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[Routard]

I was in Antwerp, and decided to have a look at Schippers Straat. I was not really horny, as I was two days ago in FKK World and had there 6 sessions. I was just curious on how the famous Antwerp RLD looks like.

The RLD Schippers kwartier are several pedestrian roads with all the long window girls. In fact, there are more windows than girls: may be 100-200 windows, but most are empty and only 20-30 girls. My firts impression however is that everything looks surprisingly clean and safe. There is even a nearby police station. Unfortunately, the crowd in that area are the usual drunk or drugged lousy guys. The girls are also the usual SW (age 30-50, rate 3-6 with a diversity in origin ), most are dogs and some are even agressive.

I walked around, and all this scene looked quite funny to me, compared to my previous FKK Tour. But I stopped laughing when I suddenly realized that there was an 9 rated girl between all these dogs. Couldn't believe it! Of course, couldn't stand to try it.

She opened the door, smiled and spoke gently English to me. She was indeed a 9 rated 24 years old Hungarian named Maria. She was brown haired, a very nice smiling face with incredible green eyes, a perfect petite firm body with C cupped breast. She quoted 50€ for the standard FS/BJ and I agreed.

We went upstairs, and again I was impressed by the facilities. It was bigger than I expected, very clean and cosy, includding TV/DVD, bathroom and of course a very large bed.

She undressed, and without bra, her C cupped breast was not as firm as the rest of her body. On the other hand, her skin was very soft and very nice smelling. She smilled all the time and seems to be a very kind person.

But as soom as she started action, it was not the same person anymore. No word, no smile, she didn't even look at me. She put a condom, made me a quick erection with a BJ that looked more to me to a HJ. She put a lot of lub on the condom and put it inside her. Inside there was even more lub. Could not feel anything. She started to give a very mechanical sex, and turned her face eyes closed so that I couldn't see her. Kissing was out of question. Only the view of her body gave me enough stimulation for erection, but it could last a long time, it was impossible for me to have enough stimulation to come.

After a while I just asked to stop. She was surprised. I explained that she certainly was very beautiful, but that I was used to much better service. She seems to have heard about FKK. I told her that she was beautifull enough to work there. But she replied that she prefered to work like that in RLD, without other contact with the customer than the sex. She was not ready to deal with the customers as if they are friends, like in FKK. Probably a way to protect herself about the psychological pressure generated by her job.

I dressed myself up, looking a last time at her body, wondering how I managed not to come with such a girl. Yes, I tried it once, but for sure, I will not come back anymore to street action. If you are used to FKK quality, it becomes very difficult to go anywhere else. For 50€, you can have much better in the close Dutch brothels or the somewhat further away German FKK.

[Hendrik]

Guillomme,

your posting below on the location with the young and willing African ladies in the Schipperskwartier in Antwerp is quite interesting. I assume that the location is the Café "Het Keteltje".

I have also visited it two times and was immediately grabbed by young girls that offered me company for some time. I have never accepted their offers, although the prices they asked for were on the lower side (around 50 EUR). I read in other European prostitution boards (e.g. www.hookers.nl) , that these prices will rise to incredible heights, as soon as you are in the room with the girl, and that they will ask for more money for every little extra service that you thought you already had negotiated for in the beginning. Most people consider this place as a complete rip-off and recommend staying away from these ladies. I consider a price of EUR 75-100 for a whole night as an illusion ... or a very lucky exception. If such prices were true, I would expect long queues of desperate men in front of this place. You would already be very lucky if you could get a decent service for 1 hours for this price.

I really hate to say it, since I find African women very attractive and would love to invest money in good sex with them, but most African girls that I had sex with in Belgium had a really bad service attitude and always asked for more money as soon as you were about to start the action.

I would be very interested to hear from you, how you succeed in picking the right girls and what your success rate is.

Hendrik

[Guillomme]

The Schipperskwartier in Anterwpen becomes a dead place after all the riads of the police.

On bar with a lot of black African ladies was one of the good places in the area. Not that all the girls are that pretty but there were so many of them. When you enter the bar you're big game. Walking from the door to the center many girls try to get yourr attention even by grabbing you into your private parts. You can have a chat with them and if you like one the are willing to go with you to your hotel for € 75 - 100 for the whole night.

Make good arrangements and agrre on paying after you completed your job and if you want het to leave. This give you the best quality. If she does not agrre kick her out and try your luck elsewhere.

Unfortiunaty this bar was where last weeks riad took place, I do not know what the status is now.

[Coupe66]

Bel Cruiser,

Although I appreciate you taking the time to write such a detailed report, I feel I must correct you on a couple of things otherwise unsuspecting tourists will end up be thoroughly dissapointed.

First of all, in contrast to what you said, the area of Van Straelenstraat, Goudbloemstraat, Osystraat, Pijlstraat, Van Stralenstraat is virtually totally inactive, and totally dead compared to what it used to be !!! So I would say, don't waste your time there! I often park in this area when visiting downtown Antwerp and there is virtually no street action, ie it has been seriously cleaned up by the law. Maybe one or two crackheads or some deperate skinny black chick in a bar, but otherwise it is useless there now.

Regarding the Schipperskwartier, yes there are still girls in the windows but, as previous contributors have said, the area is a shadow of its former self. There may be many windows, but many of them are empty these days. I was there yesterday and there were maybe a total of 25 girls. If you consider any of these girls either here or in the Van Straelenstraat etc. area are worth an 8-9, then I seriously think you need your head examined !!! Most of the, I hesitate to use the word, 'chicks' in the windows these days are dogs and old dogs, who are still around and getting business only because they have the correct paperwork, when the better loking illigals have been kicked out of the country. There is one half belgian, half morrocan chick who I would give a 7, maybe....

I think it is a crying shame that in one of Europe's richest cities, this is what the local horny male population have to put up with. Whereas for example in the Costa del Sol there are endless clubs ful of latin american beauty queens with a great attitude who you can fuck sensless for 60 Euro. I have just come back from there, and by comparison the choice in Antwerp is just pitiful, so if you consider any of these chicks an 8-9 I don't know who you are comparing them against? If you travel a little and see what else is on offer the average girl in the windows in Antwerp I saw last week would merit a 2-3 if you are lucky. So I am all for you being proud of your city but please don't talk up the place undeservedly. Antwerp used to deserve incredible praise, but that, as they say, is history.

I would also say you should not write off the Coninckxplein as you do. Probably because in the past it had a reputation as being so dangerous, now there are many local police around, and during the day there are often local music concerts, street fairs etc (I was there on Saturday), so now it is probably one of the least dangerous parts of Antwerp! So to say it is sooo incredibly dangerous is basically laughable, I have never had a problem there. Just dont walk around like an obvious tourist and pay attention at night, just like you would anywhere. So my advice would be, if you want to go there, do. We are talking about Belgium, not Sao Paulo. 'If you value your life and possessions', please Bel Cruiser!

[Bel Cruiser]

here is a local's perspective on the scene in antwerp as it stands today. i've lived here all my life and have been visiting the ladies since i turned 17. basically, antwerp has three distinct categories of places where you can find some action.

1. the street scene

there used to be a time when antwerp has two areas where the streets where paved with professional girls, and at any point in time you could stop your car to pick up a 8 or 9 star girl for just 25€ (euro). i was on a first name basis with most of them.

the police started cracking down on streetgirls around the year 2000. along with the girls came a slew of shady figures selling drugs, breaking into your car while you were humping a hot one, ... today, these areas are heavily patrolled by police and the girls are arrested and detained for 24 hours if spotted by them. in addition they will get a fine and a letter is sent to their spouse and parents, informing them of her activities.

in contrast to the us, their customers or potential customers cannot be arrested since only pimping is a crime, and going to a pro is not. if they see you curb crawling they will probably stop you to check your id and go through your car looking for drugs, but they have to let you go. if you have a decent appearance, chances are you will not be bothered at all.

today, one area has been fully cleaned up and the other is still active but not at the rate it once was. the following streets are somewhat active: van straelenstraat, goudbloemstraat, osystraat, pijlstraat, van stralenstraat. the type of girls you will find here today as mostly african or local junkies, with the occasional hottie. for the africans, never pay more than 15€ for fs, for junkies 25€ for fs and if you should run into sophie (28y, blonde, perfect figure, high quality encounter) you should go ahead and pay the 150€/hr for everything (really everything). sophie is the only hot thing left in the neighborhood and she works some afternoons.

to get a quote just drive up to the girl and she will most probably get in the car to talk (drive around with her, to make sure the police doesn't spot you). tell her exactly what you want (don't be shy, most will do stuff like anal, ...) and she'll tell you how much. everything you forget to mention will be an extra later on, so strike a good deal. you can bargain but don't exagerate, service will go down.

add another 25€ for the hotel or agree to do it in the car (they know the places, and i won't list them here in case the law is reading along). in general, the girls will provide good service because they want repeat customers (less time they have to spend on the street, less risk of being picked up). if you tell them you just moved here (instead of saying you're only here for a couple of days), service quality will go up dramatically and be sure to ask for her phone number before you reach the hotel.

most will not have a condom on them (this makes it tougher for the police to arrest them for prostitution), so if you decide to go for car action be sure to bring your own. you will get a condom in all of the short stay hotels. hotel nord is their first choice but not yours (they get a commission), instead go to the appelmanstraat (hotel appelmans, or the one right next to it). you'll get a nice room (with mirrors, blue and red light all over) and your car will be safer.

some fellow sw addicts i'm in contact with tell me they usually pick up the black girls in the bars on the coninckxplein, but this is without a doubt one of the most dangerous places in antwerp (scum, drugs, east european maffia, ...). if you value your life and possessions, don't go there. really.

if, like me, you're a streetgirl kind of guy, consider going to brussels (i'll post some info on brussels later) because antwerp lost it's glory in this respect.

2. schipperskwartier

this area is the most popular one, among tourists and sailers alike. it's the most lively area in town and i estimate there are over 100 different red-light houses in just a few blocks. there are a lot of white girls here (mostly from holland and the formar east european countries) and a handful of black girls (ghana, zaire, ...). you should make your choice between 9 pm and 3 am, because after that time, even more blackies take the place of the whities.

prices range from 10€ (black girl) up to 50€ (white girl - 10
minutes). one hour of pleasure will cost you 150€. but because
there are so many girls, you should really get several prices before going in. of course, younger girls cost more.

where is it ? well, you should start at the steen museum on the kaaien and make your way north. you should then turn right at the first traffic light. when you reach the first intersection, you will be right in the middle of the schipperskwartier. you've made it, sailer. just follow the others. this area is patrolled by police on foot, but they won't bother you (it's generally accepted that you are here for a reason). this is generally a safe area. there's also a disco (cafe d'anvers), in case you don't find your taste and want to go out for a dance.

3. bars

you will find most bars along the italiëlei and some rep001tered across the city (easily recognized by blue or red light in the windows, and scarcely dressed women behind the curtains). these places will insist you have a drink with the girls first (they always drink champagne) and you may not even make it upstairs. expect to pay 50-100€ for drinks, before you can go upstairs for at least 150-200€. the girls are beautiful, but going to the red light district will save you money on equal quality material.

4. internet

most girls now have websites, and you can swing by their appartment or club. prices range from 100-150€, see another post in this area for more details.

if you're in town and want to go to brussels or antwerp, i'd be happy to show you around.

[Kris Kras]

You paid the right price, Alphonso. 50 euro is the going rate for FS. If you are a regular, the girl will usually french kiss you for that price.

[Alfonso]

Masaje,

The uglies are sometimes give the best service.

I have often chosen a stunning lady, then after she gets my money the service is poor!

AP

[Masaje]

Had a chance to visit the red light district in Antwerpen today. Starts at Oude Mans Street and is only a few blocks long. Girls ranged from 2 to 8.5. Quoted price of 50E for fucky/sucky. Wasn't able to take her up on it so can't coment on quality. My understanding is that the price is same for any girl. Don't know how the uglies get any business.

[Alfonso]

I was in Schipperstraat last week. As you say, at least 30 ladies in the afternoon with some lookers.

I got good, no rip off, service. 50E a time. But I was obviously a tourist, locals may be able to negotiate lower prices.

AP

[manon]

Antwerp might be looking up. Passed through this afternoon at about 5, there were maybe 30 girls, with some real lookers amongst them. It's still 50 for 15-20 min so a bit more dough than Brussels.

It look like the place is being done up a bit - some of the windows are new looking, they've installed a new public toilet and so on. There are still a few empty windows (but it was early) but even so, would have had a choice of a few cuties even at that hour.

[Parcifal]

Last week I had a new 'meeting' with ex porn-star Sabrina. She is doing incalls and outcalls near Antwerp and she is really nice and has a gorgeous body.

When we met we first took a sauna and then she sucked me for about 15 minutes without plastic. I shot my load in her open mouth, which she really enjoys. Unfortunately she doesn't swallow.

After a short break we started again and first she went on top and we changed positions for about thirty minutes untill I came again.

A great experience.

Price for about 1.5 hours : 150 Euro's.

Website : http://www.escortsabrina.com

She only speaks english.

If you go, please give her the compliments of Peter from Ghent.

Enjoy

[Kris Kras]

Up to a few years ago, Antwerp was the hottest place in Belgium. Now the red light district was reduced from 15 streets to only three and the atheneum quarter near central station is constantantly harassed by police. Since about 6 months, the red light district (schipperskwartier) has happily revived. The Eastern European women, who had been chased, are comming back, and the quality of the girls is impressive, I must say. For 50 euro you get laid with F&S and some girls give GFE. For those of you who can understand a little Dutch, I suggest the site hookers.nl. As an example let me mention Helena in the Vingerlingstraat nr 12 in the left window. This Greek (!) hot chick has the softiests pear shaped D cup natural tits. She gives a GFE for 50 euro with FK, ball sucking, F&S (covered) and for 50 euro more you fuck here wild in the ass.

[AsianLover]

Are the police shutting down the red light district on Schipperstraat or just shutting down the SW near the station?

[Parcifal]

NY Jimmy,

To meet sabrina, you would need to call her a couple of days in advance cause she has usually a quite busy agenda. As far as I know, she only does incalls however if you would want to make a photoshoot or video with her, this would also be possible on some location. A bit pricey tough.

To meet her, you would need to call her or her husband Graham. If you pass 'the test' he makes an appointment with you in a pub somewhere in Antwerp. This is just to see wether you are reliable and not some kind of stalker. If all goes well, he'll take you to Sabrina.

For 150 Euro you get 1.5 hours of sex, all included. The only thing she doen't do is kissing. (mouth).

If you make it, it would be nice if you mentionned you got the info from 'peter'. This would buy me some bonus-points I reckon. :-)

[NY Jimmy]

Hey Parcifal,

How early do I have to make an appointment with Sabrina Johnson? Is it possible to get an appointment on the same day? Does she do only incalls? Is it better to contact her by phone? Also, is the 150 Euro inclusive (includes anal, etc.) or does that cost extra?