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[Jim Quince]

After discussing this topic with the big Ceasar, he stopped answering me, because he had (as he pretended) to make a business trip abroad. Now 1.5 year later he is still abroad, I guess?

Gentlemen read the section "Modération ou censure" on that forum. At least some people are opening their eyes. Manipulation, abuse, deceive, censureship that is what that forum stands for. I see it happen everyday. When the moderators tell jump, you just have to ask how high. If not, you will fall in their disgrace, without giving you the opportunity to defend yourself.

It's a shame how those moderators there take advantage of working girls. Just a little gang of wanna be pimps.

[GandJim]

I'm more an Eastern Europe traveller, but I occasionally visited dialogueslib.be forum and have found very useful information there, especially those from Jose Beauvit for Poland (are we getting off topic ... ). It's a good forum.

I don't think leguiderose.net can claim to be a better guide, as it's limited mainly to escort. In fact, I didn't made any good from info on leguiderose.net forum, while those on dialogueslib.be helped me out more than a couple of times when I visited Belgium and Poland.

If Jim Quince is serious about his statement, he should PM the evidence to Ceasar (or to Jose Beauvit if Ceasar is the culpit, which I doubt very much), and tell them which moderator he's talking about, rather than making unsubstantiated accusation on a public forum. I'm not saying this has not happened, I have already seen people in German FKKs trying to get free entry claiming to be from ISG (which obviously they are not) and promissing good reports.

Jim

[Jim Quince]

I would be very surprised if anyone could show you such a mail from me since I never visit any girl, even if I have met some. But none of them know who I am.

Now, the rules for nominating the moderators are been set clearly from the start and they are not supposed to tell any person who they are. If you can show me that they took advantage of their position to obtain some favor, it will be promptly fixed.

Not you. Manuxw.

Greetings

[Routard]

Welcome Jose Beavit,

Sorry to read that your first report in ISG starts in the middle of some confusion. I admire your job and writings in the french and belgian forums, I know that sometimes you come to read also on our forum. It would be very nice too if you became a contributor on our forum.

But to all of you: Jackson doesn't want other competiting forums to be promoted on his forum. Check the general posting rules.

Routard

[Caesar]

Please don't deny it, I saw the emails some salons showed me. But FWIW the people here can ask the girls themselves what kind of practices some moderators of your forum seems to use when they have the intention to visit some girls,salons,etc.
JC

I would be very surprised if anyone could show you such a mail from me since I never visit any girl, even if I have met some. But none of them know who I am.

Now, the rules for nominating the moderators are been set clearly from the start and they are not supposed to tell any person who they are. If you can show me that they took advantage of their position to obtain some favor, it will be promptly fixed.

[Jim Quince]

Who are you to write such crap? Have you even read the forum or are you just the promoter of some other site? Who are you to insult honest moderators?

Yes, people tend to write more positive reports than negative. The same applies here and on every such forum I know, but if you take the time to read you'll find quite a lot of negative reports. Don't take the words of some nasty idiot to be the truth and make an opinion by yourself.

Well, well the main moderator himself. Did I hit a nerve? Does the truth hurts? I have one question for you. When one of you moderators visits a salon,prostitute etc. Why you feel the necessity to pound the drums and announce to the girls before the visit that you're a moderator? Please don't deny it, I saw the emails some salons showed me. But FWIW the people here can ask the girls themselves what kind of practices some moderators of your forum seems to use when they have the intention to visit some girls,salons,etc.

That's all I have to say about it. Next please.

At your service.

JC

[José Beauvit]

Forget about www.dialogueslib.be , moderators are not to be trusted, mainly insiders (if you know what I mean). Posts are mainly all positive, negative posts will be erased. If you want a better guide go www.leguiderose.net not only specified to Brussels but at least more honest.

Hi, I am one of the moderators of www.dialogueslib.be.

I just read Jim Quince's remark.

It does not make sense at all.

Mistakes can be made sometimes, like everywhere. But they are not related by any means, to links such as Jim Quince suggests, which would exist between the moderators and the prostitutes, houses or salons, the activities of which are topics set in the threads of www.dialogueslib.be.

Actually, there are no such links.

I insist we are carying on our activity benevolently.

The only messages to be censured are the ones which interfere with the people's dignity or private life, or set up useless controversies.

I would like also to stress on the fact that www.dialogueslib.be is no longer "specifically dedicated to Belgium", as Metekeo wrote earlier below. Of course, www.dialogueslib.be is very well known for its belgium database. But it includes a french section, too. Moreover, since about two years, international sections have be created. These international sections are especially full of material on some areas of Western Europe (mainly Netherlands and Germany) and Central Europe (mainly Poland, Czech Republic and Bulgary). All the threads are written in french, of course.

Best regards.

[Caesar]

Forget about www.dialogueslib.be , moderators are not to be trusted, mainly insiders (if you know what I mean). Posts are mainly all positive, negative posts will be erased.

Who are you to write such crap? Have you even read the forum or are you just the promoter of some other site? Who are you to insult honest moderators?

Yes, people tend to write more positive reports than negative. The same applies here and on every such forum I know, but if you take the time to read you'll find quite a lot of negative reports. Don't take the words of some nasty idiot to be the truth and make an opinion by yourself.

[Polar]

I can now answer my own question.

A full report will come shortly, but as far as language concerns, it was easier with english at Ritz than at the famous clubs in the Frankfurt area.

[Polar]

I plan to visit this place Monday next week. Could anyone give me a hint if english is a useful language at this place? My french does not exist at all, and I might just recall some German phrases from school.

[Wanking]

After the Netherlands, there is now also a FKK club in BELGIUM : the RITZ, about 60 km north of Brussels.

Website : www.ritzclubbing.be

I was there on thursday, and I must say it was a very good experience.
Of course there are for the moment not so many girls than in Oase or Palace.
But these 12 girls in RITZ are friendly and most of them are GFE type.

I had a very good session with LIA who probably gave me the best BBBJ of my whole life (and I am about 50) !

If you can read french, there are several posts about the Ritz on this forum : http://groups.msn.com/FKKGUIDE.

This club should be worth checking out.

[Jim Quince]

Just to remind you that there is an excellent site, just like this one, dedicated specifically to Belgium. It is, indeed and unfortunately, in French only. For those it's of any use:

www.dialogueslib.be

www.hookers.nl Might interest those who speak dutch, as it also has an extensive coverage of the Belgian scene.

Have fun,

M

Forget about www.dialogueslib.be , moderators are not to be trusted, mainly insiders (if you know what I mean). Posts are mainly all positive, negative posts will be erased. If you want a better guide go www.leguiderose.net not only specified to Brussels but at least more honest.

[Meteko]

Just to remind you that there is an excellent site, just like this one, dedicated specifically to Belgium. It is, indeed and unfortunately, in French only. For those it's of any use:

www.dialogueslib.be

www.hookers.nl Might interest those who speak dutch, as it also has an extensive coverage of the Belgian scene.

Have fun,

M

[XXL]

I think such scams are pretty widespread and they get a boost from laws governing prostitution. Those laws are always restrictive and wherever prostitution is illegal champagne scams are not. In other words a girl or a manager will never be prosecuted for scamming a client while they may get prosecuted for selling sex if they're not allowed to do so.

One thing to look out for is whether the district you are in is one that has the reputation of being a prostitution area. If not, beware. Scams may be the only thing that those place are allowed to deal in.

My tip: save your money and blow it a plane ticket and a sex-holiday somewhere.

[Jack195]

Jack,
I don't have personal experience of this, but I know alot of strip clubs in Brussels operate "champagne scams" etc. I believe a common scam there in some clubs is that a girl will join you for a drink, and then they bill you for her time, like 100 euro for 30 mins.

I think there is info on this kind of thing in the Brussels section.

Id say becarefull...

Thanks, that's the kind of thing I'd like to avoid. If I wanted to spend 100 Euro I'd head someplace where I can get more *bang* for my buck. No I was just wondering if there were any places that were catering to folks who weren't interested in anything more than looking at nekkid women.