take as a sign they don't like me. In Germany that is really what it would mean.

After questioning some exceptionally friendly ladies, I discovered that the bosses in some Austrian FKKs have started telling the girls not to kiss, and even spreading the most fearful stories about the diseases they will get if they do this (normal French kissing) with guys. If any of this were true, the human race would have died out long ago. But a lot of these girls are young and uneducated and fresh from Romania, so they will just believe what they are told. Then they spread the scare stories to other girls and it becomes a standard, and the guys start to believe all this comes from the girls themselves. Meanwhile the pimps have their guys online talk about how kissing is an "extra" rather than the integral part of sex it has been in Western culture for the past few thousand years. The idea is to create an artificial shortage, and establish from that a new pricing tier.

Anyway, for the average monger in Austria, if you run into this, a girl suddenly turning down kissing, my advice would be: don't get offended, it does not necessarily mean that she doesn't like you. The thing to do is to be gentle and make her understand that you won't tell any manager: what happens in the room is strictly between you and her. A bit of kindness goes a long way to getting the girls in the right mood, and then the barriers imposed from without tend to come down.

[Massimo Potente]

Having said that, I would admit that this is really a Thing in Austria. I mean, asking about kissing. What I have been observing lately. It's like an erotic ritual, the girls expect it as part of the warm-up process. So if you don't ask, you don't get it and you have to deal with all the weirdness that implies. Still seems silly to me but when in Rome.

It has become a thing in the last decade, I would say. Kissing was something that you wouldn't get with or without asking. Either way in the old days you would have made a fool out of yourself if asking for it. Nowadays it often is part of the menu that girls have and kissing is a thing that girls do for extra money. Like in all Laufhauses you can buy this extra for 20€.

It is absolutely no ritual anymore unless it is at the girls discrestion and this is often the case in sex nightclubs and FKK clubs.

[Polyamorist]

I don't like to ask a girl if she kisses. If she has bad intentions she will just lie. If she has good intentions she will kiss anyway. So what's the point?

Having said that, I would admit that this is really a Thing in Austria. I mean, asking about kissing. What I have been observing lately. It's like an erotic ritual, the girls expect it as part of the warm-up process. So if you don't ask, you don't get it and you have to deal with all the weirdness that implies. Still seems silly to me but when in Rome.

[Macchia]

... By taxi it's 50 each way from Villach, or 35 if you make a deal..

You can spend less on taxis if you call the front desk Wellcum.

[Polyamorist]

30 mm. 70 euro, CIM 50, Back door 100.

And 85 entrance fee. Also most mongers will need to factor in the time and expense of getting there as it is more out-of-the-way than Andiamo and there's a weird detour from the highway. By taxi it's 50 each way from Villach, or 35 if you make a deal. (The usual clientele don't have to worry about that as they are Italian guys who can print their own money and are driving up north in Lamborghinis.).

The girls are friendlier than in Andiamo. Most are Romanians but I was lucky enough to meet an amateur-like beauty from Marrakesh / Stuttgart. She was a natural lover of sex. However, when she started at the club she was told, "No kissing here!" So that is one thing which would stop me from being a regular at this club, despite the fine facilities (great jacuzzi especially), food, and beautiful naked bodies on view.

[Macchia]

One-day visit to Wellcum the day after Halloween Part.

Hotel interior, single room + entrance: 140 euro (usually only from Sunday to Wednesday).

30 mm. 70 euro, CIM 50, Back door 100.

Good number of girls for every taste. I had confidential meetings with four ladies, as I describe below:

Angel: It is the prototype of the teen girl, skinny, pale skin, silver hair (I mean a particular blonde), very pretty and active. It offers much but it's better to take prior agreements. I think no DFK.

Nikita: tall, blonde, buxom. Woman, not girl. Very smart and helpful. Room is very active in all. Usually yes DFK.

Amelia: nice and friendly lean and curvy girl, blond and curly hair. Pretty face and nice body. Polite and quiet. Room is fine with her.

Ramona: mature woman with young body, a panther. Even in the room. Very attractive. After the meeting you must rest.

Great club, good food and great staff at the reception.

Hotel interior: Sleeping on the battlefield is a very good comfort.

[Polyamorist]

DFK don't seem natural at Wellcum and Andiamo, maybe Italian lovers don't kiss? Average level for me, except Natali and Virgina. Ro with good potential. I find better level with fluent DFK in Germany for 50/30 mn.

Are DFK fluent natural in Vienna? Not for most of girls at Italian border.

IME you will have to ask each girl for BBBJ and DFK in Vienna. Some will do it for free. Some will ask for a small extra. Some say they will DFK but only LFK. And some simply don't.

I don't like to ask a girl if she kisses. If she has bad intentions she will just lie. If she has good intentions she will kiss anyway. So what's the point?

About Andiamo, I would compare it to Artemis in Berlin. Advertised as the best, but gets flooded with tourists (Italians in Andiamo's case), and the girls develop a cynical attitude. Actually the comparison favors Andiamo, because it has nicer staff and the decor is more tasteful and luxurious. And the girls are not messed up by so much silicon and tattoos and smoking and gum. But the service is still stubbornly subpar.

I might give Wellcum a try for the sake of thoroughness. Seems a long way out. Is there any way to it except taxi? Is it worth the taxi fare?

[Delta Indigo]

Try Lady O -www.lady-o.at/ That the must- have- seen club in Innsbruck since many many years and a hot spot for all 1-2 mongers from northern Italy.

Could I ask anyone who knows if this is a brothel and if so does anyone have any idea of the prices and lineup quality.

[Sirioja]

Bad weather on this Saturday on French Alps, so at 1 pm, decided to drive across Italy, from San Sicario to Tarvisio, to repeat my friend Zoncolan, 1 week ago, if I climbed, I failed on the performance, arrived at falling night, so I will climb at night, without seeing the road in the forest, but less warm than at 1 pm, it was a big mistake, just killing body. This time, great 8 kms climbing, even dangerous. To recover, go fast again to Wellcum, entry 85 with credit card, to have good diner just before finished at 11.45 pm on Friday and Saturday. Unfortunately, casting was not so good than 1 week ago, no Natali, no Virginia, no Anna. It, about 30 girls. No room for me on that night, but around midnight, like for FerrAgosto, I saw about 5 Romanian girls dancing, singing, shouting, laughing, again a real pleasure to see them, I never saw this in any other club in Germany, or Switzerland.

I think better to wait on September for more girls attending. Be back on next summer.

[Sirioja]

For my 6 girls at Wellcum and Andiamo, all provided BBBJ for 70/30 mn, 3 provided DFK but not all along the room, I had to get kisses, so, not fluent enough for me, compare to Germany. But no extra asked. Only Italian Anna said: no kiss. In Germany, I often get fluent DFK on first room without extra asked. So, Austria seem more expensive and lower level for GF behavior.

[Shark16]

Are DFK fluent natural in Vienna? Not for most of girls at Italian border.

IME you will have to ask each girl for BBBJ and DFK in Vienna. Some will do it for free. Some will ask for a small extra. Some say they will DFK but only LFK. And some simply don't. It is not a standard, but easy to get for free even with the hottest girls when working the line-up. The girls claim it is a YMMV. If you do not ask prior to committing yourself, then chances are slim.

Yes, my Vienna experience is limited (one recent visit / three etablishments visited). I cannot say for sure if a majority of girls provide kissing. I am only assuming it is easy to get if you are clean and respectful, and that repeat business will increase your chances (as is my experience elsewhere).

[Sirioja]

So, after a 3 days tour in Italian, Austrian border, FKK Wellcum on Thursday and Saturday for FerrAgosto party, and Andiamo on Friday. Entry is 85 for both, same than Globe. Ch, but you can pay with credit card in Austria, without being charged. 10% charged at Globe. Ch for Visa card. Rate is 70/30 mn for both in Austria, about 130€/30 mn at Globe, but not same level for casting and services. DFK don't seem natural at Wellcum and Andiamo, maybe Italian lovers don't kiss? Average level for me, except Natali and Virgina. Ro with good potential. I find better level with fluent DFK in Germany for 50/30 mn.

Very bad organization on Saturday, climbing Zoncolan at 1 pm, under sun and 30 degrees, after driving in the night, to arrive as early as possible to party at Wellcum, wishing for new girls coming for party and to repeat with Natali, but it was not serious at all, painful climbing even good finish, and even arrived at 4. 30 pm at already crowded Wellcum, I already had my party for my broken body for the day. When Natali came to me smiling, asking me if I was OK, I couldn't answer her I wanted to go with her, because I was just not able. I did need until about 10 pm, to be able to forget pain, and Natali lost her beautiful smile since long time, even was quite busy. When I discovered pretty brunette, but not busy, Anna. It from Vicenza, I thought to try to find new energy, I wanted this Italian woman, not busy in an Italian club? When many Romanian girls were busy on this party. Unfortunately, Anna was not a sensual GF for an Italian woman, no kiss, only sporty sex. In doggy, she asked me: do you want my ass? I can't with Romanian girls who could not resist: You kill my ass, after 30 seconds, so, why not getting an Italian beautiful ass. Anna worked a lot, with her toy, my fingers, on me, for her 100 extra, but too small, couldn't enter, I would have need long time with fingers to open her enough, really frustrating, but she worked also hard in doggy to let me finish. 240 € for a very frustrating hour. On the night, fireworks, tombola where a guy won free entry for 1 month, and the best of the party for me was to see about 5 Romanian WGs dancing, singing, shouting, they were laughing, they looked so happy together, I would have not dare to ask one of them to go to room if I was attracted, maybe because they had good business on this crowded party, but they looked really happy, it was just a pleasure to watch them laughing and dancing together. After a short night, the night before, my broken body sport, I didn't wanted to leave frustrated, so when brunette Virginia. Ro asked me in Italian how I felt, I answered I was ready for her. We went to room at 2. 30 am, when party finished at 3 am, we stayed for nearly 1 hour, even she was busy on party, she asked me to make her cum when I did DATY her, and was very sensitive for fucking, saying: You finish? So even having finished, I kept on fucking her with all my last strength. We came downstairs in an empty club with lights on, not lights for working hours. Thanks to Virginia to relax me, so I could push in curves around Tarvisio in the night.

Fashion seems to be bra, but pussy and ass naked, at Wellcum and Andiamo. Girls are more natural look at Andiamo, even Natali, Anna. It and Virginia have natural look, but many tattooed, silicon at Well cum, same kind of casting than GT Bruggen, even not Germans.

Will be back next year, but with a more professional organization and behavior, to play with my new Austrian friend, climbing to the lake, and this year, we are 2-2 with Zoncolan, but next year, I will ask to leave Wellcum for it, to defeat it in better conditions, and then returning for my award, maybe with Natali and Virginia, my 2 best Austrian tour girls. The only 2 who were at German level I m used to.

Are DFK fluent natural in Vienna? Not for most of girls at Italian border.

[Sirioja]

Discovery of an Italian FKK on the other side of border, close to Tarvisio. Wellcum is a beautiful club in the middle of Carinthians mountains, not far from my beloved Dolomiti, but located in Austria because forbidden in Italy. Same for Andiamo in Villach, to visit soon. Wellcum have also hotel, rooms are for 90 € for single, small garden with outside swimming pool, wellness with only 1 jacuzzi. Good foods for diner, good drinks, 2 free beers or white sparkle wine in entry 85. Girls are for 70/30 mn, out of extra. On this Thursday night, about 40/50 girls, all speaking Italian, everything is written in Italian. I can t say casting is not good, but not my type for look, too much make up and silicon for me, not natural enough looks. Blond Ivana. Ro is pretty and friendly, but too big silicons, but I had enjoyable time with small, dark blond, Natali, claiming to be Hungarian, nice, smiling, pretty girl. Club closed at 1. 30 am on this Thursday night and was quite empty after 11 pm.

[Sirioja]

Yes to the rates. A lot of girls in both clubs as it is summer time and therefore high season and the climax of the year. I estimate between 70 and 90 girls in Wellcum, a bit less in Andiamo.

So I will visit when I will be in Frioul Venezia.

Thanks.

[Massimo Potente]

How many girls at Wellcum and Andiamo?

Entry 85 ? And 70 ? /30 mn.

Thanks.

Yes to the rates. A lot of girls in both clubs as it is summer time and therefore high season and the climax of the year. I estimate between 70 and 90 girls in Wellcum, a bit less in Andiamo.